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2101  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: Dank Bank Deposits - dank soul guarantee - 1.2%-2.0% weekly - New music Oct. 19 on: October 22, 2012, 07:49:27 PM
Don't you think any of the 1 million people would have a medical education?

Don't you think that without appropriate equipment that medical education is going to be pretty useless for anything other than administering bystander CPR (which has a devastatingly low success rate).  The original Woodstock had to have medical supplies and equipment flown in by helicopter (and had to medivac people out) - what on earth makes you think that an event twice that size isn't going to need either?  Not to mention the fact that the indemnity insurance of medical workers isn't going to cover them practising medicine at an event which isn't even going to have public liability insurance.  

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Boycott all dank threads.

Atlas actually got banned for dank's kind of ridiculousness.  I suspect that the only reason the mods haven't moved dank's thread to Off-topic is that it's already located in the scammer forum.
2102  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: The Trendon Shavers Saga continues... on: October 22, 2012, 05:57:42 AM
This guy could make the call: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=66121 Remember, he's the one who called Trendon's dad.

Also, Zach Nakaska Linkedin worked for the same guy, and he's one of TS's partners.

~Bruno K~


I think that's a bad idea given that he also talked about things such as involving Trendon's wife's ex-husband and stuff.  

Phin, it's obvious that the former employer concerned is The Lending Partners (no surprise there).  As they're a legitimate business, they're probably not going to want to get involved in any kind of vigilante justice so you really need to make sure that whoever talks to them can keep it calm and rational.

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Probably information on him that would lead to a successful legal action against him.

Has anyone even tried consulting a US lawyer about possible causes of action against Trendon?  Tried having him served at his father's address?  While any information The Lending Partners can provide is obviously useful in terms of background stuff, it's not relevant to the facts of Trendon's activities within this community.  It might push authorities to regard him as a serial fraudster, though.  One question to ask The Lending Partners is whether they ever considered taking legal action against Trendon and why they decided not to ( does he keep himself "judgement-proof", for instance).

It might also be worth asking whether there was any indication that either Ryland Shavers or Zach Nakaska were involved in Trendon's sketchiness.
2103  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: OPEN LETTER to Donald, Patrick & Amir RE: Bitcoinica on: October 22, 2012, 05:44:48 AM
Nice dirt.

It's not the first time similar stuff has come up.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_ECG6JRZs-7SXFtdG1QXy1uSnM/edit

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99222.msg1085617#msg1085617
2104  Other / Off-topic / Re: why not pump and dump those jerks? on: October 22, 2012, 05:26:55 AM
I just find it ironic that Desolator's so anti-SR when it's pretty obvious he got into Bitcoin during the bubble which was fuelled by Silk Road's existence.  Those who were involved in Bitcoin prior to that bubble - whether they were mining or buying BTC - we're in little danger of losing money when BTC prices went into free-fall last year.  The people who were pissing their pants when the bubble burst were those who got involved at a time when Silk Road was the Bitcoin killer app. driving speculation on Bitcoin.  In February, 2011 - when SR launched - BTC was about parity with the USD.  Following the launch of SR, it climbed to about USD 10, it's value exploding when Gawker made the existence of SR - and by extension, Bitcoin - known to the general public in June 2011.  Apparently Desolator had no moral qualms about getting involved in Bitcoin despite it's value at the time he became involved being substantially driven by Silk Road.
2105  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: The Trendon Shavers Saga continues... on: October 22, 2012, 04:58:26 AM
It might be worth whoever contacts the former employer passing on the contact details of the guy from the SEC who was looking into pirate's ponzi.  It couldn't hurt for investigators to be aware that he's acted fraudulently in the past.
2106  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: The Trendon Shavers Saga continues... on: October 22, 2012, 04:03:56 AM
Yep, just C&P it with information redacted (you can post that later if it seems appropriate).  A screenshot's not more authentic proof and I think you're trusted enough around here that people are going to accept your word if you say you haven't altered anything significant.
2107  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: Dank Bank Deposits - dank soul guarantee - 1.2%-2.0% weekly - New music Oct. 19 on: October 22, 2012, 01:50:29 AM

Edit: Have you ever organized, or been involved with organizing, an event for more than a thousand people?  Hell, have you ever been involved with organizing an event for 40 people?

He's just the "ideas guy".  You don't expect him to do any of the actual work do you?  That's what the audio technician, lighting technician, contractor and electrician are for!  What else could possibly need organising?

dank should learn to play this song.  I have a feeling it's going to be his life anthem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeYsTmIzjkw
2108  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: Dank Bank Deposits - dank soul guarantee - 1.2%-2.0% weekly - New music Oct. 19 on: October 22, 2012, 12:42:01 AM
I'm looking for people interested in helping with the music festival.  What we're looking for:

1000 Acres land
Stage equipment
Audio equipment
Audio technician
Lighting equipment
Lighting technician
Contractor (build bathrooms)
Electrician
Fireworks + pyro Smiley

Optionally, we will also set up some carnival type rides if we could get a volunteer for them.

Help be a part of history by taking the end of the year off of work and working together, as one, to form the biggest music festival ever.

This has nothing whatsoever to do with Lending or Long-term Offers.

logansryche put more effort into planning his theatre restoration than you've put into this.  You're literally less capable of planning something than logansryche.
2109  Economy / Speculation / Re: Our Competitions' Valuations on: October 21, 2012, 08:56:57 PM
Currency values are at:


    European Union - 1035.2 billion USD, 24.30%
    USA - 850.7 billion USD, 19.97%
    Japan - 762.4 billion USD, 17.90%
    China - 492.3 billion USD, 11.56%
    India - 140.3 billion USD, 3.29%
    Russia - 110.8 billion USD, 2.60%
    UK - 87.5 billion USD, 2.05%
    Canada - 43.8 billion USD, 1.03%
    Switzerland - 40.3 billion USD, 0.95%
    Poland - 37.7 billion USD, 0.89%
    Brazil - 37.3 billion USD, 0.88%
    Mexico - 34.3 billion USD, 0.81%
    Australia - 32.4 billion USD, 0.76%
    Other countries - 554.9 billion USD, 13.03%


Can Bitcoin reach even 1 Billion USD?

sauce?
Wikipedia with no apparent citations: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circulation_%28currency%29

I believe they are attributable due to market clout and total money circulation alone, though; an easy but crude calculation.

I don't think you understand your own source.  That table's referring to the amount of each nation's currency which is engaged in economic activity as a percentage of total world currencies involved in economic activity. The amount of BTC in circulation at any one time is actually relatively low - it would take quite a lot for the amount of Bitcoin in circulation (which is not the same thing as the theoretical value of all BTC produced to date) to reach $1 billion.  To reach $1 billion based on the amount of BTC in circulation today (roughly 30% of all BTC produced to date), BTC would need to be worth USD 333 each.
2110  Other / Off-topic / Re: why not pump and dump those jerks? on: October 21, 2012, 08:08:39 PM

You sir are a moron.. People do drugs all around you.. They see you and know to hide it because they dont want to deal with police.

Not to mention that SR is one of the things which drove BTC adoption last year.  What do you think the impact of them changing from BTC to another form of payment such as one of the alt. currencies would be?  If BTC can no longer be used for SR transactions, the hit to BTC is going to be greater than just the loss of 20% of transaction volume each month.
2111  Other / Off-topic / Re: DEA agent discusses Bitcoin in class today on: October 21, 2012, 08:03:56 PM
Everyone used to know who the stoner kids were. lol


Yeah but did everyone know a kid who could easily get them other drugs?  Does everyone know how to get hold of research chemicals (which you typically have to get from overseas anyway)?

I think it's inevitable that at some point law enforcement somewhere will use SR as a honey-pot.  That doesn't mean that SR started out that way, though.  The one issue I see for users is that in many places buying locally wouldn't put them at significant legal risk - if they got caught they'd be looking at a minor possession charge or a caution.  Once they're buying from overseas, though, the risk of importation charges arises and those tend to be more severe.
2112  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: The Trendon Shavers Saga continues... on: October 21, 2012, 11:00:41 AM
Nothing unexpected about this. 

I notice that pirate's forum account was last used about 10 days ago.
2113  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: There is no ANY update about bitcoinica? We just got fucked and that's it? on: October 21, 2012, 10:26:52 AM
As Tihan already posted, the liquidation proceedings are listed for hearing before the High Court of NZ on 1 November.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=109316.msg1243849#msg1243849

The only other Bitcoinica related news is that Intersango have filed a motion to dismiss the Cartmell lawsuit in California - the first case management conference was set for January next year, the motion to stay/dismiss will be hear in mid-November.
2114  Other / Off-topic / Re: why not pump and dump those jerks? on: October 21, 2012, 09:27:38 AM
If you weren't here when it happened, you're just showing how unbelievably stupid you are and you're making piles of enemies so you might want to shut up if you have any sort of sense.

I was here when it happened - my registration date is one day after yours.  You've spent a grand total of just under 4 days logged into this forum since you joined, which might explain why you're so out of touch with the opinions of the community in general that you think you'd get any support here for the proposal in your OP.
2115  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: DANGER: Gavin Andresen and Co might introduce a serious change to the protocol. on: October 21, 2012, 08:52:41 AM
This is not a experiment.

I think even Satoshi himself would disagree with you on that assertion.
2116  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: FinCEN says you must be MSB if you sell bitcoins for $ on: October 21, 2012, 02:54:01 AM
If your commodity is apple and tomatoes and you trade them mail order for money do you need a MSB license?

No, but if you are selling the contracts for supply of those items or offering people the opportunity to invest in those contracts then you likely need some kind of financial services licence (a money service business is only one type of financial service provider, there are many others) and are probably required to issue a product disclosure statement/prospectus.

Canadian rules relating to precious metal dealers can be found here.

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The following summary of the legislative requirements under the PCMLTFA applies to you if you are a dealer in precious metals and stones.

A dealer in precious metals and stones means an individual or an entity that buys or sells precious metals, precious stones or jewellery, in the course of its business activities. You are subject to the requirements listed below if you ever engage in the purchase or sale of precious metals, precious stones or jewellery in an amount of $10,000 or more in a single transaction. In other words, you are not subject to these requirements if you engage only in purchases or sales of less than $10,000 per transaction.

http://www.fintrac-canafe.gc.ca/re-ed/dpms-eng.asp
2117  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario on: October 21, 2012, 02:12:20 AM


He went from explaining in the conference how GLBSE was legally impossible to attack ...

Seriously?  LOL.

I wonder how many guests from regulatory authorities were at the conference.
2118  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: OPEN LETTER to Donald, Patrick & Amir RE: Bitcoinica on: October 21, 2012, 01:43:48 AM

Not sure, I have no money in Bitconica nor official capacity here.

My apologies.  I presumed that you must have some personal interest given the amount of effort you've put into trying to mediate this clusterfuck.  Although given that you have put in that effort and continue to do so, it would have been courteous of the parties involved to keep you informed of where things are at from a legal standpoint.  

No worries. I have no direct personal nor business interest in the matter.

Yeah, there's so much cross-investment in Bitcoin enterprises that I sometimes lose track of who holds interests in what businesses.  I forgot that it's Roger who holds an interest in BitInstant rather than you holding one in MemoryDealers.
2119  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Foundation on: October 21, 2012, 01:41:34 AM
If the Foundation is seeking registration as some form of non-profit, then it's likely that voting procedures are outlined by law and that they can't just make them up themselves (here, votes by the membership of non-profits must be overseen by officers of the Electoral Commission who check that members were financial, that the required quorum was met, and that the required formal procedures such as notice, proposers and seconders etc were followed).
2120  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Legal Actions against Nefario on: October 21, 2012, 01:33:46 AM
My part in it? I was not aware at all that this was an illegal securities exchange. So now the defrauded person makes part of the fraud because he "supported" it? You can argue that I was stupid by trusting GLBSE, but not that I made part of any fraud system.

So you provided to them all the information they needed to ensure that you complied with tax obligations?  Asked them for regular statements to ensure that you can accurately report your income for tax purposes?  Have included your GLBSE "investments" on any financial statements requiring you to disclose your income and/or assets?

You can certainly claim that you didn't know GLBSE was an illegal securities exchange.  Mounting an argument that you weren't using it for any illegal purpose might be considerably harder, though because you're absolutely expected to be aware of your own taxation liabilities and to keep adequate records to verify your income and investments.  "I didn't know" doesn't fly when it comes to taxation offences.

And yes, it's ridiculous to even be talking about legal action against somebody who is actively paying.

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