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21  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why Does the Far Right Hold a Near-Monopoly on Political Violence? on: October 31, 2018, 09:40:36 PM
No one look at Communism btw, those hundreds of millions of dead don't count as leftist violence!

umm... got a source for that?

There isn't any war in history where "hundreds of millions" died... that simply never happened

Are you adding up the deaths from every war combined, and blaming it all on "leftists"?
22  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Explosive devices sent to Bill/Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, George Soros, CNN, Source discussion on: October 31, 2018, 09:33:03 PM
It is totally irrelevant. The point is the record of attacks. This is not a matter of opinion or sources.

Then stop being a douche and post a source that isn't from an anonymous forum

If you can't find one, then it doesn't exist, it's that simple

Calling me stupid for not trusting an anonymous source is getting this conversation nowhere

Mods might as well delete half this thread since it's now an off-topic waste of space

Are you going to continue trolling with nonsense, or will you post a legitimate source?  Anyone want to make a wager?
23  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Cryptocurrency fulfilling the prophecy from Revelation? on: October 31, 2018, 02:42:32 PM
Christians have been screaming "end times" for 2000 years... this is nothing new

This isn't even the first time they have claimed this exact prophecy... as a kid, my church said credit cards were this prophecy from revelations

Have you actually read the book of Revelations?  It's one of the best books in the bible, though it wouldn't hurt if you were tripping on acid like the author
24  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump wants to end birthright citizenship on: October 31, 2018, 02:38:55 PM
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So what should happen to a baby born in the US to an American citizen father and a non American citizen mother?

Sounds like a pretty unique circumstance that could be interpreted by the courts if they were to go back to the original definition, or at least the definition that the author was trying to get across, as was stated before!

Good question though.

I'm curious on your position on this situation tbh.  Would you consider the baby to be an American citizen if birth right citizenship was revoked?

Any child born in the US is a US citizen by the 14th amendment, neither parent even has to be a citizen... an executive order by Trump cannot change a constitutional amendment

Even if only 1 parent is a citizen and the baby is born in a foreign country, the baby is a US citizen, so long as the parent was physically present in the US or a US territory within the last 5 years

If you want to read more, feel free, here is a link:
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-legal-considerations/us-citizenship/Acquisition-US-Citizenship-Child-Born-Abroad.html
25  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What are the real reasons Trump wants to stop the Caravan? on: October 31, 2018, 02:28:07 PM
You're not entitled to live anywhere besides where you have citizenship. I just don't understand how some people can defend illegals who are completetly trying to bypass the immigration system. That's a complete and utter slap in the face to people who have came to countries legally.

He wants to stop the Caravan because that's the law of the land, it's crazy thinking that a President can't do this sort of thing. I don't get it.

Why am I the only one who has heard of the Geneva Convention or The Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees?

There is nothing illegal about what they are doing... this is all within the law that has been followed for 70 years
26  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What are the real reasons Trump wants to stop the Caravan? on: October 31, 2018, 02:23:49 PM
Millions of undocumented people have been flooding in for years.

Yup, every single US citizen who is not native american is an immigrant, or has an ancestor who immigrated to the US... the first illegal immigrants killed the majority of the native population, and declared that they owned the land

The truth is, more people have migrated from the US to Mexico, than from Mexico to the US in the past decade:

More Mexicans Leaving Than Coming to the U.S.

Net Loss of 140,000 from 2009 to 2014; Family Reunification Top Reason for Return

More Mexican immigrants have returned to Mexico from the U.S. than have migrated here since the end of the Great Recession, according to a new Pew Research Center analysis of newly available government data from both countries. The same data sources also show the overall flow of Mexican immigrants between the two countries is at its smallest since the 1990s, mostly due to a drop in the number of Mexican immigrants coming to the U.S.

From 2009 to 2014, 1 million Mexicans and their families (including U.S.-born children) left the U.S. for Mexico, according to data from the 2014 Mexican National Survey of Demographic Dynamics (ENADID). U.S. census data for the same period show an estimated 870,000 Mexican nationals left Mexico to come to the U.S., a smaller number than the flow of families from the U.S. to Mexico.

27  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What are the real reasons Trump wants to stop the Caravan? on: October 31, 2018, 02:14:55 PM
I have this thing called empathy, so I tend to put myself in someone else's shoes...

If I was living in some shit-hole country, where US economic policy and/or bombs have devastated my home land... I would think, "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em", and walk my ass to the US with the rest of the caravan

What I don't understand is people who think they are entitled to live in a country, but others are not

Nobody says that. Anyone can apply for the immigration visa and immigrate to the US legally.  

This is not immigration, this is refugee and asylum claims, totally different process and laws... there is nothing illegal about walking to the border and requesting asylum/refugee status... every claim will be checked by seasoned professionals who do this all the time
28  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What are the real reasons Trump wants to stop the Caravan? on: October 31, 2018, 02:03:56 PM
I have this thing called empathy, so I tend to put myself in someone else's shoes...

If I was living in some shit-hole country, where US economic policy and/or bombs have devastated my home land... I would think, "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em", and walk my ass to the US with the rest of the caravan

What I don't understand is people who think they are entitled to live in a country, but others are not
29  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What are the real reasons Trump wants to stop the Caravan? on: October 31, 2018, 01:53:51 PM
Seeing as terrorism is a big problem, along with potential future conflict with Russia and China, unidentified persons slipping into the country would quite clearly constitute a threat to national security, among other things.

Don't forget smallpox, it would be such a shame if the caravan was able to bring that back into the US eh?  That might threaten hundreds of millions of Americans!

If it was only smallpox I wouldn't be so worried.  According to Fox News, they are carrying smallpox, leprosy, HIV, measles, pertussis, rubella, rabies, hepatitis A, influenza, tuberculosis, shigellosis, and syphilis (yes, they said all this, I queued the linked video)... I'm not sure how they are going to survive another 2 months on foot trekking through Mexico with all that

Trump and Fox News’s Caravan Hysteria Reaches a Fever Pitch | The Daily Show (time = 5:58)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqj1C9G3GBw&t=5m58s
30  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Explosive devices sent to Bill/Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, George Soros, CNN, Source discussion on: October 31, 2018, 01:41:29 PM
(don't even bother reading this)

Listen guy... I took your previous post seriously and spent the time to personally fact check 2 of the 16 things on the list... both were false

I stopped reading your link when I saw that it was posted by "Tyler Durden"... I recognized that name having seen the movie Fight Club and instead of reading the article, I went and checked to see if the website was even a half-way legitimate source, and it isn't... I am done wasting my time with your bullshit nonsense

If you tried using that website/article as a source in a research paper, you would fail... so no, I didn't read your stupid article and I'm done talking about it since you can't link a reputable source instead of wasting everyone's time with this nonsense

Bye Troll
31  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What are the real reasons Trump wants to stop the Caravan? on: October 31, 2018, 01:30:20 PM
[propaganda snipped]
They don't have rights to asylum, even if they did, Mexico is a safe harbor country which has offered them asylum. By passing thru Mexico they have no right to claim asylum here, EVEN IF they had a valid claim.

There is no law which states a refugee in need of asylum must go to the nearest available country.  Some of them already applied for asylum here... the average approval rate is 76%, with the last caravan which arrived in April being 93% acceptance

Trump and many GOP candidates have claimed that they are trying to illegally enter the country. But a look at the most recent caravan, which reached the U.S. border in April, paints a very different picture.

According to data and congressional testimony from U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services officials, 122 members of that caravan were caught trying to illegally enter the country. But 401 members of the caravan presented themselves at ports of entry and requested asylum.

Federal officials interviewed those asylum-seekers and found 374 of them, or 93 percent, passed their initial "credible fear" test. That’s higher than the 76 percent approval rate that all asylum-seekers received in fiscal year 2018, according to Citizenship and Immigration Services data.
32  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Explosive devices sent to Bill/Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, George Soros, CNN, Source discussion on: October 31, 2018, 01:10:16 PM
If your only link is a website which lets anyone post anonymously... you don't understand what a legitimate source is

The article you linked is written by "Tyler Durden" (the narrator from Fight Club)... it was posted yesterday... probably written by you (can you prove you didn't write it?  Tyler Durden, eh?)

our method: pseudonymous speech

anonymity is a shield from the tyranny of the majority...

the right to remain anonymous may be abused...

On the 27 March 2012, Daniel Ivandjiiski was named as a co-conspirator in a civil complaint regarding complaint for damages and equitable relief
(...)
On the 24 September 2015, the SEC charged a number of senior executives of GEROVA, and a number of major investors in GEROVA with a stock fraud scheme, for which several, including the former company Chairman and President, Gary Hirst, received jail sentences in 2017

Nice source you got there bud... not the slightest bit reputable, though I am not surprised

Got anything from a legitimate news source?  I'd even accept Fox News at this point...

Mad because his source is bullshit, read it if you want
#FakeNews

I'm not going to take it any more serious than this forum right here, because that's exactly what that "source" is... it is an anonymous internet forum, where anyone can post anything they want

I don't get my news from anonymous internet forums, why do you?

If you can find the same information from a reputable source, I'll read it... until then, it's at best anonymous, 3rd party hearsay, which hasn't been fact-checked, and not worth my time reading... just like your posts here... you might even be linking to yourself as a source because these are both anonymous forums...
33  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What are the real reasons Trump wants to stop the Caravan? on: October 31, 2018, 12:28:44 PM
Trump hates colored people and poor people... these are both, so he hates them double

Trump is breaking international law... specifically, The Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees, also known as the 1951 Refugee Convention
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_Relating_to_the_Status_of_Refugees

A person who owing to a well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion, is outside the country of his nationality and is unable or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to avail himself of the protection of that country; or who, not having a nationality and being outside the country of his former habitual residence as a result of such events, is unable or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to return to it.

I really hate to see Trump destroy international laws... I consider that a crime against humanity
34  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why Does the Far Right Hold a Near-Monopoly on Political Violence? on: October 31, 2018, 12:16:10 PM
Republicans create terrorists
Any proofs?
IMHO democrats are in close friendship with Saudi Arabia (and also receiving donations from them during US elections) which is the main sponsor of terrorism in its region.
Democrats were working with terrorists in the past. They are way closer to terrorism rather than democrats.

So you think a democratic president flew his son-in-law to Saudi Arabia to personally negotiate a $110 billion weapons deal... Jared Cushner even called the CEO of Lockheed Martin to personally negotiate a better deal for Saudi Arabia on war-planes!
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/18/world/middleeast/jared-kushner-saudi-arabia-arms-deal-lockheed.html

Trump applied and received a dozen licenses for new businesses from Saudi Arabia while he was running for president, before even being elected
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/306990-trump-appeared-to-register-eight-companies-in-saudi-arabia

Saudi Arabia paid Trump $270,000 to stay in his hotel (paying way more than the going rate = bribe)
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/06/president-trumps-dc-hotel-received-270000-from-saudi-arabia.html


Trump (and the republicans) have been in bed with Saudi Arabia since day fucking one... don't blame democrats for this bullshit

Surely there is nothing good in those points. But leftists usually use it just to blame trump. They always decide to be pacifists (only on words) when they need. It is nothing but lies. For example John McCain (which is considered as a "hero" by many Democrats) has been "fighting terrorism" while being in a close friendship with Saudi Arabia. Maybe it is better to fight terrorism whey you are inside their system?
I'm sure that everything could be way worse if another candidate, which received huge donations from Saudi Arabia during her elections, won the elections.

Hillary Clinton is a wannabe republican... she is well-known as a "war-hawk" and is not typical of democrats... her policies were more right-wing than left-wing... she claimed to be a "centrist", but acted more like a Republican than a Democrat (sellout to all the special interests like war, pharmaceuticals, etc)

It truly amazes me that you can blame Hillary Clinton, who is a nobody these days... and democrats, who aren't in control of anything... rather than the people actually in control of our foreign policy (Trump and the republicans)
35  Other / Politics & Society / Re: I am muslim, is there a problem? on: October 31, 2018, 12:09:13 PM
The leftists lead by Merkel and Macron had decided that the EU should open its borders to refugees...

By this I assume you mean they followed international law... specifically, The Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees, also known as the 1951 Refugee Convention
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_Relating_to_the_Status_of_Refugees

Rights and responsibilities of parties to the Refugee Convention

In the general principle of international law, treaties in force are binding upon the parties to it and must be performed in good faith. Countries that have ratified the Refugee Convention are obliged to protect refugees that are on their territory, in accordance with its terms. There are a number of provisions that States parties to the Refugee Convention must adhere to.

Refugees shall
    abide by the national laws of the contracting states (Article 2)

The contracting states shall
    exempt refugees from reciprocity (Article 7): That means that the granting of a right to a refugee should not be subject to the granting of similar treatment by the refugee's country of nationality, because refugees do not enjoy the protection of their home state.
    be able to take provisional measures against a refugee if needed in the interest of essential national security (Article 9)
    respect a refugee's personal status and the rights that come with it, particularly rights related to marriage (Article 12)
    provide free access to courts for refugees (Article 16)
    provide administrative assistance for refugees (Article 25)
    provide identity papers for refugees (Article 27)
    provide travel documents for refugees (Article 28)
    allow refugees to transfer their assets (Article 30)
    provide the possibility of assimilation and naturalization to refugees (Article 34)
    cooperate with the UNHCR (Article 35) in the exercise of its functions and to help UNHCR supervise the implementation of the provisions in the Convention.
    provide information on any national legislation they may adopt to ensure the application of the Convention (Article 36).
    settle disputes they may have with other contracting states at the International Court of Justice if not otherwise possible (Article 38)

The contracting states shall not
    discriminate against refugees (Article 3)
    take exceptional measures against a refugee solely on account of his or her nationality (Article 8}
    expect refugees to pay taxes and fiscal charges that are different to those of nationals (Article 29)
    impose penalties on refugees who entered illegally in search of asylum if they present themselves without delay (Article 31), which is commonly interpreted to mean that their unlawful entry and presence ought not to be prosecuted at all
    expel refugees (Article 32)
    forcibly return or "refoul" refugees to the country they've fled from (Article 33). It is widely accepted that the prohibition of forcible return is part of customary international law. This means that even States that are not party to the 1951 Refugee Convention must respect the principle of non-refoulement. Therefore, States are obligated under the Convention and under customary international law to respect the principle of non-refoulement. If and when this principle is threatened, UNHCR can respond by intervening with relevant authorities, and if it deems necessary, will inform the public

Refugees shall be treated at least like nationals in relation to
    freedom to practice their religion (Article 4)
    the respect and protection of artistic rights and industrial property (Article 14)
    rationing (Article 20)
    elementary education (Article 22)
    public relief and assistance (Article 23)
    labour legislation and social security (Article 24)

Refugees shall be treated at least like other non-nationals in relation to
    movable and immovable property (Article 13)
    the right of association in unions or other associations (Article 15)
    wage-earning employment (Article 17)
    self-employment (Article 18)
    practice of the liberal professions (Article 19)
    housing (Article 21)
    education higher than elementary (Article 22)
    the right to free movement and free choice of residence within the country (Article 26)
36  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Explosive devices sent to Bill/Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, George Soros, CNN, Source discussion on: October 31, 2018, 11:38:44 AM
If you want to talk about left-wing terrorism vs right-wing terrorism... there is no contest... simply check wikipedia:

The wikipedia article for Left-Wing Terrorism in the united states consists of a single paragraph ending with:

(...) After 1985, following the dismantling of both groups, one source reports there were no confirmed acts of left-wing terrorism by similar groups.

The wikipedia article for Right-Wing Terrorism in the united states consists of 5 paragraphs ending in a list of 38 items since 2003, mostly murders and mass murders:

See also: Domestic terrorism in the United States
(...)
New America's tally shows that since September 11, 2001, incidents of right-wing extremism have caused 86 deaths. Incidents causing death were:
(...)
(check link if you care)

As predicted, you don't care to have a debate, you would rather inject other side topics over and over again. Why? because you know you have no argument, so you have to manufacture an opinion for me for you to defeat. The left has no grounds calling for blame over rhetoric let alone violence based on the past several years of their own behavior.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-30/brief-history-leftist-political-violence-year

If your only link is a website which lets anyone post anonymously... you don't understand what a legitimate source is

The article you linked is written by "Tyler Durden" (the narrator from Fight Club)... it was posted yesterday... probably written by you (can you prove you didn't write it?  Tyler Durden, eh?)

our method: pseudonymous speech

anonymity is a shield from the tyranny of the majority...

the right to remain anonymous may be abused...

On the 27 March 2012, Daniel Ivandjiiski was named as a co-conspirator in a civil complaint regarding complaint for damages and equitable relief
(...)
On the 24 September 2015, the SEC charged a number of senior executives of GEROVA, and a number of major investors in GEROVA with a stock fraud scheme, for which several, including the former company Chairman and President, Gary Hirst, received jail sentences in 2017

Nice source you got there bud... not the slightest bit reputable, though I am not surprised

Got anything from a legitimate news source?  I'd even accept Fox News at this point...
37  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why Does the Far Right Hold a Near-Monopoly on Political Violence? on: October 31, 2018, 11:32:27 AM
Republicans create terrorists
Any proofs?
IMHO democrats are in close friendship with Saudi Arabia (and also receiving donations from them during US elections) which is the main sponsor of terrorism in its region.
Democrats were working with terrorists in the past. They are way closer to terrorism rather than democrats.

So you think a democratic president flew his son-in-law to Saudi Arabia to personally negotiate a $110 billion weapons deal... Jared Cushner even called the CEO of Lockheed Martin to personally negotiate a better deal for Saudi Arabia on war-planes!
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/18/world/middleeast/jared-kushner-saudi-arabia-arms-deal-lockheed.html

Trump applied and received a dozen licenses for new businesses from Saudi Arabia while he was running for president, before even being elected
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/306990-trump-appeared-to-register-eight-companies-in-saudi-arabia

Saudi Arabia paid Trump $270,000 to stay in his hotel (paying way more than the going rate = bribe)
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/06/president-trumps-dc-hotel-received-270000-from-saudi-arabia.html

Trump (and the republicans) have been in bed with Saudi Arabia since day fucking one... don't blame democrats for this bullshit
38  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why Does the Far Right Hold a Near-Monopoly on Political Violence? on: October 31, 2018, 11:21:14 AM
And most extreme left-wingers need war to spread their ideology... So if you don't follow them you used to be counter-revolutionary, later on trotskyist/titoist and nowadays you are 'hateful'...

Left-wingers are opposed to war... where do you get this nonsense?
39  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why Does the Far Right Hold a Near-Monopoly on Political Violence? on: October 31, 2018, 11:13:43 AM
Republicans create terrorists, Democrats create Obamacare!  The far right is full of religitards kk nuff said.

You might want to check out who started the KKK...

You should probably check out what political party the current KKK and most other far right mentally deficient Americans support!

That's a cute delusion. BTW, if anyone was wondering the KKK was created by and heavily supported by Democrats.

Are you the only one who doesn't realize that republicans and democrats switched sides during the 1950's?

When the KKK was founded, it was founded by the people who currently belong to the republican party... the KKK has always been far right-wing

This is no different than republicans trying to claim credit for Abraham Lincoln freeing the slaves... sure he was a republican, but back then the parties were reversed, so he was equivalent to a modern day democrat, not a republican... obviously

Please stop trying to mislead people with your ignorance of history

We have a moral duty to be honest. This duty is especially important when we share ideas that can inform or persuade others.

Intellectual honesty is honesty in the acquisition, analysis, and transmission of ideas. A person is being intellectually honest when he or she, knowing the truth, states that truth. Intellectual honesty pertains to any communication intended to inform or persuade. This includes all forms of scholarship, consequential conversations such as dialogue, debate, (...)
40  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Explosive devices sent to Bill/Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, George Soros, CNN on: October 30, 2018, 02:56:25 PM
If you want to talk about left-wing terrorism vs right-wing terrorism... there is no contest... simply check wikipedia:

The wikipedia article for Left-Wing Terrorism in the united states consists of a single paragraph ending with:

(...) After 1985, following the dismantling of both groups, one source reports there were no confirmed acts of left-wing terrorism by similar groups.

The wikipedia article for Right-Wing Terrorism in the united states consists of 5 paragraphs ending in a list of 38 items since 2003, mostly murders and mass murders:

See also: Domestic terrorism in the United States
(...)
New America's tally shows that since September 11, 2001, incidents of right-wing extremism have caused 86 deaths. Incidents causing death were:
(...)
(check link if you care)
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