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2221  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: November 05, 2016, 08:31:46 AM
If you already win, don't play more or you will just end up losing. Control yourself from both winning and losing. Don't be greedy if you are winning. And control youself from betting more if your lossing. Also set a target profit everytime you play. A profit which is possible to obtain. That will help you to get greedy.

Indeed this is good advice it is good to stop when someone is on winning streak but it is very hard decision, if we learn how to control our emotions to play on online gambling site than it is really good for a person, because greedy person has no life in gambling.
The problem is that when we win and then stop gambling, in our stomach we will always feel like we did a mistake because we left something that was giving profits. If we just find a way to control this then surely we all can gamble, win some and stop forever Tongue

This happens with every gambler and hence one must control their emotions while playing. If you get a big win, stop immediately and cash out your winnings. Otherwise you may get enticed to gamble your winnings and will end up losing more than you win.
each person might have different perspective about this smart way to gamble , and for me personally i agree with you when you make a withdrawal everytime you are in profit it's the real smart way to gamble . also don't get hurt caused gambling could be categorized as smart way too.
2222  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: November 05, 2016, 07:46:09 AM
In my opinion gambling becomes addiction because of if i have been losing it make me curious and that is make me addiction of gambling.

It drags me to gamble too, but also important reason why i and other gamblers gamble is because they can earn a lot of money this way even if it's risky
The exact problem is with me also, when I quit gamble after giving some huge losses I decide that ok enough but then I think hey I ended on a loosing streak, maybe the wins were on the door knocking and that makes me bet more and more, if lost I think ok maybe next and if I win then well,who ends while winning ?
i frequently end my game session while in profit , but a couple minutes ago i have played blackjack and roulette on fortunejack turn a little amount of 4.5 mbtc to almost 80 mbtc as i think it was extra money i keep doubling the bet amount , unfortunately this time i didn't have luck enough to stop while in profit , usually if i play with non-extra money i withdraw the whole bitcoin immediately , in my case i feel i'm not addicted as the reason why gambling addicting are the feeling you get when tempted to get more additional money and to chase the losing money.
2223  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: November 05, 2016, 07:27:59 AM

If Man United plans to sell the German in the January transfer window then it would make sense to let him play a few games.

It is totally not worth it, he is no longer the same person as few years ago and he is only worth few millions pounds now . The reason that he was left out of the squad was because he had injury before otherwise he could still be a regular player on the team, as van gaal always had him as one f his first option

Mou is different from Van Gaal, it is not a guarantee that Bastian will play regularly in Mou's era even though he is fit. Mou is so bad in selecting starting XI this season, he cant find the best strategy for MU till this time. He is not the special one anymore. That's all..

That may or may not be true depending on how you see their current predicament.  But let me ask you, what starting XI would be good for Man United right now that would perform well or at least be decent week in and week out?
i think the problem aren't on how select the best starting XI but on how mourinho create a good atmosphere on the pitch, in dressing room and in training session which we may have already know he is temperamental compared to sir alex ferguson who have a warm personality. that's the difference in my version.
2224  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2016/17 on: November 05, 2016, 06:24:24 AM
Granada vs Deportivo La Coruna both team playing poor every season cause why i've a feel the match possibility end with no goals. i choose a bet on under 2.5 goals.

Actually when there are two lame team playing against each other, the chances for both of those team to score few goals is actually quite huge so instead it shouod be over 2.5 goals and granada hasa higher chance to win because they have the home advantage over deportivo in this match
yeah i think so , as what makes both weak are due terrible bad defense and the result would be quiet a lot of goals scored. it's more reasonable to bet on both teams to score or over 2.5 goals yeah i agree. both teams to score and over 2.5 goals has a high odds , i consider it as a trapp odds .
2225  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: November 05, 2016, 06:07:05 AM
Hamburger vs Borussia Dortmund i remember hamburger have history not lose in one season when play at home ground, that's why i take a risk to bet on them. hamburger +1.5

Lately Borussia Dortmund unpredictable a lot of their game results do not match expectations do not know what the cause
their performance also continues to decline perhaps more focus to UEFA or are there other things  I would avoid this bet

They were always quite unpredictable recently however not really on a good run however their performance is actually quite bad to be honest so instead of having to worry that they might win this match, people should be relaxed about it as hamburger +1.5 should actually be a good bet for this match
even though dortmund play inconsistently in the last 8 matches sometimes lost , sometimes won and mostly draw 5D , 1L and 2W. not really a good records but i believe this time against a team on position 18th no way they have to get another draw and even i predict the match would be over 2.5 goals and 2 winning goals difference.
2226  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: how much amount of bet you prefer? on: November 05, 2016, 05:42:12 AM
The big ammount i do play with bitcoin is just 0,01bitcoins, soo i usually split a bit of those ammount between the bets i do make, but i dont like to gamble or risk anything above those value, as i know i usually do loose in the short period.
That was a good practice for you to manage those amounts only to play on gambling . Then when you added above that amount it is because on greediness .Spending big amount have a both advantage and disadvantagaes but you must ready if what happens if you lose .I have a big time friends who gambles big amounts big lose and sometimes big wins .
for some people 10 mbt or 0.01 bitcoin are pretty small amount to bet , but well we have different economy power . so better to gamble not more than 30% of your total earnings. don't try to push the limit and keep smile even you lost don't try to chase it .
2227  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: November 05, 2016, 05:25:10 AM
i think it is a simple money addiction to loss for best time pass for rich category person . so anyone if will became rich than he will gamble and whether he will loss or found he will just enjoy this game .

not anyone i guess because there is a people that don't want to gamble if they were rich. but for me, if i am rich, i only gamble for fun and to enjoy the games and not for the money. no matter if i am loss or win, i still enjoy the gamle.
Me too, I will not use my money in gambling to earn also money. I will just use it for enjoyment because once I become rich I wanted to build my own business and not to gamble all of the money I have in my pocket. Because I know that gambling is very addictive and dangerous at the same time.

We respect your decision bro,

For me I play gambling for both fun and also for
the money that I might get from my winnings.

Yeah Gambling is so addicting That is why we should limit
our selves on the amount of time and money that we put at stake.
All of us really wants to win every part of a game, who does not want to win? Right? No one I guess.
But more gamblers are always losing in their game especially to those who don't know how to control and manage themselves especially with their financial. They need to be more responsible when they want to play gambling.
the key are to be a responsible gambler , no matter you were poor or rich if you gamble with this way i mean responsibly , there's nothing to worry about to keep gambling in the rest of your life. treat gambling as a real entertainment , making money through gambling would never work n matter how much you have tried.
2228  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: High bet amounts or low bet amounts? What is your style? on: November 03, 2016, 12:59:51 PM
I prefer doing a series of low bets and then followed by a high bet. The amount of my "high bet" would depend on the loss streak that I have. Doing low amount of bets will prevent us from being bankrupt too early. A series of loss of low bet amounts is just equal to one loss of high bet amount. I usually just double or triple my bet amount when there's a losing streak so I can recover all of my past losses in one win.
it seems like you are always trying to chasing your previous lost bets don't you? isn't a good choice to bet high amount just to chase your losses , it could lead you to bigger losses and so on, i have learned all about it. just do stake money that you can afford to lost so it wouldn't be a problem if you bet high amount too as long as you think you can afford to lost that money.
It works for me. Of course I'm not going to bet an amount that I cannot afford to lose. What's the point of betting low amount if I would bet something I cannot afford to lose, right? I just wasted my time then. I actually studied the strategy of the player that earns the most in bustabit. I looked at it and noticed that it is what's he's doing. Of course his "low amount" is far different from my "low amount" but that's okay. Both share the same strategy so I guess both can profit but different amounts.
so how much you think your highest bet amount but you can still afford to lose? just curious .... say it on percentage , i mean how much percentage of your total bankroll. then i can see how could you chasing your previous lost and you say it's work right?
2229  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: November 03, 2016, 12:38:08 PM

The meltdown at United may pave way for a cup drought that could last a decade.  No manager is gonna want to work at the club after Mourinho, I think.

There will be alot of managers that wants to try to handle manchester united. If mourinho the special one fail in manchester united that doesnt mean everyone else gonna fail as well. At worst situation even if it is really that no managers want to coach manchester united, they still have ryan giggs

I meant no good manager that's considered elite, backed by an excellent resumé would be willing to take the helm at United.  As for Ryan Giggs, he has left the club as far as I know and I don't think United would want to hire him unless they had no choice.
yeah currently no classy manager that on free from managing club or nation. in case mourinho get sacked soon i don't know who will be the caretaker as ryan giggs has left manchester united when mourinho contracted. but i believe ryan giggs could be like zidane in real madrid not have much experience in managing a club before but have a high potential so far to become the most successfull real madrid manager .
2230  Other / Archival / Re: Which one is better for bitcoin future? Mass adoption or huge price increase? on: November 03, 2016, 12:27:42 PM
This two should go together, i guess. Because how can a bitcoins' price remains low if there is no mass adoption, right?. Same as how can a bitcoin's price  continue to increase if only few people know about bitco8n or if only few are using them.  Mass adoption is a great way for huge price increase.

So the basic thing is that mass adoption is what really matters for bitcoin, because if there is no adoption at all the price might grow but it wont grow as much as it would if there will be mass adoption, that is why mass adoption is the most important thing bitcoin needs to progress.
i agree with these both things should run together as both are same important and needed each other. huge price increase happened already several times but look at now , there still few store accept bitcoin. mass adoption needed here. once there a lot of company adopt bitcoin it would automatically drive bitcoin price increased too.
2231  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The House always wins. on: November 03, 2016, 12:17:41 PM
Crypto betting sites only have low house-edge but what makes the house winning is because of longevity and deeper pocket. That 1% low house edge will matter when you play hundreds or thousand times. Please bear in mind that people should bet for entertainment purposes except when you are a professional poker player, etc.

The good news is that some of these casinos accept investors. Currently I am investing with decent returns while sometimes playing.
in the long run yeah there is no way to beat the house unless there is someone who play and get straight win with extremely lucky on them. so yeah better to bet alongside the house by investing on it. as you have know about this house always win.
2232  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: November 03, 2016, 12:08:38 PM
In my opinion gambling becomes addiction because of if i have been losing it make me curious and that is make me addiction of gambling.

It drags me to gamble too, but also important reason why i and other gamblers gamble is because they can earn a lot of money this way even if it's risky
to chase the losing money in previous bets are one of many reason why. gambling addicting also due the way you get fun and get money so easy ( when you win ) an addiction always come from an excessive activity , the same applies to gambling. don't gamble too often and always control your bankroll you would get addicted too quick maybe..
2233  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: NEver keep all your coins on an exchange on: November 03, 2016, 11:55:14 AM
So Coinbase is risky to keep btc in then? I have my btc in their wallet.

It doesn't really matter what kind of exchange or wallet service you are using to store your coins in. In all cases you don't own what you actually have as the exchange or wallet service has full control over your coins. Coinbase is well insured against thefts and all that, but even while knowing that, I would never store my coins at any place beside offline where I have full control over every Satoshi that I own.

So what offline wallet do you recommend?
never be a good idea to store your bitcoin in third party like an online wallet and exchange , it's okay if you stored low amount only just to spend daily purpose. but if you talking a large amount storing your bitcoin on an exchange in the long term really a blunder it's has proven on how mtgox , cryptsy and bitfinex claimed hacked it should be a good example.
2234  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Best site/method to turn 0.005 into 0.1? on: November 03, 2016, 11:42:51 AM
Hello people of Bitcoin Talk! I want to get your opinion on what is the best way to turn 0.005 into 0.1 gambling. What is the best site and method?
i have done this before , go up from 0.005 x 2 = 0.01 x 2 = 0.02 x 2 = 0.04 x 2 = 0.08 nad withdraw all of them immediately. you just need to sit down and click alink on my signature . there is a lot of live casino games ,

1. i do choose to play live roulette first placed bet on red or black
2. switch game to baccarat
3. switch again to play sic-bo
4. final game i played blackjack

goodluck! and have fun!

*this is not 100% guaranteed winning strategy
2235  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Difference between Bitcoin and real money? on: November 03, 2016, 11:33:59 AM
Bitcoin is much better than real money... Why? Because:

-the real money doesn't grow itself, while bitcoin's value could grow wildly.
-own a paper wallet, two simple codes can hold as much money as you want.
-bitcoin is not owned by anyone, it means no taxes, no rules, no cries.
the contrast difference between bitcoin and real (fiat) money are while real money ruled out by government and bitcoin decentralized as you have pointed out there is no taxes and no ruler. it's feel like a freedom of economy.
2236  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: November 03, 2016, 11:27:07 AM
Trading without any knowledge is betting on your luck so that makes it not much difference from gambling as you dont have control over the results. However, if you do your research and trade with high chance of success, you can gain easily.

This is very unusual that a person is going to enter trading without knowledge but we can't deny that there are some incidents that are happening that way. Trading is really a gambling because of the risk you are going to take as you gamble then that is going to be a hard way to get some assured profit and investments are risky as gamble is.

In most gambling activities (except poker, betting) players don't have any control over the outcome or can only make decisions that will minimize their loss, since the house edge is always there. In trading it all depends on your analytical skills, hence why it's a real profession and millions of traders are employed be companies all over the world.
sometimes trading are feel like gambling , but not really frequently. that's why maybe people considering trading as gambling. but it wouldn't be a benchmark that trading are equal to gambling , there is a lot of things make both trading and gambling different and you should consider it too.
Yes both are different. In trading we need more knowledge but in gambling if you don't have knowledge also you can play. But in trading you can expect some profit. It will work out . In gambling the profit is depend on luck. if you have luck you will make money. So here no guarantee for your investment. My choice is Trading.
nahhh when you have no knowledge in trading and force yourself to do trade with zero experience just guessing the price , this moment are what i call sometimes trading feel like gambling . don't you agree with this?

It is exactly as you wrote! New users read that trading is the best way to make money. They forget to decipher that to one could make money, someone else must lose. It is a free market, there is never anything for free.
Without the experience and knowledge of trading it is just gambling.
i take a rare case as example , as i believe those people who trading without knowledge will never repeat it for many attempts. that's why i say 'sometimes' too as time goes by people would start learning and do trading properly , not random guessing price that could considered as pure gambling.
2237  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: November 03, 2016, 11:15:35 AM

You cannot be wrong if you understand gambling as a way of making money as that can be our purpose to gamble. It is our own money so we have the freedom to do what we want to do as long as we are responsible enough to accept the possible loses because gambling is all about winning and losing and more on losing.

Lossing and  more  lossing  on  doing gambling  is  just a  normal thing thats why  we should  be aware  on the things  might   happen  or  result on the  long run when we intend to play gambling.  This  is  not actually wrong  on  playing gambling  as  long we dont compromise  our  money too  much  and   we really should  have  self control on playing  this games.
Yeah , the only wrong on playing gambling is when you let yourself be addicted on gambling and all your money goes into gambling ,obligations to your family time for them are gone .It is also similar on controling yourself not to get addicted .too much is bad just make your life with your family balance nothing will bad on it.
people should be fine in gambling if they really knows their limit , don't gamble too much that you can't afford to to lost and simply responsible when you gambling. however greedy are the thing make gambling turn wrong , it's indeed human nature but if you could control over it yeah nothing to worry .
Well yeah gambling is pretty much safe when you know how to be disciplined while doing it. Too much gambling can and will cause addiction and will take up a lot of your time and money that can be spent in things that matter more.
just relax when you lost money in gambling , as you have prepared to bet only the amount that you can afford to lose , with this way gambling are totally have no wrong. and people could really enjoying their game .
2238  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your gambling strategy on: November 03, 2016, 11:01:20 AM
I just separated my gambling wallet from my rest of the funds and that is biggest achievement I see for me. I helped me a lot to control loss though I am not in any at the moment. There is no strategy to win continuously in gambling but having limited your fund is good strategy to play with some planing like when to stop and how much to go with in case.

Well , good thing thqt you are setting yourself a limitation in case that you are going to gamble you are right , it is the best way to control or avoid huge loss of your money . Separating all your funds would be the best solution just in case that you want to avoid huge loss and you don't wamt to get bankrupt .
me too ,only thing i do is seperate my funds in one wallet i transfer some of my funds into other adress to play some gambking and i also limit myself for how much i will only invest to play whatever happens i don't invest again on that day except the amount that i invest.

the hardest part on to set a goal and losing limit are when you have to do it consistently as based on my personal experience this is not an easy task. as our human nature feeling always say keep playing man keep playing you need more money .... just like that . it was the biggest challenge.
2239  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: November 03, 2016, 10:14:43 AM
Trading without any knowledge is betting on your luck so that makes it not much difference from gambling as you dont have control over the results. However, if you do your research and trade with high chance of success, you can gain easily.

This is very unusual that a person is going to enter trading without knowledge but we can't deny that there are some incidents that are happening that way. Trading is really a gambling because of the risk you are going to take as you gamble then that is going to be a hard way to get some assured profit and investments are risky as gamble is.

In most gambling activities (except poker, betting) players don't have any control over the outcome or can only make decisions that will minimize their loss, since the house edge is always there. In trading it all depends on your analytical skills, hence why it's a real profession and millions of traders are employed be companies all over the world.
sometimes trading are feel like gambling , but not really frequently. that's why maybe people considering trading as gambling. but it wouldn't be a benchmark that trading are equal to gambling , there is a lot of things make both trading and gambling different and you should consider it too.
Yes both are different. In trading we need more knowledge but in gambling if you don't have knowledge also you can play. But in trading you can expect some profit. It will work out . In gambling the profit is depend on luck. if you have luck you will make money. So here no guarantee for your investment. My choice is Trading.
nahhh when you have no knowledge in trading and force yourself to do trade with zero experience just guessing the price , this moment are what i call sometimes trading feel like gambling . don't you agree with this?
2240  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Europa League/Champions League Lounge on: November 03, 2016, 09:53:08 AM
Fenerbahce vs Manchester United both teams to score yes @1.90 for tonight's match. I do believe that Fenerbahce will drive this match to be draw between them as it is in its best form at home. Manchester United is lurking and facing inconsistency will be in troubles facing Fenerbahce. I preferred middle way to make bet though.
a draw for fenerbache are more than enough , but a draw for manchester united would be another hard crtitcs for jose mourinho. i'll bet moneyline manchester united @2.1 not much as i'm in doubt too but there is no harm to give a shot on nice odds.
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