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1681  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: Dank Bank Deposits - dank soul guarantee - 1.2%-2.0% weekly - New music Nov. 9th on: November 29, 2012, 10:20:23 AM
So was there a toxx in here for the concert? If it doesn't happen he has pledged to take a scammer tag or something? If there isn't a venue announced now, there won't be one ever.

There was a toxx on him being a "famous" guitarist before the end of the year - he agreed to the scammer tag on that one.
1682  Economy / Lending / Re: [Loan] Help me save money on: November 29, 2012, 10:14:25 AM
Tangible Cryptography has helped people with the logistics of paying back BTC that are in default before.  It's going to be hard to get anyone to help you while you're still trying to borrow money because those of us who've had our own demons know damned well that if you're still trying to borrow money you're almost certainly kidding yourself by thinking you won't gamble any more.  Chances are that you'll gamble the $150 you save and the repayments due to lenders unless you get help and completely stop borrowing money.

People initially rejected the notion of a scammer tag out of compassion for you.  But you've continued to borrow money and you're actively involved in gambling on this board (and who knows where else).  The people to whom you owe money have a right to feel that you've continued to deceive them after purportedly coming clean.

Again, not what you wanted to hear but those to whom you already owe money have every right to be be intolerant of your attempts to borrow more given your track record.  You're coming across as trying to manipulate people into giving you funds to help out your lenders.  Legal documents mean little with compulsive gamblers because you can't get blood from a stone.
1683  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: Dank Bank Deposits - dank soul guarantee - 1.2%-2.0% weekly - New music Nov. 9th on: November 29, 2012, 10:04:19 AM
I haven't read the last 20 pages of this. Is there a time and place for the concert yet? I really have to know pretty soon or I won't be able to schedule.


In the real world?  No.  But it's all going to take place in dank's mind anyway so just ingest some research chemicals and you'll be able to experience the festival through shared consciousness complete with closed eye visuals.
1684  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitcoinica LP (In Liquidation) form request on: November 29, 2012, 09:31:41 AM
Is there a way to see my original claim if I have the claim ID? Because I'm afraid I don't remember the exact numbers any more...

What do you mean by your "original claim"?  Are you talking about the claim you lodged with Bitcoinica itself earlier in the year?

Yes...

I don't think they have access to that at this time from what they said in the report.  They said that Patrick provided them with information on outstanding balances, though, so they'll probably be able to check your claim against that.
1685  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Usagi: falsifying NAVs, manipulating share prices and misleading investors. on: November 29, 2012, 06:58:02 AM
Maybe this matter should go before the MPEx Rota for resolution.
1686  Other / Off-topic / Re: There's gonna be a tidal wave/tsunami on: November 29, 2012, 06:29:12 AM

More to life than money.

Says the guy who's selling his belongings not giving them away.    Roll Eyes
1687  Economy / Goods / Re: Selling Rolex Oyster Perpetual Air-King - 142.0 BTC OBO on: November 29, 2012, 05:26:53 AM
J-Norm

Welcome to bitcointalk.

I am a foreigner in this land. I am starting to realize that what I consider to be proper may not match the culture I have exposed myself to. Perhaps this sort of thing is perfectly acceptable behavior in this land and if so please excuse the ignorance of this wayfarer.

It's just that people have reason to be suspicious around here because we've had a lot of scammers.  When people are trying to sell a high value item for BTC and it's known that item is frequently counterfeited, the onus is going to be on them to prove the authenticity of the item.  Someone new to the boards trying to sell a similar item would have been given a much harder time than dank was, but even long-standing members don't get the benefit of the doubt just because they've been around for a while and nor should they.

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I think a brick and mortar shop that specializes in watches should know what they are selling, but who knows.

You would think so.  But then you'd think they would have gone to the trouble of getting a certificate of authenticity, too.  I have little doubt that dank will send the watch.  He just mightn't get the price he wants without the certificate if the person who buys it is looking to sell it down the track.
1688  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: CryptoXChange wait time on: November 29, 2012, 04:55:53 AM
How were you contacted? by phone, email?



PM.
1689  Economy / Securities / Re: Wtf can you do when an operator goes rogue ? on: November 29, 2012, 03:11:54 AM

I do wonder what legal recourse you have (if any?) if you are lied to when you make the investment?  If someone tells you they are a company, (company = incorporated) and you invest, do you still have this liability?

I've bought a lot of stocks on etrade and I don't think I've ever dug up their actual incorporation paperwork.


Generally speaking, you're expected to conduct due diligence.  Generally speaking, those making an offering should provide sufficient information for you to do so relatively easily - company numbers, licence numbers, etc.   You can very often verify basic information about a company free of charge, so it's becoming more and more difficult to justify not doing due diligence.  

A blatantly false claim - saying that Microsoft has invested in a company, for instance, when they haven't - designed to mislead investors into a false sense of security can shift liability, though, especially if it can't be easily verified.  At that level, though, you're often looking at investors wanting to examine the company's books before making an investment so it's a different ball game (and at that level, the amount of due diligence expected is considerable).

It's probably also worth pointing out that the extent to which you're involved in company activities often determines liability.  "Investor" is a generic term and the means and manner of investment often have a great deal of bearing on liability.
1690  Other / Off-topic / Re: There's gonna be a tidal wave/tsunami on: November 29, 2012, 02:22:27 AM
You should check out this dank.   This guy thinks a tsunami is going to hit the US East Coast.

http://dangerousmother.com/
1691  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Lurks free raffle on: November 29, 2012, 01:55:20 AM
look a couple bitcents isnt going to make or break my debt and I thought some new users might be happy with .01    whatever....nob you win    fuck everybody

Whether it affects your capacity to pay your debts or not isn't really the point.  It demonstrates to everyone that you're not distancing yourself from gambling and makes people who might have been considering helping you out of your current mess less inclined to do so.
1692  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Usagi: falsifying NAVs, manipulating share prices and misleading investors. on: November 29, 2012, 01:38:46 AM
You should all be considerate of usagi and accept Japanese lessons in return for what you are owed (I guess usagi's lender didn't like that option).  If you don't leave him alone and he drinks so much that he ends up in hospital again, it will be all. your. fault. doncha know.
1693  Other / Off-topic / Re: URGENT! SUPER Scam - Help what can on: November 29, 2012, 12:47:24 AM
If I write a post saying I've had some financial disaster and I can't afford to keep a roof over my head/pay my bills/etc, will you all send me money? 

Oh dear. I hope you're alright.  Undecided

I'm fine.  No financial disasters or anything else requiring me to ask others for a hand (out).  I just wondered if people really think it should be that easy.
1694  Other / Off-topic / Re: Already delays in BFL shipment plans? on: November 29, 2012, 12:27:44 AM
Poor PR = less customers.

Less customers is not necessarily a bad thing.  In many industries now the ideal customer is "high profit/low maintenance" and companies intentionally implement policies which will discourage low profit or high maintenance customers from using their service - they literally want you to take your business elsewhere because you're likely going to cost them more to service than they'll make in profit from trading with you. 

When I was working in financial services and low profit/high maintenance customers used to threaten to take their business elsewhere (usually because they'd been hit by one of the policies designed to get rid of low value/high risk customers), I was often tempted to say "please do" because the truth is that business isn't a charity or community service and you don't actually want customers on whom you lose money.
1695  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Usagi: falsifying NAVs, manipulating share prices and misleading investors. on: November 29, 2012, 12:09:38 AM

On the contract, that's already in the record on forums.  When I first asked about it, I quoted the entire contract.  Usagi then called me a noob for not knowing how to link to it (and referred to it as the whole contract) - totally missing the reason I'd quoted the whole thing in the first place (so there was a copy of it if happened to just vanish - or get modified).

For reference, the image I linked to is a screen-cap I took Monday, ‎8 ‎October ‎2012, ‏‎7:49:34 PM Australian Eastern Daylight Time if anyone wants/needs to check for modifications.
1696  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Usagi: falsifying NAVs, manipulating share prices and misleading investors. on: November 28, 2012, 11:44:44 PM
I notice in the last mentions usagi made about the BMF insurance thing (in theory BMF is still owed 500 BTC from CPA for that - or would be if usagi ever made a claim against CPA on BMF's behalf) that it's now back to its initial explanation (only eventually made a few months after I raised it - te claims it had been explained multiple times are just outright lies) that the contract was somehow just a "test" - though why BMF needed to actually pay premiums or the shareholders had to be told insurance cover was in place for this "test" to work was never made clear.  But if someone has a look in the last posts usagi made on that topic before GLBSE died (posts ofc are now deleted) you'd find that usagi was at the stage of admitting that the BTC was in theory owed and actually talking about various ways to address it - including CPA returning its shares in BMF to BMF.  The argument against this (by usagi) was basically that it would hurt CPA - as ever, consistently failing to seperate duties to different entities and advising BMF shareholders based on CPA's interests.

BMF insurance contract (click image).

1697  Other / Off-topic / Re: If someone could give me a motorcycle on: November 28, 2012, 11:38:25 PM
I don't see why dank can't just consult these people on the astral plane.

If you decide to slum it and meet these people in person, dank, please webcast the part where you tell them that the date for this event is only three weeks away.
1698  Economy / Securities / Re: Wtf can you do when an operator goes rogue ? on: November 28, 2012, 11:31:20 PM
I'd like to think formalizing and legalizing the process has helped.

My guess is that it also helped you gain a more concrete understanding of your rights and responsibilities and what's potentially at stake, making you far less likely to proceed with the business if you're not willing to accept those responsibilities.

It pisses me off no end when people claim that they "can't afford a lawyer" when they start a business.  It tells me that they don't care about understanding and meeting their legal obligations or protecting their own or their customers' interests - why the hell would I want to do business with someone like that?
1699  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Usagi: falsifying NAVs, manipulating share prices and misleading investors. on: November 28, 2012, 11:15:36 PM

Usagi is only entitled to his percentage of the equipment not 100%. He cant take the entire amount but has to divide it equally amongst existing shareholders.

He basically stole 30% or whatever percentage of shares he doesnt own.

Somewhat true.  Shareholders only get a distribution from any surplus left after all other debts have been satisfied unless they have a secured or preferential interest.  So even if usagi is the major shareholder, all other debts of the entity in question need to be satisfied before he can receive his share of the surplus.  All creditors within the same class must be treated equally.

The major problem with usagi's approach (from a practical as well as a technical point of view) is that there is no guarantee that any other assets of BMF will be realised.  If the equipment is the only asset which is realised, then usagi has given himself preferential treatment at the expense of other BMF creditors in order to pay off a CPA debt (which is essentially a personal debt).  usagi has provided no evidence that he had a secured interest in the mining equipment (which doesn't come about purely because he's the major shareholder in BMF or because his name might be on the receipt for the equipment).  He needs to explain how that secured interest was created and how he's legally a secured or preferential creditor of BMF.

Quote from: BCB
Contracts of usagi's companies
Links to spreadsheets and information about usagi's companies on his website (which he has also taken offline)
Announcements and results of shareholder motions
Arguments between usagi and various forum members about how he has been misleading customers in fraudulent business schemes

This thread is a good starting point but without the deleted posts it will be complicated to understand what really happened.

He deleted literally hundreds upon hundreds of posts.  Here's one thread in which it some stuff was discussed.

The second post quotes in full an October 4 post by usagi which is pretty critical to the way this has all been handled.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=printpage;topic=115284.0

I have screen caps of the account 12, account 15 and account 16 CPA contracts if anyone needs them. 
1700  Other / Off-topic / Re: Where could someone comfortably live on $30 a day? on: November 28, 2012, 10:21:29 PM
costa rica

Cuba crossed my mind as well.
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