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21  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Deep Onion on: April 10, 2018, 08:39:57 AM
It will be very interesting to see how many of the dozens of existing privacy coins will actually be around in a few years.  Some of the other privacy coins seem to have good code but almost no community and users behind them.  I think it is the strength of the deep onion community that will keep deep onion around much longer than most of  its competitors.

deep onion has the (paid) community but no privacy features yet, which is why it fell 20 times from the top, unlike real currencies like monero that fell even less then bitcoin (monero only fell 2x from the top). 50% vs 95%. Large spammy comunity of users paid and silenced by airdrops has no actual value. It's basilcy a pump and dump scheme for the founders.

Do your own research before buying. The research should include the mandatory "deep onion scam" google search, that will be very revealing Smiley
22  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: April 05, 2018, 02:50:59 PM
DeepOnion is somewhat confused with some people, but I think that this is not a scam or the project itself. Some people can use some tricks to deceive investors, but DeepOnion today has a good price.

that's what they said when it was 15$, then 10$, 5$, 1$. "The price is good, most undervalued coin". "It will MOON!" "Buy now or you will miss out." "200$ by the end of the year." "Do you think we will have 500 or 1000 by the end of the year?" . "Lets pump this boys".

The above is typical pump and dump rhetoric. We've seen it with penny stocks before, now we see it with shitcoins. Take a look at the deeponion thread. It's an embarrassing collection of pump and dump talk with nothing relevant in between.

People are keeping the silence because the dump is not over. Once the airdrop is done people will no longer have anything to loose if they start talking (aka get banned by the Chinese scammer that created DO)
23  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How is the current market state NOT a bubble? on: April 05, 2018, 01:46:25 PM
what metrics one would use to detect a bitcoin dubbls,  I have no idea. And the final stabilized price is anybody ,guess.

holly mother of necros! The topic is from 2011.

Point take though...people have been calling bitcoin a bubble for 7 years Smiley
24  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Deep Onion on: April 05, 2018, 12:22:42 PM
Any thoughts on buying this now?  Price went down a lot for it.

as did all coins. For now DO has no privacy features implemented other then tor integration, which really isn't necesary since you can run tor on your own. Yes they have some stuff on the roadmap, but a roadmap is just a promise. Plus they don't promise anything other privacy coins like monero or particl or pivx have.
25  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⚡ [ANN] DeepONION ⚡ TOR ⚡ DeepVault ⚡ Cryptopia ⭐ V 1.6.2 Released ⚡ Upgrade! ⭐ on: April 05, 2018, 12:12:30 PM
Why 40th Airdrop is a special one?
1. 350k $ONIONs
2. The new journey
3. Get rid of weak hand
And also there may be some special news for this Airdrop.

Great list you have there my friend. Couldn't agree more. After airdrop, brace yourself and we will fly to the moon.

you will only fly when the rest of the currencies fly. At first there will be a drop, so brace your self. After that who know. If the devs deliver on their promises it might rise

Also the concept of weak hands is flawed. For a currency to work it must be sold and bought. Period. If everybody holds and nobody sells, the liquidity will dry up, miners will stop mining and exchanges will unlist. That's a bad thing.
26  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: XSPEC x200 this year on: March 27, 2018, 05:54:14 PM
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Lol.

Don't avoid the question.

Can you read?

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I guess you'll never know for sure.  Huh

No one takes what you say seriously. You show up in every thread with a parody account with giant red letters strewn throughout your rambles. Its laughable.

This coin has a bright future. Its no secret that I believe in the project. People like you throw around the word shill as if it actually means something. Anyone invested in a coin is going to defend it. Multiple people have responded, including the dev, to the fud you and your buds keep spreading. Only thing thats going to prove you wrong is time and releases, which are coming.

Aside from that, XSPEC has had solid growth. Alt markets entered were super bullish from Dec - Jan and a retrace was expected. There are plenty of alts that have retraced to similar levels. Combine that with a lull in updates plus you and your FUD buddies, the price is around where I'd expect it for the current market atmosphere. I'm certainly buying more as this was my preferred entry into XSPEC.



I can assure you people are taking him seriously. The accusations against the "supposed" XSPEC team are very serious and have been independently confirmed. Of course they don't necessarily mean xspec is a scam but they certainly point in that direction.

The only way to prove XSPEC is not a scam is if the devs actually start producing some actual code, which they still haven't since they have taken over shadowcoin.

I'm glad to see jbg gone. He was a fraud. Now xspec may have a chance. Not sure if stealth staking is still on the roadmap or it was jbg's vaporware.
27  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: DeepOnion ($Onion) to be number one privacy coin Dec 2018 price around $300 on: March 07, 2018, 02:13:31 PM
The only, and only coin I would ever hold long term to play the "privacy crypto coin project" card which everyone seem to like to hold on their portfolios, is Monero. Every other anonymous coins has many flaws. I don't trust at all zero knowledge proof coins like ZCash project, what a disaster of a project. ZClassic could have been good I guess, but it still has the problem of the master keys having to be destroyed by the developers (and you assuming that they did).

Tor.. im not sure if you can trust the thing anymore.

What else is there? not much, so Monero seems like the coolest anonymous coin project so far.

totaly agree with this. It will be very hard for any coin to take the #1 from Monero. Deeponion doesn't even have it's features on the roadmap, let alone implemented.

Right now it has 0 privacy. If I was to bet on an outcome I would bet that it would slowly collapse after the airdrops end. Google "deeponion scam" to understand why
28  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I'm gonna sell my house on: March 07, 2018, 01:51:44 PM
"the greater the risk the greater the reward". this moment is the bottom of crypto price. I believe that if you can choose the a good portfolio, you will be the same with Bill Gate

OP supposedly did this in January. If he really did that he lost his house by now.

There is no way to know where the bottom is, or if there is one.
29  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: XSPEC x200 this year on: March 06, 2018, 11:54:05 AM
Now would be a great time to buy.

it's called catching a falling knife. Time to limit risk not get more of it...
30  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why I chose not to invest in SpectreCoin (XSPEC) now on: March 06, 2018, 11:43:57 AM
I want to thank you gunner833 for your detailed informations about xspecter. Hard to find and get such neutral and informative informations.
Unfortunately I started reading about your postings today. I am holding some coins and would have sold most of them if I would followed your postings earlier.
I am not sure what to do now since the price is down and I am holding a small amount of coins. Anyway I will try to keep following your posts, they seem valuable.

same here. Thanks gunner. I didn't do my due diligence until gunner mentioned that github needs a close inspection.

I can confirm everything he said about the lack results. Over the course of a few hours I did a quick code review of all changes since last summer and other then a few UI changes (colors and alignments) and some quick version updates there isn't much, not even what a single part time dev should produce. The guy has been getting paid a lot of money to basically do nothing. What does this mean? It means all those promises of stealth staking are probably empty as well. He will never deliver on anything substantial.

And all those pathetic fanboys that cry FUD can just come up with a commit hash and argue otherwise, show us the incredible work done by two full time devs with 40 years of combined experience.
31  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Deep Onion on: March 06, 2018, 10:54:29 AM
The owner is a chinees fellow
Do you have any proof of that?

He fakes his account hack to get rid of -16 trust. Yes, -16. He is a full time scammer.
Do you have any proof of that?


both of these are common knowledge and you can read about it in the first few pages of their ANN thread. I can't prove the account wasn't hacked like he says, but think about it a little: bitcointalk staff "refused" to help and the "hacker" didn't even bother to use the account to make a single post. And conveniently he gets rid of the -16 trust he had in the process. You need to be a bit naive to believe all this.
32  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: March 06, 2018, 10:10:47 AM
If DeepOnion is a scam why some people are millionaires now? This is the best privacy coin today, DeepOnion is legit, Well organized and have a best planned not only about the project, but also to their members in the community, If you don't believe me come and join us today and you'll see how strong and loyal we are

early investors of a ponzy scheme do become millionarirs. That's the point Smiley

I've just sold my ONIONs and removed my sig. I've been silent until today because otherwise I would have been banned from the airdrops. I got in to late to reap in on the big profits and got out because there are too few airdrops left and it's most likely just going to burn down when they are done.

The coin has no other features other then the tor integration which is useless by the way. Those that wanted to stay private already use tor because that's the only way to get on the dark web.

It has NO OTHER PRIVACY at all. All transactions are just as traceable as as with bitcoin. 0 privacy.

They have some features on the road map they may bring SOME privacy, but nothing like monero, pivx or particl. Their promised deepsend is just the old coinjoin algorithm that many other coins have and it's a joke. And it's not even in.

The owner is a chinees fellow that moderates and bans everybody that says anything bad. He fakes his account hack to get rid of -16 trust. Yes, -16. He is a full time scammer. Now he already has -2 on his new account.

The thread is just a collection of memes sign in deepvault (wtf is up with that useless feature???) and "lets pump this" messages. If you look a bit into the anatomy of a pump and dump scam you will recognize the language and discussions. All spam, all useless messages from a PAID community! Yes it's PAID by the airdrop. You are paid to stay quiet and post! Do a bit of research here: https://cryptoslate.com/us-government-engages-bounty-hunters-war-pump-dumps/

Get out of ONION before it's too late. Right now you are pumping so the old whales can dump. And if you look at the dev wallets you will see they are. Why do you think ONION is falling down while all other alts are gaining 20-30% now?

You are obviously just desperate bacuse the price is currenctly down.
Why did you even buy onions if you don't like the project?
You bought for 7 Dollars and sold for 3. LoL
DVW7iRTv4DZd9vqbq5iMWzWWFiXb3Pjnvb


it's not about the price being down. All currencies are down. Don't play the envy/desperate card because there is nothing to envy here or be desperate about. If you make some quick math you will realize that because of airdrops between the 7$ buy and 3$ sell I didn't loose a single dollar despise the drop. It's about the coin not being private at all and the owners not being honest. The simple fact that you managed to dig up the transaction data above is proof enough. You made my case.
33  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: March 05, 2018, 12:04:35 PM
If DeepOnion is a scam why some people are millionaires now? This is the best privacy coin today, DeepOnion is legit, Well organized and have a best planned not only about the project, but also to their members in the community, If you don't believe me come and join us today and you'll see how strong and loyal we are

early investors of a ponzy scheme do become millionarirs. That's the point Smiley

I've just sold my ONIONs and removed my sig. I've been silent until today because otherwise I would have been banned from the airdrops. I got in to late to reap in on the big profits and got out because there are too few airdrops left and it's most likely just going to burn down when they are done.

The coin has no other features other then the tor integration which is useless by the way. Those that wanted to stay private already use tor because that's the only way to get on the dark web.

It has NO OTHER PRIVACY at all. All transactions are just as traceable as as with bitcoin. 0 privacy.

They have some features on the road map they may bring SOME privacy, but nothing like monero, pivx or particl. Their promised deepsend is just the old coinjoin algorithm that many other coins have and it's a joke. And it's not even in.

The owner is a chinees fellow that moderates and bans everybody that says anything bad. He fakes his account hack to get rid of -16 trust. Yes, -16. He is a full time scammer. Now he already has -2 on his new account.

The thread is just a collection of memes sign in deepvault (wtf is up with that useless feature???) and "lets pump this" messages. If you look a bit into the anatomy of a pump and dump scam you will recognize the language and discussions. All spam, all useless messages from a PAID community! Yes it's PAID by the airdrop. You are paid to stay quiet and post! Do a bit of research here: https://cryptoslate.com/us-government-engages-bounty-hunters-war-pump-dumps/

Get out of ONION before it's too late. Right now you are pumping so the old whales can dump. And if you look at the dev wallets you will see they are. Why do you think ONION is falling down while all other alts are gaining 20-30% now?

WOW! This sounds at least funny. Dude, you served and supported that scammers for a long time and was paid for that. Now you are trying to be a good guy again? What about morality issues? Or you don't give a shit about that?

you are right, there is a morality issue here and like all immoral things there is a justification. Mine was that even if I had my doubts when I first bought the onions I wasn't actually sure until I "participated" in the "community" and recognized the rhetoric of a pump and dump. By then January came and I no longer had the luxury of a clean exit. The airdrops have softened the blow at least for this part of my portfolio and it would have been a bad financial move to get out. It's still bad but whatever. I can't stand them. I'd rather tell people to get out now before the charade ends.

To my defense I've never recommanded onion to anybody (you can check my post history), other then wear the sig from the campaign. Everybody should know though, that a signature is an adspace like all others...
34  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]Spectrecoin[XSPEC] TOR+OBFS4, Ring Sig, Stealth! on: March 05, 2018, 11:27:13 AM
Nothing has really happened. My understanding is the Devs in general are late with updates, mainly because they have other real life concerns and are seemingly working on this project for free at the moment. So v 1.4 being late isn't a concern to me at all, especially since the main dev has explained his week long absence on the Discord channel.

The price drop seems to be in large part because of the above linked forum post calling XSpec a scam, and then using only a few lines of code to prove their point. What bothers me most is that while the code may be simpler than we expected, the devs aren't making off with millions of dollars of investors funds. THIS IS NOT A SCAM! It may not be the privacy changing coin we all expected, but to call it a "scam" is idiotic. A poor project would be much better English than calling it a scam, although I think the project is fine.

Personally I don't mind the FUD because I've been able to quadruple my XSpec holdings this weekend alone. The project is fine--stop letting price changes over short periods change your opinions. (Or keep panic selling to me, that's fine too!)

they are not working for free...they get about 6000 euros a month in donations. And they are supposedly working full time, but the github commits from last year doesn't reflect that. Yes there sooo many commits but if you look a bit into them other the the tor integration there is absolutely nothing! And even the tor integration has the firefox binaries just copied over. It's not a native one like advertised. So what have they been doing with all this time? Jesus, do you realize what two full time devs can accomplish in 1 year?

Doesn't change the fact that. Xspec is still here!
It's not going away.
And it's one of the best low priced privacy coins on the market.

correction: shadowcoin is still here. Xspec is shadowcoin with 1 dodgy guy that tries to convince us that there are two full time developers working on the project, while taking donations from everybody.

I'll eat my words when these two developers finally deliver some code that is more then a UI update or library upgrade.
35  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Deep Onion on: March 05, 2018, 11:19:19 AM
I've just sold my ONIONs and removed my sig. I've been silent until today because otherwise I would have been banned from the airdrops. I got in to late to reap in on the big profits and got out because there are too few airdrops left and it's most likely just going to burn down when they are done.

The coin has no other features other then the tor integration which is useless by the way. Those that wanted to stay private already use tor because that's the only way to get on the dark web.

It has NO OTHER PRIVACY at all. All transactions are just as traceable as as with bitcoin. 0 privacy.

They have some features on the road map they may bring SOME privacy, but nothing like monero, pivx or particl. Their promised deepsend is just the old coinjoin algorithm that many other coins have and it's a joke. And it's not even in.

The owner is a chinees fellow that moderates and bans everybody that says anything bad. He fakes his account hack to get rid of -16 trust. Yes, -16. He is a full time scammer. Now he already has -2 on his new account.

The thread is just a collection of memes sign in deepvault (wtf is up with that useless feature???) and "lets pump this" messages. If you look a bit into the anatomy of a pump and dump scam you will recognize the language and discussions. All spam, all useless messages from a PAID community! Yes it's PAID by the airdrop. You are paid to stay quiet and post! Do a bit of research here: https://cryptoslate.com/us-government-engages-bounty-hunters-war-pump-dumps/

Get out of ONION before it's too late. Right now you are pumping so the old whales can dump. And if you look at the dev wallets you will see they are. Why do you think ONION is falling down while all other alts are gaining 20-30% now?
36  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why I chose not to invest in SpectreCoin (XSPEC) now on: March 05, 2018, 09:21:25 AM

And even if you were right (and I strongly argue you are not) that the two devs are not pulling their weight, then they are truly geniuses who with "just a few code changes" or "library updates" as you claim, are managing to create a cryptocurrency that has technicaly features which rival (and surpass) some of the best known and best funded coins out there.


except they din't deliver anything yet. Yes, XSPEC is a good privacy coin, but not thanks to these two. Eveything that makes XSPEC good was implemented in shadowcoin and these guys just took the code and implemented tor obfs4 instead of the old tor integration. And they also did a shady job on that because they just copied the tor binaries from firefox and call them on command line.

Can you show me anything else these two guys have implemented? Let the code speak. Please paste the commit link and lets discuss their merits.
37  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: March 05, 2018, 08:58:20 AM
If DeepOnion is a scam why some people are millionaires now? This is the best privacy coin today, DeepOnion is legit, Well organized and have a best planned not only about the project, but also to their members in the community, If you don't believe me come and join us today and you'll see how strong and loyal we are

early investors of a ponzy scheme do become millionarirs. That's the point Smiley

I've just sold my ONIONs and removed my sig. I've been silent until today because otherwise I would have been banned from the airdrops. I got in to late to reap in on the big profits and got out because there are too few airdrops left and it's most likely just going to burn down when they are done.

The coin has no other features other then the tor integration which is useless by the way. Those that wanted to stay private already use tor because that's the only way to get on the dark web.

It has NO OTHER PRIVACY at all. All transactions are just as traceable as as with bitcoin. 0 privacy.

They have some features on the road map they may bring SOME privacy, but nothing like monero, pivx or particl. Their promised deepsend is just the old coinjoin algorithm that many other coins have and it's a joke. And it's not even in.

The owner is a chinees fellow that moderates and bans everybody that says anything bad. He fakes his account hack to get rid of -16 trust. Yes, -16. He is a full time scammer. Now he already has -2 on his new account.

The thread is just a collection of memes sign in deepvault (wtf is up with that useless feature???) and "lets pump this" messages. If you look a bit into the anatomy of a pump and dump scam you will recognize the language and discussions. All spam, all useless messages from a PAID community! Yes it's PAID by the airdrop. You are paid to stay quiet and post! Do a bit of research here: https://cryptoslate.com/us-government-engages-bounty-hunters-war-pump-dumps/

Get out of ONION before it's too late. Right now you are pumping so the old whales can dump. And if you look at the dev wallets you will see they are. Why do you think ONION is falling down while all other alts are gaining 20-30% now?
38  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]Spectrecoin[XSPEC] TOR+OBFS4, Ring Sig, Stealth! on: March 05, 2018, 08:33:01 AM
Nothing has really happened. My understanding is the Devs in general are late with updates, mainly because they have other real life concerns and are seemingly working on this project for free at the moment. So v 1.4 being late isn't a concern to me at all, especially since the main dev has explained his week long absence on the Discord channel.

The price drop seems to be in large part because of the above linked forum post calling XSpec a scam, and then using only a few lines of code to prove their point. What bothers me most is that while the code may be simpler than we expected, the devs aren't making off with millions of dollars of investors funds. THIS IS NOT A SCAM! It may not be the privacy changing coin we all expected, but to call it a "scam" is idiotic. A poor project would be much better English than calling it a scam, although I think the project is fine.

Personally I don't mind the FUD because I've been able to quadruple my XSpec holdings this weekend alone. The project is fine--stop letting price changes over short periods change your opinions. (Or keep panic selling to me, that's fine too!)

they are not working for free...they get about 6000 euros a month in donations. And they are supposedly working full time, but the github commits from last year doesn't reflect that. Yes there sooo many commits but if you look a bit into them other the the tor integration there is absolutely nothing! And even the tor integration has the firefox binaries just copied over. It's not a native one like advertised. So what have they been doing with all this time? Jesus, do you realize what two full time devs can accomplish in 1 year?
39  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Particl•PART|Confidential Transactions|Atomic Swaps|Cold Staking|P2P Marketplace on: March 05, 2018, 08:26:06 AM
I know the devs behind particl are the same people behind the now defunct shadowcoin. May I know the reason why shadowcoin was abandoned to start a new project? Is there a link or article perhaps about it?
40  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]Spectrecoin[XSPEC] TOR+OBFS4, Ring Sig, Stealth! on: March 02, 2018, 04:38:38 PM
as you can see stopped the altcoin hype at end of january : https://coinmarketcap.com/charts/#dominance-percentage

and as you can see here the same time devs stopped with their fake developement: https://github.com/XSPECOfficial

this coin is dead. we got scammed

Another attempt to spread FUD? Nothing fake about this, and nobody is getting scammed. You seem to mistake a strategic pause in focused marketing for a stopped project. If you cared to look at the Discord channel discussions, you would notice that this project is very much alive and kicking.



I have a question: I know we have 1-2 devs (anonymous). Are they working full time or in their spare time? Following the above comments I've started a review of all commits from last year and I'm trying to understand the context. I mean there are lots of commits but it's mostly meaningless UI stuff like aligning something here and there. I've yet to see any code that actually improves on the core...
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