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2241  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - 500k Holiday Giveaway! 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲 on: December 21, 2020, 08:30:17 PM
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2242  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump contradicts Pompeo, claims Russian hack was coordinated by China on: December 21, 2020, 03:17:50 PM
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well if you live in the USA then you have to start getting used to the face of Joe Biden and the Democrats because you will see them for the next long years, and I say long years because without a doubt they will win in the second term. Trump made some mistakes that led to his defeat, even though I don't like international observers because most of the time they close their eyes to serious problems that have happened in the elections of several countries, but it is a fact that in this election Trump lost, and with that pandemic I think that biden is the most appropriate to be president of the USA in my opinion.

the usa will collapse under the corrupt democrats, the euro and russian rouble will become your currencies alongside bitcoin

Hockey and fighting bears will become more popular than baseball.

Americans will drink more vodka than Bud Light.

And no other country will ever win an olympic gold medal.  Except maybe China in ping pong.
2243  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump contradicts Pompeo, claims Russian hack was coordinated by China on: December 21, 2020, 02:48:23 AM
You are assuming that when there are two contradictory statements, that Trump is automatically wrong.

Trump has access to more intelligence than Pompeo and a wider range of people are advising Trump. There is the obvious incentive for Trump to blame China versus Russia for the hack, considering that China is in bed with Biden and the Democrats.

Without concrete evidence one way or another, I would not assume that either party is wrong based solely on their word.

Worth a read if you think Biden is the one in bed with China: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/20/us/trump-taxes-china.html
Having a bank account is not the same as receiving what amounts to bribes from the government/government-related entities. I also understand that Trump had attempted, unsuccessfully to do business in China and ended up not being able to make any money out of China, with all this being before Trump ran for President in 2015.

I know that China invests heavily in technology, and also has a habit of stealing IP. China also tends to use Americans to betray their country and spy on America, and steal American technology.

The article goes into a lot more than simply Trumps Chinese bank account.  But I guess my point is that if you think the evidence of Biden taking bribes/being in bed with China is compelling, and you apply that same thought process to Trump (including his children), then I don't see how you could look at the situation objectively and simultaneously defend Trump while discrediting Biden.  The only explanation is that your political views are dictating the level of scrutiny you give to each politician.

The most glaring point is that literally every argument against Biden is based on the assumption that Joe and Hunter are business partners - which Joe has denied and there is little evidence to support.  I don't think it's impossible they have some sort of secret arrangement, but it appears the most likely situation is that Joe and Hunter are not involved in each others business or political careers.

On the other hand, Trump has 3 children that helped him run his international business for decades until he got elected and gave his daughter and son in law federal jobs and offices in the White House.  I mean, can you imagine what you would be saying if Biden was planning on giving his kid an office in the White House?

I think what might be happening is that you're taking Trumps relationship with his children and assuming that Biden must have a similar one with his.
2244  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump contradicts Pompeo, claims Russian hack was coordinated by China on: December 20, 2020, 07:28:38 AM
You are assuming that when there are two contradictory statements, that Trump is automatically wrong.

Trump has access to more intelligence than Pompeo and a wider range of people are advising Trump. There is the obvious incentive for Trump to blame China versus Russia for the hack, considering that China is in bed with Biden and the Democrats.

Without concrete evidence one way or another, I would not assume that either party is wrong based solely on their word.

Worth a read if you think Biden is the one in bed with China: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/20/us/trump-taxes-china.html
2245  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump contradicts Pompeo, claims Russian hack was coordinated by China on: December 20, 2020, 04:59:24 AM
Trump has once again contradicted intelligence experts to arrive at his own conclusions regarding the recent hack by Russia, saying he not only believes China was responsible for the hack, but that it was somehow tied to the imaginary voting fraud issue he uses to undermine the credibility of his own office.

https://news.yahoo.com/after-days-of-silence-trump-says-russian-cyberattack-may-have-been-china-174556724.html

How do you read something like this tweet and not walk away thinking "that man is probably the biggest piece of shit president of all-time" ?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1340333619299147781

If by now you don't understand that he's just been making this voter fraud "issue" up since 2016, you're either full of shit or very stupid, or both. There's no middle ground here anymore.

Some always trumpers are very smart and looking for trump to stay in power so they can rip off the loyal trumpers that simply follow trumps word.


if you believe the bell curve for iq.

48% of the  population has below a average iq.

so if 43% vote for trump and 10% of the smart people above average vote for trump he wins.

why would smart people want trump they think they can rob the dummies that vote for trump.

no more complicated then this.

The two demos Trump wins by the most in:

- White males with a high school education or less
- People that make over 250k/year
2246  Other / Politics & Society / Re: America was founded against racism, and religious intollerance not for it. on: December 20, 2020, 03:56:28 AM
they found america.. using ships.. with slaves onboard, which they didnt think of as equals
they beached ground and found natives. and treated them with hostility because they were not their equals
once settled. they wanted to cut ties with those not in their new clan

move forward a few hundred years.
and an american republican leader.. wants to build walls to keep non americans out.

doesnt sound like they are happy with those outside of their 'america' and stil not happy with those within america that they deem not equal.

.......
in the 1960's UK didnt like india/pakistan. at the millennium didnt like polish/east euro, then it was middle eastern
US didnt like natives,  then freed africans, then chinese then russians now not mexicans.

all thats changing is who to hate. not the hate itself



You simply don't understand that the only way you can train these heathen savages to not uphold racism, is to make slaves of them first. Why slaves? Because they will simply keep on being heathen savages if you don't enslave them so you can train them. Then, after they are trained, you can free them, and hopefully they won't go back to their heathen savage racism.

Cool

Going to be politically incorrect here and say BADecker is racist.
2247  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump contradicts Pompeo, claims Russian hack was coordinated by China on: December 20, 2020, 03:53:49 AM
I assume anything Pompeo does between now and Jan 20 to be motivated purely by his desire to run for president in 2024/28.
2248  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Kracken! on: December 20, 2020, 03:49:54 AM
Trump floated appointing Sidney Powell, lawyer who promoted conspiracy theories, as special counsel on voter fraud

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-floated-appointing-special-counsel-who-promoted-conspiracy-theories/
Quote
...
Mr. Trump tweeted on November 14 that Powell was part of his "truly great team" filing legal challenges to challenge the election results. Trump campaign attorney Rudy Giuliani also identified her as a member of the legal team, and she appeared with him at a press conference to discuss the campaign's unsubstantiated claims of widespread voter fraud.

Powell promoted a number of baseless conspiracy theories about the election, including that the deceased Hugo Chávez, among others, had rigged the election against Mr. Trump by programming voting machines to switch votes for the president to President-elect Joe Biden. Powell's claims were viewed as far fetched even by typical allies of the president. Fox News host Tucker Carlson said she refused to provide him with any evidence of her claims about vote switching.
...

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1340363388988354570
Quote
During the meeting, the president asked about Flynn’s suggestion of deploying the military, those briefed said. That was also shot down.




wouldn't it be fun if Rudy got to be AG for 3 weeks? He's actually qualified.
2249  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Video Game Addiction, a very real problem. on: December 19, 2020, 07:17:42 PM
It's okay to play games to pass the time. OK for entertainment. Playing games increases intelligence. But the main thing is how long the game is playing. Kids or people of any age have no problem playing it for 30 minutes to 1 hour. If you cross it, you will get addicted. Everything is harmful, whether it is a virtual or artificial game. Everybody is brainwashing us when it comes to virtual games. Be practical, all games are useless except physical games.

Being a hardcore gamer doesn't automatically mean you are addicted. I used to be one several years ago and I still managed to get good grades and have a balanced life. It lasted one and a half a year for me, it was so fun and enjoyable.

And yes, too much of a good thing is a bad thing, so I eventually got bored and I quit my hardcore CS:GO gaming phase.

Just like most things, most people may go through short term addictions to certain things though it will eeb and flow.

But there's always this small group of people who take addiction to the next level and can't control how much they love something. Those are the people who you see on local news at night peeing in buckets and continuing to play while their health degrades and they haven't showered in a week.

Video Games can be addictive, totally. But I think it has much more of a social stigma compared to watching TV, Movies, etc. Video games look worse for some weird reason, when they're a perfectly suitable thing to do in moderation -- just like every other recreational activity people do.


They're also a great way for young people to to develop hand eye coordination, critical thinking skills and in some cases creativity.  I'm currently 'addicted' to Mario Maker 2.  It's basically a combination of 5 different generations of mario (Super Mario Brothers, SMB 3, Super Mario World, New Super Mario Brothers and Mario 3D) where users can create their own levels and upload them for others to play on their own are against others.  Some of the levels people come up with are incredible.
2250  Other / Meta / Re: Claim to the moderator of the Russian section of Xal0lex on: December 19, 2020, 05:08:55 PM
How this thread reads:


2251  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Kracken! on: December 19, 2020, 07:29:22 AM
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/17/gop-legal-war-absentee-voting-georgia-runoffs-447266

For the record, I think mail in ballots is a joke, so yes, I am bias.

BUT - Republicans are pushing hard to limit mail in voting by filing lawsuits. I hope they are successful. If you are legitimately sick, in service overseas, then yes, you should be able to vote by mail. It's different by state, but I'm sure that's the case in Georgia.

COVID is not an excuse for universal mail in voting. If you can go to the grocery store, you can vote. If you can go to the liquor store, you can go vote.

If you take all politics out the equation and agree that more voters = better representation = successful democracy then I think it really does come down to the ratio of [how many more people will vote] : [how many more fraudulent ballots will be cast]

It's not as simple as 'we shouldn't have universal mail in voting bc fraud'.  The fact that there will be millions fewer voters should weigh heavily when forming an opinion and it seems like most people don't even consider that because it's not like the people who would've voted by mail but couldn't and didn't vote in person for whatever reason will ever complain.  But their voices should count the same as yours  At least imo.

And all this is coming from a born and raised republican that has not even considered thinking like this till the past couple years.  I guess i'm a former Repulican really with how things are now.  Weird feeling.


I am for more voters that actually go down the polls and vote. Mail in ballots cause people who would never vote in the first place to vote based on what they saw on CNN. It's easy to coerce someone through mail in voting. 


Try looking at it objectively, without any consideration for how it affects any political party.
2252  Economy / Gambling / Re: Sportsbooks that aren’t paying out on Biden winning the US Presidential Election on: December 19, 2020, 04:13:05 AM
I don't have any skin in the game but am curious what these sites who have already paid out would do if somehow Trump's lawyers worked some sort of legal magic to actually keep him in the white house.  I wonder if they would then pay out the other side of the bet or would even have the reserves left to do so.  Would they then confiscate all the BTC on their platform and disappear, or try to use future user fees to stay in business?  It would be interesting to watch for sure and if I held a lot of funds on some gambling site that had already paid out based on the election results, I would keep a watchful eye on the situation and consider withdrawing anything I couldn't afford to lose.

I'm not aware of any smaller books that are actually acting as 'the book'.  These days there are the giant established books, and then there are a few odds providers that run the back end of most crypto betting sites.  

I would expect the established books to take the hit and pay Trump bets.  If they didn't, it would do serious damage to their reputation. (Paddy power actually paid out Clinton bets a week or two before the 2016 election as a publicity stunt.  In the end they probably still made out ahead after the MSM ran with it and gave them tons of exposure)

For the rest I would expect the odds providers to take the hit, and if they ran off then you'd see some smaller books that don't have the cash or rep to protect fold up.  

I know Stake came out and said they were paying Biden bets out of pocket because their odds provider was planning on waiting till Jan and they didn't want all the money tied up for that long.  They were open about being on the hook if Trump does find a way to win.



@OgNasty a few days back this would have been a genuine concern for all the parties i.e. gamblers and sportsbook, but now Biden victory is official, and nothing can change it.

Furthermore even Republicans are accepting him as the president, which ends any speculation about Trump being able to reverse the election results, hence we don’t need to worry about this scenario.

Lastly even if we consider a hypothetical scenario any legit sportsbook would be foolish not to pay those people who wagered on Trump, because they would lose a lot of money in the long run as people would stop playing on their sites.

Sources:

https://apnews.com/article/electoral-college-confirm-joe-biden-win-2d4fd7368d8fd6cb47ff0b2cc206271a

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/12/16/trump-mcconnell-election-biden-president/

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/15/technology/can-trump-still-win.html

Technically Congress still has the chance to object.  And a few will, and then they'll have to debate, and then as long as a Majority of both the house and senate don't agree with the objections then he will have the votes.

And then, technically, he won't be president until sworn in.

It's kind of like when a golfer wins a tournament.  He's still gotta sign the score card, and then he's still gotta do the ceremony, but the books want the money in the gamblers hands asap so they can gamble with it, so they aren't going to wait unless there's a good reason to.
2253  Economy / Gambling / Re: Sportsbooks that aren’t paying out on Biden winning the US Presidential Election on: December 19, 2020, 01:25:39 AM
I don't have any skin in the game but am curious what these sites who have already paid out would do if somehow Trump's lawyers worked some sort of legal magic to actually keep him in the white house.  I wonder if they would then pay out the other side of the bet or would even have the reserves left to do so.  Would they then confiscate all the BTC on their platform and disappear, or try to use future user fees to stay in business?  It would be interesting to watch for sure and if I held a lot of funds on some gambling site that had already paid out based on the election results, I would keep a watchful eye on the situation and consider withdrawing anything I couldn't afford to lose.

I'm not aware of any smaller books that are actually acting as 'the book'.  These days there are the giant established books, and then there are a few odds providers that run the back end of most crypto betting sites. 

I would expect the established books to take the hit and pay Trump bets.  If they didn't, it would do serious damage to their reputation. (Paddy power actually paid out Clinton bets a week or two before the 2016 election as a publicity stunt.  In the end they probably still made out ahead after the MSM ran with it and gave them tons of exposure)

For the rest I would expect the odds providers to take the hit, and if they ran off then you'd see some smaller books that don't have the cash or rep to protect fold up.  

I know Stake came out and said they were paying Biden bets out of pocket because their odds provider was planning on waiting till Jan and they didn't want all the money tied up for that long.  They were open about being on the hook if Trump does find a way to win.

2254  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Kracken! on: December 19, 2020, 12:55:55 AM
BREAKING: Maricopa County Board of Supervisors Refuses to Comply With Subpoenas to Turn Over Dominion Voting Machines for Audit (VIDEO)
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/breaking-maricopa-county-board-supervisors-refuses-comply-subpoenas-turn-dominion-voting-machines-audit-video/

The subpoenas included digital images of every mail in ballot which is obviously a violation of voters privacy.  So they are challenging the subpoena in court.

Quote
MI Sec of State Official Caught On Video Telling Volunteers To Count “Multiple Ballots with the very Same Signature” During “Audit” Of Votes In Antrim County
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/mi-sec-state-official-caught-video-telling-volunteers-count-multiple-ballots-signature-audit-votes-antrim-county/

Seems like they were counting all the ballots, including the ones that didn't 'count' from the 'spoiled pile', because they wanted to know how many ballots there were total, accepted + rejected, in case they were later challenged.  Seems pretty normal for a recount.

You actually falling for all this stuff?
2255  Economy / Gambling / Re: Sportsbooks that aren’t paying out on Biden winning the US Presidential Election on: December 18, 2020, 11:18:56 PM
Predictit settled this morning.
2256  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - 260k Holiday Giveaway! 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲 on: December 18, 2020, 09:00:29 AM
This was over months. You win bets you lose bets. And I am up 8k after overall betting for 230000.
I am up 8k$ lifetime. You dont limit somebody after that amount. Played myself up to plat 2 in 2 months only by betting, no casino bs. In other words I wagered 230000$ to win 8000$. Thats really worth limiting?

Over 2 months ago you said you were platinum 3:

I am platinum 3 and never had this. But tbh, they pulled some shady stuff against me as well.


Maybe I got something wrong? 2 or 3 , who cares. Fact is I am platinum and I have the right to get the reload. They write it on their site themselves.

Fact is, my host didnt reply for 3 fucking days now.
Support also doesnt give a fuck and says I have to wait for m host instead of giving me a new one.

"Reload is not currently enabled on your account.
Please contact your VIP host to renew/enable this feature. If you do not have a VIP host please contact support to be in put in touch with one.
Your reload amount depends on your previous 7 days gameplay, taking into account both total wagered & profit. The amount you receive from each claim will change each week after you renew it with your VIP host. It will go up or down accordingly.
As a Platinum II VIP on Stake you are always entitled to this feature."

ALWAYS ENTITLED.

Being a dick all the time and exaggerating the truth will create a vicious circle where you get treated shitty and people are less likely to believe you or care, which just pisses you off and makes you act like even more of a dick.  Pretty much every thread you post in is the same.  You should try not being a dick and maybe contributing a bit to the forum.  You'll have fewer issues with the books and when you do have an issue, the community will take it more seriously.


2257  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - 260k Holiday Giveaway! 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲 on: December 18, 2020, 04:42:06 AM
This was over months. You win bets you lose bets. And I am up 8k after overall betting for 230000.
I am up 8k$ lifetime. You dont limit somebody after that amount. Played myself up to plat 2 in 2 months only by betting, no casino bs. In other words I wagered 230000$ to win 8000$. Thats really worth limiting?

Over 2 months ago you said you were platinum 3:

I am platinum 3 and never had this. But tbh, they pulled some shady stuff against me as well.
2258  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [BET] Trump or not Trump 2020, eddie13 vs suchmoon on: December 18, 2020, 03:04:16 AM
You're a good man, but I can't help myself...

am probably going to do a little something so I can feel ok about it for myself..



https://secure.winred.com/djt/election-defense-fund-v2
2259  Economy / Gambling / Re: Sportsbooks that aren’t paying out on Biden winning the US on: December 18, 2020, 01:43:04 AM
Even Vegas had clear Trump was gonna win as he was priced @1.07 when i went to sleeep.
No they didn't.

Trump lied about his odds the 'so called bookies' had on him, and now you're repeating it as if it were fact.  I'm guessing you don't even realize you're not telling the truth though, so here:

1- You can't bet on politics in Vegas.
2- The best chance any book gave him was ~70% (1.4) around midnight, after he was projected to win Florida but before any other swing states had reported enough votes.




🤡 i didnt even read that tweet. I was following live odds in stake and bet365 and he was 1.07 before i went to sleep. Think whatever you want. We will talk again in one month😉

Nope.  Trump was never 1.07 to win on bet365.  Not a chance.  Don't fool yourself.

Here are the average odds of all the major books (including bet365) from the morning of the election till the weekend.



You're claiming 'vegas' gave Trump a ~94% (1.07) chance of winning before you went to bed....maybe it was while you were dreaming?  
2260  Economy / Gambling / Re: Sportsbooks that aren’t paying out on Biden winning the US on: December 17, 2020, 10:16:25 PM
Even Vegas had clear Trump was gonna win as he was priced @1.07 when i went to sleeep.
No they didn't.

Trump lied about his odds the 'so called bookies' had on him, and now you're repeating it as if it were fact.  I'm guessing you don't even realize you're not telling the truth though, so here:

1- You can't bet on politics in Vegas.
2- The best chance any book gave him was ~70% (1.4) around midnight, after he was projected to win Florida but before any other swing states had reported enough votes.



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