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1981  Economy / Speculation / Re: Counter to "Why Bitcoin is dropping ...buying." AMA format / doomsday debunked on: January 07, 2015, 01:13:11 PM
...Idk if he's french, but maybe you are? If not, you should ask for a Visa.

He is.  I'm not.  Been there.
Do you have a point, or just venting?
1982  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 07, 2015, 12:32:04 PM
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He is highly unlikely to be able to cash out any fiat from any exchange he sends those coins too and they are being watched by hawks...

Someone told me them bit coins are whatchamacall fungible, but you say it ain't so? Sad
1983  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 07, 2015, 12:20:19 PM
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Yeah. And back in reality these coins are in the public eye with a probable criminal investigation ongoing.
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Thank goodness for nanny state we can run to When Things Go Wrong Smiley

Since when is maintaining the rule of law advocating a nanny state?

Wait, so were you just gonna downvote teh hax0rs on Reddit or something?   Or?
1984  Economy / Economics / Re: USA is now number 2 on: January 07, 2015, 12:18:41 PM
Lol, Chinese average household income is x10 smaller than that of US.  Ten times.  Excelsior!  Cheesy


"average"

there are lots of people who can BUY the town you live.
alot. the rich chinas are no joke. its not no new york rich

There are lots of people in the town I live (NYC) who can buy your rich friends & have them stuffed as a pair of Foo Dogs.
1985  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 07, 2015, 12:12:16 PM
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Yeah. And back in reality these coins are in the public eye with a probable criminal investigation ongoing.
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Thank goodness for nanny state we can run to When Things Go Wrong Smiley
1986  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 07, 2015, 12:08:45 PM
Good morning gentlemen.  Another day of this?



(sorry for recycled gifs, promise to make a new one for $180)
1987  Economy / Speculation / Re: Counter to "Why Bitcoin is dropping ...buying." AMA format / doomsday debunked on: January 07, 2015, 12:02:45 PM
Taxation is no more theft than Bitcoin is child pornography Smiley


Consider this:

1) someone with a gun puts that gun against your head and tells you to pay them half of your income.
2) ten strong guys put you in a cage and tell you they will let you out if you give them half of your income.
3) ten strong guys put you in a cage, and tell you they will let you out if you buy for half of your income, beany babies.
4) ten strong guys put you in a cage, and tell you they will let you out if you pay them half of your income, and then they will make sure that no other guys will put you in a cage again.
5) the gouvernment will put you in a cage unless you pay them half of your income, and in return they will make sure that nobody else will put you in a cage.  On top of that, you get a museum of modern art for it which you can then visit by paying an entrance ticket.

Where's the difference ?


Hello my born-again libertarian friend!  And what a purty hobby horse it is you're riding today, never seen one quite like it before, such original, very wow!

1-4:  The reason it doesn't happen is I live in a country where there are laws, and enough muscle to enforce those laws in a meaningful way.  Those musclebound jackbooted thugs work up a big appetite, so some of my taxes go towards buying them fresh children to eat.
Good things cost money.

5.  Yes, as far as making sure that no one else does, WWII certainly comes to mind.  Of course, a privately funded militia of sulky middle-aged libers would have done the job far better, cheaper, and in half the time  ...wait, aren't you French?  Nevermind then, disregard.  

1988  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 06, 2015, 10:27:30 PM
Come on bulls, keep it going.  Remember WHY WE FIGHT!

1989  Economy / Speculation / Re: Counter to "Why Bitcoin is dropping ...buying." AMA format / doomsday debunked on: January 06, 2015, 10:18:18 PM
The country where you live--it does not belong to you any more than your landlord's house does.  To live there, you play by the rules & pay taxes, or GTFO.
Calling taxes theft simply labels you as yet another batshit crazy--don't do it if you expect to be taken seriously.

A government does not create land any more than you get your rights from a government. The government controls that land solely because they have the power to do so, and they get that power by stealing it from anyone they can take from and get away with it.

I do not live in the US or use government services but I am still required to pay medicare, social security and all income over $100k. There are several countries that run just fine without taxes but most people have been brainwashed to believe that is the only way a government can get its revenue. Just like many people likely believed that the only way cotton fields could be picked was through slavery. I am sure the slave masters made similar excuses about the land the slave lived on and the food they ate.

If you give up US citizenship, you do not need to pay medicare or pay taxes.
You should feel free to move to one of the countries that "run just fine without taxes," no one's holding you back Smiley

Yes, my plans are my plans. The slave was free to run to the north if they could as well. Doesn't make theft any less theft and slavery any less slavery.

You don't need to run, no one is holding you back.  You don't even need an exit visa.  I come from a place where one did.  My father was jailed for trying to leave.

@Wekkel:  Nothing would be easier for me than joining the chorus of entitled whiners on this forum.  Other than common sense, sanity, and self-respect.
1990  Economy / Speculation / Re: Counter to "Why Bitcoin is dropping ...buying." AMA format / doomsday debunked on: January 06, 2015, 10:01:32 PM
@Wekkel:  You bet.  Tired of listening to grown adults acting like sullen, entitled teenage girls.  Man up and stop whining FFS.

One could also think further outside the box. A lot of people here try to do just that.

One can do many things, but people here aren't thinking outside the box, just in a different box.
The box you do your thinking in loves slinging cliche shit like "think outside the box."
1991  Economy / Speculation / Re: Counter to "Why Bitcoin is dropping ...buying." AMA format / doomsday debunked on: January 06, 2015, 09:50:51 PM
The country where you live--it does not belong to you any more than your landlord's house does.  To live there, you play by the rules & pay taxes, or GTFO.
Calling taxes theft simply labels you as yet another batshit crazy--don't do it if you expect to be taken seriously.

A government does not create land any more than you get your rights from a government. The government controls that land solely because they have the power to do so, and they get that power by stealing it from anyone they can take from and get away with it.

I do not live in the US or use government services but I am still required to pay medicare, social security and all income over $100k. There are several countries that run just fine without taxes but most people have been brainwashed to believe that is the only way a government can get its revenue. Just like many people likely believed that the only way cotton fields could be picked was through slavery. I am sure the slave masters made similar excuses about the land the slave lived on and the food they ate.

If you give up US citizenship, you do not need to pay medicare or pay taxes.
You should feel free to move to one of the countries that "run just fine without taxes," no one's holding you back Smiley

@Wekkel:  You bet.  Tired of listening to grown adults acting like sullen, entitled teenage girls.  Man up and stop whining FFS.
1992  Economy / Speculation / Re: More Bitcoin adoption = lower Bitcoin/Usd rate! on: January 06, 2015, 09:29:15 PM
I think if Bitcoin can be valued against something other than fiat we can start making progress. Anyone got any ideas?

Fiat is just a handy yardstick.
If we assume that USD buys 1.3% more now than it will a year from now, and BTC/USD price stays the same, it means that BTC will also buy 1.3% less a year from now.
1993  Economy / Speculation / Re: Counter to "Why Bitcoin is dropping ...buying." AMA format / doomsday debunked on: January 06, 2015, 09:20:16 PM
When your landlord expects you to pay rent, do you call that theft?  If you don't want to pay taxes, GTFO & go and live under the sea or on the Moon.  Stop trying to freeload.

My landlord does not rob me and then grant me the privilege of living in my apartment.

As for me, I did GTFO.

No matter how you cut it, whatever goodies the government gives away, how much they spend on protection, free TVs, free health care...whatever, they take my money without my permission.

You can't talk about what the government provides until you address the part where they steal from people.

Theft is theft is theft, it doesn't change because of what happens afterwards.

The country where you live--it does not belong to you any more than your landlord's house does.  To live there, you play by the rules & pay taxes, or GTFO.
Calling taxes theft simply labels you as yet another batshit crazy--don't do it if you expect to be taken seriously.
1994  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 06, 2015, 09:00:03 PM
People are searching for Bitcoin because of all the great press Bitcoin's been having.  They want to find out what it is that's always tanking & getting hax0rd.
1995  Economy / Speculation / Re: Counter to "Why Bitcoin is dropping ...buying." AMA format / doomsday debunked on: January 06, 2015, 08:56:46 PM
...US to tax steal, ...

Taxation is no more theft than Bitcoin is child pornography Smiley

Closing your eyes and covering your ears saying that the forced taking of money is not theft all you want. Because it is an ancient tradition, society allows it without thought. Like they did with slavery and war.

When your landlord expects you to pay rent, do you call that theft?  If you don't want to pay taxes, GTFO & go and live under the sea or on the Moon.  Stop trying to freeload.
1996  Economy / Speculation / Re: More Bitcoin adoption = lower Bitcoin/Usd rate! on: January 06, 2015, 08:41:22 PM
I suppose "doing so well" can be interpreted "I've spent shitloads of time and money on Bitcoin & got to pay huge electricity bills (which I'm not even bothering to include in my backstory) in return.  My apologies Smiley

...how do you explain the first few years? It was worth only a fraction of a cent and now it's over $260.
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...  I've invested in Bitcoin because I was betting that someone (such as yourself) will buy my coin from me @ a higher price.  So did everyone else who has made money on Bitcoin.
There you go with your assumptions again... I can't help that you got into bitcoin for the wrong reasons, that is not the reason I got into bitcoin and that's probably why I'm doing so well  Wink
1997  Economy / Speculation / Re: Counter to "Why Bitcoin is dropping ...buying." AMA format / doomsday debunked on: January 06, 2015, 08:26:47 PM
...US to tax steal, ...

Taxation is no more theft than Bitcoin is child pornography Smiley
Your friends, the other paranoid lunatics libers claiming that it is doesn't make it so.
1998  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin's biggest problem on: January 06, 2015, 08:15:23 PM
^So we agree that BTC isn't money?  We're making progress Smiley
1999  Economy / Speculation / Re: More Bitcoin adoption = lower Bitcoin/Usd rate! on: January 06, 2015, 08:10:23 PM
If you read #2 in my post above, you'll see that I have already taken my original fiat investment out, so I am currently even, with a few digital tokens to boot!

Only Bitcoiners think that breaking even = making money.  Breaking even is not making money.  So now you know.
2000  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 06, 2015, 08:05:29 PM
Another rocket run.



*I always root for Wile E. myself.
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