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2101  Economy / Securities / Re: [Mpex.co] The Scientology of Bitcoin Finance? on: April 12, 2014, 07:49:33 PM
@jimmothy -- other than it not being quite as lulzy as Havelock (which you kiss on at every opportunity), hopefully nothing.  I'm not concerned with MPEx -- those who can afford 30BTC door charge can take care of themselves.

I think havelock is a great exchange, but not worth nearly 100k btc.

If you think that 100k btc is a high evaluation then you must be mind boggled by mpex 1 million btc value while only having 1 actively traded stock.

If you are not concerned about mpex you might be in the wrong thread.
2102  Economy / Securities / Re: [Mpex.co] The Scientology of Bitcoin Finance? on: April 12, 2014, 07:40:58 PM
and i think paying only 0,01 btc for accessing such paradoxal point of view to be quite cheap (instead of that free mainstream crap we got served all day anyway).

Even 1 satoshi is too much to veiw such absurd ramblings and manipulative articles.
2103  Economy / Securities / Re: [Mpex.co] The Scientology of Bitcoin Finance? on: April 12, 2014, 07:37:57 PM
http://trilema.com/2014/bitcoin-assets-m/
#bitcoin-assets is now a cult!

Assuming it wasn't already.

I am surprised mp didn't throw in a random 5 btc fee to join the chat room/cult. Seems like something he would do.

Lol, how are your "investments" on (and, i assume, in) Havelock doing?  Somethin' like this?




I got my 0.01 btc investment out of neobee long ago.

And I happen to agree with you that it is a shitty investment. And I was one of the first to say HIF was overvalued. (Still is)

But what does this have to do with the cult of mpex?
2104  Economy / Securities / Re: [Mpex.co] The Scientology of Bitcoin Finance? on: April 12, 2014, 06:26:24 PM
http://trilema.com/2014/bitcoin-assets-m/
#bitcoin-assets is now a cult!

Assuming it wasn't already.

I am surprised mp didn't throw in a random 5 btc fee to join the chat room/cult. Seems like something he would do.
2105  Economy / Securities / Re: ROCKMINER - miners using GEN3 ASICMINER chips on: April 11, 2014, 09:54:52 AM
Testing boards are arrived,one BE200 on each,but we found that there were something wrong with them,some of components bought from Huaqiang North market can't work normally.We are working hard on this,more info will be given out soon.


How many chips are supposed to go on one board? I can't figure out from the pictures.

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one BE200 on each
2106  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech launches a new line of ASIC miners - Best W/GH/s ratio on: April 10, 2014, 11:02:09 PM
Its really not too expensive.

The 1 month hosting = $0.19/kwh and 3 month plan = $0.15/kwh

What calculator are you using?

$250/mo, 720 hrs/mo, 1.25 kw = $.28/kwh


Thought it was 1400W per miner but you still need to include 30% extra for cooling so each miner would use about 1600W with cooling included.

Fixed calculations should be $0.22/kwh for 1 month hosting and $0.17/kwh for 3 month.
2107  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech launches a new line of ASIC miners - Best W/GH/s ratio on: April 10, 2014, 10:41:36 PM
When to expect the bug in noise to be fixed?

We're waiting for answers from Emerson, regarding the needed PSU firmware change.

In the meantime, please consider one of our hosting plans: http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/collections/products/hosting
May SP10 + August SP30 bundle includes two months of free hosting: http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/products/better-together-sp10-sp30-may-august-2-months-free-hosting

One word...Expensive...

Its really not too expensive.

The 1 month hosting = $0.19/kwh and 3 month plan = $0.15/kwh

This includes free maintenance and all the other benefits that come with hosting.

I don't know why they wouldn't go with 2 phase immersion cooling for their datacenter. Would save them 300W per KW.
2108  Economy / Securities / Re: [HAVELOCK] AlcheMiner Scrypt ASIC IPO Friday April 11 on: April 10, 2014, 09:33:09 PM
I'll have to read up on this a bit more, but it's piqued my interest at least.

Though unfortunately I can't say I trust a startup that states in their initial prospectus:
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• Total IPO funding in BTC: 11,200 BTC
• Company valuation based on current exchange rate (1 BTC =
400 USD): $11.2M



Why? 4 million usd is a lot for a startup but 28nm nre costs are pretty expensive afaik.

Edit: 4 million actually sounds too much even for 28nm. Asicminer only needed to raise $200,000 or 5% of what they are asking
2109  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive ASICMiner Cube Setup on: April 10, 2014, 09:27:50 PM
You guys are aware that cubes cost more to run in electricity than they earn in bitcoins right?
2110  Economy / Securities / Re: [HAVELOCK] AlcheMiner Scrypt ASIC IPO Friday April 11 on: April 10, 2014, 09:02:46 PM
Interesting.

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could I have any chance of making my money back

Wouldn't we all like to know?

If there is a chance then it will be with the most efficient miners.
2111  Economy / Securities / Re: NEO and BEE talk (unmoderated) on: April 10, 2014, 08:29:08 PM
blah

Thank you for actually contributing the fact that what you really wanted out of this was to be able to resell your worthless shares to another "investor" and thus pass the buck.

Also, if you really think Havelock is actually a half-decent exchange, explain: VTX, RENT/RENT2 (or whatever they call it), CFIG, etc.  Do you mean less scammy maybe? If it ever were a half-decent site in the past, it sure is going the wrong way.

You might also be interested in checking out the SEC/FINRA rules on trading halt. Some of them should really be applied in Bitcoin stock "exchanges", lest we stay in scammer-land (good for scammers, bad for investors and everyone else).

Do you really think that those fly by night operators care about their customers? lol

You are right. I did want out of this. Why are you so bent on forcing me to hold my shares. They are my shares shouldn't I be free to do as I please with them? You and I might think the shares are worthless but clearly the people buying right now feel differently.


I think you should really learn how SEC handles trading halts. In case you didn't already know, the halt was merely a suggestion from a random neobee staff member. Havelock has every right to ignore the suggestion especially when no more communication is coming from the people who suggested halting trading to begin with. So even if the SEC was regulating havelock, they would be fine with how the halt/resume was handled.

It seems more likely to me that you are just looking for reasons to hate havelock. It is fine if you think they are sketchy or don't care about customers but resuming trading only benefits the customers so you will need to find another straw to grasp at.
2112  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: EMPBitcoin 2TH/s Miner - Escrow Only [No Preorder] on: April 10, 2014, 08:15:31 PM
Regardless of whether they are legit or not I would never do business with them.

Due to the fact that they think it is acceptable to sell several thousand dollars worth of hardware without picture or video evidence is proof of either incompetence or an outright scam.

They have already acknowledged that 90% of asic manufacturers are scams and yet they put zero effort in to proving they are not another scam.

Crappy template website + no evidence = SCAM
2113  Economy / Securities / Re: NEO and BEE talk (unmoderated) on: April 09, 2014, 10:33:19 PM
If anyone is interested this is Danny's bitcoin wallet address.

https://blockchain.info/address/16HQH4QNhec4MgRYnetdhD6KzH3uRsZ3hp

The last transaction is 20th March.  and its now empty.

Any evidence that's his address?

What kind of evidence do you need?


Any evidence at all would be nice.
2114  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech launches a new line of ASIC miners - Best W/GH/s ratio on: April 09, 2014, 08:16:36 PM
General question on forum / thread etiquette. It's new to me, so I'm asking.
Let's say some users are clearly competitors trolls. Should I call them out or not ?

The question doesn't refer to the post above

Depends on what you mean by calling them out.

If a competitor/troll says something untrue about your company you should feel free to correct him.

If it is opinionated or something not factual (like who will ship preorders first) I would ignore it.
2115  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Crooks Will Render Mining Unprofitable on: April 09, 2014, 08:21:11 AM
How many people using their apartments free electricity do you think are mining?

At most there are a few hundred people each limited to 1kw max. This doesnt even compare to a knc 10mw datacenter.

Unless rent and hardware are free this situation is not realistic.
2116  Economy / Securities / Re: NEO and BEE talk (unmoderated) on: April 09, 2014, 02:06:25 AM
You have no idea what you're talking about. Havelock makes 0.4% per trade, that is 0.3 BTC, not 0.15.

Fact is that trading should have never been halted to begin with. If danny or tat didn't authorize it then who did?
The announcement clearly states that the NeoBee compliance officer requested the trading halt.

0.3btc or 0.15 doesn't matter because it is incredibly tiny. We are talking about a company which supposedly lost 12k btc of investors funds a month after launch and you guys are concerned about havelock making 0.3btc on trading fees?

The announcement clearly states "they have strongly recommended that we halt trading and transfers."

So it was only a strong recommendation which havelock is free to ignore.
2117  Economy / Securities / Re: NEO and BEE talk (unmoderated) on: April 08, 2014, 08:12:51 PM
Neobee did not have the right to freeze trading simply because there is "suspicious trading" on a seperate trading platform.

And havelock does not need neobees permission to resume trading because there is no neobee.

You are implying than a stock exchange has supreme power over a company, above board of directors, and shareholders, because the share is traded there.
Havelock stopped trading because the company asked so.
Havelock resumed trading on their own and actually store your shares, as others have pointed.

And if havelock says jump, do you ask how high mate?

EDIT, could not resist, you fluffy troll, bold test is my emphasis:
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And how is havelock stealing anything? They have earned a whopping 0.1btc in trading fees since enabling trading.

for the past two days, neoq had more than 200btc trade vol, per day.
You are implying that havelock made 0.1 btc with over 400btc daily trade vol on neobee, in two days?
you so funny.

I do love when people talk out of their ass.

First of all the fund listed on havelock is not under neobees control. It is a passthrough run by tat who ragequit giving control to havelock.

Fact is that trading should have never been halted to begin with. If danny or tat didn't authorize it then who did?

Second, there was only 74btc traded so far since trading resumed. Only half of that is taxed (no fees on buys) so havelock has made a whopping 0.15 btc by allowing trading. Wow such scam. Very profit.
2118  Economy / Securities / Re: 7%-20% return! Looking for serious investors! on: April 08, 2014, 05:30:37 AM
is this 7%-20% weekly or daily?

Hourly
2119  Economy / Securities / Re: 7%-20% return! Looking for serious investors! on: April 08, 2014, 03:07:16 AM
I too am looking for serious investonomers.

I offer the same deal but instead with 7000%-500000% returns.*

Send me money if interested.


*returns not guaranteed
2120  Economy / Securities / [WTB] 5 rockminer shares on: April 08, 2014, 02:56:01 AM
Looking to buy five (5) rockminer shares from this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=528464.0

I want to pay 0.15 btc/share (50% more than IPO)

PM me if interested.
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