oh sad my account ranked down to newbie but my posts was not a newbie poster at all, newbie need now at least 1 merit to rank up to jr. member and I think my account now should have 1 merit can somebody check my posts to be a jr. member.
Here you go. I've gone through your post history. You're posts aren't perfect, but it's pretty clear you're a real account with a long post history of on-topic comments. Definitely deserve to be a jr. member  Crocus mainly posts in Spam Megathreads, and has a fake Bitcoin address in his profile. That's not someone who I would consider worthy of ranking up. |
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Do you judge post made by a user that has a paid sig differently than a post made by a user without "paid posts"?
See: it depends on the signature campaign. If someone wears a signature advertising some token for an ICO, and gets paid in tokens, I often don't read his post. If I don't read it, he won't receive any Merit for sure.
I know your signature campaign has a strict manager, mine too, but most of the ICO spammers don't care about anything. It's simply not worth reading all the crap that's posted. I already noticed the same thing... Maybe it would be a good idear to generate some statistics in a couple of days and create a list of posts that were given exactly 1 merit AND this 1 merit was needed to stop the demotion of the receivers... That way we could filter trough these posts and neg tag anybody who clearly tried to cheat the system by trading/buying exactly 1 merit.... I remember theymos saying not to tag them for small abuses, and I for sure won't do it. As for the proposition of anybody losing 1 merit every x days: i must say i'm against the proposition... What about people that seldomly post? Even if 100% of their posts would be high quality, it would still be probable for them to demote if they didn't forcefully post a couple posts every couple of days... An easy fix would be to lose 1 Merit each time you go up 100 in Activity. This is a great news, maybe 5 merits for jr members are even better, I'm very happy with this change.
If Jr. Member requirements go up by 1 Merit point every 6 months, it will demote the farmers again  |
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180 posts that are mostly spam are my past mistakes. If only I could go back to the past to change that. But I don't think that will happen. I hope there is a menu for deleting posts that we have created so that I can delete errors that I made in the past.
You can go to your post history, open each old post, and start deleting. |
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Created a petition! Lol You must be confused, thinking this is a democracy where spammers get a vote. May we get some hints where we can find those 36 new merit sources? I'll give you a hint: begging for Merit isn't going to get you anything good. Many of these limitations can be eliminated with a copper membership. In particular, you can set a signature at Member level if you wear a copper membership. I want to know when is the copper membership will expire ? Never (but you can get banned!). The perks may change in the future though.
I already see several Newbies who complain (or compliment) in this thread, and suddenly received 1 Merit today! See this example, he received 1 Merit for an old post 17 minutes before posting in this thread. I'd say the next step should be for everybody (all Ranks!) to lose 1 Merit every x days. It could be as low as one per year, or maybe once every 3 months. That should demotivate users from buying one Merit somewhere. Any normal poster won't be influenced much by losing 1 Merit once in a while. But it's a good start already!
Reference data for future abuse tracking: Last Friday, 6286 users had received 1 Merit. One week earlier, 6237 users had received 1 Merit. One more week back, 6190 users had received 1 Merit. That's an increase of less than 50 per week. I wouldn't be surprised if there are 500 new users with 1 Merit next Friday. Update: Follow-up reading |
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~see above~ Thank you very much for your effort! I've added an Altcoin-chapter to the OP, and added a link to your work in the Stellar thread. However, in this case it didn't solve it. I tried your software on some manual variations on Ronny-T's handwriting, and manually checked 300+ valid keys. None of them holds his funds (worth about 1 year salary where he lives). That means he either made more than 2 mistakes, or part of the key has shifted a block of characters one (or more) position(s) left or right. A brute-force search for 3 mistakes would still be doable on standard hardware (a few hours); 4 characters would take close to a year. For doing this, it would need to automate checking if the key belongs to the right address (manually checking 20k keys is too much), but I can't say how likely this would be to succeed. |
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I have tried the dumpwallet "filename" option, receiving the unencrypted file,
put it into electrum and it did not show my balance. What did you import? Note: Don't post your private keys here!Is it a private key starting with "5", "K" or "L", and 51 or 52 characters long? When I checked the backup of the wallet.dat file, I found out that I have somehow changed it in 2017, compromising the one of 2016. An older wallet may or may not still contain funds, it depends on what else you did after making the backup. Is there a possibility I still can access my funds or are they lost? ~ Help is much appreciated, Im still optimistic to recover the funds  How much funds are involved, if you don't mind me asking? You've been trying for a month, any computer built in the last 5 years could easilly have synced the entire blockchain by now. It shouldn't take more than a few days on "normal" hardware. |
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You say my posts are short. I don't write posts shorter than 100 characters (very very rarely) Good posts don't have to be long. |
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On average, merit sources(now) have less sMerit compared to what the average was prior to the upgrade/additions:
19,500/84 sources= 232.14 sMerits
23,045/120 sources= 192.04 sMerits That makes sense: some of the old sources have very high amounts, but most send much less than the average. In the last 30 days: 734: suchmoon
485: chimk
399: Foxpup
301: dbshck
244: Vod
234: hilariousetc
231: qwk
198: Micio
196: LoyceV
180: TMAN
162: Welsh
152: DarkStar_
140: EFS
131: Halab
127: Jet Cash
115: JayJuanGee
113: BobLawblaw
110: MaRSe
97: LFC_Bitcoin
95: DdmrDdmr
92: bones261
92: frodocooper
90: OgNasty
88: theymos
87: paxmao
83: hilariousandco
75: Moloch
71: teramit
68: theymos_away
67: iCEBREAKER
63: nizamcc
63: _javi_
60: micgoossens
56: Vlad2Vlad
55: esmanthra
54: Piggy
54: vapourminer
53: TrollCoins
52: ETFbitcoin
51: Gyrsur
51: xtraelv
51: o_e_l_e_o
51: Matthias9515
51: BitNow
50: RegulusHr
50: tomsmith26
50: SebastianJu
50: Jasad
50: bumbacoin
50: Johnny00 If my counting is correct, my source Merit went up twice until now. It makes sense to start with a relatively low amount, and increase if if the Merit source proves to distribute them properly. |
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Do you know of anyone who'd be able to design and manufacture playing, tarot, or trading cards? Some (Chinese?) webshops can produce this, ArtsCow.com for example charges $13.99 for producing just one set. The design will have to be a community effort, and no, I can't help with that  |
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I currently have received more merit than everyone in the forum except for 218 people, and I have not received sufficient merit to achieve Full Member status, but am a Legendary member only because I was grandfathered in. ~ Surely there are more than 220 people who make sufficiently good posts to be a Full Member. Full Member requires 100 Merit, you have earned 141. As of last Friday, 343 users have received 100 or more Merit (and 423 users received 90, which is enough if they started with 10 airdropped Merits). An ideal system in my view would be for someone to pay maybe a dollar to become a junior member (that would not allow signatures of any kind), pay $10-$20 to become a Member/Copper Member~ I've seen rates of $1000 per week per thread for a "bumping service", and they used 35 different accounts to do this. A small payment per account isn't going to stop them. are you happy jon?
@theymos: how can this user still have a signature? Is it only removed when someone reaches 30 Activity? Update: I created a new account last week, that one still has signature and Personal Text. I kinda like it: a Newbie starts with some perks, and has 30 Activity to prove he's worth keeping it. If not, it disappears. |
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very much bouty need jr member . and difficult to have a metrit i have 238 activity but not get metrit . today i become newbie verry sad i think better if need 200 activity to become jr. even 5p i can post 1 that meaning i only can work 20 bouty for a day before i can made 100 . what can i do now give up a dream become a bouty man find a other work ?
You're a perfect example to show why this was needed. You made 1160 posts without adding any value to this forum. You call yourself a "bouty man", I call this spamming. |
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I understand that this affects the display of images created by TS.
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help me, I ask you
Get a Copper Membership, and your images show up again. One thing that wasn't mentioned is that some existing merit sources seem to have gotten a source size increase as well, so there should be much more merit flowing. I've seen mine go up by 20 sMerit twice so far (based on counting how many I've sent in the past 30 days, and how many I have left).
Thanks theymos! This means the many Jr. Member spambots can now be nuked! I've seen them with hundreds up to 1000+ posts without earning a single Merit. With help from DdmrDdmr, I just added 36 new merit sources, which should help newbies achieve the requirement. But if you're incapable of posting anything worthwhile, then you will never rank up, and you shouldn't: this isn't the forum for you.
For later reference: There are 120 merit sources with a total merit generation of up to 23045 sMerit per 30 days |
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Yes but only if they give merits to people who actually deserve and need them.
Tired of seeing legendaries sending merits to other legendaries, or members sending them to theymos or to bounty managers. There's no point doing that. The Merit system is working just fine! What you call "people who need them", I call spammers. They are the reason we have the Merit system, and it's designed so they won't rank up. To me, it doesn't matter whether or not someone "needs" Merit, I give Merit if the post is worth it. |
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What about the accounts that are inactive from before the system was implemented? There are hundreds or thousands of accounts that are not being used anymore. Some because the people using them have left the forum, and most of them because they had been red tagged and left unused after that by the signature spammers. All of those accounts must have also gotten sMerits from the airdrop, but since they have not been used, the sMerits are frozen within those accounts. I think those frozen sMerits would probably have made a difference assuming the inactive accounts would be quite large in number.
The airdropped amount of sMerit depended on the activity gained in the previous year. Especially the lower ranks got small amounts, even if they were active. See theymos' formula. |
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Don't bother starting a youtube channel or anything would bring more population to bitcointalk,so long as things are bad here. Can i just say: "I completely agree"? I like the idea of a high quality Youtube channel made by Bitcointalk as a community, but I don't think it should be a priority at this point. I'm much more in favour of improving the forum before starting other activities. I've even adjusted my Personal Text for it. If you're really interested with video content for the community, why not host it yourself with the forum ( a subdomain for example or a video board here) Youtube is more or less "the standard" by now. It easily takes care of everything, at the cost of bothering users with full screen unskippable commercials. Given the number of threads in Meta over the last few days/weeks/months complaining about the state of the forum, the ridiculous levels of bounty spam, asking for more mods and suggesting about 100 other ideas for improvement, would it not be wise to focus on the forum first before taking on a new project? This can't be emphasized enough! Maybe Theymos wants to keep the forum more libertarian and wild west anarchic than what a lot of people calling for, quite authoritarian action at times.. This forum gives users freedom to say what they want, even if someone's opinion isn't popular or even repulsive. And I barely see any complaints about that. Spam on the other hand should just not be tolerated, especially if the spammers earn good money from destroying this forum. It's an industry now: I'm pretty sure the homograph bump bots for example are controlled by only one person/team. On some days, they create about 500+ posts, on other days there's nothing. That has nothing to do with freedom, it's spam for financial gain. |
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Have you seen MadZ' Unofficial merit source application thread? I don't think it's currently being maintained, but it has more unprocessed merit source applications. I think members who apply for merit source qualification should have a uniform standard. That's not possible, and not needed. Everybody receives merit from different sources for slightly different reasons, and on average that's totally fine. |
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- Can we have a dedicated board for discussions with reading restriction for people with low rank and low report score???
. Why would people with low rank be restricted from joining a forum discussion? What iasenko means, is a thread to discuss spam, like [CLUB]The SpamBuster!4 Cases open,over 3000 accounts, Reviewed:5000+ [11.09]. It's better if spammers can't read what's being done to fight them. Bump bots are a big business that earns thousands of dollars per week from spamming this forum. |
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~if there are 100, 1000 or 10000 merit sources there shouldn't be any catastrophic consequences. However you get the big advantage of having more eyes looking around~ The problem will be oversight. With 1000 merit sources, it will be virtually impossible for Admin to keep an eye on them. One or more rogue merit sources can result in spammers ranking up again. |
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Now there are 9 places in the Trial room and all our bots (insects) are pacifists (drown with only 1% probability, but revenge for drowning themself of course). If someone come with aggressive bot (like Loyce's one) it will climb with 8 pacifists - it's a question if it can beat 8 with the same ease as 6. I can still beat 8 of them I'm now up against 8 of these:  I'm using the same settings as before. With one player like meThe probability of them drowning anyone is 1%. I win if nobody drowns anyone. If just one bot drows another bot, I'm very likely to lose. I hope my math is correct: Round 1: the probability of nobody drowning anyone is (0.99^8)^8 (=0.525596) (because there are 8 bots drowning 8 others with 1% probability) Round 2: the probability of nobody drowning anyone is (0.99^8)^8 Round 3: the probability of nobody other than me drowning anyone is (0.99^8)^8 The probability of nobody other than me drowning anyone for 3 rounds is ((0.99^8)^8)^3 (=0.145). That means there's a 14.5% chance I win the round if I drown them all on round 3. With a 1 bit buy-in and 8.91 bit pot, that gives me an average return of 1.29x my wagered amount. There's a small bonus: sometimes I win a shared prize (say 1.11 bit), which slightly increases the returns. With 2 players like meIf anyone were to join using the same strategy, the math changes: Round 1: the probability of nobody drowning anyone is (0.99^7)^7 (=0.611117) The probability of nobody other than us drowning anyone for 3 rounds is ((0.99^7)^7)^3 (=0.228). That means there's a 22.8% chance we both win if we drown them all on round 3 and have to share the pot. That gives an average return of 1.01677x the wagered amount. |
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I'll suggest something different. From what Jet Cash has written, some sources of merit may see the function of distributing merits almost as a professional activity. They spend time looking for what to merit. Without them receiving almost anything in return, and this seems to be a stressful activity since the forum is flooded with spam. I tried that a few times, but every time I go to patrol or Bitcoin Discussion, I end up reporting posts and getting users banned instead of meriting them. What I do, is Merit posts that I read anyway. I more or less gave up on searching for good posts, except for going through someone's post history once in a while. Other sources prefer to use these merits to distribute among people they already know and other legendary members. Merit is not only meant to stop spammers from ranking up, it's also meant to highlight good posts. That's why I merit posts of any rank For the record: I don't "know" anybody on this site ~I believe that Temporary sources of Merit should be added. It would last only 14 days. What he did not use would be burned. And his choice would be by a random algorithmic. Of course, so that it is not a total waste sending sMerit to a ghost, some elements in the equation would be added. The user would have to receive at least 1 merit in the last 120 days and have written something in the last 14 days, at least. I estimate that thousands of spammers have traded or bought Merit. This would give them the chance to rank up their alt accounts again, which goes against everything Merit was supposed to do. |
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