While I do have to admit that your conclusion is a POSSIBILITY, I don't think it is probable.   Here's why.

I've been with this, and other PPLNS P2P pools for some time. The gradual ramp up behavior is very common.. It does not surprise me at all.

Now, something does appear to have changed... The results with identical input is different. There was some discussion about pool changes, and, to me at least, it seems something is not right.

I would like to get some explanation from the pool OPs, so I can understand what is going on and to either correct the issue, or reset expectations, or make an informed decision and get out of the pool myself.

That brings up my final point... You. You appear to be paranoid. (It still is called paranoia even when they ARE watching you for real, right . My suggestion would be that you take your own advice and move to a different pool just to be safe.   There are only a few options then:

1). You are right, and the move made your results better, safer, more predictable.
2). You are wrong, and you moved without any reason.   No real loss there, you just tried something new.



So, pool OPs, any comment or explanation you can share?

I really can't follow the craziness above.

Is there a simple explanation for the average payout dropping so far?  It looks to be about 30% of what I was seeing the other... and it appears to be declining.

Thanks.

Why?

I knew I liked you for a reason!

Thanks.

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Can't happen if you don't ask, right?

I think you misunderstand my point... maybe.   Lemme try again.

I completely understand that time to find a block is effectively random. You don't know when they are going to come.

BUT you can pretty well get an idea of an expected time to find given a hashrate - @100Mh/s you can assume 12hrs for LTC (Not sure if that is entirely accurate, but lets just assume for now).    If we never get to stay on LTC for more than 30minutes, then there is a very small chance that we would find a block.  Sure, we may find one in 10 minutes, but the average would be 6hrs.

I think his point, and my "good point" comment was based on that fact.  If we can assume we find other alt-coins (on average) much faster, then the likelihood of finding one before we switch to a new coin is higher than with LTC.  We would seem to be better off handling faster block coins than long block coins.

Does that explain my comment better?

Good point.

I've been playing with the site for some time, and lending all my my hashpower at times (10Mh/s).  How far can I push your + notation?

for example, for a 2.6Mh/s rig... can/should I use +0.003 ?

Why not just set all my boxes to +.1 ?

I consider taking the first 1Million coins for yourself and then preparing for a pump-and-dump a scam.

So, if you mined them... you.

Time to label this as a scam, and the Dev/OP as scammers?

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[Request] VLC OP, VLC Dev - Ask You Anything

I think that you have a very interested group here that deserve your comment.

I have a bunch of questions I would like to ask, and if I get good, reasonable, and honest answers, I will help you bring this currency out of the stall it appears to be entering.

This is my one, and only request, for this.

So I read up on this a bit. Seems rather fishy.

Pleas correct me if I'm wring here:

- there is a desire to make this coin 'fair' by forcing the first blocks to 0 coins, and gradually increasing them to normal value. Effectively saying that the ultra-low difficulties don't get tooooooo rewarded.

- the Dev, here knows as "the cheat" for simplicity sake since I don't  want to assign blame to a person till we understand more details and facts, wrote in a line so that they (or someone they designate) gets 1M coin for breaking one block.

- the coin won't be picked up until this gets resolved.

Right?

If this is the case, then the person that wrote that line is behaving in a completely untrustworthy manner and needs to remedy this immediately.  Seems incredibly greedy and short sighted.

How?

- spread it around to the finders of the previous blocks. You know o they are, and that would be the most fair. (Now that does, likely, include the cheat, but those would have been legitimately earned blocks)

Why?
Cause I'm done until someone comes clean and makes right. I have spent a lot of time on VLC and will not go any further until things get corrected.

Image is everything with Alt-coins, and this is not good at all. A destroyed reputation of trust is almost impossible to fix, you only get one shot.

Purely for scientific analysis, let me set up my rigs to jump on to some pure alt-coins... I'll do some measurement on stales and rejects

I'll set them up for all of these, but while I'm doing that, if you would put them in the order you'd like to see data...

Litecoin (LTC)
Terracoin (TRC)
FeatherCoin (FTC)
Mincoin (MNC)
WorldCoin (WDC)
DigitalCoin (DGC)
NovaCoin (NVC)
LuckyCoin (LKY)
Argentum (ARG)
PhenixCoin (PXC)
MegaCoin (MEC)
BottleCaps (CAP)

could you please elaborate further?

So, I love the concept of this site... just makes sense to me.  So, first, thanks for putting it together.

The concern I  have is that I (think I ) see a lot of wasted work.

Here is my thought process... please poke holes in it, or provide me with any thoughts as to how to improve.
If I look at the available stats, this is what I see as far as reject rate (or what I see as my measure of wasted work).

Total :
  Rejected : 9.9452
  Accepted :  562.2977
  Reject Rate : 1.76%

#1 spot:
  Rejected : 0.5779
  Accepted : 83.2802
  Reject Rate : 0.69%

#2 spot:   
  Rejected : 0.4847
  Accepted : 28.0646
  Reject Rate : 0.17%

#3 spot:
  Rejected : 0.7550
  Accepted : 24.1685
  Reject Rate : 3.1%

Me, specifically :
  Rejected : 0.2983
  Accepted :  8.7335   
  Reject Rate:  3.4%

5x the reject rate of spot #1
20x the reject rate of spot #2
About the same of spot #3
and 2x the total reject rate.

I feel like I'm doing something wrong.  I'm not the heaviest hitter here by any stretch, but I am in the Top-10 it appears. 
Why such a high reject rate?

First thing I do with other pools is check my latency and distance to the pool servers.  Things seem fine in that area.
Next thing I would do is to evaluate difficulty - but I don't have that ability here.

So, I welcome any comments/feedback/advice.

My goal would be 0% reject rate - but I know that is not possible.  Clearly <1% is... so what can I do to achieve that?

Thanks.

Any more visibility into the listing of VLC on cryptsy?

This "list"... can we see it where it stands?

Thanks for the welcome.

I'm set when these hit $1/coin.

Been dabbling in Alt-Coins for the past few weeks...  gave VLC a full 14 days,  going to give IFC a run.  I mean, I watch Independent Film Channel a LOT!

Swung 10Mh over your way for a while.

Soooo... Cryptsy?

Where are the coins on Cryptsy?