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No, I'm rationalizing that unless Theymos is being bribed by Inaba's 0.011 BTC payments to him, theres probably another reason that Inaba isn't banned than the ad revenue.
Perhaps because Josh isn't disruptive or distrubuting malware, which is really the only way to get banned. Whether hes a scammer or not is debatable, and even if he is, you don't get banned for being a scammer, you get negative trust, and in the old days, a scammer tag.
This has been discussed more than enough times, people don't get banned because other people don't like them. They get banned when they are disruptive to everyone else's conversation. And before you start quoting posts where Josh is messing with people, also be sure to quote the confrontation that has lead up to it.
I don't have BFL products, and I never ordered them, nor have I ever really talked to Josh, so I have no opinion of him either way. I do know however, that people like to bait him into being an ass, and then try to quote it as him acting poorly. Sure he gets caught in flame wars, and says stuff that I'm sure he wishes he didn't, however he isn't constantly disruptive.
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Heres a quote taken from another conversation, I bolded the important part. Orrrr he could have been banned for spamming. Also Theymos isn't the only one with the ban hammer. What if it was a global mod who banned him, or a regular mod who requested he be banned who has no access to those tainted ad dollars? For that matter, I'm confused why people keep bringing up the ad revenue as Theymos' "source of corruption". The forum's wallet is public, and you can see that those ad BTC aren't being spent, wouldn't he need to be benefiting from BFL's advertising payments in order for it to be corrupting him? Approximately 25% of the forum's ad revenue is split between the forum's 36+ Staff members. Looking at the last ad auction, had Inaba not bid, the person who would have got his spot bid .75 BTC less per spot than him. That x 3 slots = 2.25 BTC less that the Ad auction would have raised, had Inaba not recieved any slots. 25% of that would have been used for Mod Payments, split at least 36 ways. Do you really think that Theymos is being corrupted by the extra .0156 BTC that Josh's ad purchase gave him? Something just doesn't add up on that front.
There are now 38+ staff members that get 20% split of what was 2.25. I can check the last auctions if you wish, but I'm sure the margines are even smaller since BTC went up. Thats 20% of 2.25 BTC split 38 ways, means at most, Theymos is making 0.011 BTC because of BFL's forum presence. I sure would sell out my community and my own beliefs for $7. |
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Yes, because Theymos should be the all deciding judge of character. If you don't like Inaba, ignore him. If we started playing "vote to ban" there would be no one left here.
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A lot of coins have special features, Litecoin was the first to use Scrypt
Tenebrix was the first to use scrypt, then Fairbrix, and then Litecoin. Are you sure? I remember mining Tenebrix in terms of Megahash. *Edit* Nope, you are right, Tenebrix was Sept 25th 2011, Fairbrix was Oct 2nd 2011, and Litecoin was Oct 9th 2011, and yes they are all scrypt. Anyway, yeah subforums would be lovely, but I don't think we are going to get them. I've lost count of how many times its been asked for. And yes, That is entirely the point of having a single altcoin section. If it's sufficiently inconvienient to discuss altcoins here maybe they'll move to their own forum.
That is the point of not adding features to the Alt Coin section. If you want a place to discuss your coin in depth, to its own forum you should go. |
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bump a buh dump ah dump trump!
Edit: theymos do i need to post this is in the supper dupper VIP support forum you said waz just for VIPz?
I think you would probably have the best luck in Meta  I'm actually not sure, but if you want to find out, I'll post in your thread after you have blocked it, and we can find out. |
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Was expecting complaints, but this is much better, Merry Christmas to you as well.  |
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I'm also interested, however pictures, brands, etc is information that I too require.
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while you can, I wouldn't recommend it. Laptops generally aren't meant to handle the amount of heat that mining creates, so I would only advise mining on a laptop you don't care about burning out in a few months. The problem with that, is if you don't care about it, chances are it isn't good enough to mine much anyway.
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If I will ever try to teach my mom about how to use a wallet , I'll end up in a mental facility before I manage to teach her.
So , from my point of view you can't really consider something being difficult unless you also take into account what drives you to use that thing.
Isn't bitcoin 10 times harder to use than PP ? But there is some incentive to do that , and with tpb(piratebay) domains falling one after other .... I think you get my point.It won't be as harder in the future to set the the .bit dns up , considering the benefits.
Also , I specifically said in my post "prove that it works" regarding to alt coins. Because when speaking about their features , you have used past tense for most of them.
Very true, I've had nothing but resistance trying to teach people about Bitcoin, I agree it has a pretty steep learning curve, and if you aren't technically savvy coming in, you have little to no hope. However, its gotten a lot more user friendly in the last years. Using a .bit domain requires even technically savvy people to jump through hoops, so I'd say it will be a while before they are used. As far as my use of past tense, some it it may have been unintentional, as I was speaking out how they were made in the past. Rucoin has kind of disappeared, as well as Solidcoin, but Litecoin's use of Scrypt has been rather important, Primecoin's use of other hashing algorithms has also been important, as it provides options should any of the existing hashing algorithms be cracked, making it necessary for existing coins to jump to a different hashing algorithm. The proof of stake concept is an interesting one as well with real applications possible, and I believe the concept of Colored Coins was thought of during Alt Coin research, which has been debated thoroughly whether or not it should or could be implemented into the Bitcoin protocol. |
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Wow, what a meltdown. I was like:      I don't see why I was specifically excluded from participation in that thread. Excluding me did nothing to prevent it from become a gargantuan trainwreck. Anways, I hope Crumbs the Christmas Elf will grant my wish and make us a funneh picture of LabKen as Drunken Santa...Pleeze? Crumbs was banned a few days ago, hence his lack of posting. A few others were as well, so I don't think you will get your picture. Also, where were you specifically excluded and by who? You aren't on the naughty list. |
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Namecoin has the alternative dns thingy behind , so it has something special compared to any other coin.
Until somebody comes with something totally new rather than messing with block reward/time and it proves it works , I consider all the alts as day trading activity.
Namecoin has the alternative dns thing which is incredibly difficult to set up, and rather impractical, so no one uses them to buy .bit addresses. A lot of coins have special features, Litecoin was the first to use Scrypt, Solidcoin I believe was the earliest alt coin including a few different features, such as block signing nodes (didn't go over so well). Peercoin was the first Proof of Stake coin iirc, Primecoin uses a completely different algorithm based on prime number chains. Rucoin used a dual blockchain system, allowing you to mine Scrypt or Sha, other coins tinkered with the feasibility of faster confirmations, different block sizes, etc. Whether people believe that Alt Coins have a future vs Bitcoin, or whether they will all be supersceded, its undeniable that Alt Coins have done tremendously in terms of research and exploring the bounds of Crypto Currencies. Thats why I find that no alt coins are stupid, or novelty coins. Dogecoin in particular will test whether Crypto Currencies derive their value solely by being a mathmatically secure form of barter, or whether people can make coins with buzzwords in them for advertising, and gain popularity, value, and therefor usefulness from there. |
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That goes back to the question, What makes a coin a novelty coin? Who would be the one to make the decision whether or not a coin is legitimate or not? Thats a position that no one can make, if you think a coin is a novelty coin, great. Others dont.
I agree that that goes to most altcoins, but a coin based off of an internet meme is clearly a novelty coin. I mean. The coin is based entirely on a joke. If that's not novelty, then I don't know what is. Same for Bernankoin. The coin is clearly satire as the dev would admit. Or KittehCoin. Another joke/meme coin. I get that with most coins the line is very unclear but you have to admit that these are very intended for novelty and fun. And ever since DOGE there has been lots of novelty coins popping out. They're taking lots of space from other alternate crypto. Altcoins already have a bad reputation but this is going even as far to make them into an actual joke. The biggest reason why I think a sub-forum is needed for these coins is that they can be seen as separate from other crypto (even though I think most of the "other crypto" is borderline novelty too). Altcoins have been pretty bad this year but now they're even worse and if this continues (which I believe will if nothing is done about it), they'll become even worse. This whole easy-going and fun mentality is also giving lots of room for more scamming and market manipulation. I'm not asking to make a sub-forum for whatever coins I think are bad, but for the coins that anyone can clearly see as novelty. If a coin is purely built around a joke, internet meme or satire then it is for novelty purposes. Even if it expands to getting traded and all, as long as it's main purpose and status remains around the joke, then it's still a non-serious coin, even if it makes serious profit for certain pumpers and lucky bystanders. What about a joke coin with a higher market cap than Bitcoin? Someone was messing around and bought fractions of Dogecoins for something like $400 each, so the market caps were showing $3 Trillion USD. Even with that sort of fluke, whether its a joke or not, there is serious money being held in doge, which again brings use back to, how do you completely detirmine if a coin is a novelty or not. If there was Stupidcoin, but it had a new POW system, the coins were $1000 per coin, and had a huge userbase, would it still be considered a novelty coin? Theres just no way to enforce a split between alt coins and novelty coins. Its completely up to ones own opinion. You can do that easily by splitting the alt section into 3:
-Namecoin
-Litecoin
-Other.
Why bother separating garbage from junk?
That is opinion as well, what makes Litecoin or Namecoin special? Sure they are amongst the oldest alt coins, but the same goes with Solidcoin/Microcash, Peercoin, Freicoin, Yacoin, and a plethera of other slightly newer coins. I decided a long time ago that I would not be the judge of a coins validity. If its a good idea, people will use it, if its a stupid coin, it will die. No more fair way than that. As long as the creator isn't putting malware into the wallet, I don't care if someone decides to make SUPERULTRABESTCOIN or anything else. |
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I'll be collecting results of this poll in 3 more days.
To null the "it can't be enforced with 100% efficiency" argument, consider starting a poll about threads advertising buying and selling of accounts. It is possible to ban such threads, and ban users starting them. Arguing that "it is better to allow selling accounts because when done in the open, people will know that it is happening" fails on a couple of levels. First, most users don't know that this is happening. The TOS a user signs (not that anyone reads them) don't have a caplock clause "OH, AND BTW, ACCOUNTS ARE BOUGHT AND SOLD HERE, SO AN ESTABLISHED USER IS MOST LIKELY A SOCK ACCOUNT. Tnx." Second, most laws are not enforced with total efficiency. Knowing that some murderers will go unpunished shouldn't be taken as a cue for legalizing murder. Murders can't turn on Tor and 15 proxies in 30 seconds and become completely undetectable. Its openly allowed, because there is a very real possibility that 95+% of it couldn't be stopped. Sure we might catch the occasional moron who posts out in the open, but there would be plenty of people using bitmessage and tormail that could make good money off of bootlegged accounts. As it is now, hopefully people don't see 2 year old accounts as any more trustworthy than new members. If account selling was "banned" then people would start to trust that these old accounts are the original owners, and they should be trusted due to their time commitment. When in reality, they probably just bought the account for $20 on ebay, to pull a scam. |
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That goes back to the question, What makes a coin a novelty coin? Who would be the one to make the decision whether or not a coin is legitimate or not? Thats a position that no one can make, if you think a coin is a novelty coin, great. Others dont.
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Its December 31st in my timezone, only two days left before tons of work  |
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Dank did buy 4.20 BTC off of me a while back, and he paid .420 BTC to Squall that month as payment. Not sure what he has left of that. For the record, Dank did ask to buy more from me recently, but I don't have any spare coins to sell, so I do think hes trying to get ahold of some more coins to pay to Squall. Dank is a strange cat, however I think hes a good guy. I'll know for sure once his debt to Squall is paid off in its entirety. |
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well the magic of copper & keeping the water temp and ecosystem as close to the ocean allows for the least amount of various types of parasites and bacteria so the fish arent sick which costs us more money having to feed and care for the fish for extended periods of time.
well octopuses are easy to get & all ask around for cuttlefishes seeing what i can get.
Yeah, I had seahorses, and keeping the temp at their natural level was key, else they are incredibly suseptible to diseases and live much shorter life spans. You don't treat any fish with copper do you? Tis incredibly deadly for any sealife. Even trace contamination such as handling old pennies and then feeding your fish can mess them up pretty badly. The reason goldfish don't tend to live long, is they are sometimes treated with copper to make them shinier, which burns up their kills, and they slowly suffocate. I had a pirhanna when I was a wee lad, and I fed it goldfish, which ended up killing the pirhanna because of the copper treatment. (Unless magic of copper is completely unrelated to copper and just a name for something else) Anyway, my large tank could probably use a wrasse, and I need to stock a nano reef tank as well. I'll talk to you once I figure out what I'm looking for. |
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I would use him if it was legitimate (and it may be). I can't justify it though. What would be in it for him? He's taking a 10% hit.
That or they found a cheaper source to buy amazon gift cards? I have purchased gift cards here off and on at around 70% of their face value, and I have seen them on Ebay for 80% of their face value after holidays and such. Maybe the OP just takes advantage of situations like that and makes BTC? That or exchange rate advantage. Found someone who will buy the BTC from them at Gox rates, and accept BTC at Bitstamp or similar rates. Lots of ways to make some coin offering a reduced price service with a bit of opportunity. As long as they aren't buying things with a stolen credit card, and using escrow, I don't see why not. |
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Unstickied, Deadline to get your coins out has passed, if you haven't got them out already, good luck.
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