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2181  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: November 17, 2016, 08:51:14 AM
Gambling is in fact a hobby of rich persons which they use for various purposes and fun is one of them. If I was rich I was off course doing gambling because for me it is not to make money since I was already having lot of money. It is poor which gamble to become rich watching rich playing gamble they think it is way of becoming rich.
I too think a rich man will not gamble as he will be having many other opportunities to entertain himself, still they may find some time to gamble but definitely not regularly. But when people are occasionally watching them they get the wrong lessons like they were becoming rich only due to gambling and poor people also want to copy what they did.
gambling are not always about money , i even see there a lot of rich people gambling rather than poor people. it's indicates on how people keep gambling even they are rich already. things make gambling be a big problem on someone life precisely due there is poor people trying to become rich through gamble.

Agree to that - Gambling is not all about money every time. Of course, there are people that gambles for money like professional gamblers does. However, if you are not a professional gambler and you bet on your hard earned money is where the problem starts. We should play or gamble just for fun and entertainment only.
there only few numbers become a succesfull professional gambler , mostly just failed. so i would take the most cases gamble for money never guarantee you to reach it. it's doen't matter if rich people want to keep gambling , they knew the risk .
2182  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: November 17, 2016, 08:02:26 AM
for this situation, I think we can compare  Zinadine Zidane and Ryan Giggs. When Zidane manage Real Madrid, in the first year he get a champions league with that players. And now with manchester united play in under champions league competition called Europa League, with their squad now they can win the europa league with Ryan Giggs.

Ryan giggs should be much better coach compared with mourinho however Im pretty sure that the reason why manchester united doesnt give ryan giggs the chance to be the next coach is probably they dont want to sack ryan giggs incase he is doing bad so they still let him learn at this moment however mourinho definitely needs to be changed
that was a good way to think about how manchester united treat ryan giggs , but in my opinion it's pretty clear a big team like manchester united won't to hire a manager that not have experience enough like ryan giggs , he must have spent a lot of time enough to manage a club then back to united later. so far i see skybet provide an odds for mourinho to leave 20/1 pretty high  Roll Eyes

That is probably the reason why he is not the coach until today. Obviously manchester united got a good eye for talent so giggs talent wont be wasted just like that so they are still giving some time for giggs to learn . The chances for mourinho to be sacked will be quite high if their performance is still bad until the boxing day
yeah makes sense , giggs wouldn't be appointed by manchester united management until he has managed several clubs at least. and show his quality , jose mourinho to leave manchester united for now seems like wouldn't happened , manchester united would give him two or four months left at least to decide whether he stay or leave.

Yeah Manchester United will not sack Mou for now. He still have a long time to bring United back to the top of the league, for now, I think his name is the best for manchester united. At least at the end of the season, if he can't reach big 4, then he should out.
or he will never ever can make it happen , mourinho have got a very bad reputation since last year start from make chelsea dropped out from european competition , and now manchester united turn. he really need some space , i mean just get some rest from managing any club , he has a problem with his emotion , at least fix it. or he will never be a special one anymore.
2183  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Prediction ligue 1, france football league on: November 16, 2016, 02:19:30 PM
This is my 3rd bet single bet for this week Ligue 1,I picked match
Lille vs Lyon played Friday Nov 18 ,2016 at 19:45 (Forum Time)

This event can be accessed here: https://sportsbet.io/sports/pre-live/soccer-france-ligue-1/osc-lille-v-olympique-lyonnais/event/9539793?ref=tipster8

Lille vs Lyon
Asian Handicap Main line: Lyon 0
Starts Friday at 19:45
Odds: @1.80
Stake:0.015 BTC (15.00mBTC)
Potential Win :0.027 BTC (27 mBTC)

Here is the proof of this bet:


Why I chose this :
Lyon is more stronger and in form at the moment than Lille and it has full
chance to win the match. Lille may not be able to contribute in goals so
if Lille reacts unexpected way then draw is where this match will have an end.
lille and lyon both in terrible form , start this season with very bad performance. both still looking for more points , and i guess both wouldn't win easily , a draw might could have higher chance to happened, so instead to bet moneyline i would like to place bet for both teams to score. however goodluck with your pick Wink
2184  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: November 16, 2016, 01:54:48 PM
keeps me coming back from gambling I guess when I want to revenge and I want to get back what I lose. And I also want the excitement in this kind of game, but I know when to stop in the gambling form betting because I don't really want to lose a lot of money because of this.  Grin

Maybe a lot of people are always doing the same thing you did because of the same reason you always want recover all your loss which is supposedly hard to make possible . And because of that , there are instamces that you are losing more and more money meaning to say the amount of your money loss in gambling is definitely increasing which makes it more impossible to retrieve .
That is a good point, in my opinion this demonstrates the importance of accepting some losses, those more difficult to recover, and moving forward...
that's true , people mostly so hard to moving on. losing after losing they can't accept it , the result would be chasing all the previous losing money and turn wild in betting , in most case those people who do this continuously become poor / banckrupt due have no control .
It's the recipe for disaster, you will not lose much if you won't chase bets and you have a control in gambling if you will not be affected easily when you are down big. Controlling our emotion in gambling is necessary so if we do not have the capacity to do that we better not gambling at all.

What is needed in gambling is discipline and only those who have discipline will last and enjoy and they will come back for good not for revenge.
discipline are sounds like not appropriate word paired to a bad things like gambling, no matter how discipline you are in gambling i guess the result would be almost same for everyone , yeah another bad things always waiting in the end. people should remember on this , and they might wouldn't keep chasing and back to gamble.
2185  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Soccer Transfer Market 2016/2017 ! on: November 16, 2016, 01:42:02 PM
coutinho so far didn't show his desire to win a lot of title, there's no reason for him to leave as he can be a liverpool legend , but yeah there' a fact that win few title only makes some player mean nothing. coutinho don't want to be one of them.

Where do you get this quote from? So far from what I've known, winning a trophy is every players dream no matter what sport you are into so coutinho will want to win one as well. He might leave even when liverpool win the trophy as there is no point for him to stay in liverpool unless he wants to follow gerrard's step
if you noticed from the first time coutinho joined liverpool and being a rising star at liverpool he never complain about winning trophy, he even always say want to win atrophy with liverpool before leaving , so i draw conclusion that coutinho will not move anywhere before gets a lot of trophies enough for liverpool , that's why i said like that.
2186  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Europa League/Champions League Lounge on: November 16, 2016, 01:30:27 PM
Leicester City have no chances of achieving anything substantial in this season of the Premier League. I don't even think that they have any chances of getting in the top 5 spots. The best they could do this season is to not get relegated. Last season was an odd one and Leicester City just got very, very lucky that's all. I bet they will be focusing more on the Champions League.

That's a hard proposition and the best they can do in the CL might be to get in up to the quarter finals.  The best thing they can do right now is to concentrate in the League Cup, if they're still in it as I haven't been following it, and the FA Cup.  And maybe at least try to finish in the top 10 in the EPL or maybe get in the Europa League spots would be a good achievement for them this season.  Let's face it, last season was a fluke.
i always believe on something like miracle , last season leicester prove it by won the english premier league unexpectedly. they could repeat it on different story , champions league! nothing impossible , especially when we are talking about football right?

You know I would honestly love to be proven wrong in this case.  But I just don't see it happening.  They will be going up against clubs like Bayern, Dortmund, PSG, Juventus, Real and Barca.  Not even Man City can pull a miracle against them.

But who knows, it's a different format, they might make if somehow.  Just like that year when Chelsea won the CL under Di Matteo.  I kept laughing when Torres scored a goal against Barca of all teams.  Cheesy
aaand there is still a possibility big teams eliminated in early stage like in quarter final then it would make leicester way to reach the final and even win the champions league title, more than possible isn't it? come on man this is football, something beautiful always created and happened time to time .
2187  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: November 16, 2016, 01:06:52 PM
yes i also don't like gambling,but i have little gambling habit and some time i try to bet on soccer or cricket,but i don't like casinos or poker sites.

Well, that means you consider gambling not a sickness, I can see that you are into sports betting and I think you are a sports aficionado. But anyway, I am sure that gambling is not a sickness since a gambler could get away from it without a pain. Most gamblers know that, only that they are not yet ready to get out.
Whatever type of gambling you are in but you will not behave the way you should be behaving then probably you will end up blaming gambling for your mistakes. The mere fact that gambling is very entertaining and that's what we are looking for, we will easily be affected and our emotion will let us play what we got which is supposedly not to be done.
gambling is a sickness when you are out of control start to gamble everything like a mad and really not care about anything inlclude something important like your family, wife and child's life. it's not entertaining anymore but yeah a sickness.
2188  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is the more risky option? gambling in casino or joining HYIP? on: November 14, 2016, 09:28:16 AM

Never invest with hype, it will just take your money, it was design that way so do not get fooled of the good return. Put in mind that the better the return the riskier it was as an investment. Always put in mind that it's better to invest safely even slow income as long as steady.

Actually invest in hyip is more like to win the lottery as they are offering so high return percentage which impossible to get from normal type of business, that is the reason it attract the people more to make invest into that kind of programs even most of them are aware they are going to lose their money.
everything that offering you something that 'too good to be true' are actually scam , be smart to choose a place to invest. HYIP are the biggest bullshit you shouldn't deal with. gambling are far better , and have a fun factor on there.
2189  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: November 14, 2016, 08:30:41 AM
Gambling is in fact a hobby of rich persons which they use for various purposes and fun is one of them. If I was rich I was off course doing gambling because for me it is not to make money since I was already having lot of money. It is poor which gamble to become rich watching rich playing gamble they think it is way of becoming rich.
I too think a rich man will not gamble as he will be having many other opportunities to entertain himself, still they may find some time to gamble but definitely not regularly. But when people are occasionally watching them they get the wrong lessons like they were becoming rich only due to gambling and poor people also want to copy what they did.
gambling are not always about money , i even see there a lot of rich people gambling rather than poor people. it's indicates on how people keep gambling even they are rich already. things make gambling be a big problem on someone life precisely due there is poor people trying to become rich through gamble.
2190  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: November 14, 2016, 07:07:13 AM
It is really important to use only limited amounts in gambling if you want to be safe. But still not safe because you will only lose your money. It doesn't depend whatever experience you have, whether you're just a newbie or pro, unsafe is existed. Just control yourself, you should know when to stop.
Yes self-control is safe way to gamble. We have to know when to stop in a gamble because if we know when to stop gambling we could keep the advantage and also keep it from subsequent defeat. Besides limiting bets are also a safe way so as not to gamble with the rest of our money because it would be detrimental.
it's really not easy to control over yourself in gambling , only few people can do that. also you know what the meaning of safe method to gamble? it's like a joke when you want a safe method in a risk game like gambling. it's just a delusion when someone want a safe method in gambling.
2191  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: November 14, 2016, 06:28:12 AM
for this situation, I think we can compare  Zinadine Zidane and Ryan Giggs. When Zidane manage Real Madrid, in the first year he get a champions league with that players. And now with manchester united play in under champions league competition called Europa League, with their squad now they can win the europa league with Ryan Giggs.

Ryan giggs should be much better coach compared with mourinho however Im pretty sure that the reason why manchester united doesnt give ryan giggs the chance to be the next coach is probably they dont want to sack ryan giggs incase he is doing bad so they still let him learn at this moment however mourinho definitely needs to be changed
that was a good way to think about how manchester united treat ryan giggs , but in my opinion it's pretty clear a big team like manchester united won't to hire a manager that not have experience enough like ryan giggs , he must have spent a lot of time enough to manage a club then back to united later. so far i see skybet provide an odds for mourinho to leave 20/1 pretty high  Roll Eyes

That is probably the reason why he is not the coach until today. Obviously manchester united got a good eye for talent so giggs talent wont be wasted just like that so they are still giving some time for giggs to learn . The chances for mourinho to be sacked will be quite high if their performance is still bad until the boxing day
yeah makes sense , giggs wouldn't be appointed by manchester united management until he has managed several clubs at least. and show his quality , jose mourinho to leave manchester united for now seems like wouldn't happened , manchester united would give him two or four months left at least to decide whether he stay or leave.
2192  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Soccer Transfer Market 2016/2017 ! on: November 14, 2016, 05:43:43 AM
The premier league has more stars per team when compared to other leagues, I dont think Coutinho will leave for Spain tho, i think he enjoys the league but he may be tempted to play with Neymar if they have the chance. They have been friends for a long time
Yeah sometimes friendship could be a main factor for a player moving to another team, e.g David Luiz with Thiago Silva and Zlatan with Maxwell. Well if Liverpool dont win any title in this season, then I think Coutinho will leave Liverpool for real.


That's a fair assessment.  But imho, he shouldn't leave just yet and give it one more season after this if ever they don't win anything.  Do you remember when Bale left for Real Madrid because Tottenham only finished 5th?  If he hadn't left there was a big chance they would finish top 4 under Andre Villas Boas as the team would still have some stability.  When Bale left, they acquired around 6 new players in and this affected their style and stability on the pitch.  There was just too many new faces in the team and it was like they were trying to find their form all over again.
the simpson confirmed already that liverpool wouldn't win any title in 2016 season lol . coutinho so far didn't show his desire to win a lot of title, there's no reason for him to leave as he can be a liverpool legend , but yeah there' a fact that win few title only makes some player mean nothing. coutinho don't want to be one of them.
2193  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online Gambling vs Real Gambling on: November 14, 2016, 03:33:26 AM
Someone told me they just banned online gambling in the Philippines

Online gambling is ban in Philippines but I don't think bitcoin online gambling is covered with it. Because the government is not even considering and thinking that bitcoin has value. They are just referring into the online gambling or the famous e-games. So I think, bitcoin gambling industry will not be affected with the ban.
yes restriction to use internet is not affected of this online gambling they just stop operation for e games but internet still on and
we can play online gambling still using our bitcoin in the Philippines keep enjoying our favorite games. its still enjoyable and risk
free unlike real gambling that you are going to be afraid of having possible threat to your life if you win big.
there always a good and bad side on everything in this life. take a good one and take care on a bad side. indeed if you won a big amount you would feel insecure once you leaving the casino but with money in your hand you can always handle almost every single problem , in this case you can hire a security service around you so there's nothing to worry left. online gambling for me just to spend my free time , real casino always much more fun and better.
2194  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Europa League/Champions League Lounge on: November 14, 2016, 03:10:39 AM
Leicester City have no chances of achieving anything substantial in this season of the Premier League. I don't even think that they have any chances of getting in the top 5 spots. The best they could do this season is to not get relegated. Last season was an odd one and Leicester City just got very, very lucky that's all. I bet they will be focusing more on the Champions League.

That's a hard proposition and the best they can do in the CL might be to get in up to the quarter finals.  The best thing they can do right now is to concentrate in the League Cup, if they're still in it as I haven't been following it, and the FA Cup.  And maybe at least try to finish in the top 10 in the EPL or maybe get in the Europa League spots would be a good achievement for them this season.  Let's face it, last season was a fluke.
i always believe on something like miracle , last season leicester prove it by won the english premier league unexpectedly. they could repeat it on different story , champions league! nothing impossible , especially when we are talking about football right?
2195  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: November 14, 2016, 03:02:39 AM
keeps me coming back from gambling I guess when I want to revenge and I want to get back what I lose. And I also want the excitement in this kind of game, but I know when to stop in the gambling form betting because I don't really want to lose a lot of money because of this.  Grin

Maybe a lot of people are always doing the same thing you did because of the same reason you always want recover all your loss which is supposedly hard to make possible . And because of that , there are instamces that you are losing more and more money meaning to say the amount of your money loss in gambling is definitely increasing which makes it more impossible to retrieve .
That is a good point, in my opinion this demonstrates the importance of accepting some losses, those more difficult to recover, and moving forward...
that's true , people mostly so hard to moving on. losing after losing they can't accept it , the result would be chasing all the previous losing money and turn wild in betting , in most case those people who do this continuously become poor / banckrupt due have no control .
2196  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: November 14, 2016, 02:35:54 AM
Experience is what will you make stop when you winning or loosing at some moment of the day, those makes difference usually at sportings bets, you take a lower risk with experience. Sometimes i do believe lucky will affect the result, but experience has an important rule into the gambling zone.
to me i think experience in gambling really matter and specially in sports gambling. as in sports gambling if you have good knowledge about the team or the player then you can also good a good result in gambling.
experience could always help you in certain situation in gambling for me , when you come first time to a casino you have no idea what to do just stake money and do it repeatedly until you lost all your money but with experience you would know what the first thing to do even before you start gamble you know you have to have a plan , set a limit etc. this would give you a big difference to get a good result in gambling..
2197  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: International Games Prediction Thread on: November 14, 2016, 02:26:17 AM
Belgium scored 8 goals in total and portugal scored 4 goals. Ronaldo missed a penalty again when he supposed to have an easy hattrick. It has been many time that I see ronaldo failed to score from a penalty . He should had over 95 % chance to success during a penalty because he had so used to score from there
i didn't expect estonia humiliated by belgium with that big score 8-1 , i thought belgium would win like 3-0 only . too bad , one goal from latvia make belgium cleansheet stopped at 3. the matchday are insane when all weak teams play together in a day against big teams like portugal vs latvia , hungary vs andorra all have a lot of goals scored.
2198  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: November 14, 2016, 01:27:12 AM
for this situation, I think we can compare  Zinadine Zidane and Ryan Giggs. When Zidane manage Real Madrid, in the first year he get a champions league with that players. And now with manchester united play in under champions league competition called Europa League, with their squad now they can win the europa league with Ryan Giggs.

Ryan giggs should be much better coach compared with mourinho however Im pretty sure that the reason why manchester united doesnt give ryan giggs the chance to be the next coach is probably they dont want to sack ryan giggs incase he is doing bad so they still let him learn at this moment however mourinho definitely needs to be changed
that was a good way to think about how manchester united treat ryan giggs , but in my opinion it's pretty clear a big team like manchester united won't to hire a manager that not have experience enough like ryan giggs , he must have spent a lot of time enough to manage a club then back to united later. so far i see skybet provide an odds for mourinho to leave 20/1 pretty high  Roll Eyes
2199  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2018 World Cup qualifications, UEFA zone, discussion and information thread on: November 10, 2016, 12:11:39 PM
EUROPE: World Cup - Qualification :

San Marino vs Germany => it will be an easy game for Germany team , it will be like a training game .
France vs Sweden   =>  France will be favorited in Home and with a good players like Griezman , Pogba , payet and Kante .
Romania vs Poland => It will be a difficult game for both teams , and i think there are many goals in this game and Poland will be the winner

I completely agree with one exception. I do not think that Romania v Poland will be having a lot of goals. I think it will be a close win for Poland with less goals, like a 0 -1 or 1 -2.
Also I would like to bet that Germany will make at least 6 goals.
I also bet on Wales v Serbia where Serbia will win,  Spain v Macedonia where Spain will win and Liechtenstein v Italia where Italia will make it.
it's tomorrow games right? the odds for germany vs san marino over 5.5 goals a little bit low @1.5 , however today games are CONMEBOL qualification zone , there is brazil vs argentina - uruguay vs ecuador and colombia vs chile these three big match worth to bet ! my double chance and draw no bet for brazil , ecuador and chile!
2200  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2016/17 on: November 10, 2016, 12:01:44 PM
Who win the Liga? (updated)

Barcelona    at quote@1.75
Real Madrid at quote@2.50
At.  Madrid at quote@8.50


Usual struggle to 3 in  Liga. I think that the injury of Iniesta is likely to affect it and can therefore favored Real Madrid
gap points between Barcelona and Real Madrid is not too high that's why both teams still the most candidate as usual and every season the odds for them will not so different but i was wondering that why the odds Real Madrid more high rather than Barcelona although they in the first rank currently

but atletico madrid always better in number of goals conceded every season , so far they conceded 8 goals only. this means once barcelona or real madrid get slipped and atletico madrid leading on top of table high possibility atletico madrid will defend it till the end , so i believe atletico madrid still have a high chance to win la liga .
i think the reason why Barcelona odds are lower evenwhen Real Madrid is Leading because real madrid will be facing a series of difficult games like Atletico Madrid Barcelona Valencia too can be a pain and Sevilla with those teams it's expected from Madrid to drop some points and that can make Barcelona take the lead and if Atletico won over RM the next match they will get back to the competition
yeah that's true , after that hard games and real madrid won all the games i guess the odds would dropped back not far around barcelona odds. i just have a lot of faith on atletico madrid they are still able to shocking the rivals real madrid and barcelona to lift the la liga trophy like what they have did back in 2013–2014 season.
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