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1421  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - 2 Million+ in Xmas Giveaways | Watford & UFC Partner ⚽ 🥊 on: December 13, 2021, 04:55:24 PM


They said you would get up to 20%.
Last week they gave 15%.

If you say a number is going to be "up to" 20, and then the number ends up being 15, then your initial statement is not false.

Your petty argument is not legitimate.


The $1m race is practically a good incentive, but even if you reach the top 5000 you would end up with what .... $10 ?!

Why not reward everyone with more instead of giving the big bucks to the first one?!



It's like someone donating $50m to one single charity - they won't use efficiently - but if he gives out $1m each to 50 charities it would help more people.

Not telling Stake what to do - but simply giving away $10 to someone who wagered a lot to try and win a race is quite a joke...


This isn't Charity though, it's a business that's trying to be as profitable as possible.  

You think it makes sense to give your most valuable players less so that you can give the less valuable players more?  Top 3 racers have wagered over $150 million already.  Big players are why there is a $1m race, it's their money.



1422  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetABit.Casino - Share Your Thoughts on: December 13, 2021, 05:00:29 AM
In my opinion, you are both right. If the casino is dishonest, we should warn Newbies in every possible way that there is a possibility of losing money.

How about those who knows that a casino is dishonest but they help the casino by advertising it through the signature space instead of giving warning to newbies about the dishonest casino? What should we call them who act against their own words?


If someone act against own words, it means he is dishonest.

As for opinion about 1xbit - my opinion is very good. Im receiving payments from them regularly every week for several months. Here is my BTC address:

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/bc1q9zupqc045h6azxw8re7ufslawkemukdckjxrdc

For me 1xbit is very honest!

And what do you call someone with a hacked account  that gets paid to help bring new players to a Casino that has one of the worst reputations in the crypto world because of all the players they've refused to pay?

For me, the person that is using the stolen bitgov account is very dishonest!

I bought this account over 4 years ago. So don't lie that I stole it.

You have the right to have the opinion you want, just like me. 1xBIT is honest for me and I see no reason to lie about that.

You bought the account from someone that stole it from someone else.

You use the account to make money by helping a dishonest Casino find new players, who will likely be scammed.

Just because you aren't scamming directly doesn't mean you bear no responsibility.
1423  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetABit.Casino - Share Your Thoughts on: December 13, 2021, 04:32:24 AM
In my opinion, you are both right. If the casino is dishonest, we should warn Newbies in every possible way that there is a possibility of losing money.

How about those who knows that a casino is dishonest but they help the casino by advertising it through the signature space instead of giving warning to newbies about the dishonest casino? What should we call them who act against their own words?


If someone act against own words, it means he is dishonest.

As for opinion about 1xbit - my opinion is very good. Im receiving payments from them regularly every week for several months. Here is my BTC address:

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/bc1q9zupqc045h6azxw8re7ufslawkemukdckjxrdc

For me 1xbit is very honest!

And what do you call someone with a hacked account  that gets paid to help bring new players to a Casino that has one of the worst reputations in the crypto world because of all the players they've refused to pay?

For me, the person that is using the stolen bitgov account is very dishonest!
1424  Economy / Services / Re: [FULL] ChipMixer Signature Campaign | Sr Member+ on: December 12, 2021, 12:08:00 AM
You really should increase the character count on this signature campaign.

As if the character count makes the posts constructive...
Agree. Short shit post > Long.
1425  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - 2 Million+ in Xmas Giveaways | Watford & UFC Partner ⚽ 🥊 on: December 11, 2021, 07:37:38 PM
STAKE people, would you like to explain?

On December 3rd you sent out a Telegram message stating:

Earn Extra Every Week

Level 2 verified players will now receive up to 20% extra on every single weekly bonus.

Verify now to avoid missing out. This process should take less than a minute ✌️

Please note that verification is completely optional and if you choose to not verify you will not receive less. You will continue to receive the standard bonus amounts.


Today suddenly its not 20% but only 15% according to the weekly boost message:

💸 VIP weekly boost: Here
🚀 Level 2 verified: Receive 15% extra!
🚀 Level 3 verified: Receive 20% extra!
💰 VIP weekly boost total: $2,622,173!



What kind of bullshit is this?


As per my understanding, the words up to 20% means that it can be any number starting from 0 till 20 as the maximum.
You may complain if Stake said something like "you will get extra 20%" but in fact you get lower than 20%.
I do not try to defend Stake, it is based on my general understanding about the words or phrase.
I'm sure most people have the same understanding as me that the words up to does not mean as a fixed number.

LOL, nonsense.
Why would they even mention 20% if you don't get them.

That is literally what "up to" means.

Why would they say "up to" if they were sure everyone would get 20%?

Maybe one the promotions team wanted to do 20% but only got approved for 15%.  Maybe they were waiting to see how many people verified before deciding the final number.  Maybe they were pulling a bait and switch then give slightly less than the max, although I doubt they would over 5%.

But regardless, if you say a number is going to be "up to" 20, and then the number ends up being 15, then your initial statement is not false.  Ask a 5 year old to explain it to you if you still don't understand.
1426  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - 2 Million+ in Xmas Giveaways | Watford & UFC Partner ⚽ 🥊 on: December 10, 2021, 05:48:11 PM
The Level Up

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casino:65308670897      Crystals Digger (185.50×)
casino:65310036565      Jelly Reels (215.00×)
casino:65321436258      Let It Snow (103.40×)
casino:65328169042      Sweet Bonanza Xmas (105.90×)
casino:65333544937      Buffalo Power: Christmas (148.50×)
casino:65479449910      Christmas Carol Megaways (206.10×)
casino:65353988994      Fat Santa (193.52×)
casino:65358153479      Santa's Wonderland (223.50×)
casino:65454406204      Christmas Big Bass Bonanza (240.00×)

Guys, this one was one of the hardest challenges that I tackled in a very long time.... Pragmatic bonuses are incredibly hard to do lately and I struggled for 40 hours to finish this one.  Embarrassed

If I never see Christmas Carol Megaways and Christmas Big Bass Bonanza ever again, it will be too soon! Well, I hope the reward is good for this one, because I wasted a LOT of money on this challenge.  Angry

Did those two really give you more trouble than Buffalo Power? 
I'm approaching 10,000 spins without a 120x now on that one.
1427  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts on: December 10, 2021, 12:52:32 PM
don't you see that 1×bit is making efforts to clear their past reputation bringing in different ways to resolve issues on this forum? Let's keep on anticipating for more resolved issues not by attacking and trending to increase the number of unresolved posts.

The last time 1xbit has addressed a specific issue brought up by a player was 45 days ago on October 26th.

They have made 14 posts since then. 

One post on Nov 1 claiming "Some cases (including pm cases) are still pending answers, it will be posted soon."

One post on November 10 explaining what they've already done and telling players with issues to email or post in their "solving all the issues thread" (Note: they haven't posted in that thread since October 15th)

One post on November 12 telling a player with an issue to read the post from Nov 10th.

The other 11 posts have been either promotion spam or signature campaign related.

So, to answer your question:

don't you see that 1×bit is making efforts to clear their past reputation bringing in different ways to resolve issues on this forum?

No.  Do you?

Let's keep on anticipating for more resolved issues not by attacking and trending to increase the number of unresolved posts.

For how long?  2 months?  3 months?   6 months?  a year?





1428  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts on: December 10, 2021, 03:32:25 AM
If anyone wants a good laugh, check out this post in the now locked 1xbit shill campaign thread Erdogan trying to make it look like 1xbet is not owned by the same people as 1xbit  by editing their wikipedia page and then claiming:

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Very strange because when I search for 1xbet in wikipedia there is nothing about 1xbit there. Maybe this information is not very reliable?

Hopefully he abandons his account in shame.

 Grin Grin Grin oh come on! Do you really think I did not know about the ability to check the history of changes??
I did this just to show how easily this information can be manipulated.
However, I am surprised that I did not notice this on wikipedia before, as I have looked at it several times in the past and I think originally "1xbit" was not there.
Anyway, now I don't really have much to argue about. So I will leave this discussion aside, but to be honest, I am not entirely convinced yet.

Bullshit.  All you did was prove how far you are willing to go to defend 1xbit and that it's not actually that easy to manipulate information on wikipedia.  Your edit lasted about 45 minutes before it was reverted and your ip address was given a warning.



You are quite pathetic.
1429  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts on: December 09, 2021, 08:14:14 PM
If anyone wants a good laugh, check out this post in the now locked 1xbit shill campaign thread Erdogan trying to make it look like 1xbet is not owned by the same people as 1xbit  by editing their wikipedia page and then claiming:

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Very strange because when I search for 1xbet in wikipedia there is nothing about 1xbit there. Maybe this information is not very reliable?

Hopefully he abandons his account in shame.
1430  Economy / Services / Re: [1xBit.com] - CSGO: PGL MAJOR 2021 - Signature Campaign [PAUSED] on: December 09, 2021, 10:52:25 AM
Indeed, the names are very similar, so it is not surprising that the mistake is reproduced even by news websites.

As for the software it has been discussed and it is officially known that they use the same service: https://betb2b.com/

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Betb2b is an innovative platform for the rapid establishment of bookmaker products. Our clients include world-renowned bookmakers such as 1xbet.com, 22bet.com, 1xbit.com and betwinner.com, among others. The companies that have been created on our platform serve over 1 million players daily.

Don't you think it's more likely that 1xbit and 1xbet are both owned by 1xCorp and it's naturally in their best interest to publicly distance themselves from each other since their combined reputations is worse than each of their reputations on it's own?  Plus, it shields the owners legally.

Are you seriously going to keep going down this ridiculous path, bending over backwards to defend the site that pays you for advertising space in your signature?  

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1xbit support declares that 1xbet and 1xbit have nothing to do with each other, except a similar name:

^^ This has to be one of the weakest, most pathetic argument you could try to make.  It's the word of a shady casino vs tons of evidence to the contrary.


Of course it would be logical to keep the two companies separate so that their opinion does not get mixed up. I would certainly do that too. However, we can only speculate about it, because there is simply no evidence that it is so.

Yeah they're separate companies owned by the same people.  Which is not what your stance was a few posts ago when you were trying to distance 1xbit from 1xbet because of all the scummy stuff that's come to light about the owners of 1xbet....who also own 1xbit as well as a bunch of other casinos that are known for not paying winners.

This is what a shill would say:
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1xbit support declares that 1xbet and 1xbit have nothing to do with each other, except a similar name

1431  Economy / Services / Re: [1xBit.com] - CSGO: PGL MAJOR 2021 - Signature Campaign [PAUSED] on: December 09, 2021, 09:57:07 AM
Indeed, the names are very similar, so it is not surprising that the mistake is reproduced even by news websites.

As for the software it has been discussed and it is officially known that they use the same service: https://betb2b.com/

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Betb2b is an innovative platform for the rapid establishment of bookmaker products. Our clients include world-renowned bookmakers such as 1xbet.com, 22bet.com, 1xbit.com and betwinner.com, among others. The companies that have been created on our platform serve over 1 million players daily.

Don't you think it's more likely that 1xbit and 1xbet are both owned by 1xCorp and it's naturally in their best interest to publicly distance themselves from each other since their combined reputations is worse than each of their reputations on it's own?  Plus, it shields the owners legally.

Are you seriously going to keep going down this ridiculous path, bending over backwards to defend the site that pays you for advertising space in your signature?  

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1xbit support declares that 1xbet and 1xbit have nothing to do with each other, except a similar name:

^^ This has to be one of the weakest, most pathetic argument you could try to make.  It's the word of a shady casino vs tons of evidence to the contrary.
1432  Economy / Services / Re: [1xBit.com] - CSGO: PGL MAJOR 2021 - Signature Campaign [PAUSED] on: December 09, 2021, 08:07:10 AM
skip

1xbit support declares that 1xbet and 1xbit have nothing to do with each other, except a similar name:

And what do you think?  Stop being a shill for a second and just be honest.  (I appreciate that you've been somewhat rational to discuss things, which is rare in these situations,)

Have you noticed anything, other than their similar name, that would make you think they might be the same company?

I just spent 5 minutes looking into it and see they have nearly identical Terms of Service. their site uses basically the same front and back end, 1xbit is listed as a subsidiary of 1xbet from multiple sources, they both have similar reputations for non payment, and I could go on, and that's after 5 minutes.


https://snipboard.io/gTtuNy.jpg





https://www.casinonieuws.nl/online/curacaose-licentieverstrekker-cyberluck-aangeklaagd-om-fraude-1xbet/

1433  Economy / Services / Re: [1xBit.com] - CSGO: PGL MAJOR 2021 - Signature Campaign [PAUSED] on: December 09, 2021, 06:42:20 AM
Today is monday so I am really hoping that this campaign start this week.

Wouldn't hold your breath guys.


https://knipselkrant-curacao.com/casinonieuws-1xbet-failliet-verklaard-door-curacaose-rechter/ 
https://knipselkrant-curacao.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/1xCorp-1xBet-1xBit-bankrupcy-Curacaoo-Egaming-online-sportsbetting-20211117.png

If they decide not to continue, don't worry, there will always be another scam casino with a sig campaign that no ethical member would join and so they'll have to accept you.

1434  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts on: December 08, 2021, 11:59:04 PM

Spamming the same thing over and over will only make 1xBits decision to ignore you seem more and more reasonable. 

1435  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts on: December 08, 2021, 09:04:21 PM
Looks like they got the boot from Curacao. Declared Bankrupt in court after owning a bunch of money.   At first glance, while not paying players is the headline, I'm guessing they didn't pay their license fees or we'd never be hearing about this.

Article (Dutch):
https://knipselkrant-curacao.com/casinonieuws-1xbet-failliet-verklaard-door-curacaose-rechter/  

Document (Dutch):
https://knipselkrant-curacao.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/1xCorp-1xBet-1xBit-bankrupcy-Curacaoo-Egaming-online-sportsbetting-20211117.png

From article (google translated)
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A judge in Curaçao has declared the company behind the well-known gambling site 1xBet bankrupt. The judge did so after 1xBet's parent company 1xCorp refused to refund players and defaulted on the lawsuit.

Advocate SBGOK who stands up for online gamblers who say disadvantaged by being in Curacao licensed online casinos, according to the court successfully argues that 1xCorp "multiple debts unpaid leave" and "in the condition of having ceased to make payments."

Prob deserves it's own thread if there isn't one already.  Interesting stuff, haven't had a chance to dig into it yet though.

Looking forward to see how Ergodan will spin this one.
1436  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: December 08, 2021, 05:25:48 AM
Five years down the line, Trump has proven himself to the American people, and there'll probably never be another President like him. He came in from the outside to transform Anerican but America refused to be transformed. The special interests has hijacked the once greatest national on the face of earth.

He tried to remain in power after losing the election.

That makes him a failed authoritarian.
Trump tried to change the outcome of the election before it was voted on.

That makes him a politician.

There is really no other way of looking at it.

I'm talking about after the election silly.


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He tried to remain in power after losing the election.

That makes him a failed authoritarian.
1437  Economy / Securities / Re: 📈 NastyFans: The Bitcoin Enthusiast Fan Club (est. 2012) on: December 07, 2021, 08:27:12 PM
So, do you want to track who owns which coin from the remainder of the contest, or do you want me to do the auctions now?  You can't have both.

Pretty clear he wants you to do the auction and has been waiting since July.


We wait for OgNasty to auction unclaimed prizes as we voted in poll. After poll obligations complete you will receive your prize even if your account is terminated since giveaway. You do not need to become a member for this reason.

It is 4 July and some winners did not claim their prize. I sent email and private message but still no claim.

Now the lottery results and claim form is removed from nastyfans.org. OgNasty will make another auction for unclaimed prizes. All proceeds from the auction are regular donation to nastyfans for following distribution payout.

The OgNasty auction will be:
  • 11x 1oz minted seat coins
  • 3x 2oz minted seat coins
  • 1x 5oz minted seat coin

OgNasty will post here when auction thread is open.

Please read voted giveaway poll again. Poll terms require a final auction from you of unclaimed prizes. The auction proceeds is a donation to nastyfans. This is a important part of giveaway so all fans are winners.

I check often for auction but I do not see it. I also do not see a donation so large. Please say if I miss something.

This comment confuses me. I answer you and remind of final auction. My posts here remind you also. I do not understand. Voted poll terms are clear for all members can see. Maybe you wait for perfect time for final auction to maximize prize. I am excited to bid!

Pretty amazing to see Compass mining offering 840TH/s hosting bundles at a price we could afford.  When I discovered Bitcoin the entire network was less than 10TH/s.  It's hard to really fathom the growth...  If people want me to massively expand the mining operation, this would be a likely way forward.  It would bring somewhat of an end to the "free electricity" claim that NastyMining was built on, but I also agreed to provide 25GH/s in hashrate of which I'm currently providing more than 1000x that and a move like this would bring us to more than 30,000x that.  Perhaps something to be debated quickly, as December every 4 years has historically been a great time to purchase mining equipment.

https://support.compassmining.io/hc/en-us/articles/4410887005457


There is also the recent news of the "Volcano Bond" that has been going around.  These bonds will be tokenized on the Liquid network and offered for trading on Bitfinex.  I am not sure how people feel about this opportunity.  We as an organization have never supported additional layers on the Bitcoin network or ran a Lightning node, but this is the direction Bitcoin development is heading and if we are to continue supporting Bitcoin only then perhaps we should consider an investment like this to do our part to support Bitcoin's ongoing development.  My original goal in getting involved with Bitcoin was to change the world and although this isn't the way I would've like to see things go, I think supporting this bond offering is the best opportunity we have right now to help Bitcoin change the world.

https://www.reuters.com/markets/rates-bonds/el-salvador-plans-first-bitcoin-city-backed-by-bitcoin-bonds-2021-11-21/
Given your history, I think this would end very badly.
1438  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts on: December 07, 2021, 07:48:31 PM
Maybe the 1xbit scammers have temporarily stopped posting here because they have concluded they can only lie and deceive to a certain limit and that they have failed in trying to divide the community by using their signature campaign in an attempt to whitewash their scams.

I think it's because they stopped getting paid:

Hello guys,

We are currently preparing design and rule updates, it took longer this time - but it will be ready soon.

You should expect the campaign to resume within 2 or probably 1 week.
1439  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: December 07, 2021, 07:46:26 PM
Five years down the line, Trump has proven himself to the American people, and there'll probably never be another President like him. He came in from the outside to transform Anerican but America refused to be transformed. The special interests has hijacked the once greatest national on the face of earth.

He tried to remain in power after losing the election.

That makes him a failed authoritarian.
1440  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts on: December 07, 2021, 02:36:09 AM
I'm curious about this:

Why is everyone complaining about this site people who will play tennis? is there anyone who played something else like soccer?

I'm just curious to know

The discussion about live table tennis is because most of the complaints in this thread are about it. Several previous posts explain how users are taking advantage of the delay in updating results. Whether betting knowing the result is a scam or not, you must decide individually.

We do not discuss about other sports as there are no complaints about them.
I am not surprised because most gamblers always look for loop holes of a platform in order to cheat on them, and if they are cut it becomes an attack. The player will come out to lament a out how unfair they are treated. They can even add some lies to make the story interesting. I am not always move by what I see on the net because many are just lies. We can always make our research to know what is true and wrong.

so the problem is in the tennis, if that's the case I see that there may be room for cheats but why the site didn't fix it so don't have problems in the future? it seems that the site likes to have ten accusations per month and does little or nothing to resolve the accusations that way the site will go bankrupt because no one will use this site for some time when everyone realizes this serious situation

In fact, I'd like to know that too. The only logical explanation for me may be that it is simply more profitable for them to leave games, and because they have a sensible detecting system, they catch all those trying to cheat. It is possible that the cheaters managed to earn from it before, and now they can not, hence the dissatisfaction and so many complaints.

Well yeah, at least in the short term, it's more profitable when every time they offer a bad line they just freeze (steal) the entire balance of anyone that gives them action on it.  Of course in the long run , acting ethically is more profitable than unethically.

In the end, bad line or not, the book offers action, the players decide which action to accept.  The book tries to offer the worst possible lines that they think the most players will accept.  And players look to take lines that they view as the most profitable.  It's a game, both sides are always trying to win.


If the book offers a bad line, they should obviously expect players to take it.  When this happens, it does not make it ok for the book to take the players entire balance.  If they do, it's stealing, plain and simple.  A players balance belongs to the player.  Just because the book has access to it doesn't give them any more rights to it than if it were physically in the players pocket.


I understand you way of thinking and it is perfectly normal. But I guess you are missing one thing.
1xbit gives back the user's deposit even if he was caught on cheating.
The problem in this case is that users who try to cheat open multi accounts on 1xbit, and a deposit can only be returned once.

Unless the funds are tied up in some bonus or other type of promotion, the players entire balance belongs to the player.  The amount they deposited is irrelevant.

Lets say:

You deposit 100 USDT.

After a few days of wagering your balance is 500 USDT

1xbit accidentally offers you action on a match that finished 20 seconds earlier, you bet 25 USDT and it pays out 100 USDT.

Now your account is at 575 USDT.

If 1xbit doesn't want to pay out the bet that they accidentally offered, then fine.  They should show the time logs to the player, apologize for the mistake, and void the bet.  Your balance is back to 500.

The 100 USDT deposit you made a few days ago is absolutely irellevant.  I don't care if it was a 5 USDT or 5000 USDT deposit, the balance in your account is your money just like the money you deposited.  

As for the multi accounting accusations, that's nonsense.  They market themselves as a fully anonymous casino.  How can you ban someone at a fully anonymous casino.  I mean you can ban the account, but its fully anonymous, so they could just make a new one.
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