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1981  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Unlocking Cell Phones Becomes Illegal 1/26/2013 on: January 25, 2013, 11:23:29 PM
What a stupid law. People should have the right to do whatever the fuck they like with the phone that they paid for.

Every single phone I've ever bought I've unlocked myself, this sure as hell isn't going to stop me from doing it again, in fact I'm going to make sure the next phone I buy is locked just so I can unlock it, its my phone for christ sake. This is completely ridiculous.

This is the equivalent to selling paper and saying you can't draw a cat on it because the big man in the government said so.

What is the world coming to.
Isn't it because you sign a contract when you buy the phone at a steeply discounted price that says "Hey, I know you're giving me a fantastic deal on this phone, so for that reason, I'll keep it locked on your network"?

Simple solution is to not sign said contract and not buy a phone requiring one.

I agree that it is silly, but people should learn not to sign silly contracts if they don't want to be held to their silly terms.

It's typically a two year contract. If the contract says that you may not unlock the phone during this time, there is no need for a law.

I've not read the law, but if it goes above and beyond any contract, it's ridiculous.
Fair points.  I agree.

Isn't it because you sign a contract when you buy the phone at a steeply discounted price that says "Hey, I know you're giving me a fantastic deal on this phone, so for that reason, I'll keep it locked on your network"?

Simple solution is to not sign said contract and not buy a phone requiring one.

I agree that it is silly, but people should learn not to sign silly contracts if they don't want to be held to their silly terms.

I've never signed any paperwork at all when buying a phone (we all use pay-as-you-go phones where I'm from).

Anyways, I have the legal right to smash that phone up with a hammer, throw it in a fire or drop it down the toilet right after I buy it. Surely they should make this illegal as well, because that would prevent them from recouping the discounts they gave me on the phone.

Also, I've yet to actually see any locked phone be cheaper than a sim-free phone. They're roughly the same price, but the networks get them in months/years before they become available sim-free. Maybe thats just the case where I'm from.
Interesting.  It's vastly different in the US, where a locked iPhone (with contract) costs you $200, and an unlocked iPhone would cost $800.  I haven't delved into the pay-as-you-go market here though, which might align more closely with what you see.
1982  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Last time you bought Bitcoins... on: January 25, 2013, 11:20:28 PM
Last time you bought Bitcoins, how much did you buy (value in USD)?

Now, if you made a deposit at MtGox of $800, and slowly bought it over the next week, with your last purchase being $50 worth, then select $800 in the poll, not $50.  I am looking for how much people are depositing to an exchange (or paying to a person).
1983  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: There has to be a better way (getting USD to BTC) on: January 25, 2013, 11:15:32 PM
i still can't understand why ppl don't emphasize intl wiring more.  for me, its a flat fee of $40 and this is the only way i've ever done it.

if you wire $50K to gox, that's only a fee of 0.08%.
Probably because most people don't have $50k - they're talking about amounts more in the range of tens or hundreds of dollars.

Wires make a lot of sense if you're moving a large amount of money, but for most people, the fees would make a huge chunk of the money.

ok.  let's use your numbers.  a $2000 wire at $40 = 2%.  add in whatever gox charges to make a trade (0.63% last i looked) and that still only 2.63% which is less than Bitinstant.

what's the problem?
I said tens or hundreds of dollars, not thousands.

$100 at $40 fee = 40%.   + 0.63% for MtGox = 40.63%.

I don't personally know anyone who has enough money that they would be willing to invest more than a few hundred dollars into Bitcoins.  I do know several people who are interested, but wouldn't want to put more than $100 or so in.  $2,000 would be a very significant sum of money for just about everyone I know to invest in a volatile thing like Bitcoin.

I have a feeling MOST people buy Bitcoins in amounts of a few hundred or less.  This is why WT isn't touted as a viable method very often.  Yes, it is very viable for $2,000 or more.  Not as much for $1,000 or less.

A poll would be interesting in this regard.  I think I'll start one.
1984  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Military Company's Server Hacked: False Flag Attacks on Syria, Chemical Warfare on: January 25, 2013, 11:08:03 PM
Interesting.
1985  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Unlocking Cell Phones Becomes Illegal 1/26/2013 on: January 25, 2013, 11:05:29 PM
What a stupid law. People should have the right to do whatever the fuck they like with the phone that they paid for.

Every single phone I've ever bought I've unlocked myself, this sure as hell isn't going to stop me from doing it again, in fact I'm going to make sure the next phone I buy is locked just so I can unlock it, its my phone for christ sake. This is completely ridiculous.

This is the equivalent to selling paper and saying you can't draw a cat on it because the big man in the government said so.

What is the world coming to.
Isn't it because you sign a contract when you buy the phone at a steeply discounted price that says "Hey, I know you're giving me a fantastic deal on this phone, so for that reason, I'll keep it locked on your network"?

Simple solution is to not sign said contract and not buy a phone requiring one.

I agree that it is silly, but people should learn not to sign silly contracts if they don't want to be held to their silly terms.
1986  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Please Help! Blockchain.info says "Unconfirmed Transaction" !!?? on: January 25, 2013, 10:58:38 PM
Thank You sgtspike,

i was thinking thats what it ment. But now its been 2hrs and nothing has changed so, freaked me out some

How much are the payments? there only like 0.005 btc correct?

@kgo Thank you for the info, very informative
Sometimes payments never go through, but it is rare, and if you are using any sort of default client to send the money, you shouldn't run into that problem - it'll automatically add a fee if a transaction is so low of priority that it will take a long time to go through.

That said, it is extremely odd that $300 worth of BTC hasn't made it into the blockchain within a couple of hours.  Care to link to the address you are looking at?
1987  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Please Help! Blockchain.info says "Unconfirmed Transaction" !!?? on: January 25, 2013, 10:43:14 PM
Unconfirmed just means that it hasn't been written to stone in the blockchain yet.  It'll get there eventually.  You haven't lost anything if you see an unconfirmed transaction at blockchain.info - it just means that it hasn't been processed yet (effectively).
1988  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: There has to be a better way (getting USD to BTC) on: January 25, 2013, 10:41:38 PM
i still can't understand why ppl don't emphasize intl wiring more.  for me, its a flat fee of $40 and this is the only way i've ever done it.

if you wire $50K to gox, that's only a fee of 0.08%.
Probably because most people don't have $50k - they're talking about amounts more in the range of tens or hundreds of dollars.

Wires make a lot of sense if you're moving a large amount of money, but for most people, the fees would make a huge chunk of the money.
1989  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will never reach $20 again on: January 25, 2013, 09:31:51 PM
The title of this thread probably won't be proven wrong by the OPs 2 year birthday.  If that ends up being the case, that's a pretty big bummer that a full 2 years after the big crash this market will not have been able to recover to 2/3rds of its all-time price high.  The reality is, unfortunately, bearing out that the rest of the world doesn't exactly think this project is as cool as most people around here do and I think that says something unsettling about bitcoin's future.  Sure, it's something that the market cap has made it to those levels, but that's mostly because of inflation and people just holding their coins and not added economic activity or more investor money.

FWIW, I find myself using bitcoin more and more these days because I might as well use it and use the value I've managed to accumulate while I can.  So, I'm doing my part, but, as has been the case pretty much since the big crash and all the hacks, I'm still not feeling very confident about bitcoin's future.  Still fun though.
And... the bear is back!  Can't help but to see a dismal outlook despite the many indicators of strong growth.
1990  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: it mining worth it these days? on: January 25, 2013, 09:02:16 PM
Maybe it's just the newbie in me, but I'm suspicious of anyone selling mining rigs. If they are so good, why aren't you using them to mine for yourself? You can then cash in the coins and make your money that way?

OK, fine, you're not a mining company, you're a hardware company. Is it really that hard to form another company or partner?
This has been rehashed many times here already, but it always boils down to this:  It is more profitable to sell miners than to attempt to mine yourself without letting anyone catch on to the fact that you are mining yourself.  Because if they do, everyone would lose confidence in Bitcoin, the price would drop to the floor, and mining by yourself would be utterly useless.
1991  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The bASIC Refund Tracking Thread on: January 25, 2013, 08:54:05 PM
And this is when the purpose of the credit card becomes clear.
1992  Other / Off-topic / Re: Name - Address on: January 25, 2013, 08:44:09 PM
Mark all --> Copy --> Paste in Excel --> Save as CSV

and that's my non developer solution.

Edit: Ohh, what the... I mailed you the csv

If you are looking for something a bit less manual and want to keep it updated on a regular basis, the following should work on any system that has curl and sed:

Code:
curl "https://blockchain.info/tags?filter=2" 2>/dev/null |sed -n -e 's:[ ^I]*<td><[^>]*>\(.*\)<[^>]*></td>[ ^I]*:"\1",:p' -e 's:.*</tr>.*:#:p' |tr '\n' ' ' |tr '#' '\n' |sed -e 's:^ *::' -e 's:, *$::' >myfile.csv

Schedule it with a crontab and you should have a regularly updated csv with the information from blockchain.info
I'm going to contact you next time I want to web-crawl.  My last solution involved PHP and cURL, but the one before that involved Excel, VBA, and IE.  Neither were pretty.
1993  Other / Off-topic / Re: What we've learnt today. on: January 25, 2013, 08:41:33 PM
Today I learned that more than 1000 bitcointalk users want to look at someone elses' cock.
Or maybe there are just 100 users who want to look at someone elses' cock 10 times.
There's still more to learn about this, I see...

SOURCE: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=136167

I have a felling I don't want to click on that.

Also, if that is the thread you are skewing your data since people might click it without wanting to look at a cock.  This is a bad rickroll.
TIL notme has fellings.
1994  Economy / Speculation / Re: 17 is the new 12 on: January 25, 2013, 08:35:13 PM
I would follow deathandtaxes on twitter
+1. Consistently the most logical writer here.
1995  Other / Off-topic / Re: Fing Car wont start on: January 25, 2013, 06:11:47 PM
Yeah, used American-made cars can be had for dirt cheap.  Definitely an economical way to go - they aren't all that bad in reliability anymore either.
1996  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Just bought my ticket for Bitcoin 2013 in San Jose! on: January 25, 2013, 05:52:44 PM
You people who plan to go and are organizing this conference are better using that money to further bitcoin, not have fancy conferences where you basically tout your LEET skillz in making tonz of moneyz.

Having a conference in fact is using money to promote Bitcoin. 

But if people are paying for the foundation already shouldn't they be using that money to promote Bitcoin and put on a conference? Instead of them being greedy and looking for more money.

They say they're a nonprofit organization, so this money will eventually be put into making bitcoin better... Anyway, nobody is preventing anyone from hosting their own conference that would be less expensive, so go for it!

They already brainwashed you, and you completely glanced over it, so I will put to you again, you pay a fee to them already why do they need $300 more dollars when they have so much, and they don't even give a discount or anything. But yet Gavin gets his pay day!
Because they have expenses other than the conference to pay for, and events other than the conference to promote, and people other than those hosting the conference to pay.

And why does it matter that Gavin gets paid?  What does that have to do with this conference?

Well then they need a better PR because I have yet to see them do anything or promote anything. This is the there first event and it is $300 dollars, and they can't do a 20% or 50% for members, I think that is when they are horrible organization. Honestly I truly in my heart want to believe the foundation is good, but they make it so hard believe they really are, when multiple times they have yet to redeem themselves. I am just wanting to see the benefits which there are none obviously.
I agree it would be nice and foresightful (is that a word?) of them to have offered a discount to foundation members, but calling people brainwashed and saying that the foundation is being greedy is taking a few leaps and bounds of liberty in assumption.

I chalk it up to them being a new foundation.  As they mature, I expect members will see more benefits, such as discounts at conferences, etc.

FWIW, I am not a member and have no plans to become one at this point.  It's too rich for my poor blood.  Wink
1997  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: MoneyPak for your BTC (you pay only 90-95% from nominal) [BEST OFFER] on: January 25, 2013, 05:40:22 PM
it's cool that moneypack is only in America yet you can't speak english
He's latino... see his name?  I bet he can speak Spanish quite fluently.
1998  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Just bought my ticket for Bitcoin 2013 in San Jose! on: January 25, 2013, 05:30:49 PM
You people who plan to go and are organizing this conference are better using that money to further bitcoin, not have fancy conferences where you basically tout your LEET skillz in making tonz of moneyz.

Having a conference in fact is using money to promote Bitcoin. 

But if people are paying for the foundation already shouldn't they be using that money to promote Bitcoin and put on a conference? Instead of them being greedy and looking for more money.

They say they're a nonprofit organization, so this money will eventually be put into making bitcoin better... Anyway, nobody is preventing anyone from hosting their own conference that would be less expensive, so go for it!

They already brainwashed you, and you completely glanced over it, so I will put to you again, you pay a fee to them already why do they need $300 more dollars when they have so much, and they don't even give a discount or anything. But yet Gavin gets his pay day!
Because they have expenses other than the conference to pay for, and events other than the conference to promote, and people other than those hosting the conference to pay.

And why does it matter that Gavin gets paid?  What does that have to do with this conference?
1999  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Announcement] Avalon ASIC Ships on: January 25, 2013, 04:25:49 PM
So, uhm... I heard a nasty rumor that Avalon has only actually shipped two units thus far.  Is this true?
2000  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: it mining worth it these days? on: January 25, 2013, 08:19:59 AM
I know nothing about mining, but since the difficulty adjusts itself, the ROI on mining should be pretty stable throughout the course of time. Of course, naturally spikes in either direction are expected (as the time to find a block does the same), but the network kind of adjusts itself.

Your number one considerations should be competition with other miners. If you have ASIC and everyone has ASIC, you'll still have a block pumped out about once every 10 seconds and you get whatever portion of it. It's hardware power efficiency vs. price of power. Some miners have free power and you can't really compete with that. Some miners have access to high end hardware and you can't compete with that. Some have both. But in general, since the difficulty is adjusted to the hash rate, everything around will adjust itself so that ROI on mining is pretty constant, and probably as competitive as people can get (which in the case of free power/hardware is pretty tough).
No, you wouldn't have blocks pumped out about once every 10 seconds.  Every 10 minutes, yes.
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