I read about a quarter of peonminers thread painful to follow. Sorry Peon lots of inaccuracies and leaps. I mean sure you can build the basis of fact on fiction but in the end you end up with bad poo. Too many hands watching things in Cryptsy for it to be theft, laundering etc. Someone would have caught on and reported something. Not to mention Paul probably wouldn't ever come back to the US since he could comfortably stay overseas.
Edit 1: I did see the compliance thing, and there were already companies verified at tier 4 and tier 3 when I left.
In clickable links and given screenshots it is seen that the wallets detailed as Cryptsy.com's new and old wallets are emptying into an unmarked wallet, then sending the coins to this address: 3HNSiAq7wFDaPsYDcUxNSRMD78qVcYKicw which is spitting and mixing coins daily. What gives? Care to comment on those points that can be seen in the blockchain? Who verified they are actual Cryptsy accounts for one. Not to mention Cryptsy has more than two BTC wallets. Coins move in and out and round and round a million reasons. I don't think those are Cryptsy if they are then I am wrong but it doesn't add up. Some of the associations you made with like Scriptsy I know are false or they were a customer account at one point. Hey maybe your right but I am just saying I don't think that everything you posted is accurate is all. |
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Virginia "Ginny" Bryant-Shockney and Jim Shockney have been working with or for Paul Vernon since the late 1990s. ✓
Agreed
Both have done so from their home office(s) at 5040 Plainview Rd, Pineland, TX. ✓
Cant verify the address but sure Ill agree on the working from house.
"Ginny" Shockney has been with Cryptsy from day one as its accountant. ✓
No she was not the accountant she worked for Jim in support.
Ginny and Jim both administered Paul Vernon's SupportShift company. ✓
Agreed
Jim Shockney was brought up to speed during the nascent stages of ALL of Paul's companies. ✓
Not Cryptsy but I agree on the others. Jim didn't know Crypto.
Husbands and wives talk about their at-work experiences, especially when sitting across from one another in their home-cum-office. ✓
Probably
Now, you're telling us that you, as an unpaid volunteer, trained Jim Shockney to handle support for a cryptocurrency entity when he and his wife were leading support teams to handle various types of entities that neither they nor their support crew are versed in via Paul Vernon's Support Shift company.
Cryptsy has an admin interface and deals in this thing called crypto currency..... It's not costumes. So yeah I had to train them brining support folks off the street and teaching them crypto isn't a day long process. Yes I was a volunteer until this point where I started getting a paycheck.
That doesn't make a lick of sense. Then, you go on, on how once you trained him, he HIRED you. You can take it to the bank - any fuckin' bank - that Jim Shockney was well-versed in cryptocurrency and knew damn well how to handle Cryptsy's support on the very first day it opened its doors for altcoin traders to deposit their precious.
Definitely not true but your writing your own story so you go Gleb. I am just helping you get the story straight you do with it what you want. Yes I trained him technically Paul hired me but I worked for him back then. I can for certain say Jim knew not a lick about crypto when he came in.
BitJohn, pretend for a second that you are us and we are you. Would you believe our crazy-ass story? If you do, then by all means become an Investard at Leroy Fodor's StakeMiners Ponzi. Rumor has it that he's seeking a few savvy-impaired folks to bring his Investard count back up to 180 after several have withdrawn their initial investments during the past couple weeks.
I think if you scour the forums what I say adds up truth usually does. On that note who the hell is Leroy Fodor lol I just imagine the Game of thrones guy....
EDIT: Just realized that I commented as if BJ's EDIT#3 didn't exist, which wasn't my intent. Upon reading or rereading it now, I don't buy it.
You dont have to but it will help you with your narrative. Your right on a lot of details you just go down rabbit holes
"Jim Shockney was brought up to speed during the nascent stages of ALL of Paul's companies. ✓Not Cryptsy but I agree on the others. Jim didn't know Crypto." http://web.archive.org/web/20120501140620/http://www.supportshift.com/about.php Jim and his crew didn't need to know a damn thing about crypto, wine or nuclear power to have him and and his team of Support Shift to administer SUPPORT if such outfits sought Paul Vernon's services, especially if the underlings were from abroad earning subpar wages. Again, we're only talkin' support. Jim has demonstrated that his role with Cryptsy goes way beyond support today and back in the day. Ok agreed but I still trained him how to use the site and explained crypto only point I was making. I read about a quarter of peonminers thread painful to follow. Sorry Peon lots of inaccuracies and leaps. I mean sure you can build the basis of fact on fiction but in the end you end up with bad poo. Too many hands watching things in Cryptsy for it to be theft, laundering etc. Someone would have caught on and reported something. Not to mention Paul probably wouldn't ever come back to the US since he could comfortably stay overseas. Edit 1: I did see the compliance thing, and there were already companies verified at tier 4 and tier 3 when I left. |
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Other guys are talking but i wanted to add quickly..
I wanted to see Cryptsy succeed which is why i kept using them so long.
Hey me too!
I wanted to see thing improve but this has not been what happened.
Oh the stories not nefarious just drama! It should have but there were a lot of personalities lets put it that way.
I complained way back on various occasions as a warning.
You sure did and usually for good reason.
As in things can't get worse or Cryptsy is in trouble.. but they did keep getting worse.
Id agree with that.
It was usually the PR guy that took my rants such as BJ and i know he did not code the site.
It was my job now I would just tell you to bite me haha. Seriously though never had an issue with you honestly.
I am well aware of the context of things.
I also know working for an employer that is not on the up & up is not right.
Correct though I'm still sticking with vern isn't running off with the coin. I guess we shall see.
SO at least BitJohn go the hell out of there.. i would like to see Horus leave too.
Its hard to quite your paycheck especially for folks with kids etc.
I said way back i don't know to what extent things are because of BigVern or what his staff knows.
If JShock really doesn't know what is going on he should tear a strip off of BigVern and put it on him
(to make an announcement)
Just because you are old business partners and your job is PR doesn't mean you have to take this level of complaints.
We are all waiting wondering if some News from BigVern will come out and its been a long time now.
Yes Vern should say something publicly.
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Edit 3: Was going to quote gleb but its too long Ill just comment. Yes your timeline is pretty accurate 6-12 months not Leroy time. Ginny was not the first accountant. The first accountant left the company about 4-5 months ago. Bryant was the first CTO replaced by Marshall Long who also left a month or two ago. Supportshift was the company that came in and took over support and later just merged in. Yes myself Mullick, Horus and Pr9me were paid all at the same time when Jim was brought in though it was as contractors for the first check or two don't remember exactly. Jim did the hiring though a few folks were already doing most of the support so no he didn't hire them. They did all work for him. WAIT ANOTHER GODDAMN SECOND! You're on record in stating that YOU, BitJohn, picked up Bryant's duties upon his leaving, thus increasing your workload, thus contributing to you leaving Cryptsy. This is the first time Marshall Long's name has been evoked pertaining to Cryptsy on this forum, first by me, confirmed by you, BitJohn.  Source: Follow The Coin Interview of Marshall Long, CTO of Final Hash at Money2020Apologies to those not versed to a lyric of Creeque Alley, hence me laughin' my ass off. HAHAHA I was a gap filler before I left not the CTO, but I did help organize the devs in the new UI prior to resigning. EDIT: Gap filler when Marshall left. |
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Virginia "Ginny" Bryant-Shockney and Jim Shockney have been working with or for Paul Vernon since the late 1990s. ✓
Agreed
Both have done so from their home office(s) at 5040 Plainview Rd, Pineland, TX. ✓
Cant verify the address but sure Ill agree on the working from house.
"Ginny" Shockney has been with Cryptsy from day one as its accountant. ✓
No she was not the accountant she worked for Jim in support.
Ginny and Jim both administered Paul Vernon's SupportShift company. ✓
Agreed
Jim Shockney was brought up to speed during the nascent stages of ALL of Paul's companies. ✓
Not Cryptsy but I agree on the others. Jim didn't know Crypto.
Husbands and wives talk about their at-work experiences, especially when sitting across from one another in their home-cum-office. ✓
Probably
Now, you're telling us that you, as an unpaid volunteer, trained Jim Shockney to handle support for a cryptocurrency entity when he and his wife were leading support teams to handle various types of entities that neither they nor their support crew are versed in via Paul Vernon's Support Shift company.
Cryptsy has an admin interface and deals in this thing called crypto currency..... It's not costumes. So yeah I had to train them brining support folks off the street and teaching them crypto isn't a day long process. Yes I was a volunteer until this point where I started getting a paycheck.
That doesn't make a lick of sense. Then, you go on, on how once you trained him, he HIRED you. You can take it to the bank - any fuckin' bank - that Jim Shockney was well-versed in cryptocurrency and knew damn well how to handle Cryptsy's support on the very first day it opened its doors for altcoin traders to deposit their precious.
Definitely not true but your writing your own story so you go Gleb. I am just helping you get the story straight you do with it what you want. Yes I trained him technically Paul hired me but I worked for him back then. I can for certain say Jim knew not a lick about crypto when he came in.
BitJohn, pretend for a second that you are us and we are you. Would you believe our crazy-ass story? If you do, then by all means become an Investard at Leroy Fodor's StakeMiners Ponzi. Rumor has it that he's seeking a few savvy-impaired folks to bring his Investard count back up to 180 after several have withdrawn their initial investments during the past couple weeks.
I think if you scour the forums what I say adds up truth usually does. On that note who the hell is Leroy Fodor lol I just imagine the Game of thrones guy....
EDIT: Just realized that I commented as if BJ's EDIT#3 didn't exist, which wasn't my intent. Upon reading or rereading it now, I don't buy it.
You dont have to but it will help you with your narrative. Your right on a lot of details you just go down rabbit holes
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@BJ you Cryptsy guys have said lots BigVern is the coder (with some help before)
Did you see what i posted to Jim ?
No I guess I didn't read back far enough.
Where is BigVern ?
Well at one point in time I could have answered that I do not know now. Florida probably.
Like we all have to admit it sure seems like who ever is in charge of coding the exchange is not keeping up.
Problems have mounted !
Yep when I left it was Paul and three devs.
BigVern needs to lay out a technical response.
Yes couldn't agree more!
Users out there are not satisfied the replies from JShock on chat or Horus etc.
and that is next to nothing.
Understandable
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Greenlion was a volunteer mod he doesn't count probably. The layoffs were devs, netadmins and compliance there was a Tier II support employee in there in CS as well. So hes most likely referring to the Tier I CS agents.
Edit: Yes Jim did all the hiring. I was asked to bring him up to speed since the interface, and company was new to him and his team.
Edit 2: I was put on payroll when Jim came to the company for that reason. Yes I worked for Jim for some time.
Edit 3: Was going to quote gleb but its too long Ill just comment. Yes your timeline is pretty accurate 6-12 months not Leroy time. Ginny was not the first accountant. The first accountant left the company about 4-5 months ago. Bryant was the first CTO replaced by Marshall Long who also left a month or two ago. Supportshift was the company that came in and took over support and later just merged in. Yes myself Mullick, Horus and Pr9me were paid all at the same time when Jim was brought in though it was as contractors for the first check or two don't remember exactly. Jim did the hiring though a few folks were already doing most of the support so no he didn't hire them. They did all work for him.
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Bitjohn i am happy you came by to talk to us but i was hoping for a far less evasive answer  I am a man of context though so i can't envision you coming here to bad mouth Cryptsy all things considered. But one could take what you said with a hint of sorts almost. BitJohn YOU speak in riddles aahhaha I wouldn't tell my friends / family to get into Altcoin stuff either. I had them ask looong ago and i basically said just "Google it" LOL Well the topic ? I don't see much point in prying for an answer i know i will not get.. BUT ! I had an interesting thought just now (for you BitJohn) BitJohn have you entertained the possibility your former employer *may" go full Gox on us ?Because i think the other guys (staff) seem to think that is outside the realm of possibility. Like have you thought it *could happen and how you would handle it ? If he (BigVern) did i bet it would ramp up heat on you as being a long time Cryptsy employee. So have you considered how you would react if that occurred ? Maybe you already have and already know and already thought of that and we're seeing it now ? I have said i never thought Mark from MTgox planned on screwing anyone around. I firmly believe he painted himself into a corner and was eventually partially insolvent and had to make a move. What he *chose* to do is close the site and run off with the Bitcoin.. Then later get his lawyer to say he found 150k in his couch. (he really did say that and it was on a USB drive) And to be honest i might do the same in Mark's shoes.. It's tough to sit on such huge amounts of money and say you would not want to keep it LOL Actually i am pretty sure i would do what Mark did.. i think i WOULD take the coins to be totally honest guys.I probably would justify it in my head with a sense of self entitlement for all my years of hard work.. I would consider it my Crypto-Gold Watch and retirement bonus ROFL How many guys would walk away with millions in Bitcoin if you knew you could get way with it ?And Mark did.. last i seen of him was on a Coindesk News story.. That was about Mark Tweeting on the beach with a martinee posting about the beautiful sunset. Mark from Gox rode into the sunset flush with Bitcoin and a martinee in each hand and a grin on his face ! Ever seen The Shaw Shank Redemption Guys ? Mark is waiting for Paul on the beach RIGHT NOW ! I do not think Cryptsy would intentionally take run steal any ones money. I have said this before though people think there are grand conspiracy. At one point there were about 50 some employees to hard to keep secrets like that in a large organization. If it was happening or is it is well hidden. |
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Probably only because its nearly impossible to define exactly what it is... Points are a reward program so you get them free or buy them from someone else right? Then you can win. If anything its in the same category as fantasy football weekly winner shit. Worst case they get told not to do it anymore. |
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Thanks for letting us know what you think BitJohn. I was pretty damn surprised to see you chime in. But as you can see i quoted you before to be fair here to people. I didn't post that to be a dick but rather *try and help explain maybe why that happens. So yeah i was trying to be nice LOL  BitJohn do you have any thoughts why so many people may be complaining right now ? Any complaint i have with Cryptsy was 1 year+ ago.. But a LOT of guys are bitching and moaning something really doesn't seem right BJ. I am not saying that to be a dick nor to try and jump on you about the issues BitJohn (I'm sure Gleb has that covered LOL) And i know if you left you may have to watch what you say.. but figured i'd give it a shot and ask. BitJohn would you advise people to continue using Cryptsy ?Honestly I'm pretty done with altcoins and crypto altogether probably keep tabs on Bitcoin. But the banking and government regulation is just killing the fun in it all. So Id tell anyone I knew not to get into crypto if that answers your question haha. I think Polo, Bittrex and Cryptsy will get crushed by regulation and get run out of the scene by the Geminis of the world (banks). |
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BitJohn, I know you don't work there anymore; Maybe though, you have a clue why the ETH wallet is making TXID's for withdrawals yet they aren't showing up on the blockchain?
Custom integration, and bugs. Keep poking at them it'll get fixed. |
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I noticed this reply late from BitJohn.. it's interesting ! It's about partial withdrawals i think.. CHECK IT OUT GUYS "What exactly is the withdrawal issue?"
I cannot verify what others have experienced, only myself. For many of the alt coins there have been withdrawal problems over the last year. Let's say you put in a withdrawal for 100k FLO. It would show up as 100k pending. Then you'd refresh and it would show 50k. Then 25k. This happened to me many times, this halving of the number requested. Then some time around the first of this month it got REALLY bad. All BTC and LTC withdraws would go straight to pending and be forever "stuck". A request to cancel the withdrawal would be immediately followed if requested. A lot people were converting to DOGE to withdraw and then DOGE withdraws started locking up. Obviously people who arb coins would be the first to notice as their accounts will sometimes get out of balance and have to re-balanced by having to withdraw coin from exchange to exchange.
What your describing is what the programming does to mitigate wallet issues with too many inputs. So you make a withdraw the RPC request hangs. It cuts it in half and tries again (less inputs). It will continue to do that until the RPC call is successful.So i am wondering is this their explanation why you take out a small amount of say Vertcoins and it works but if you take out a large amount it fails ? Tell me what you all think and Cryptsy guys feel free to chime in i promise to be nice Ok well not JShock though..i don't like him he's a douche ROFL And i say that on behalf of every guy who has gotten a ban from him since DEC 2013  You can replicate the split withdraw thing on any wallet. Make a coin solo mine the crap out of it into your wallet try sending a large chunk of it to another wallet. The wallet will likely hang due to too many inputs. Long ago some code was added that essentially decided if the output wont send to try again splitting the withdraw amount, and it will repeat until coins are sent. Was not really an issue until the new fees system they put in. Now what really should be done is the process will repeat itself until the entire withdraw is fulfilled while charging the correct amount..... |
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BitJohn, what chances do all of the users that preordered the cryptsy card have of being refunded their $10 deposit?
The $10 bucks was held in escrow but the program is probably still going to happen when I left the first 300 were being printed. If not I think you'll get you money refunded. |
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- Disgruntled users with complaints that stretch back a long time. #FACT
What percentage is that from incompetence vs malicious or accidental intent ?
Tough to say for us "outsiders".. we're stuck piecing info together.. to try and get an answer.
Gleb and others have been instrumental in this data collection.. while Staff are silent.
Don't forget guys there has been a LOT of withdrawal problems last 2 months and more in waves before.
You can't just sluff that off as nothing.. people don't forget.
My contention all along has been honest transparency and keeping us informed. (BJ's Job ?)
I do understand that making an exchange early on before others copied you would be hard.
What Cryptsy did starting out was impressive and i couldn't do it web site coding wise.
But look at us today.. has the site been working properly ?
I have not used the site in a year or so but i hear it's waaaay worse.
Like receiving only part of your withdrawal ? really ?
Did BJ code the site ? His other involvement i can only speculate.. or take what he says under consideration.
I do know that who ever is responsible for coding it should be dragged out into the firing line and take the heat.
My grand Spoetnik Rant™ point here is this..
If Cryptsy is cleared of any fraudulent activity then they still face charges of incompetence ROFL
..that is just the way it is, sorry guys nothing personal.
haha definitely didn't code the site woulda done that myself and made BitJohnsy.com As far as investigations nope was never a one to my knowledge. We had that Secret Service guy who got arrested contact us once wanted info on a user was told to get a warrant. Lots of law enforcement contact stuff but in all cases a warrant was required for info. Many times it never came to my knowledge (the warrant that is). EDIT: Quoted the wrong message not gonna fix it lol. I did help promote bottle caps for a bit. The point of that coin was the fair launch no premine, premise. Was a small group of people handed that over to the multipool guys long ago. Lost money on that by the way the coin forked and price crashed haha. |
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I’ve since put on my credit security freeze, and informed my attorneys about the articles and rumors regarding Cryptsy’s purported violent/terrorist connections,” ThrillHou explained further. What is this referencing? Lol I am pretty sure that blog is referencing this aged thread. The other part is the things cited for the lawsuit wouldn't make sense. I could see the withdraw issues maybe. But come on a lawsuit about forgetting your password haha. |
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If it really matters I have stated I got a paycheck when the site went big that was after the WSJ article. You're the math wiz do the math its irrelevant to the discussion really.
Bottom line I volunteered, worked the job and quit the job. I don't own shares not a stakeholder. Simply its all dead to me. I don't mind helping keeping the facts straight because some shit folks come up with is straight up just bad info.
Where did Spoetnik go?
Honestly, the math is pretty simple. Hell, I'm pretty sure that even Leroy Fodor could do the math.
I enjoyed moderating so stayed on and volunteered for the next year.
Cryptsy had only one paid employee after a year and that was the accountant.
Cryptsy started on May 20, 2013. (May 20, 2013) + (1 years) = May 20, 2014 (May 20, 2013) + X = October, 2013 X = ~5 Months ~5 Months ≠ 1 Year October, 2013 ≠ May 20, 2013 I joined cryptsy yesterday and done a few trades and so far, so good.
Welcome new traders feel free to personally contact me if you have any issues. Either PM, support ticket or email at bitjohn@cryptsy.comSince when did unpaid moderators on forums start handling support tickets, thus privy to vitals of an entity's user base? According to the timestamp, Cryptsy had only been around less than 3 months (~10 weeks), with you handling support tickets that's outside a moderator's territory... AND, you provided such services for free, by all accounts, all the while serving in a war zone in Afghanistan at the time in your free time, again, by your own accounts. Still, crazily amazing, if you ask me. Thanks for affirming I am amazing. When Cryptsy started there was no support no admin page nothing... The support was the chat box, and we relayed the info to Paul. He eventually got a ticket system I enjoyed helping so I did. Again I did it because it was fun just like trolling on this forum is fun for you unless again your being paid which I doubt. You can make up facts or accept them those are the facts. I highlighted in ginormous troll font for you in the quote so you could see what I was referencing. |
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If it really matters I have stated I got a paycheck when the site went big that was after the WSJ article. You're the math wiz do the math its irrelevant to the discussion really.
Bottom line I volunteered, worked the job and quit the job. I don't own shares not a stakeholder. Simply its all dead to me. I don't mind helping keeping the facts straight because some shit folks come up with is straight up just bad info.
Where did Spoetnik go?
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Gleb you post here for free yes? So yeah I volunteered just like your volunteering to solve the evils of the world. As far as picking coins yep I did that as a moderator at the time. There were not a million to pick from I maintained the list. The list if you spent some time you would find the old one I emphasized no pre-mine fair releases. I did it because I liked crypto. You post here because you I assume like crypto.
Unless your saying your a paid shill and doing it for money. I do not think saying I volunteered is a reach. I will also say prior to the time I was paid the company didn't make much money. Vern had a side job.... Companies have costs the costs ate the majority of the revenues in the first year.
Cryptsy started on May 20, 2013. For the first year, you were an unpaid moderator because Cryptsy didn't yet have enough support to pay out salaries after having to pay overhead. This is up to circa Q2, 2014. Backing up to Q3, 2013, Cryptsy was overwhelmed with users due to the run-up of bitcoins, in turn, myriad altcoins, the viable ones (mostly, supposedly, at the time) trading on Cryptsy. This took enormous personnel to handle, yet you're saying that nobody at Cryptsy save for an accountant was paid for their services during the first year of operation? This doesn't even begin to make sense. Prior to the run-up just mullick and I worked support and did it as volunteers. The next person hired after accountant was the first developer/CTO. Im really not concerned if you think it makes sense its a fact. The site only had 30k account after the first year. EDIT: The support scaled pretty quickly when the support company was merged. Jshock and his crew joined the team. Mullick, and I trained them. Mullick moved to Florida, and started getting a paycheck. I joined after that. The CTO was Bryant Ibana: http://web.archive.org/web/20131102234026/https://www.cryptsy.com/pages/about https://www.linkedin.com/in/horus-thesun-48a56241 Don't forget that Horus was hired on in October, 2013, while you were still a moderator. You were still a moderator, supposedly, when you and Mullick trained the support team. I can only guess as to how much arm-twisting Paul Vernon had to do for you to finally start accepting a paycheck from the then-now in-the-black Cryptsy oppose to performing tremendous duties sans pay up to fully getting compensated. Horus was also a moderator at the time he, Prime and myself all started getting paid the same day shortly after Mullick. So yeah your tracking now. Yes Bryant was the first CTO. EDIT: It wasn't my only job unlike everyone else I had a job. I also was not available for 9-5 work. |
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Gleb you post here for free yes? So yeah I volunteered just like your volunteering to solve the evils of the world. As far as picking coins yep I did that as a moderator at the time. There were not a million to pick from I maintained the list. The list if you spent some time you would find the old one I emphasized no pre-mine fair releases. I did it because I liked crypto. You post here because you I assume like crypto.
Unless your saying your a paid shill and doing it for money. I do not think saying I volunteered is a reach. I will also say prior to the time I was paid the company didn't make much money. Vern had a side job.... Companies have costs the costs ate the majority of the revenues in the first year.
Cryptsy started on May 20, 2013. For the first year, you were an unpaid moderator because Cryptsy didn't yet have enough support to pay out salaries after having to pay overhead. This is up to circa Q2, 2014. Backing up to Q3, 2013, Cryptsy was overwhelmed with users due to the run-up of bitcoins, in turn, myriad altcoins, the viable ones (mostly, supposedly, at the time) trading on Cryptsy. This took enormous personnel to handle, yet you're saying that nobody at Cryptsy save for an accountant was paid for their services during the first year of operation? This doesn't even begin to make sense. Prior to the run-up just mullick and I worked support and did it as volunteers. The next person hired after accountant was the first developer/CTO. Im really not concerned if you think it makes sense its a fact. The site only had 30k account after the first year. EDIT: The support scaled pretty quickly when the support company was merged. Jshock and his crew joined the team. Mullick, and I trained them. Mullick moved to Florida, and started getting a paycheck. I joined after that. |
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That press release leaves out plenty of details. I do know Paul never received that money I think the only money Cryptsy ever received was in payroll to the developers.
My involvement and compensation was fixed just like any other job it was 40k a year. You get your salary you don't reap all the benefits of the company the shareholders reap the benefits. Very few companies do profit sharing Project investors was not one of them.
I cannot defend Mintsy as a company because after it started having issues I myself decided I was not going to promote it. My personal opinion is PI, and Digital BTC should just pay back the minimal liabilities owed.
As far as Cryptsy loved working there for a long time. Cannot vouch for what they have going on now, but I can say there is matter of fact no secret society there of coin devs, and hustlers. I already pointed out where I think they come from. I will say it again personally I think Mintpal, and Bittrex were the majority of the alt stream any company with ICO's makes the most sense. Only business model that works. The mass flow of alts destroyed the alt market so overall bad for business.
http://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20140917/pdf/42s89c4j1j9vj2.pdf I believe you're confusing a press release with a required SEC-esque filing. And, how can you say with 100% certainty that Paul Vernon didn't receive that million dollars? You are right I cannot say for certain. I can say that is what the CFO told me when I asked about what the hell was going on with Mintsy. That SEC-esque filing is still little more than a press release.... Personally I think Mintsy was a horrible idea I think the DigitalBTC folks are a bunch of fucking monkeys. |
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