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2041  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How is Bitcoin living up to Satoshi's original vision? on: January 29, 2020, 11:24:32 PM
OK, I'm going to prepare myself for the influx of hate here but can we please attempt to have a mature discussion about this.

How in the hell can people claim Bitcoin is still in line with Satoshi's original vision?

How can we even call Bitcoin a crypto CURRENCY, it's really not a CURRENCY anymore and I'll explain why.

I sold my Bitcoin off a long while ago, mainly for the reasons I've given above, I didn't believe that Bitcoin was still in line with what Satoshi originally envisioned, I'm also sceptical about it's long term success.

I've just tried to send £1 worth of BTC to my other wallet, the fee was 25p that's literally 25% in fees.

Sure, lower the fee I hear you say but if I do, I'm going to be waiting an extremely long time for confirmations and for my transaction to go through.

So you lost a fortune by selling something that became even more valuable later. I see where your grudge is coming from...

TODAY i made a small transaction to an exchange to use fiat, as always, i used 1 sat/B. It took ONE HOUR to get confirmed.

How do you even DARE to say this is "extremely long time"? Do you think we are stupid or what? Give me a break. It was about 144 satoshis for a single hour, have you ever done bank wire transfers? Probably not, or else you are a liar.

Say what you want but Bitcoin is working as intended, and that is the reason it keeps growing in value, albeit slower and slower, exactly as designed, but still preserves its purchasing power after a decade. What you want in a coin is not "Satoshi's vision", it is YOUR vision. Go ahead, copy Bitcoin's code and execute it again, you then have your own blockchain Go make your altcoin, and hope you don't end up like BTG...
2042  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: So...Is Bitcoin the ultimate coin that does not need more development? on: January 29, 2020, 11:08:33 PM
halving will occur this year, and that is one proof that bitcoin is still being developed, and the high price can also be proof. however, technology will always be improved, especially on the internet.
in the case of altcoin which exceeds bitcoin, you can expect it, and in the future, there will be coins like that, but for now, not a single coin has approached or can replace bitcoin.

This is not true, the halvings have occurred exactly when they were expected to occur and this hasn't changed since the beginning. The high price also means nothing, since it just means that current bitcoin is fine as it is.

No, if you want "proof" go take a look at bitcoin's code and the few changes it has gotten over the years. The "bitcoin core" developers have been maintaining the code for node and wallet etc which is something you can see at the very top "News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 0.19.0.1" etc.
2043  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How I Crypto on: January 29, 2020, 09:31:58 PM
#HowICrypto

Have fun with it and hashtag #HowIcrypto where you use social media.

I use cryptocurrency every single day, I mostly use a middleman like Bitpay to process all of my transactions. So even though I might not be buying bread with USD, I used my Bitcoin to make the purchase. This makes it nice for me since I run my business in the crypto space, I can get paid from someone in China instantly and buy food at the store within 5 minutes. I love that about bitcoin, what about you?
The money that I am spending in my daily needs comes from here but I cannot say that I am using bitcoins daily because I am converting my bitcoins into fiat every sunday as my budget for the whole so I cannot say that I am using bitcoin in my daily life. Even if how much do I love to use bitcoin in my daily lives but still I cant because here in my country cryptocurrencies are not legal.

I'm also earning my living thru the work online paid directly to my bitcoin wallet (no tokens and no online wallets, yuck). But i do not exchange it for fiat. The fiat in my country is the worst of the planet, when you live in hyperinflation (and access to foreign currencies is restricted) you do not want to keep any of that money (it loses a lot of value every day), but you still need it to purchase things to live.

So, only when the time comes to buy something, and for the approximate amount needed you exchange just that and leave the rest in the wallet as bitcoin savings. So its like a slower version of a payment processor, however the fees are much lower too. Oh the exchanged money in fiat is used electronically too, usually by debit card. Banknotes are very hard to come by, and when they do their purchasing power is minuscule anyway. So think of it like using bitcoin to fill your prepaid card in fiat. Except you get to choose who do you sell it to and for how much (not the payment processor).

The money that comes from, i don't know, people losing their gambling bets? is used to buy food and pay bills here.
2044  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Would a Crypto Based Economy Make Things Safer? on: January 29, 2020, 09:05:24 PM

Would this create a more safer community? would this cause people not to resort to crime? substance abuse? etc?

Your thoughts why or why not?
I think yes. The use of crypto currencies that are digital can reduce the risk of criminal activity. Because it is digital, the public can reduce criminal activities such as fiat theft.

Even though the use of crypto is also not spared from hacking activities, but this hacking activity is usually very rare.

Cashless criminal activity is not done like old fashioned physical theft, but for example by kidnapping. Here they call it express kidnapping. They aim to release you quickly. This was done here before hyperinflation, usually the victims were forced to empty their atm accounts. This is no longer possible because physical money lost its value and ATMs are 99% of the time empty anyway.

The criminals look at you, and check your lifestyle. Here simply owning a good enough car would make them tail you, see where you live etc. By knowing your daily routine they pick the best moment for the attack.

This is why it is so important to not look wealthy, even if you are. In the nice countries this might not be much of an issue, but it is in others. Very important when you travel. The cheapest looking Chinese smartphone is always better than an old iphone, it might even save your life.

So in short it simply changes their modus operandi. Some activities won't be feasible, but they will find new ways as long as the place is bad. Maybe its a little worse for crime, since it can leave more traces, but here are also smart crooks online etc.

The (bad) habits or activities themselves are not changed by the money itself. You can probably make an experiment leaving 1oz of gold or something of equivalent value (ie 1500 USD) and you will see all sort of people reacting the same. Maybe its a good idea for a hidden camera show...
2045  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: My funds have been stolen! on: January 29, 2020, 06:35:04 PM
You are seriously not saying that a fully updated windows machine is naturally compromised. Windows machines (and servers) run tons of extremely sensitive data that is constantly under target and attack. This is not an operating systems issue this is a failure of OP who probably downloaded a fake wallet or most likely is just lying to get pitty donation funds.

Well i have seen it before, so that might be so. Even having the system secured and updated is not safe enough. Airgap might help your company server, but you are taking a giant risk. There are zero day exploits, there are "private" exploits now known by few discoverers but kept secret until needed. Usually those are not seen for widespread attacks, but can for targeted attacks. OP might have drawn someone's attention.

This is the fundamental problem of "security by obscurity". By hiding the code, is not like exploits don't exist, they do. And worst of it is they remain hidden for much longer than with open source.

It might be something simple like you say, but its always a good moment to call everyone's attention. Do not fool yourself thinking a well maintained Windows is ever good enough, it isn't. The thing didn't earn its bad fame for free. A better OS also needs maintaining, but its far easier to keep those secure than Windows ever will and this is a rock solid fact backed by decades of experience. Sure, you can make a living maintaining those (maybe thanks for being what it is), but that doesn't mean its any good. Internet is not run by Windows servers, they remain a minority for this very reason.
2046  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: John McAfee called BITCOIN as a Shitcoin! on: January 29, 2020, 06:19:44 PM
John McAfee, who once anticipated that bitcoin would reach $1 million before the current year's over, has been bashing the main digital money. As per McAfee, bitcoin is a shitcoin.
Based on the progression of his tweets, John bashed bitcoin as he tweeted " “Bitcoin – Old, clunky, no security, no smart contracts, no Dapps – is the true shitcoin.” Although John compliments altcoin and said that we all realize that the fate of crypto rests with the altcoins.

What an idiot. I guess we can guess who is paying him to make those lies. The nerve to say Bitcoin has no security, heh. I hope he moves all his fortune to the altcoin foundation or group that is probably paying him to make those lies, but knowing him, he probably doesn't even own any crypto anyway.

It seems you can pay him to make it say literally anything. It is a mystery why people keep paying attention to him.
2047  Other / Off-topic / Re: Glasses with filters. on: January 29, 2020, 05:56:32 PM
Just published a new post on my blog for a cool business idea someone from here could pursue.

What do you think about it?



What is with the silly name? This clearly sounds like an Augmented Reality app, not unlike Pokemon Go and the like running in a Google Glass like device (Smartglass?)

AR has been coming regardless, this is NOT your idea at all. Event he app that translate real life text when pointed with a smartphone is such an example.

The ugly side is that they could also inject ads into your real life experience. And of course all your location data are belong to them... Just like smartphones, we will have to wait for Free and Open Source OS alternatives that would work on the device.


Strangely enough, the Free and Open Source camera app called "Cheese" does the filters thing... Pretty sure some other smartphone camera apps can as well.
2048  Other / Off-topic / Re: Linux VS Windows on: January 29, 2020, 05:29:15 PM
Having been a Windows user from the very beginning, my answer's gonna be bias; I'd prefer Windows anytime.

One can shun it for being the most infection-prone OS due to popularity but we get to enjoy those awesome apps? Support is strong and there are over 100 ways to tweak Windows to our liking. Sure, Linux does have its own exclusive apps too, but in terms of development, it's still miles behind.

While I have a MBA, Windows will always be number one in my books.

Its not due to popularity, its due to mis-design and conflicting interests within Microsoft. You would need to study their history to understand it. For every way you could "tweak windows", there is an infinite number of ways to tweak Linux. With the source code, anything is possible. Without it, you are always limited.

Yes Windows is miles behind in development, simple reason is that its just a company, with people, departments, planning and goals coming and going. A group develops one thing (like the kernel) another develops the UI, then 10 years later the people in charge of those is completely different and even those in charge are assigned to something different and or additional. Its not unlike a government, in a way. Of course i know you meant the opposite, but you are seriously wrong, you just don't know any better. Linux is community maintained, its literally comparing Bitcoin to the Hong Kong Dollar (a fiat from private banks).

You think the UI changes and later reversing changes was why? Classic UI, 9x UI, "Fisher Price" (XP) ui, blackish (7 ui), metro modern, later undone, later reintroduces in 10 with a twist? Microsoft literally alienated their own user base with each change. It took Microsoft until windows 10 to finally discover the concept of virtual desktops, introduced in the Amiga in the 80ies. Linux different UIs had them since the 90ies. Examples like that are all over the place, but i would write a book here if you get me started.

You Prefer Windows anytime? Since the very beginning? I doubt you ever used Windows 1.0, 2.0 or even 3.0. Incidentally i have a Microsoft Windows 3.0 box here, its blue and white. I used PCs before windows, and i clearly remember people preferring msdos apps and games. Windows was "interesting", but bloated and in the way, and buggy, so buggy. Often there was some killer app they would launch Windows for, but as soon as they were finished, they would close it. That is from the days Windows was just another "msdos" program to run and close afterwards like the rest.

Many Windows releases were seen as a step backwards, they added some "features" (often unwanted), new bugs, and much higher requirements. Sounds familiar? This hasn't changed since the 90ies. Of course you are biased since you probably didn't use computers before Windows and couldn't know better. You didn't know computers didn't suck, or that things crashing or getting infected or slow down into a crawl wasn't normal. Ever heard of the 3 Rs of Microsoft? Retry, Reboot, Reinstall...

Did you know IBM and Microsoft planned a great OS only to be ruined later by Microsoft while stabbing a knife in the back to their partner? Its descendant is what you use today and its nothing like the original, which was meant to be portable, robust and secure but Microsoft had a different agenda.

The current Windows is just a vehicle for the current Microsoft attempt at the data mining business. Shadowing Google, they wanted to get in the same business since their older model has clear signs of obsolescence. They did try smartphones and other "google things", but failed miserably. Microsoft was always about purchasing something from others and selling it as their own. but alas Gates and Ballmer are gone, not unlike Job and Woz from Apple (with similar results). Microsoft 10 is literally bait for people to give them their data, it was "given free to existing windows users" for a reason. Of course there is a plethora of third party software that does the very same, starting from Google Chrome. Microsoft just wanted IN, but acted too late as usual, and for example lost the smartphone segment which eclipsed their model entirely.

Running windows today after learning these things, is tantamount of masochism. Its like installing a sign in front of your house "Steal me please" (or similar "hurt me because i like it" phrase).

"The pay to get certified" thing exists in Linux as well, the likes of Red Hat will happily take your money so you can have some paper to flash employers with so that is irrelevant.

Of course i don't really just mean Linux, there are plenty of Free and Open Source projects that fit perfectly well, i just mention Linux to remain in topic with the OP, but OSes like the BSDs are perfectly valid alternatives. And you could say the same about Windows, all the proprietary junk out there, even Apple's, or Android (Both may use a free and open source kernel, but its surrounded by blobs. I wouldn't be surprised Microsoft joins them, as some rumors say).
2049  Other / Off-topic / Re: Linux VS Windows on: January 29, 2020, 03:43:34 PM
I have been a Linux user for the past 16 years and i just move to windows because i need to use some software for my Job.

I am a bit paranoid about windows and trojans, i don't like how windows deal with the users, it makes me feel like i'm idiot each time the system ask me if i really want to do that.

So, let's talk about this, what OS you use, and why it's better for you?

Well 16 years is a good run. I wonder if you:

Tried running your specific job software under wine, or under a virtualbox using the smallest possible windows install?

If you limit the windows usage to just that software, it probably helps a bit down. Be very careful what you add to that windows, for example the recent article about Avast selling user browser's history etc.

Like any virtual machine, at the very least any possible damage could be contained to it (when there is no additional exploit to the VM). Ideally no windows would be best but you already know that.

If your job software does not need internet, that also helps. Configure things in a way that windows never connects outside.

Alternative is to use a separate physical computer for windows, and in that case it should also be restricted to the bare minimum.
2050  Other / Off-topic / Re: How much money do you think you need, to fully retire and never have to workagai on: January 28, 2020, 12:57:48 PM
How much money do you think you need, to fully retire and never have to work again and why ?

About 1 BTC would do for me lol, but that is only because of the "magic" of hyperinflation. Should this garbage economy ever recovers (probably only after the government "somehow" collapses) i guess about 10 BTC would do, of course no luxuries, simply basic needs which is how the vast majority survives here anyway.

I'm guessing most people living in rich countries would need at least 100 BTC.
2051  Other / Off-topic / Re: Fuck! I may have cancer on: January 28, 2020, 12:41:01 PM
Any update?Huh Are you still alive??? Do you have cancer or what??!

Bruh...

It's a distant memory now, That was 6 years ago! I'm completely okay now and no, it wasn't cancer. It was really painful and scary though. If I had cancer I'd probably have donated all my bitcoin and killed myself rather than going bankrupt, or flew over to Greece or driven up into Canada.

This is true for OP (back in 2013) but the thing is that now (in 2020) it is Phinnaeus Gage which is why i suggested another thread to avoid confusion.
2052  Other / Off-topic / Re: What Book are you currently reading? on: January 28, 2020, 05:03:36 AM
The Catholic Demonologist Handbook by Kenneth G Deel
A comprehensive guidebook to understanding and solving ghost and demonic hauntings.

You never know when you need to perform an exorcism... Or, wouldn't you rather call a professional?



If you are into economy, read Mises and the Austrian economists. Lots of free books to read and download online here: https://mises.org/books-library/

From Mises Human Action is recommended.

Another one: The Causes of the Economic Crisis, and Other Essays Before and After the Great Depression

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This book refutes the socialists and Keynesian, as well as anyone who believes that the printing press can provide a way out of trouble. Mises shows who was responsible for driving the world into economic calamity. It was the inevitable effects of the government's monopoly over money and banking.
2053  Economy / Speculation / Re: It's over $9000! on: January 28, 2020, 03:53:47 AM
Last night the value was $8700 when I checked it and after I the value today it's already $9100 and Im happy again of what bitcoin again we have 3 days left to achieve the $10,000 and I'm very excited to aee again the 5 digits value for this coin.

I hope it will not go down again lower $9000 or become $8000 because it's almost 2 months that the value stock to thag value I think and that is enough and it's time to move on to the price ans we need to grow the value more.

The slower it climbs, the better. This probably means more fluctuations, its a free market after all. But in the long run (zoom out) as long as the trend keeps, it will be fine. This might be the one, usually after Chinese new year a bit of an uptrend comes.
2054  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Let's talk about bitcoin's image on: January 28, 2020, 03:45:02 AM
Banks and corporations want to implement blockchain technology as long as this blockchain technology remains their own property. No corporation or bank has any interest into creating something open-source,being transparent and available for free.It's all about control.Adopting real blockchain technology means that the corporation has to let go of the control(in one form or another).
This corporate mindset will never change.There's nothing we can do about it.

And this doesn't matter for Bitcoin. Let them be. Blockchain conferences? Who cares, its their problem. How could this possibly be undermining Bitcoin? You think people are stupid enough to drop their bitcoins and run to a corporate/bank/gov blockchain, simply because it uses "blockchain"? Hey, world's worst most centralized crypto uses blockchain, so what? The market isn't stupid to fall for it.

They could even open source their projects, its the data itself that matters. In fact they would be wise to do so, so the community could catch bugs, but then again why would the community help them, whats in for others? Some of the altcoins are doing this already don't they? Isn't Ripple offered to banks? Just look at how centralized it is, pure garbage. But i guess they don't care as long as the wire transfer completes. Unless one day something nasty happens and they lose money, who knows... Its a private club.
2055  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The biggest challenge facing Bitcoin (and all cryptocurrency) this year on: January 27, 2020, 05:55:22 PM
A crucial year ahead for cryptocurrencies, from the Economist - 27 Jan 2020[/url]

This is a good article from the Economist - each of you should read it.

What concerns me though, is that as we stand on the edge of global acceptance of cryptocurrencies we risk the definition of cryptocurrency being violated by the corporate or government sponsorship needed to drive that global acceptance.

This article highlights, Libra, Facebook's cryptocurrency. To their credit, The Economist is referring to it as a "digital currency"...which is helpful, but i fear the public will forever confuse the difference. Lybra isn't a decentralized currency built on the blockchain. It's an investment vehicle, backed by a "basket of other currencies" traded over the blockchain (maybe?) but more specifically traded over the US stock markets.

I will always be a huge fan of evolution and innovation in the crypto space, i just want to make sure that these innovations don't cast a shadow within which all original cryptocurrencies are forced to live.

How can we support and fight this sentiment?

Of course centralized altcoins are garbage, and can be made to submit to whatever goverments wish. Bitcoin is immune to that, it doesn't need no one's approval, it simply is, and exists.

Libra seems like it will never exist unless Zuckerberg moves it out of the country and hopefully the receiving country doesn't kill it. His business model probably depends on America so unless he can make the politicians bend, its probably worthless to him too.

Libra and Bitcoin are on opposite poles, Libra represents everything that is done wrong and by itself its showing the world why. I cannot even be born.

You see Bitcoin doesn't care if the politicians approve it, therefore is more valuable.
2056  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Opinion: PoW Will Always Be Criticized for Inefficiency on: January 27, 2020, 05:47:22 PM
The war of consensus algorithms is still raging on. While some believe that only Proof-of-Work can underpin a real cryptocurrency, others think that its time passed long ago, and now it’s time for other algorithms like Proof-of-Stake.

Whichever side you are on, it would seem obvious that no consensus algorithm is perfect in its own right. Any of them has its shortcomings that its competitors lack.

To better understand PoW and criticism directed at it, we’ve had a short conversation with Roman Oleynikov, Doctor of Engineering Sciences and research fellow at Input Output HK. Below is the transcript of what Dr. Oleynikov said.

There is no war, the market has already spoken. PoW is fine and Bitcoin remains the leader. PoS is not the answer and it has been tried for years still failing to get attention (it won't).

PoW is quite efficient, so efficient that its self regulating itself thanks to the market. It also ensures attacks are too costly to even try.
2057  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: On most altcoins disappearing on: January 27, 2020, 05:15:44 PM
As this topic is essentially about Bitcoin, not altcoins (as the tittle wily but deceivingly suggests), I think it is a correct board to start it in

Many of us are wondering what would happen if crypto vanished altogether (and probably having jitters at such a thought). Well, I'm not that cruel, and only propose to discuss the less evil problem, if a problem at all. That is, will Bitcoin as well as a few selected altcoins (say, a couple or so) benefit from the complete disappearance of the total majority of altcoins from the cryptocurrency arena?

As I'm inclined to think, a few remaining coins would benefit dramatically. My train of thought is as follows. We can  plausibly claim that Bitcoin would be far better off now if not for the huge pile of shitcoins that turned out outright scams at the end of the day. People wouldn't have lost their money in these schemes, and they wouldn't lose it if they invested it in Bitcoin instead. Simple and straightforward logic, right?

In the same vein it is natural to assume that the death of the altcoin world would eventually do only good to Bitcoin in the long run as people won't be losing money anymore. So what d'ya think?

I don't think so, no. Bitcoin wouldn't change much with or without the altcoins. The people who currently own altcoins wouldn't necessarily have that in Bitcoin regardless, they could go stocks or whatever. Less altcoins benefiting altcoins? Maybe, but not by much.

In any case its a moot point. Its like those that would want to see a single Linux distribution, or a single desktop environment, or a single web browser: Its never happening. The nature of Free and Open Source software promotes diversity by its very nature, altcoins will continue to exist even if they never achieve success and most will die anyway because there is simply too many of them and many have changed things for the worst (centralization, etc).

Scammers existed before Bitcoin, with bitcoin and with altcoins. Some people lost money in altcoins while not being a scam at all, they simply trusted something that the market deemed worthless.

Bitcoin would not be far better off without the altcoins, it would be, about the same. If there were no altcoins it means it wasn't free and open source and that would lead to a far much worse situation, that thankfully never happened. Closed proprietary software, or security by obscurity is absolute garbage (cryptographers had known that for decades).

Altcoins might wish there were less of them, but that isn't happening either. Nothing stops you from making your own coin, even if its literally just Bitcoin with another name (your own blockchain). That's the beauty of it. Now convincing the market that yours is worth anything, that's a whole other matter... It is like, trying to sell a product in a place with overabundance of said product.
2058  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: My funds have been stolen! on: January 25, 2020, 11:26:48 PM
Hello,
I have a crisis! I have withdrawn (for the seventh time) to my BTC wallet.
After posting the funds (and obtaining two confirmations) - there was an outgoing transaction that was not authorized by me !! The transaction was released twenty minutes after the first confirmation - to some fresh address with no transaction history and is an RBF transaction. It's exactly a transaction at 0.4BTC.
My BTC address from which the funds were stolen: 1CCEQxuUkb6RKQM4TDYbQemBVs2ihe45ps
Address to which funds were sent:
3DTjnTxjPnePfvg3haTyUQQeFK2riuZ1Fr
Unauthorized transaction ID: 2f79dda8aea3f06400be07f04f65b6045ba2e0235efa0bba0f6d9d6375da421c

The transaction is marked as RBF!
I use client Electrum 3.3.8
There is no option for someone to steal a private key from your computer because I watch security all the time!

Is it going to somehow stop the flow of funds or recover them?
I am desperate because these funds were supposed to be for my mother's health.

Let me guess, Windows? Did you never read that using insecure OSes for money handling leads to this?

The private key is not exposed, but they could: Keylog so they get the password from your wallet when you opened it, and (probably earlier) already copied your wallet out since they compromised your PC.

Yes in theory you can double spend but that has to be done too quickly, before the next block is found probably (unless they used a very low fee). To double spend you could recreate your wallet in a secure pc using your seed words and quickly send all your funds elsewhere. Of course by the time you read this is too late, this kind of thing can only be done in advance, but if you have been paying attention something like this would have never occurred in the first place.

Sorry but Bitcoin has no hand holding. When you are your own Bank, if comes with responsibilities. If you cannot trust protecting yourself, you probably need to keep paying others to protect you instead.

In an ideal world, you would have known better. That the computer to do the serious stuff, cannot be the same one you do your leisure things.

A 3rd alternative is trusting the hardware wallet manufacturers, if you cannot be bothered to use a Free and Open Source secure OS like everyone should. Hey, even if you DO use a secure OS, extra precautions are needed when handling valuables by yourself, but when you use the most insecure OS on earth, don't expect miracles.

Another possible vector would be that you had that computer compromised at wallet creation, in that case they got the seed words. This is why there is a guide out there that teaches people how to use (Linux+Tor) Tails) to create a wallet using Electrum securely.

If you search the forum you will find people had lost millions doing the same exact mistake, you are not alone.

Think of a valet parking that copies the key of your car then follows you home and steal it. Its not the car company fault that you gave the key (if temporary) to a stranger. A wallet is that, keys. Don't let it get copied by strangers... And yes, you could have chosen to go to a more secure location where you never handle your key or risk it in any other way.
2059  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin will NOT surpass traditional methods of payment. Convince me. on: January 25, 2020, 11:05:21 PM
I've been for cryptocurrencies from when I first heard about it and got involved back in 2013. There are some pros to having Bitcoin as the future method of payment however there are some cons too.

It would be interesting to see why you think Bitcoin (or other cryptocurrencies) will surpass traditional methods of payment (Cards, Bank transfers, payment gateways etc.). Or if you think they have no future please share why.

Some of my concerns:
  • Ever since a few people have made a fortune from the massive spike in prices, it's attracted a lot of traders and day traders. Not a bad thins but it's clear to me that easily 90% of cryptocurrency users are just traders with no intensions of using the currencies. Hence the rise in a lot of exchanges (a lot of which look the same).
  • All it takes is 51%. Although for a coin such as BTC would be very expensive to attack the network it's still possible.

    Here's my insane scenario:

    100 top banks from across the world don't like the threat BTC has on their business so they all join together to buy compute power, take over the network and cause havoc. I estimate it would cost around $2,000,000,000 (2 Billion USD). This is very expensive but what's $20,000,000 (20 million USD) to a top bank? That's an investment to help protect their business.
  • Speed: BTC is known to be slow to confirm a single transaction (approx 10 mins). ETH is faster (approx 15 seconds). I believe (correct me if i'm wrong) that if you cut down block times it slowly starts to make a decentralised system more centralised.


Food for thought..


And where will you get all that asic gear? Magic? You could also argue the same thing by saying they could band together to buy "all bitcoin", and the exact same thing occurs: Price will go up faster than all the money they could pool, EVEN if govs joined and started printing to foolishly attempt this.

Every 10 minutes a new block is found. You can broadcast when there is only 1 minute left or 9. Fast transactions should not be the aim for someone using Bitcoin, you should stick to transactions that can wait, such as something you would buy online and can wait one day or so for confirmation. The "instant" thing is a specific situation than most people can simply avoid, or perhaps use LN but this is something extraordinary, very uncommon. ETH is a very poor example, its blockchain is also clogged with all the non ETH traffic (gazillion tokens and random contracts) and worst thing is they can undo transactions on a whim, as they already did. No one has the power to do that to Bitcoin, not even Satoshi. ETH re-created the worst characteristic of fiat money.

Anything that is not instant payment, such as wire transfer, can be done with Bitcoin perfectly fine and cheaply. There is only one tx fee you should ever use: 1 sat/B. Its true you can pay more to have more priority, but this should only be done in rare circumstances. It is wrong when wallets try to guess the network and change tx fees on their own, it projects the wrong image of Bitcoin. It is NOT Bitcoin's fault that most wallets do the wrong thing, just don't let the wallet decide for you when you want to speed things up which should only be done rarely, and perhaps never once LN becomes a thing.

Bitcoin is in the hands of too many people for it to be attacked successfully. Some of the smaller altcoins do have this problem. Neither the banks nor the govs even banding together can destroy Bitcoin. People know this and that is why it has its current value after 11 years of its creation. It is safe money you can use or keep without any artificial restrictions imposed by law or politics.
2060  Other / Off-topic / Re: Betelgeuse Supernova can go BOOM at any time on: January 25, 2020, 06:34:45 PM
I notice everyone seems to say Betelgeuse once it explodes will be 3rd brightest before the moon, and the sun. But everyone seems to miss a key component in history in regards to SN 1006 and the explosion in the year 1006 AD. It's about 7200 light years away, and when it exploded as a supernova, it was nearly as bright as the moon.

So if that was nearly as bright as the moon. How can Betelgeuse be just as bright? Its nearly 6600 light years closer to us. And further more we aren't completely sure how close it is, it can be between 400-700 light years away, but seems the consensus on about 600 light years away approximately.

You say "at any time", but are you aware that what you see is as old as that number you mention the distance is? It is 6600 years late...

More importantly is how long would it last, as that would mean nice lightning at night, perhaps people could turn off the lights or something. Fauna might be troubled, but nothing can be done. I doubt I'll be a second sun, more like an additional larger moon.

Did you know how long that SN 1006 lasted? 3 months. Make those months count!

Then again it might be a while since we finally get to see this ancient history that is the sky.

Remember, even the Sun light is 8 minutes old (and they say it takes thousands of years to reach the surface). Light Years mean exactly that, time for light it takes to reach in Earth years.
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