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2301  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Kracken! on: December 05, 2020, 07:04:31 PM
.... Giuliani winning bigly in the Supreme Court?

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He won't win, but I'm sure he will cause a big stink....



That was the kraken. Rudy finally released it.
2302  Economy / Gambling / Re: VerveCasino.com - Daily Rakeback, Weekly Lossback - New bitcoin/crypto casino on: December 05, 2020, 03:46:10 PM
In regards to new games/providers. We add new games all the time (even today). We don't have No Limit or Relax games but we have the most popular provider right now with Pragmatic. The others will be added asap.
Ah yeah, you have Pragmatic Play, but it doesn't seem like enough :v
whatever it is, hopefully your platform can be better Wink

Looks like they have hundreds of different games?  From 10 different providers.  Troll.
2303  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Kracken! on: December 05, 2020, 03:41:04 PM
....

Nothing was thrown out.  Nothing was out of the ordinary.  ....

It's so nice that we have loyal Democratic operatives to parrot to us the orchestrated lies.

Usually such a thing would make a person more suspicious, not less.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=532j-186xEQ&t=27s



Here's some more reality for you from yesterday:


Judge rejects Trump campaign lawsuit seeking to block state’s presidential election results, says no evidence election was affected by fraud

Quote
In his 35-page order, Russell wrote that he found the evidence offered by the Trump campaign to have “little to no value,” and failed to provide under any standard of proof that the campaign’s long list of alleged fraud and vote irregularities could be backed up under any evidentiary standard.

The lawsuit was denied with prejudice.

https://thenevadaindependent.com/article/judge-rejects-trump-campaign-lawsuit-seeking-to-block-states-presidential-election-results


But hey, that's just the media reporting.  You could go find the court transcript, but hey, that would just be a pdf.  And anyway, it's much easier to just believe that the thing you want most to be true really is - especially now that you've decided to own the conspiracy theories...admitting you were wrong is not an option.
2304  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Kracken! on: December 05, 2020, 10:46:51 AM
No.  The president is spreading misinformation on twitter. 
No. We don't know it yet for sure but I believe his claims are not baseless.
Yes, we do.  He said he won Georgia, Michigan, AZ, PA...all states that have certified their votes already.
He also tweets 100% debunked conspiracy theories on a near daily basis.


He said he won only if the honest votes get counted. As far as I'm aware, there will be a signature match check in GA. If those fake ballots go away, Trump will win GA and that can change a lot of things.

He said he won.  By a lot.





Nope. Not, yet.

Yup.  Here's another one of many many examples:

Clark County Nevada had ~1.5 million votes cast of which there were 159 discrepancies. 

These numbers are totally normal, but after the votes were counted the race for a commissioner seat in district C had a margin of only 10 votes, so they had to go through all the discrepancies and then the person with the  10 vote lead ended up winning anyway.

This had zero affect on the general election, which had been certified the week before with Biden winning that county by 90,000 votes.

Trump got wind of those 159 discrepancies and tweeted this:


Nothing was thrown out.  Nothing was out of the ordinary.  He just saw the word discrepancy and repeated someone elses total lie knowing that people would believe him.
2305  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How will Trump leave the White House? on: December 05, 2020, 08:44:40 AM


Maybe he will grant himself a pardon before he leaves office?

Smiley
Trump can only pardon himself for federal crimes. The state of New York would not be subject to any pardons that are issued by the President.

On that note, I do think should and will pardon himself on the way out of office. There would be too much pressure from the left to engage in politically motivated investigations and prosecutions that would end up further dividing the country.

I recently heard a decent argument that pardoning himself may actually increase the chances of charges being filed.  The pardon would need to be litigated before any trial and could motivate prosecutors to file charges to hopefully prevent the precedent of a self pardon being valid.  Of course it could be found valid, but it seems like there's a reasonable chance that it won't be.
2306  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Kracken! on: December 05, 2020, 08:30:47 AM
Biden officially clinches Electoral College votes with California certification

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/528873-biden-officially-clinches-electoral-college-votes-with-california


So uhhh, looks like Biden is going to be president in a few weeks...






Yes, I'm sure they actually do have evidence that millions of votes for Biden were fraudulent and Trump actually won the election, they just need to keep the evidence secret while claiming what's public is proof Trump won.  Makes total sense.
It not completely being kept secret though. We already get to see some of them I believe. I should also mention, Biden hasn't officially won, yet.

You're right.  They are claiming that the smoking gun absolute proof has already been made public.  It's that video, which proves nothing.


It's been proven that Russia was working to help Trump win the 2016 election, you can read the report on the investigation hear: https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf

You say Russia helped Trump but where is your evidence? Without evidence you are only spreading misinformation.

Here's a 400 page report on the investigation: https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf

There's also an IG report on investigation itself, and the indictments on like a dozen Russians.  We know the fake aliases they used, where the servers they used are, the bitcoin txs they used to pay for the servers, we know when they mined the bitcoin, we know exactly when and how they hacked the dnc and how information was released, we know of the thousands of social media accounts they created to sway the public, I could go on.

No.  The president is spreading misinformation on twitter.  

No. We don't know it yet for sure but I believe his claims are not baseless.
Yes, we do.  He said he won Georgia, Michigan, AZ, PA...all states that have certified their votes already.
He also tweets 100% debunked conspiracy theories on a near daily basis.


2307  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Kracken! on: December 04, 2020, 06:38:00 PM


Repubs: Provide many evidences.
Dems: Yeah I see you provided hundreds of thousands of evidences for the election fraud but where is the evidence?

 Grin

Comedy gold. This can only end in one way.
If that's evidence of something other than election workers putting ballots into (or taking out of) a bag in the room where you count all the ballots then I'm sure the feds already have a search warrant and those 4 workers are in federal custody and we'll know soon who was behind this scheme that almost robbed Trump of a second term.

There is probably something happening behind the scenes we don't know it yet.
Yes, I'm sure they actually do have evidence that millions of votes for Biden were fraudulent and Trump actually won the election, they just need to keep the evidence secret while claiming what's public is proof Trump won.  Makes total sense.

I don't remember twitter putting those warnings back in 2016 when people accused Trump of getting aid from Russia. Yes Twitter is pushing its own agenda (the dem agenda) and censoring the president of the United States and Jack will have to answer for this behavior.
It's been proven that Russia was working to help Trump win the 2016 election, you can read the report on the investigation hear: https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf

As set forth in detail in this report, the Special Counsel’s investigation established that
Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election principally through two operations. First, a
Russian entity carried out a social media campaign that favored presidential candidate Donald J.
Trump and disparaged presidential candidate Hillary Clinton. Second, a Russian intelligence
service conducted computer-intrusion operations against entities, employees, and volunteers
working on the Clinton Campaign and then released stolen documents. The investigation also
identified numerous links between the Russian government and the Trump Campaign.


Trump may or may not spreading misinformation. Twitter is not the one to decide which is which. Courts are. Did Trump concede and left the House? No. Then Twitter can't decide the result of an ongoing legal process the way they see fit.
No.  The president is spreading misinformation on twitter. 


2308  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Kracken! on: December 04, 2020, 09:16:00 AM


Repubs: Provide many evidences.
Dems: Yeah I see you provided hundreds of thousands of evidences for the election fraud but where is the evidence?

 Grin

Comedy gold. This can only end in one way.

If that's evidence of something other than election workers putting ballots into (or taking out of) a bag in the room where you count all the ballots then I'm sure the feds already have a search warrant and those 4 workers are in federal custody and we'll know soon who was behind this scheme that almost robbed Trump of a second term.



I also find it very shady of Jack to put banners on these tweets even when they are presenting the actual evidences. I guess he'll get his fair share from his too.

There is no question, the president is using twitter to spread misinformation that's making millions of people more angry and more violent.  And you think it's the guy who built Twitter that's the shady one?
2309  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Kracken! on: December 04, 2020, 01:36:34 AM
Trump (and thus spendulus) is going on about ballots in a suitcase, this is the video he's talking about:

https://twitter.com/TeamTrump/status/1334569329334083586?s=20

incredible stuff
2310  Other / Politics & Society / Re: US Elections 2020 - very self such moderated on: December 03, 2020, 02:02:30 PM
....
In my opinion though, I don't think it should take THAT LONG to find out that voter fraud happened. Like, Donald Trump has the full force of his legal team, his DOJ, and the rest of Republican state governors....
Well, you'd be trying to make it happen faster, and your adversaries would be trying to slow it down.

You'd legally request the voting machines be impounded for forensic examination. Your adversaries would fight that.



Imagine if that voter fraud commission Trump put together to find the 3 million illegal votes that cost him the popular vote in 2016 had actually found anything...

But they didn't.  Too bad, would have been a great talking point for you right about now.  Not as great as actual evidence that Biden only won because of fraud, but still better than nothing...which is what you have right now.
2311  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Kracken! on: December 03, 2020, 02:33:29 AM
Trump makes his case for Democrat election fraud: This may be the most important speech I've ever made....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=720O_yBLrTs

I would have to agree, it is the most important speech Trump has made.

And we know what he says about the fraud is true. In the poll here on this forum, 20% of the responses were people admitting they would cheat to steal an election, if it got Trump out.



Unless you can prove the poll wasn't rigged by the easter bunny it shouldn't count.
2312  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How will Trump leave the White House? on: December 02, 2020, 08:57:58 PM
Can yall tell the future?
Yes.

The sun will rise tomorrow.
2313  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Kracken! on: December 01, 2020, 09:29:35 PM
“To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election”
-Bill Barr, Today
2314  Other / Politics & Society / Re: US Elections 2020 - very self such moderated on: December 01, 2020, 07:41:45 AM
The fuck is the Kraken anyway? -- The news outlet(?), not the myth.

Qanon conspiracy theory that is so stupid Trump had to pretend like the lawyer that pushed it in public never worked for him.

2315  Other / Politics & Society / Re: US Elections 2020 - very self such moderated on: December 01, 2020, 05:40:34 AM
Trump underperformed the down-ballot candidates almost everywhere. If the election stands, voters will have voted against Trump, rather than for Biden.

Loeffler should handily win as her opponent is especially radical in a Red state. Loeffler and Collins received a total of ~56% of votes, while her opponent only received ~32.9% of the vote.

There will be a show of force of fake votes, as they figure that after Joe and Hoe take office nobody will come after them and their vote fraud.

I suspect it'll be pretty much right out in the open.

What if the fraud actually helped Trump and Biden really won by more?

That is not what the forensic analysis by The Kraken shows.

I mean in the real world.  You know the Kraken isn't real, right?  It's a myth.
2316  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: November 30, 2020, 07:25:13 PM
Great job this week everyone, really impressive scores!  Grin
2317  Other / Politics & Society / Re: US Elections 2020 - very self such moderated on: November 30, 2020, 04:40:16 AM
Trump underperformed the down-ballot candidates almost everywhere. If the election stands, voters will have voted against Trump, rather than for Biden.

Loeffler should handily win as her opponent is especially radical in a Red state. Loeffler and Collins received a total of ~56% of votes, while her opponent only received ~32.9% of the vote.

There will be a show of force of fake votes, as they figure that after Joe and Hoe take office nobody will come after them and their vote fraud.

I suspect it'll be pretty much right out in the open.

What if the fraud actually helped Trump and Biden really won by more?
2318  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Kracken! on: November 29, 2020, 05:43:41 PM
SCOTUS does not have to "reverse the election." They only have to rule that there were enough problems to invalidate the counts, and toss the problem into Congress to be solved.

Doesn't Biden win if it goes to congress?  I thought the plan was cancel everyones vote in PA and then convince/bribe/extort the PA electorates to just give Trump votes.  And then repeat the process in a couple other states with a few dozen more electorates.

Also, do we know for sure SCOTUS will hear the case at all?  Don't they have a thing about not hearing cases with zero merit?
2319  Economy / Gambling / Re: Sportsbooks that aren’t paying out on Biden winning the US Presidential Election on: November 29, 2020, 05:35:16 AM
Every single news outlet is reporting that Biden is the winner and I’ve seen his speech.  



News are not deciding who wins elections, and this is not the first time something like this happens.
Better turn off TV and mainstream media, because they did wrong predictions many times, and even announced Gore as president one time, and they also miserably predicted all polls before elections.
FTX is still allowing users to decide and keep their bet on presidential elections.

The difference is that the Gore-Bush election was decided by a single state and the margin was extremely close. Trump is not going to overturn the results with more states involved and with bigger margins.

The media isn't just making things up out of thin air. They're going by the results being reported by state governments. That's how elections work. Of course the next step is to certify the results and wait for the electoral college to make it official but I don't see why casinos have to wait that long because at that point it's a foregone conclusion what will occur. We already have all the evidence we need to determine that Biden will be the next president.

For what it's worth:  that's a fake headline that the Trump campaign was spreading to discredit the media.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-headline/fact-check-the-washington-times-president-gore-headline-is-fake-idUSKBN27P216

They did call Florida for Bush too early, and then Gore conceded only to later retract.  This all went down during election night though - not a comparable situation really.

Besides, the only thing you need to trust to know who won the election is a calculator.

2320  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Kracken! on: November 29, 2020, 05:23:08 AM
Didn't know you'd have to make a bet to take sides in politics.

That's new.

I guess it is natural when almost 90% of the paid signatures are casino ads.

You don't.

But it's a good way to figure out if someone actually believes what they are saying or just being a troll.
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