Nough said

Which is the difference between having a usable anonymous coin and a proof-of-concept coin until the scaling can be resolved.


Actually, the game theory component of Darkcoin seems quite solid. And remember that DarkSend, when opensourced, can be used in multiple coins - which means that suddenly, one must have A LOT of money to own the nodes of every single coin out there, to deanonymize everything. It also creates the following loop:

Coin implements DarkSend => The-powers-that-be need to buy 80-95% of the nodes to deanonymize a good percent of transactions with 8 rounds of DarkSend => buyers of said coin get rich by TPTB that buy from them.

Suddenly you've made a mechanism where ordinary people are getting rich by the NSA or NSA-equivalent organizations. This is a non-strategy for the elite. They want to track you but not to make you rich - or ensure that every buyer of DarkSend-enabled coin will get rich.

The forceful or coerced cooperation part is also doubtful since nodes are all over the world. It's not enough to have a few nodes. You need a lot of nodes. And even if you have a lot of nodes, a paranoid Darkcoin user will escape detection by laundering his money 2-3-4 (or more) times over 8 different nodes (total 32 nodes) - by paying the fees necessary of course. The statistic possibility of deanonymizing him by going over 32 (or more) nodes would be near zero.

I am more worried about the IP obfuscation part of anonymous coins, rather than sybil attacks in Darkcoin / DarkSend-enabled coins. That's the weak spot.

Scaling, I believe, is a no-issue, not only due to pruning, but also due to lower-settings of mixing that will be used for less paranoid users that are more concerned with privacy rather than total anonymity.


Personally, I do not see transaction fees as a problem. I believe that fees should be enforced in every single coin. No fees = bloating attack vector open = coin is DOA. Nobody wants to use coins which have terabytes of blockchain because some kid scripted bogus transactions for the lulz / just to kill a coin. Such a coin would be a joke coin. Why would anybody use a joke coin that can be bloated to destruction by script-kids, at no cost?

In the later update (mid-July), it goes up to 8 nodes - not 2. So the probabilities are far better.

Remember there is a dis-incentive to Sybil by requiring 1000 DRKs per node. And you can't buy a lot of nodes without taking the price to the sky, as the less DRKs there are in the market, price increases non-linearly. So you'll need to own a heck of a lot of nodes to Sybil this - and the money required to increase your success percentage are going up in a non-linear fashion during the accumulation of DRK nodes.

Personally I think premixing is quite interesting because, aside from solving issues that occur in realtime (like the simultaneous tx / denomination requirement) it re-opens the possibility of blind sigs... As it is right now (the implementation of DRK's coinjoin), it is performed without blind signatures due to the DOS issue that blind sigs had - which you discussed with Evan. So the node does know in order to be able to penalize bad behavior. But with premixing, the requirement for real-time coinjoin is eliminated... so, I'm thinking, perhaps, blind sigs can be used for better mixing. Even if mixing fails due to DOS, it is not a problem as a retry can be initiated for many times. It's all in the premixing phase (that could be days before a transfer) and thus one has plenty of time to waste... it could probably be activated with a "paranoid" checkbox for those desiring blind-sig level of anonymity.


Remember that Darkcoin, unlike Monero, can be pruned.

Darkcoin will use premixing so that the simultaneity issue during transactions is resolved in RC4 with DarkSend plus (DarkSend+).

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/development-updates-july-7th.1735
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https://darkcointalk.org/threads/development-updates-july-15th.1788 (revisions)

Bitcoin isn't a cure-all. It can solve some issues regarding economy and politics, but it won't solve unemployment. You can however use trading to make money - even if you start small. And I do live in Greece btw where unemployment is like 30% / young unemployment is over 60%.

The primary problem is not Bitcoin, the socioeconomic environment etc etc. These are excuses. 99% of the people don't have a vision of what they want to achieve. They live life as life comes to them instead of planning it. Once you have a proper vision, and reinforce it through your subconscious (subconscious programming, visualization etc), stuff will start falling into place. With no vision/purpose, you can't do much. Your body and mind are like a car that goes circles - with no destination.

Anonymint, can one solve the low-latency timing analysis issue of I2P/TOR by having all wallets configured to broadcast stuff at 1m intervals? Like 13:42:00, 13:43:00, 13:44:00 etc? Or making a customized I2P implementation that does something similar, joining all the network movements in some way?

The best wish we can give you, is go all in / sell your house and buy cloak. For most of us, the reason is obvious - as has been the case for all the P&Ds that have paraded through the DRK thread and are now nowhere to be found.


You don't even know the history of the coin and you claim to give "advice" to noobs? Price in March was 0.001x. Now it's 0.01.

The roles of miners and node owners are not mutually exclusive - thus the "conflict" is only an imaginary one, promoted by trolls.

There's nothing preventing miners from using the mined DRKs to gain life-long "interest" / extra ROI through masternodes.

You mined 50-100-200-1000 DRKs? You get a masternode or a masternode slice and earn extra DRKs for life.

IP obfuscation is part of the development plan. Not in RC4 though.

Cloakcoin = the coin which promoted anonymity through exchanges. Nough said.

I'm quoting Anonymint from another thread where he talks about I2P on top of anonymous coins, to ask a development question on how we can implement I2P in Darkcoin.... I've bolded the part which I want to highlight:


Regarding DRK, I2P integration is planned because without IP obfuscation, anonymity is bust... so, my question is this: Can an I2P network (or the wallet?) be configured in such a way as to group broadcasts at certain time intervals? Like once per minute at 13:56:00, 13:57:00, 13:58:00, 13:59:00, 14:00:00 etc. In this way it would be much more resistant to timing-analysis (or so I figure - may be wrong).

Just throwing thoughts around.

No you just want to pump your coin with spamming the most-successful anon coin thread.

Look, everybody and their grandma knows Monero by now. If it was to take off, it would. It went to 0.01 and crashed to 0.002. That's it. The high inflation is killing it. And on top of that, it is not even usable due to scaling issues. It's alright when its used by 10-100 people, but it can't be used by 100.000 people.

That will only cover private buying and selling through PMs and forum offers WTB/WTS.

Exchanges didn't add DRK until early feb (ccex first, poloniex second).

To hedge PMs due to extreme price manipulation on PMs...

BTC itself is heavily manipulated through the news game however due to scarcity and lack of paper leverage, things are much better.

So even if governments suppress prices of PMs, one can still make profits with cryptos - which are played as a hedge and understood to be higher risk.

Is there a fee, and if yes, who gains it?

Just arbitrage between cryptsy (104) and mintpal (106). It was mine btw.

That's how markets operate. Someone is selling, another is buying. Bitching about people selling is for shitcoin threads, not DRK with millions of USD in volume.

DRK doesn't have multipool dumping issues - it's a myth. The quantity of the mined DRK is in itself very low (2880 coins -20% for MN = just 2300 coins...). And of the 2300 coins, what percentage is mined by multipools? 50%? Which is like what? 1100 coins? Which make for like 11 btc per day? And the daily volume is like 160 btc just on mintpal?

The DRKs traded at the market are by traders who are playing with thousands of DRKs. Multipools are nothing.

You can try other values too... like 200-300-400-600-700-800-900 and see if any works for you. My cards liked 400 and 800 but they weren't 280s (series 5xxx and 6xxx).

Increases the intensity, which, in other words, is about increasing the workload processed by the card. The card won't blow up as it does 1-2-3% difference.