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1961  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are there real sports bet groups on: September 26, 2023, 02:15:45 PM
When we have Groups on Telegram , it's good that they give them a beta version of what the VIP group is like, how it can manifest itself, but as long as we blindly trust what they say in a group, I think that's not the point, this It is something that can happen for better or worse, but personally I always say something, sometimes you have to give the vote of confidence of a particular group to see what it is like ? It is not known, it may work, but when we have a mix of knowledge and apart from a good group where they help us clear up doubts about bets on bets that we are not very sure about, it is good that they clarify us here, another thing that What I don't like about sports Betting Groups is that they launch predictions like this, without giving or showing an analysis, without acting like that, or you Know if they gave those predictions by Giving them to Fulfill.


Although I would not encourage anyone to join the paid sports bet groups but there is no harm in joining the free betting groups and seeing their free predictions about the matches. This is usually helpful in deciding on which team you will want to bet on. However, this does not mean that we blindly follow the signals from those groups and do not use our own minds and analysis.

Basically, i would prefer to first make my prediction and then get the confluence from the prediction groups and then place the actual bet. I will use the free sports group only to get an idea of other people's predictions.
1962  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: September 26, 2023, 11:42:18 AM
BCB and New Zealand series
Bangladesh won the toss and decided to bat first. Bangladesh lose 3 wickets on 35 runs. Then Shato played well and made a half century for his country. Shanto is not out on 72 score. Adam Milne took 3 wickets by giving 34 runs in 6 overs. Trent boult took 2 wickets by giving 25 runs in 5 overs. New Zealand is favorite for this match. Bangladesh score is 158 with fall of 6 wickets. New Zealand is leading with 1-0 in 3 matches series. Finn Allen and Henry Nicholls are good batters. If they made a good score , New Zealand will win. Bangladesh bowling is not strong as such as bowling of New Zealand and New Zealand fielding is top class.

Bangladesh has collapsed once again and fail to play 50 over .They don’t have cricket sense ,I thik they should quit their game if the play like this .The selector of BCB also need to choose quality batsman from all around the country .New Zealand played a exceptinal way on bowling, fielding .They have team affort and Bangladesh were keep loosing every time of spare on their innings .Bangladesh should need to play better cricket if they play like this they can be next Kenya .I think they need to improve their mind as we know cricket is also a mind game where Bangladesh loosing continuously .They need to do hard work specially on batting unit .Hope we can see a better team and better play on world cup for Bangladesh .

Bangladesh played no different than they played at the 2nd ODI. In this match, they were all out at 171 and in the previous match, they only scored 168 runs.

As i mentioned in my last post, their captain Najmul Hossain Shanto played well but he did not get the much needed support from the other end. He alone made 76 runs but none of the other Bangladesh batsmen made any score. Adam Milne took 4 wickets and Trent Boult took 2 wickets. The Bangladesh bowlers looked helpless in the match.

Bangladesh bowlers do not have the strength to defend this score.
1963  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Hockey discussion thread on: September 26, 2023, 09:32:49 AM
My main purpose in starting this topic is I saw that people are talking about cricket, wrestling, football, and many more but no one is talking about hockey that's why I started this topic.

If that is Ice Hockey as a sport I don't think much interest is shown here for such sport.I personally prefer this kind of sport for betting as the over 4 to over 5.5 bets sound very logical for a certain majority of such leagues and the odds are at near 1.7 ranging from 1.47 to 1.67 for the lowest over bet for example over 3.5 or over 4 depending on the league.

Since there is no such thread you made a good decision to open one and let's see if other people have interest in such sports,I am not a fan of Ice Hockey only a fan of betting into such sport.

Hockey is not only about the Ice hockey. Hockey is also played on the grass (we call it turf in hockey language). These days the most popular form of hockey that is played on artificial turf. To know more about it and the tournament itself, you can study the Men's FIH Hockey World Cup.

Anyways i did not see anyone discussing hockey here on bitcointalk but let's see if there are hockey fans with us who get active on this thread  Smiley

Does anyone know which International hockey matches are currently in progress?
1964  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: September 26, 2023, 09:08:29 AM
NZ batting is strong, and few of their players are in good nick. It will be interesting to see how Kane will perform after a long absence. Apart from Trent Boult, I think NZ can count on Matt Henry as a wicket-taking option. Sodhi did perform in the last match against BAN, but I agree with your point of view that he is not a quality world-class bowler. Overall, I think NZ have a slim chance to win the title. But they can surprise anyone.

Do not compare their performance against Bangladesh as Bangladesh is a weak side and most of the nations will easily win against them.

In today's match, the 3rd ODI, between these two countries, Bangladesh are again struggling at 43 with 3 wickets down in the eighth over. They decided to bat first but they would not have expected this start where their both openers Tanzid Hasan and Zakir Hasan weren't able to score. Only their captain Najmul Hossain is looking to score runs at a good pace but he definitely needs support at the other end.

If NZ win today's match, they will win the series but if somehow Bangladesh win this (need a miracle), then the series will be a draw, as the first match was a draw due to no play (rain).

1965  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Australia will ban Gambling through credit cards on: September 26, 2023, 07:53:09 AM
The whole idea of bans and credit cards is stupid. Now they ban credit cards usage in gambling, because people spend funds they dont have. Later they gonna ban credit cards because people in general spend funds they dont have? That is some kind of primitive thinking.

There are two ways to look at it, first like you said their motive is to ban credit cards or discourage the use of credit cards and they start off by banning them on the gambling sites. Since the motive is not to discourage gambling, gambling sites may feel that they are at a disadvantage and that the banning of credit cards is only on the gambling sector and the rest of the marketplace has no effect on it.

The second point of view and a more relevant one, is that the government's motive here is to stop gambling and for this they start by banning the credit card in gambling, thereby putting one hurdle. They can ban the crypto, so their only option is to ban the usage of credit cards. Who knows, they will ban debit cards too later once they see some good progress.
1966  Economy / Gambling / Re: Casinos not asking for KYC to register and play, but do require it to withdraw on: September 26, 2023, 06:59:16 AM
I agree, I happened to stumble on a casino that has no KYC on their terms and conditions but on the separate document of terms of privacy, they had this clause of right to gather user information such as full name, address etc.. and the requirement of ID submission.  That is plainly deceiving the players by creating another form of agreement through privacy terms.  So I guess  casino players must not only browse the Terms and conditions but also other documents that has something to do with casino players ' terms of agreement.

Thanks for sharing this experience. I never thought this possibility since I only use find function on ToS to locate the KYC claus of the casino.

I think it will be helpful to remember golden rule with regards to KYC that every casino with license to operate are deemed to ask KYC since it's the law requirements while casino that doesn't have license that still ask for KYC is doing unregulated way on gathering user information since they are not allowed to that unless the law dictates it.

Yeah, if KYC is a big concern for you, then you must read all the terms of services, privacy and every other link which takes you to the documentation of the casino. Also, if possible better see the reviews of the people and confirm if they are being able to withdraw with KYC and they are not asked for the KYC later. You need to do this research before playing at the casino, else you may face an awkward situation where you would not be able to withdraw, unless you do your KYC.

On the other hand, if KYC is not a problem for you, then be ready with all the KYC documents, as the non-KYC casino can ask for KYC anytime especially when you try to withdraw any big amount from the casino.
1967  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: September 26, 2023, 06:00:22 AM
Once Australia team used to be strong, and any matches played against them used to be a winning match for Australia. Those are past days and slowly the power of Australia have got diminished and other teams started to progress. Team Australia didn't go completely down, but their dominance level have got dragged down. Once again they're trying to keep their level high. Today's match is going to be tough for Australia as they have the pressure to win atleast a match and avoid whitewash.

Well, the Australia team is still one of the strongest team and they will win most of the matches played against most of the teams. However recently India and England can give a tough time to them and especially in this World Cup India will be a threat to all the other teams as we all know that India is best at their home ground.

The last ODI match between these two teams will be played at Rajkot. This match could be tricky if you are looking to bet on it. While India has more chances of winning (as they already proved by winning two times), the last match could have a different result as Australia will never want to end a series in 3-0 loss.

Really difficult to decide on whom to bet on.

1968  Economy / Gambling / Re: Duelbits.com | Casino & Sportsbook | VIP | Instant withdrawals!|ARGENTINA & AVFC on: September 26, 2023, 05:17:41 AM
Let me be clear. I ordered a withdrawal of $740, before that I was withdrawn $50, and in total I made a deposit of $700. The total profit was $90. I still haven't received my money yet if anyone is interested.

Its actually a simple case, probably something flag their security system hence they asked for KYC

If you didnt do anything suspicious on their site then all you can do is wait until they cleared your  KYC. There has been many cases around with Duelbits but all of those cases that show no foul play on their site will be granted access to withdraw from their site so all you gotta do is wait. Complaining here wont help you a bit though
He needs to trust  the system for a while because there is nothing he can do for now .its just days old case and sometimes KYC verification and some related issues takes weeks or even months depend on the case,
better to just check the update from the support , and PM the OP here if you still have not  done .


He made a withdrawal of 740$ and out of this, only 90$ is his profit. If he was playing on any untrusted new gambling site, they could have scammed him but Duelbits will have no problem withdrawing this amount. However, if they have delayed or asked for additional KYC etc, then there may be some violation on the gambler's part but it is too early to say unless we have an official verdict on it.

Until then, he should wait and if he has done nothing wrong, he will definitely get his withdrawal processed.
1969  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [POLL] Using AI to predict outcomes on: September 26, 2023, 04:25:02 AM
Personally I don't use chatgpt for sports prediction because I think most of the predictions AI would give will be as a result of cumulative statistics it has gotten from the history of the sporting events, so more often than non AI predictions are usually statistics based as AI do not watch games but get information from statistics provided by sites and analyst on the media.

Depending upon Chat GPT for making the sports predictions is totally wrong. The ChatGPT cannot predict correctly based on the changes in the current ground realities like some key player may get injured or there is a change of weather that may have an impact on a particular sport like cricket.

However, while making a bet, you would like to have some history and stats about the previous matches and the players. Let's suppose you are betting on who will win the football world cup but before that you need to see some of the stats of the previous world cup. In that case, in instead of google, chatGPT may become a very handy tool that can give you information within minutes or seconds.

I would prefer combination of chatGPT plus my own analysis for placing the sports bets.
1970  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: September 25, 2023, 05:58:52 PM
yes.. indeed, addiction to gambling can be influenced by our own views on gambling, because when we talk about gambling as "fun" then we will be normal when gambling, but things are different when we think that when gambling is for a profit, where in the end we will lose control and continue to chase victory.

Most of the gamblers say that they are playing gambling for fun but in reality, their focus is to make money. When your aim is to get money from gambling, that's where the problem starts. You start to think differently. On every loss, we (the gambler who is addict) become more aggressive and put more money to recover the loses.



Always losing control is why they cannot prevent themselves from continuing to gamble and one of the consequences of this behavior is not only becoming addicted or losing money but also if the gambler is too crazy about gambling he will lose his family because a family does not want to have family members who has a very serious gambling addiction and I once found an addict like this in my city when he was gambling online I asked him where he came from and he answered which surprised me that he came from far from my city and he chose to leave because his family had kicked him out because he often stole money to gamble.
Maybe this is one of the craziness of gambling addicts and I think several people have also told stories like this.

The gambling is like the drug to the addict,they can live without their wife and family.But they never live the life without their gambling involvement,this way the gambler was became the gambling addict from the gambler position.The gambler may act like the animal in their family after losing some money in the gambling.If they person doesn’t have a capacity to balance the money loss,they can use the other game to entertain themself.Some gambler will loss their family after the rude action in the family by the gambling loss.

There are gamblers who gamble with common sense they are not addicted to the gambling and therefore they are not trouble some for the families and friends.

It is only those gamblers who are addicted , become annoying for their families, use excessive money and even their mood and their way of life becomes extremely disturbed cause of the gambling addiction.


1971  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: who Want To Bet On 2024 USA elections? on: September 25, 2023, 05:26:01 PM
I think it's a better way to do it, because being a citizen comes with responsibilities, like voting.

Yes, voting is the responsibility of the whole nation but here we are talking about the betting on the USA Elections. Voting is totally different from betting. Usually, only the citizens of that country are allowed to vote, where the elections are held but people all around the world can bet on the result of the elections on online betting sites (that offer these bets on votes).

Being not a citizen of USA, i would prefer the candidate for the USA presidency to be crypto friendly and I will bet on that party that I think will make policies for crypto adoption.
1972  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Mixin Safe: A Convenient and Decentralized Multisig + MPC + Timelock solution on: September 25, 2023, 04:52:26 PM
Is the 200 million customers’ money? Are people serious about saving all this service?

That surprises me that people are using this Mixin Safe to store their cryptocurrencies and 200 million is not a small amount.


How does "we're hacked, you can't withdraw" reduce worries?
It will not eliminate worry, but people can know what is happening instead of remaining in the dark.

It is a usual thing that if any exchange/wallet is hacked, they may immediately block the withdrawal services to prevent further loss or people trying to withdraw everything that is left.

However, this is not an exchange and i thought this is a decentralized wallet and hence there should be practically no chance of hacking the funds/wallets unless the private keys of the wallets are stored with them.
1973  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling game is not good and everyone should stay away from it on: September 25, 2023, 04:34:05 PM
Everyone stay away from gambling game then you all will be happy and happy Gambling game is very bad which will harm your family a lot and will also harm your life like my father gambling ruined my father's life and also my future is dark now I am now  I came back to this bitcoin to find light in my life in this darkness you all help me shine.

The gamblers should already know that gambling is a risky game and whoever is gambling, is doing it at its own risk. Those gamblers who play gambling only to make money and have no knowledge that they can lose big money in it too, should stop or at least learn the basis of gambling.

Experienced people know how to manage risk in gambling by not exposing too much of their capital in the games and also they have money management techniques so that the money lost through the games does not affect the total capital they have allocated for the gambling.

For most people, who want to earn big money from gambling, usually end up in losing money.
1974  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: September 25, 2023, 03:58:51 PM
Here are final standings of Asian Games Women's Cricket Competition:

India - Gold
Srilanka - Silver
Bangladesh - Bronze

After there men team winning Asia cup now its Indian women showing there dominance in Asia. Indian women gave a target of 116 runs batting first. In reply SL were only able to score 97 runs in there 20 overs quota. For 3rd position match, Bangladeshi women easily won there match against Pakistan.  

Indian women's team is far superior to all the women's Asian cricket team and it was obvious that they will win the final. Although I think that the Srilankan women's really bowled well to restrict India to only 116 runs, but they batted poorly. At 14 runs, the Srilanka team had lost three wickets and none of the batsmen showed to resist the Indian bowlers.

Titas Sadhu took three wickets and gave only 6 runs in her four overs, That was a game changing bowling by her. Rajeshwari Gayakwad also took two wickets and Indian bowlers managed to defend this small total.
The low scoring could've been a pressure for India Women team, but Titas Sadhu gave the relaxation taking three important wickets. The young girl Titas Sadhu had her debut against Bangladesh Women and it is her second match. Being the game changer in the very second match and being a reason to win gold medal is a big achievement. Sri Lanka Women team is short of 19 runs, maybe if the early partnership weren't broken match might've gone in favour of Sri Lanka Women.

Srilanka women's team should not lose hope from the result of this final. They played well and lost by fighting hard. This was not one of those one sided matches.

We had a one-sided 3rd place play off match, where the Pakistan team only managed to score 69 runs in 20 overs and the Bangladesh women's team chased it easily.

I must say that Asian women's cricket teams need a lot of maturity and practice in order to become better team and challenge the stronger teams of England and Australia Women's teams.
1975  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [WARNING] Crypto casino scam on teh move again. on: September 25, 2023, 03:46:05 PM
general rule: if it seems too good to be true, it probably isn't.

Unfortunately these scams continue to run because people believe that it is easy to get rich at the expense of others and they think that there are actually people on the internet who want to provide you with opportunities to get rich.

this discussion/warning, although it is connected to the gambling sector, I believe it should be included on scam accusations board.

If you get deals from an unknown person, then this is the first sign that you may get scammed. If the deal is so lucrative that you feel that it is easy money for you, then there are more chances that you will get scammed.

For sure, if anyone asks you to give us money so he can gamble and share profits, we will refuse instantly but gamblers always come up with new ways to scam us. This is a more advanced technique where the scammer has his own gambling site and whatever we deposit on that site actually becomes the property of the scammer.

Now the big question is how can we save ourselves from these scams.
The first is that we should not be greedy. This way, we can avoid many of such scammers attempt offering us easy money.
1976  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: September 25, 2023, 02:34:38 PM
Here are final standings of Asian Games Women's Cricket Competition:

India - Gold
Srilanka - Silver
Bangladesh - Bronze

After there men team winning Asia cup now its Indian women showing there dominance in Asia. Indian women gave a target of 116 runs batting first. In reply SL were only able to score 97 runs in there 20 overs quota. For 3rd position match, Bangladeshi women easily won there match against Pakistan.  

Indian women's team is far superior to all the women's Asian cricket team and it was obvious that they will win the final. Although I think that the Srilankan women's really bowled well to restrict India to only 116 runs, but they batted poorly. At 14 runs, the Srilanka team had lost three wickets and none of the batsmen showed to resist the Indian bowlers.

Titas Sadhu took three wickets and gave only 6 runs in her four overs, That was a game changing bowling by her. Rajeshwari Gayakwad also took two wickets and Indian bowlers managed to defend this small total.
1977  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are You Tax Efficient With Your Gambling Habbits? on: September 25, 2023, 02:04:13 PM
The loss was our loss, and we did not pay the taxes. And even if we win, we might just pay winnings tax to the casino. But using a credit card to gamble is not recommended because it is as if we are using borrowed money and have to pay it back on time. Otherwise, we will experience problems, and we may have to give something to the credit card company to pay off the money.

But to pay taxes on our gambling, it seems it depends on where we live because some countries will not ask for tax money on gambling, but countries will ask us to pay for other things. And it will depend on the policies of each country.
That sounds better than if we will pay some taxes in each bets that we placed no matter if they are a win or a loss. But if we win, we are going to pay a little bigger for the tax again. When it comes to payment methods to play gambling, indeed that using a credit card as a way to place bets are not good idea because apart from your stated reason, it can also tempt us to borrow more money and become move divested once we also lose them.

Maybe it's true that tax obligations in gambling can depend on the country that we are living because I'm not asked yet about it. But it can also depend on the game because lottery winners here are being charged by a tax and the amount is huge.

It's better if we do not have to pay taxes at all; it would be fair for gamblers that way since casinos are the ones making money. The government can seem too greedy when they tax everything. You see, if a casino wins, they will need to file income tax, and if we win, we are going to file income tax, so the government makes money both ways.

The government usually does not care, if you are making money or the casino is making money. They are only concerned with the taxes.
This means that if you are making a significant amount in gambling, you will have to pay the taxes. The casino is making money and they will separately pay the taxes.

However, the gamblers who are doing online gambling using crypto, sometimes do not declare anything to the government and the government also cannot figure out if they are making money through gambling, so they save their tax but still, it is risky as if they got caught could face legal consequences.
1978  Economy / Gambling / Re: Punt.com | Win $1,000,000! | Biggest Crypto Casino | Instant Withdrawals! ✅ on: September 25, 2023, 01:43:17 PM
Nobody has abandoned this thread.
But it really looks like you have abandoned this thread as the way you are bumping this now. Your posting quality and replies were better in the past. You are bumping this thread without any valuable content now. Post some big wins screenshot and make promotional announcements occasionally to make the thread alive. BTW, there is no promotion at Punt.com. When the 'challenges' will be available?

If gamblers do not ask anything here or they have nothing to discuss about this casino, then the OP have no option but to bump the thread. However, he should think about why other gambling ANN threads are always active and there is no activity on this thread.

One reason which comes to my mind is that fewer people are playing on this platform and hence they do not discuss anything here. Also, Punt needs to have some sort of marketing campaign / Signature campaign in order to attract the gamblers. The competition between the gambling sites is quite high and hence they need to have some budget for marketing purposes.
1979  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you manage your money on gambling sites. on: September 24, 2023, 01:46:10 PM
Most of the time it's laziness.  People do the same thing in keeping theor crypto on trading exchanges its the same thing
  The beauty of crypto is that you can send it to a wallet where only you control it with no one else with access (to include banks).  It's a shame people don't use crypto how it was intended to be used.

If managing money means where to keep our crypto, then for sure, gambling sites or trading sites are not the ones where we should store our crypto. We can move our crypto to these sites to gamble or trade but as soon as we get the profit, its time to move them back to our wallets.

I usually tell my friends that once you go to the shop and buy something, you bring that thing home. So when we get some profits/coins from gambling sites, why we are happy to keep them there?

In case of any mishap/hack/scam, all that money stored in the centralized exchanges is gone and they are not our money as long as they are on their platform.
1980  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: September 24, 2023, 10:21:18 AM
Another example of Batriarchy domination over Bowlsheviks.  Grin

The way Indians are going today, a mammoth total is definitely on the cards. Australia would be very lucky if they could restrict India under 350. If by any chance India gets out under 300 then shame on them as this pitch looks like a belter. Aussie batter will enjoy their batting as well.

After losing Ruturaj Gaikwad at 8 runs, there is no turn back by the Indians. They have scored 173 runs with only 1 wicket down and still counting.

Australia is considered as one of the best cricket teams and if they are being punished the way right now (looking helpless), What will be the fate of other teams playing in the World Cup against India?  Who can stop India from winning this World Cup ?
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