If I were you, I will refuse it.
If they want to invest in crypto, they must be ready to choose crypto coins and they must do it themselves. Always remind them that investing in crypto is high risk and unpredictable, there is no guarantee for profits. That's why do it with our own research and with our own efforts. So, if something bad happens to the crypto assets in the future, we don't blame others if we do it ourselves. It is different if you are asked by other people to invest their money, you are responsible for their money if you failed to get profits in the future. It is simply too risky for you, dude.

Bitcoin drops below $15k isn't impossible, especially when many investors lose their trust in exchanges and crypto coins after the cases of Luna and FTX. If we have more cases on crypto exchanges or if there is another big crypto project that turns bankrupt, I assume Bitcoin price is possible to fall below $15k. You may think Bitcoin can't drop below $15k based on analyzing the Bitcoin price chart. However, the issue or news seems to have a bigger role in determining the Bitcoin price lately.

Why 2 goals isn't enough? I think 2 goals is enough, not too few.
As long as they can get 3 points, it is enough. They can score more goals in the next matches, the first match is always hard to get the maximum result. Richarlison and Vinicius already showed us how good the quality of Brazil team is, they deserve to be one of the favorite teams to win this competition. With many top players in Brazil team, no doubt they can maintain their position as the leader of group G.

Yep, it is surprising to see Argentina and Germany were beaten and got no points in the first match.
However, it is still the first match, we can't conclude they are weak and may be eliminated in the group stage. I'm sure both Argentina and Germany will struggle to get points in the next match. They may feel nervous in the first match.  

They are professional players, they must know how to keep their mentality and physical health during the league break. I only feel afraid about the transfer window in January, it is a big challenge for Napoli to keep their players. It will be a big problem if some key players decide to move to other clubs because of an offer of big money. I know Napoli can get the replacement, but the new players sometimes need much time to play at their best level. This is very possible to influence their performance. I am worried that Napoli can't consistently get full points if there is a change in their key players.

People who have a lot of experiences in the previous bearish seasons, should be confident about crypto future and never lose faith to hold their coins for the long term. You must be an experienced holder, so you are confident with your crypto assets. However, not every holder has enough experience and knowledge like you, dude. The beginners must feel afraid since they still have weak bases (no experience or less knowledge), they are probably not confident or doubtful about crypto future. With the current situation, they likely won't trust the possibility of BTC reaching $100k in 2023, in 2024, or even in 2025. Because of too many rumors Bitcoin to drop below $15k, they may think it is the end of crypto world.

People make the prediction based on the previous bullrun seasons. Usually, Bitcoin reached its new ATH after 1 year of BTC halving. Since the upcoming BTC halving is in 2024, ideally the new ATH of BTC is in 2025. But is surely only a prediction, never has an accuracy of 100%. It is very possible to happen faster or longer.

I don't think it is mandatory, but it is good if they want to show proof.
I assume they will explain it if you ask the team. 

Anyway, don't forget that they didn't force us to gamble on their sites, it is our own intention. So, before we decide to gamble on a certain gambling site, we ideally already checked everything related to the safety to gamble there, including the financial management of the gambling site (including their fund reserve). If everything seems secure enough, you can gamble there. But if it looks unsafety, just leave it and choose another gambling site.

Those casinos don't invest in crypto coins, so ideally they convert crypto coins to stable coins or fiats regularly. The team members of the casinos must also know well about crypto, probably they are the people who have a lot of experience in crypto industry. They won't be brave to utilize crypto coins in their casinos if they don't know well crypto coins. So, I'm sure they won't experience a decrease in their fund reserve during the bearish period.

It may be possible to replace paper money but it is impossible to live without physical money (cash & coins). The idea of turning everything to digital isn't realistic, there should be certain matters that can't be changed, including the need for physical money. Not every area/location can be reached by the internet, there is a limitation to using digital money. Also, not everyone prefers to use digital money for any transactions in daily life. In some cases, using digital money isn't as effective as physical money (ex: when you buy goods in traditional markets). Digital money requires the internet, the transaction sometimes takes time. These reasons make me doubt if CBDCs can replace paper money. I assume it is created as a complement to the needs of varied types of money in the current and future eras.

Yep, it is official already. Man United terminated Ronaldo's contract since Ten Hag is no longer interested to keep Ronaldo on Man United squad. I think it is a wise decision, Ronaldo can get a proper club for him now, while Ten Hag can focus on his players without the pressure of Ronaldo's big name on the club. Ten Hag is likely to build Man United squad with a new generation.

- https://www.si.com/soccer/manchesterunited/news/official-cristiano-ronaldo-leaves-manchester-united-following-contract-termination
- https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/breaking-cristiano-ronaldo-man-utd-28558713

Sporting is one of the possible clubs for his destination. But I hear a rumor that the club isn't interested to sign him.
Recently, there was a rumor that Bayern Munchen wants to sign Ronaldo because they need a top CF like Ronaldo. It makes sense, Bayern Munchen needs a new striker to strengthen their attacking line. They cannot rely on Muller only.

Semua koin crypto itu beresiko, tidak ada yang garansi aman. Cuman ada yang resikonya relatif rendah, ada yang resikonya tinggi. BTC bisa kita katakan mewakili koin crypto dengan resiko relatif rendah (low risk), sedang koin micin masuk ke kelompok koin dengan resiko tinggi (high risk). Dua-dua nya sama-sama punya peluang untuk menghasilkan profit besar, hanya saja koin micin mungkin bisa up ratusan kali jika koin tersebut bisa hype. Dan hype ini tidak tergantung pada periode bearish atau bullish, bisa kapan saja. Sedangkan koin seperti Bitcoin butuh waktu, up-down signifikannya cukup tergantung pada trend bearish atau bullish. Tapi yang jelas, Bitcoin terbukti bisa survive, sedangkan koin micin bisa menghilang dari peredaran kapan pun (terutama yang fundamentalnya lemah).

Diversifikasi aset memang opsi yang bagus untuk meningkatkan peluang profit dan mencegah potensi loss semua dana dalam 1 koin. Hanya saja diversifikasi bukan berarti perlu punya berbagai koin, cukup dengan beberapa koin yang dirasa paling potensial. Kalau kebanyakan, sering tidak terpantau update terkait koinnya. Al hasil, sering ketinggalan momen take profitnya (pump). BTW kalau gak kepengen asetnya cuman diam, beberapa koinnya ditradingkan aja Om.

How about DEX? Do you also never trust this type of exchange?
By the way, since you never trust an exchange, does it mean you never use the exchanges to trade your coins? Or do you only never trust to keep your coins there? I think you need to explain this matter in more detail. Newbies/beginners probably don't get your point.

If the reason is the possibility of price huge declines such as Luna and FTX, it can happen at any time. 
Even if you hold the coins for a short-term goal, it doesn't mean you can avoid the risk of freefall price possibility.
IMO, once you distrust other coins, simply don't hold them both for the long-term and the short-term goals.

Normally? Do you mean it is their habit to lose points in every first match in the world cup? 
I don't think it is something normal or acceptable thing for a candidate winner like Argentina. Saudi Arabia is a small team, they have no top players. Argentina controls the match, they won 70% ball possession during the match. They made 15 shots attempt, while Saudi Arabia only made 3 shots attempts. This is something very disappointing to see how poor shot accuracy of Argentina attackers, especially when Lionel Messi, Lautaro Martinez, and Di Maria played together.

This is an expected result, France should be the favorite team to win. Moreover, since France becomes one of the winning candidates in this competition, people must expect big scores. Well, they show us that they have the power to win the World Cup trophy.

There is still much bad news spreading now. Some investors did panic selling, others sold their coins to dump the price more. This situation always triggers a further decline in crypto prices, we shouldn't be surprised if we see another dump in the future. During the series of declines, it is a good time to add more coins to our portfolio. However, don't buy at once, it is better to buy gradually.

I am not surprised if many people suspect Arsenal will begin to lose points, even Arsène Wenger doubts that Arsenal can maintain its position on the top table.   It is very unfortunate for Arsenal fans, but they don't need to be afraid because it is only a personal assumption. Those people who don't trust Arsenal to win EPL this season, just focus on considering the players' popularity on Arsenal squad. They don't know that the popularity or the big name of players isn't the ultimate factor to win the competition. As long as Arsenal can play in good teamwork and they play confidently in every match, they have a big opportunity to be the winner, especially since they have 5 points difference with Man City now. Regarding the injury problem, Arsenal must be aware about this. It won't be a problem, they know how to handle it.

You don't join crypto investment in a bad year, instead it is the right time to buy coins for investment. Since all crypto coins have decreased their prices very significantly, it is your advantage to buy many coins as cheaply as possible. If you are a real investor, you should realize this opportunity and you must don't care about the current drop in your portfolio. Commonly, people will hold for around 3-4 years, they target to sell in the next bullrun (after BTC halving). So, if you have bought enough coins, you can keep them in your private wallets and forget them for around 3 years.

Ini yang dimaksud thread EPL 2022/2023?
Saya kurang paham apakah thread ini diskusinya lebih serius atau tidak, cuman yang pasti thread ini dimoderasi dengan baik oleh JollyGood. Sepemahaman saya, JollyGood membuat thread EPL serupa dengan thread EPL nya Trofo atas dasar moderasi dan tujuan untuk mengurangi spam post. Walaupun menurut saya ini tidak diperlukan karena bikin rancuh dan spam pun tidak bakal berkurang karena thread EPL nya Trofo pun tetap aktif (tidak dilock).

Debat itu biasa, dinikmati saja. Walupun memang sedikit risih jika arah debatnya mulai keluar jalur dan mengarah ke ranah pribadi. Saran saya, jika debat mulai ke luar jalur, tinggalkan saja karena tidak akan ada akhirnya. Terutama jika berhadapan dengan fans fanatik, mereka tidak akan melihat fakta dan buta akan kelemahan tim yang didukungnya. 

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*BTW masalah JollyGood sebaiknya diakhiri sampai sini saja. Lama-lama mulai OOT. 

Yep. Benzema is 34 years old, it makes sense if he starts to get injured more often. That's why Ancelotti needs to sign a new striker for Real Madrid. Ancelotti no longer can rely on Benzema's performance to win La Liga title or UCL title, Benzema often had injury problems this season. Ancelotti seems to plan signing a new top striker in January, I heard a rumor that Real Madrid will try again to negotiate with PSG for Mbappe. And they are also rumored interested to sign Victor Osimhen from Napoli.

Ideally, the new striker isn't intended to remove Benzema from Real Madrid squad in the near future. A new striker will add more options for a CF position, so Ancelotti won't have a problem if Benzema is injured. Also, Ancelotti is possible to use 2 CF on the lineup if there is another strong striker. It will give some alternatives on the lineups, not change the tactic/strategy.

Of course, he will be a great player for Argentina and Man United in the future since he is a young and talented winger. But he is still too young to play with Argentina national team and Argentina has already enough wingers now. I see no problems although he won't play with Argentina national team now, he will have the time to join there in the future.

There will be many big teams interested to sign him. However, Man United is likely to extend his contract because he is a very potential player for Man United future.

Media purpose is always to attract people with something interesting. They apply varied ways, including predicting a very convincing trend. That's why it wasn't surprising if there were many media who claimed BTC skyrocketed to $100k in the previous bullrun season. In reality, Bitcoin never reached $100k, never passed $90k, or not even close to the predicted prices. This is a warning for everyone to not trust the media 100%, always do our own research to predict the next trend or next crypto prices.

By the way, lately we must hear that some media claimed Bitcoin price may drop to $10k or even lower than $10k. It is not so different from the same FUDs in 2021, the media try to attract people with these FUDs. Also, the whales may be the factor behind the FUDs spreading by the media. They may have the intention to influence BTC holders to do panic selling. So, they can buy as many as Bitcoin and altcoins at very cheap prices.

- https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-07-10/bitcoin-faces-another-50-drop-wall-street-says-mliv-pulse
- https://www.kitco.com/news/2022-08-11/Bitcoin-to-fall-to-below-10k-won-t-see-new-highs-again-Peter-Schiff.html

*Just ignore them, they are only made to make us feel worried. 

Kalau yang saya pahami, Om @dewo_sat ini mau membuat lapak di forum bitcointalk ini ya.

Maka yang perlu diketahui:
1. Apakah forum ini masuk ke teritori (wilayah) hukum Indonesia?
2. Apakah tindakan yang akan dilakukan adalah tindakan pidana yang bisa dikenai asas Nasional?

1. Sudah jelas bahwa lapak di forum ini tidak masuk ke teritori (wilayah) hukum undang-undang Indonesia atau regulasi yang berlaku di negara kita (asas teritorialitas). Forum ini tidak teregistrasi berasal dari Indonesia atau dibuat oleh orang Indonesia.

2. Berdasarkan dari yang saya baca di sini, hukum atau undang-undang negara kita memang bisa menjangkau setiap warga negara di mana pun dia berada (asas nasional) untuk kasus tertentu (Pasal 5 KUHP). Misalnya jika seorang WNI melakukan tindakan pidana di forum ini, anggap saja melakukan penipuan. Maka ia bisa dikenai hukuman berdasarkan asas Nasional dan asas Universalitas. Karena aturan hukum kita dan forum sama-sama memandang "penipuan" sebagai sebuah tindakan pidana. Atau misalnya melakukan aktivitas di forum ini yang mengarah ke pada hal-hal yang merugikan negara. Ini juga bisa dikenai asas nasional karena termasuk kasus yang disebutkan di Pasal 5 KUHP.

Sedangkan yang akan Om @dewo_sat lakukan adalah membuat lapak. Membuat lapak bukan sebuah tindakan pidana dan menggunakan alat transaksi selain Rupiah bukan kasus khusus yang bisa dikenai asas Nasional yang disebutkan di Pasal 5 KUHP. Selain itu, forum memang memperbolehkan setiap usernya untuk membuat lapak dan menggunakan crypto sebagai alat transaksi merupakan hal yang lumrah di sini. Jadi tidak ada tindakan pidana dalam hal ini, tidak ada juga tindakan merugikan orang lain. Maka tidak ada yang perlu dikhawatirkan.

Catatan:
Mengenai UU No 7 tahun 2011 dan aturan penggunaan Rupiah sebagai satu-satunya alat transaksi yang sah, ini hanya berlaku di negara kita saja. Aturan ini tidak dapat diterapkan di forum bitcointalk karena forum ini bersifat global dan di luar teritori wilayah Indonesia.

CMIIW

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* https://bizlaw.co.id/keberlakuan-hukum-pidana-nasional-terhada-wni-di-luar-negeri/
* https://indonesiare.co.id/id/article/melakukan-tindak-pidana-di-negara-lain