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This is why I think the true price is probably around .25 to .30 instead of 60-80. The software is difficult to install on linux, there are issues with Qt, like you mentioned. There shouldnt be any problems with how long xspec has been around with an up to date stable ubuntu or debian system. The day the rich list is removed with an update, this coin is worth 20-30.
Can you explain your valuation model? I fail to see why it should be .25 to .3. The wallet runs smoothly on Windows. Yes, some people seem to have issues with the Linux install, others managed just well. I believe the new version will address some of these challenges. But none of this is new, and was already built into the price when it was 5 USD. So again, it would appreciate if you shared your valuation model. |
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March 03, 2018, 05:24:11 PM |
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But it's dying, I'm on the project, and I'm going to buy more at this bad time for xspec.
If it's dying (and you have not justified why you believe that), why the hell are you buying more? Either it's dying and then it has no future, or it's just temporarily under pressure but has a rosy future. It is dying at the moment, but it will rise again from the ashes as fenix so I will buy more.  |
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March 03, 2018, 07:33:43 PM |
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... It is dying at the moment, but it will rise again from the ashes as fenix so I will buy more. Ah ... an allegory.. ... I would have not chosen such a dramatic picture myself (I'm more in the sleeping beauty camp) but OK. A Phoenix from the Ashes it is. |
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March 03, 2018, 09:07:05 PM |
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This is why I think the true price is probably around .25 to .30 instead of 60-80. The software is difficult to install on linux, there are issues with Qt, like you mentioned. There shouldnt be any problems with how long xspec has been around with an up to date stable ubuntu or debian system. The day the rich list is removed with an update, this coin is worth 20-30.
Can you explain your valuation model? I fail to see why it should be .25 to .3. The wallet runs smoothly on Windows. Yes, some people seem to have issues with the Linux install, others managed just well. I believe the new version will address some of these challenges. But none of this is new, and was already built into the price when it was 5 USD. So again, it would appreciate if you shared your valuation model. This valuation is purely based on nov/dec 2017 prices before the large increase. A coin always reaches previous levels again before prices start to increase. Spectrecoin's uprun was incredible, 2k sats to 40k sats. |
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March 03, 2018, 09:17:31 PM |
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Every day passing without 1.4 release is another confirmation this is a scam.
It is not fud, all accusations are documented. The silence of the dev is yet another confirmation of it all.
Hope this will die soon so people can focus on real projects.
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X4s
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March 03, 2018, 09:37:08 PM |
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Every day passing without 1.4 release is another confirmation this is a scam.
It is not fud, all accusations are documented. The silence of the dev is yet another confirmation of it all.
Hope this will die soon so people can focus on real projects.
What are these real projects? |
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March 03, 2018, 09:51:30 PM |
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what happend to this coin.. I belived in it, but it disapointed me. good privacy coin...
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Nothing has really happened. My understanding is the Devs in general are late with updates, mainly because they have other real life concerns and are seemingly working on this project for free at the moment. So v 1.4 being late isn't a concern to me at all, especially since the main dev has explained his week long absence on the Discord channel.
The price drop seems to be in large part because of the above linked forum post calling XSpec a scam, and then using only a few lines of code to prove their point. What bothers me most is that while the code may be simpler than we expected, the devs aren't making off with millions of dollars of investors funds. THIS IS NOT A SCAM! It may not be the privacy changing coin we all expected, but to call it a "scam" is idiotic. A poor project would be much better English than calling it a scam, although I think the project is fine.
Personally I don't mind the FUD because I've been able to quadruple my XSpec holdings this weekend alone. The project is fine--stop letting price changes over short periods change your opinions. (Or keep panic selling to me, that's fine too!)
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March 04, 2018, 08:20:38 AM |
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But it's dying, I'm on the project, and I'm going to buy more at this bad time for xspec.
If it's dying (and you have not justified why you believe that), why the hell are you buying more? Either it's dying and then it has no future, or it's just temporarily under pressure but has a rosy future. It is dying at the moment, but it will rise again from the ashes as fenix so I will buy more. You are just opportunistic and a total gambler. Good luck. Hope you can survive or die anyway. |
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March 04, 2018, 02:07:21 PM |
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Can't find any mining pools?
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DarkGnyss
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March 04, 2018, 02:43:46 PM |
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Can't find any mining pools?
PoS. Just take you wallet online |
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March 04, 2018, 03:18:22 PM |
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There appears to be a lot of FUD appearing in altcoin discussions and unfortunately people are starting to believe it due to the open source nature of github, and the fact that there are few commits and they offer very little in terms of actual development. My knowledge is limited so perhaps someone here can post a supportive explanation on this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3055715.0It is a really hard time, again, for XSPEC. Hmm? A lot of FUD around and no response from dev make the case worse. Can we have another bottom at 2000-3000 satoshi, soon? Jesus! yes, xspec is dying, intense fud ... Nothing and nobody is dying here. People who fall for the fudding have no interest in learning about the project in full, but already have a preconceived, un-validated notion which they seek confirmation for. If you join the Discord channel, you can assess for yourself how exciting this project is and how an enthusiastic community it has. Also, think about it this way: what's the objective of the fudder to either create an account just to trash XSPEC or to spend an exorbitant amount of time building a misleading narrative based on a few chosen points, and without ever considering the full picture? Do you really think they have altruistic intentions, wanting nothing else than to better the world? Or do you think they are doing this since they get some personal reward (or pleasure) from trying to trash a project? Isn't it more likely that they have holdings in another privacy coin, and fear the growing, unstoppable competition from XSPEC? I'm not an Anti-XSPEC, i love the features and it has potential on crypto market. but, they are lacking with their marketing skill. BTW. I am Hodler of Deeponion, XSPEC, Verge, and other altcoins who has TOR features. |
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pvk444
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March 04, 2018, 08:20:55 PM |
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Every day passing without 1.4 release is another confirmation this is a scam.
It is not fud, all accusations are documented. The silence of the dev is yet another confirmation of it all.
Hope this will die soon so people can focus on real projects.
You are being conned by the fudders. Do you really think they are here just to make the world a better place, or is it more likely that do they have some alterior motives to simply smear a project for their own financial benefit? Projects have delays. Full stop. Counting lines of code as proxy for effort put in, is blatantly misleading. Every heard of E=mc2 ? Three letters and a number, but what a huge difference this made. Even small code changes can have significant impact. And recognizing the simplicity of a solution after finding does not have anything to do with the effort it takes to find the solution in the first instance. Finding a bug is a good example : it might require nothing but changing a comma, but finding the bug and determining the most simple solution might take days. People shouting scam have no idea about the history or what lies behind. They just use superficial arguments to paint a negative picture, and to push their narratives on gullible people. |
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March 04, 2018, 08:41:14 PM |
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buy me a beer with Tezos tz1eUaNAVLTxCkQ2zDjbiYzPfFpVETfbZsrX
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March 04, 2018, 09:34:19 PM |
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@koko - what a ridiculous statement.....the man has a life....the coin has been developing since last year.
If every project that released a little later was scam there would be very few of them.
I wouldn't hold my breath waiting on the project to die.....just isn't going to happen.
The haters have reached a new level.LOL
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March 04, 2018, 09:39:36 PM |
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It's just plain wrong to call XSPEC a scam. This is a serious project but we have had to pull through a lot of criticism and FUD to get to where we are. We have a very strong community and everyone knows that this is a major part of driving the project forward. The team is working on the next release and it will be out. I believe the best way to answer all the FUD is not to be drawn into discussion but to keep releasing the software and make it count.
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March 04, 2018, 09:42:44 PM |
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I have a feeling that it is going to become a new age hub for the black market.
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It's just plain wrong to call XSPEC a scam. This is a serious project but we have had to pull through a lot of criticism and FUD to get to where we are. We have a very strong community and everyone knows that this is a major part of driving the project forward. The team is working on the next release and it will be out. I believe the best way to answer all the FUD is not to be drawn into discussion but to keep releasing the software and make it count.
Hey mandica, welcome back on the scene! I'm not going to oppose any of the FUD because I like it. I hope the price will go down to 30 cents again so I can buy another 100k.  Remember guys, blockchains don't die with the developers. All of this FUD is about Jbg, but that is missing the point completely. He's just our core developer at the moment (and personally I don't think that he's been doing a bad job so far), but that doesn't mean that there won't be any additional devs in the future. Think long-term, we will together make this project succeed eventually.  If you invest in a blockchain, you should invest into the project core and the people holding a stake in it, who are interested in making it succeed. |
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March 05, 2018, 05:14:02 AM |
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I have been getting staking rewards about every 7-8 days up until 17th Feb. Since then, nothing.
Why?
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March 05, 2018, 05:25:09 AM |
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It's just plain wrong to call XSPEC a scam. This is a serious project but we have had to pull through a lot of criticism and FUD to get to where we are. We have a very strong community and everyone knows that this is a major part of driving the project forward. The team is working on the next release and it will be out. I believe the best way to answer all the FUD is not to be drawn into discussion but to keep releasing the software and make it count.
Hey mandica, welcome back on the scene! I'm not going to oppose any of the FUD because I like it. I hope the price will go down to 30 cents again so I can buy another 100k. Remember guys, blockchains don't die with the developers. All of this FUD is about Jbg, but that is missing the point completely. He's just our core developer at the moment (and personally I don't think that he's been doing a bad job so far), but that doesn't mean that there won't be any additional devs in the future. Think long-term, we will together make this project succeed eventually. If you invest in a blockchain, you should invest into the project core and the people holding a stake in it, who are interested in making it succeed. Hear! Hear! I totally agree. Most who are committed to Xspec did some kind of research before hand. Despite the current criticisms we appreciate jbg's input and presence so long as he remains. We also know that Xspec is a great project and the future of any great project relies as much on its community as it does on the Dev. Those who are shaken out by current "news" and "revelations" didn't really do their due diligence before they came on board, or they invested more than they could afford to invest. I think they need to be shaken out for their own peace of mind. But some of us see the crazy potential in Xspec. Xspec is here to stay kiddo. Sorry to disappoint the naysayers. |
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