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241  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 6-Win Challenge - AntiMartingale Strategy 0.02 BTC giveaway at end of 7 wins on: July 28, 2017, 10:34:06 AM
Anti-martingale is worst than martin gale itself! Just to illustrate

1. Win  - +1 units
2. Win  - +2 units
3. Win  - +4 units
4. Lose - -8 units

Result: -1 units

Another example,

1. Win  - +1 units
2. Win  - +2 units
3. Win  - +4 units
4. Win  - +8 units
5. Win  - +16 units
6. Win  - +32 units
7. Lose - -64 units

Result: -1 units

In the event you lose, you'll always have -1 units.

Stupid remark.

Anti martingale is the same as martingale.
Both have exactly the same result.
They're both as inneficient as any other gambling strategy...

How was that stupid? You basically supported my argument, the same argument you are saying is stupid. I just illustrated the downside of both martin gale and anti-martin gale systems. yeah they are both inefficient because there is really no strategy that will work in gambling. OP is just here trying to win a 7 game in a row, and it's just like a challenge.

You can use any strategy you have luck you can make it or else you will lose. You are right here the martingale or anti-martingale will not help OP to make 7 wins in a row his luck will help him to win. All the best for your challenge OP. I never tried this kind of challenge because I don't like to take a risk with my money. I just spend some coins to get fun. Let's see after you can achieve your target will try once.
242  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gift For Kid on: July 27, 2017, 02:40:45 PM
I really don't see a problem here. Kids gamble all the time with their games, and even make bets with each other all the time, so it's exactly the same. Also, kids can play monopoly and strip other users from all their houses and money and the goal is to put others to bankruptcy, so how can that be better than that game?
Yes, there is no big issues with these kind of toys. Right now though the law enforcement have provided with a +18 tag people with fake identity accepting the terms and conditions take part into gambling. In this situation something just provides a learning about the do's and don't through a gaming material might make kids stay out of gambling in later days when they start earning.
But what can you say about on the picture showing 8+ age? Arent you alarmed? You willing to buy that stuff for your kids? I guess you wont really do such thing. All those things are made on china for sure  Cool
Those things shouldnt really be tolerated because people are too young to know gambling but well its parents own choice if they decide to buy such gambling toys.
It's just a toy i think this buying this toy is not a big matter. Because we know this type of game is there in real gambling. But kids don't know right they will just play to pick one random number, and they enjoy the game. But if you play this same game in front of your kids then it is wrong. And this toy is not much interested in kids they will play few days, and again they ask new toy.
243  Economy / Economics / Re: Holdings of gold vs Holdings of btc on: July 27, 2017, 02:27:47 PM
Does anyone have any idea how many people are using gold as a store of value vs btc?  And how long do you think until we have the same user Base as holders of gold?
Gold has been stored for centuries as an investment and also used a an ornament.It has gained trust of people world wide for decades.Huge volume of people are holding gold as an investment.But bitcoin has been introduced just eight years ago.Earlier,it was mostly used as a currency.From past two years after its price has raised tremendously and so people started considering bitcoin as an investment.So,in no way,volume of bitcoin holders could reach volume of gold holders.
Yes you are right now Bitcoin will give us good profit if we invest on this coin. But this is physical currency suppose the value goes down you will not get anything you should wait to increase price or you sell your coins at a low price. But gold is not like that if the value drops mean we can make ornaments and use it in real life. You can save your money in gold but don't expect profit like Bitcoin.
244  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: July 27, 2017, 02:20:39 PM
Theres no easy way to make money using bitcoin, even harder to make money when you dont want to actually do anything to make that money. Basically the less work you want to do the bigger a risk you need to take to make your money.
Yes there is no easy, every successful thing comes from the hardest work, so I think before looking for an easy yet steady better to change mindset, theres no existence of that thing , if you want to have something you dont have you must do something that you havent done yet, hard work , patiencw and faith is needed, youll earn and used it to the pathway you think deserve hard work.
Easy way and steady income both are not same. easy way means without doing any hard work we can make money. Steady income means we are ready to do any work, but we want regular income.  The meaning is different, but the answer is same for both. We cannot earn steady income except earning from the signature campaign.
245  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Don't Spend Too Much Time Trading? is that true? on: July 27, 2017, 02:15:39 PM
trading is always like a illness bad addiction which take most of your free time if you want to or not so to avoid the addiction of trading is always to follow long term markets even if after one years just do it and forget about everything else .

Hey bitcoin trading is not the share market trading. Trading is the one of the platform bitcoin which gives profit instantly with the price changes in the chart. Please refer some videos about it first, then you could understand actually what is the case. Still trading utilizing the price fluctuations and making money of it.

Yes Bitcoin trading is not like a stock exchange. People do day trading in the stock exchange, so they will spend the full time to make money in stock exchange. But digital currency trading is like small term investment means buy any coins and wait for some days to increase the value of the coin and sell your coin when the price is high. Here also day traders are there, but I don't know how much profit they will make I never tried.
246  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Build a dice game with me on: July 26, 2017, 02:58:45 PM
You can create a dice site even in a small investment you just needed to make sure that the system is fair and you need to have certain limits just to make sure that you can pay your players and like the post above me said the bigger capital the better system that can be build.
To pay players he needs more money with a small investment you can not start gambling site. Atleast first 3 months you should have money to run your site. Then only you can survive in this field. Your bad luck first month itself a couple of players win big amount what you do. You should pay them, or else your site will lose reputation. Once your site gets a negative rating that's it no players will prefer to play on your site.    
247  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Favorite type of gambling? on: July 26, 2017, 02:52:38 PM
Give your vote to any kind of gambling, is that the betting on soccer games, playing poker, roulette, online gaming, live gaming....??
i like playing roulette, as it is very funny. Many options to bet on. Additionally, i like to bet on online gaming: League of Legends, DOTA2... It is easy as i know well the information of many teams
yes we can use a lot of bet combination in a game like roulette , not boring like dice game or slots. also blackjack & poker should be your choice , skills involved there . the game really thrilling , the tension are so real more than any other games i guess.

e-sports game good for those people who understand about it , mostly did not know about it right?
Roulette game is one of the most entertaining game compare to dice and other slot games. Here we can able to place multiple bets in a single roll, and if we follow martingale rule, we can make money in this game. Poker and blackjack we need to be a pro to play these games. if we play without experience dam sure we will lose our money. And e sports is also same but quite better to compare poker game if we know the game.
248  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How do I make sure to not lose $ value in BTC? on: July 26, 2017, 02:46:35 PM
From time to time, I get paid in BTC for my freelancing services. Sometimes, I don't exchange it to real cash and let BTC sit in the wallet. But lately there has been A LOT of fluctuation in BTC price so if I have, let's say, $2000 today, tomorrow I might have half of it. I don't like that kind of a situation. So is there any way to make sure that your BTC gets fixed? Like, somehow fix the BTC price in your wallet. So no matter if actual BTC price rises or falls, you still have the same value that you have today. I think I might be interested in keeping some of my savings in BTC (away from banks) if I can somehow find a way to fix the value that I have today.

Is there a way? Any suggestions?

The fluctuation is normal with btc. It's best if you try to convert your btc into your currency, then if there a decline in price, you will be able to buy btc again. When its high, sell. When it's low, buy. In that case  you wont lose but gain more..
Fluctuation in the prices is not a big issue if long term plans are in action. Loss and profit in business happen in any business roadmap. I think if one day the price of bitcoin come down so most probably it may increase next day. So, in business you will wait for a best occasion regarding profit.
Yes the price fluctuation will not affect if you are looking for long term investment. And don't get panic to see the price fluctuation it is common in the crypto world. Once you decided to invest for long term just buy coins and save it in a safe place don't look for a couple of years. Means how many years you plan to wait. But you should check the price updates regularly it will help you how many years you want to wait to make a good profit.
249  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do you think about others altcoin than Bitcoin on: July 26, 2017, 02:31:12 PM
To be honest, I don't see much potential in other coins than Bitcoin. Don't get me wrong I do not say that alt coins are bad but they just won't be accepted on a high scale. Even Bitcoin is not accepted everywhere and implementation costs are high.
Nevertheless I still keep some alt coins but it's mainly for a quick buck.
Other altcoin was still under bitcoin because of its characteristics. But I believe that some of them will defeat bitcoin someday. Maybe not this time. But the sad truth was these coins was still doesn't accept as a real currency.
Yes all altcoins are depended on Bitcoin. We have to change our bitcoins to fiat. First, we have to convert it into Bitcoin and sell our coins this is the process. That is why the altcoins are not growing so fast like Bitcoin. But slowly the exchanges will start to accept altcoins if that happens then the altcoin value will start to increase. Now people are using altcoin to do trading and gambling. When people start to use it in the real world, then these coins will get good value.
250  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Will you sell your BitcoinABC or hold on to it? on: July 26, 2017, 02:25:21 PM
Doesn't matter what will happen on 1st August - I will never sell my Bitcoins. The price will be grow for sure in the future!
highly agreed with you dude. whatever happen in the 1 st august, the price of bitcoin will raised more its my trust.a large number of people selling their valuable bitcoin for panic.but i think they are doing wrong.i am not selling my coin.just holding them tightly. bitcoin industry is not for lazy person.
No mate we don't underestimate the panic sellers. Who knows after August 1st if the price started to drop means we will become a fool. Because of this segwit, we are not doing any Bitcoin transaction since last two months suppose if the price drops again I think it will take minimum 4 to 5 months time to recover price. But i also have trust on Bitcoin and holding it in my wallet whatever it comes I am ready to accept.
251  Economy / Gambling / Re: Any Sports Gambling Site that accepts Litecoin? on: July 25, 2017, 05:47:14 PM
betcoin is the only choice for litecoin betting afaik(and it's up now). op just go with bitcoin and use nitrogensports if you're not confident to gamble at betcoin, use shapeshift to exchange your litecoins to bitcoins(use direct deposit address which sports betting site provides).
Stop promoting scams please.

I dont think he is promoting betcoin, he is only answering what is asked by adoalli and he is right that the only availabe sportsbetting accepting is betcoin. In fact he is promoting nitrogen instead of betcoin imho.

yes we have only one option now that is why he posted that site name. But what to do is there any option to do sports betting with litecoin. No after closing directbet site we are facing many issues, and many sports gamblers quit playing sports betting. We need more sportsbook to accept altcoins then only we will forget Directbet site, or else we keep on remembering this site name when we face any issues in sports betting.   
252  Economy / Gambling / Re: Investing in btc casinos on: July 25, 2017, 05:36:03 PM
I love to invest in casinos and gambling with bitcoins.
Just check your luck and get rich quick
yeah, but in this case if you "try your luck" it's gambling and not investing. Gambling can be VERY profitable....but if you win  Grin  But in long term gambling is not profitable (house edges etc...)

long term thats you mean greedy ? Grin
but im agreed with investing on gambling site i think we can got profitable, investor always win lol

I don't know for what basis you are telling gambling is profitable. If you ask me, i say investing is profitable than gambling. In gambling only if we have the luck we will make money. But if you invest in any good ICO you will earn stable money from this investing. This kind of steady income you will never get it from gambling.
253  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who use Litecoin for gambling here? on: July 25, 2017, 05:30:44 PM
I tried before although it was not really that big of an amount. Litecoin is faster and with cheaper fees so why not. Wish more and more casinos accepting litecoins soon.

I guess there will be more people that will use litecoin or other alt coins this coming days, even on gambling activities due to the bitcoin happenings - hard forksss.
Anyway, that's a good news for these coins because it will open a light for them to be used by other users who doesn't have any experiences on it. I consider litecoin as a good alternative for Bitcoin.

I used only bitcoins, but now my site allows us to play with other altcoins like ETH, Litecoin, Burst coin and Dogecoin. I prefer ETH and Litecoin these two have good value, and the transaction speed is also fast, and the fee is also very less to compare to Bitcoin transaction fee. Litecoin is now accepting in all online casinos.
254  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin dice sites with lowest house edge in 2017 on: July 25, 2017, 05:24:20 PM
Share any Bitcoin dice sites that you know of and play with the lowest house edge!
why are you looking for the lowest?i think if we have good skill to play,we never worry about it,but i sill suggest some site that have lowest house edge,its betchain or safedice,and some site like primedice also have low house edge,happy playing mate.

All popular dice sites have almost same house edge 1% but it depend which kind of dice site anybody prefer to play like maximum bet amount. I think rollin and betterbets are also nice sites to play there.

To play Dice game the house edge is matter, which is having low house edge there we will have some chance to make money. But if you go for a long run all sites will give you same result that is profit for casino owners and loss for players. So don't look for house edge just see which site is good and safe to play dice game. I will prefer to play Dice game in Bitsler and FJ.
255  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: BTC Gambling? on: July 25, 2017, 05:19:40 PM
Low minimum BTC Gambling sites?

They all start the minimum bet size at .001 btc or .0001 btc. Im looking for a gambling website that has the lowest bet size at .0000001 or less. Low btc minimum betting sites around?. Anyone know any?

Or low minimum (.0000001 btc or less) btc Forex that accepts USA?

So far looks like primedice the only one.

Any info? Thanks!!

i'm not sure if you have try many gambling site,a simple example if we play in freebitco.in,it have low amount of play,0.000001
and many site also have,i think you have strategy for playing,its why you need to play with very small amount,you can share that strategy while people here suggest you any site can you play.
we can play dice game in any website the min amount of bet size is 1 Satoshi. Becasue if any one put big margin here that site will not get many players. Becasue this game is not profitable and this game has more house edge to compare other games. You are looking for the same game then try my signature Bitsler you have access to play with other altcoins. 
256  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Buy now... or on July 31st? on: July 24, 2017, 05:52:08 PM
There is no harm in buying bitcoin at this time, because bitcoin prices are predicted to continue to rise. So do not worry we will experience a loss because the profits will come to us in the future. Stay patient and never panic to sell the bitcoin we have. Buying as much bitcoin as possible with the money we have can make us achieve satisfactory results.

I wouldn't trust the predictions too much. I could remember similar predictions from 2014, which claimed that BTC will rise to $10,000 per coin by 2017. It actually went down by 80%, to $200 per coin in 2016.

There is a lot of difference b/w 2014 to 2017. Just 1 year back the price fluctuated in b/w $500 to $600. But now it increased 400%. What you say for this increment. You are comparing 2014 price but compare to 2016 you will know how much percentage the price is increased. I don't know others that they have trust on Bitcoin or not but I believe in bitcoin.
257  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to increase BTC? on: July 24, 2017, 05:46:04 PM


There are many ways to increase BTC. Firstly, investing. Invest is the best way to increase BTC. If any one have a lot of capital to invest, they can start their own business and earn BTC. Secondly, any one can grow  by the helping their logic. Thirdly, treading. Finally gambling and mining hardwares.
The methods you have explained are some of the sound and secure ways of earning s. s can easily be increased by buying them at cheap prices and safe those in wallets till the prices greatly go up. At that time, invest those s to buy new ones. Except for this, mining and participation in signature campaigns are also great ways of collecting s.
yes investment is really a good way of making money. but i think every one has their own choice and my choice is trading. because i have experience in trading and for most of the time i have make good profit from trading. in fact i am study the crypto market regularly which really make it more easy for me to choose a good potential altcoin for trading, but it is also important that if a person want to become good trader he need to get experience first. 
Yes it depends upon person knowledge. You are good at trading, so you become a trader. But those don't have much time to learn to trade they can go for investment. Here you don't need to do too much research. Begining before investing your money you should do some research but once you invested in any business. Just watching your business is your work that's it.
258  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Minimum $$$ amount for trading? on: July 24, 2017, 05:40:47 PM



      I am not that expert in trading but i would like to suggest for you, better start with an amount you can afford to lose, just like gambling while you are practicing you can start by trial and error, because mostly you wont learn unless you try it for yourself, so better try for smaller amount because when you failed then it's not that hard for you to start again.
Yes just for learning you can start from $10 to how much you can afford. But to make a profit in short time, you should invest some more money. Yes with just $10 you will not be able to make a good profit. Here you will not learn any new thing. To learn the new thing you must try to invest in popular coin. To buy the popular coin, your investment should be a little bit high. Min $50 is good to start your trading.
259  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does the location affect when we gamble? on: July 24, 2017, 05:34:29 PM
I think the location doesnt affect in gambling.gambling is all about luck.even if you gamble in a mountain or even in a train a bus or in a different location if you loss or you win.the location doesnt affect on your descision of choosing your bet.

I think the lovation is very important if it is secure and if it has a reutation of nice and fair gaming. ALso the distance is very accesible should be to the gamer or gambler as it might prove to be an inconevinece to the gamer itself.

Location is actually everything because I feel at ease if the location is welcoming and full of people I can trust. Secondly when I gamble on sports my best location is my house beside my computer rather than the open public gambling houses.

I think you believe in superstition am I right. Those who believe this superstition they will look this location and place to gamble. Their intention is if they play in that place they will win their bet. So for this kind of people location is matter. I saw in my real life while watching live sports they will follow this kind of things means sitting in only one place and sitting angle not change until match finish etc etc.
260  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: July 24, 2017, 05:26:28 PM
The worst mistake in gambling is when you have already made a profit, but you want even more and you continue to play further, but in the end you lose all the money.

This is happening to me most of the time. I was able to earn good amount like 0.05 bitcoins few times but I didn't took the chance of saving it. And I just did continue to gamble that amount and became greedier but it lead me to lose all of those bitcoins and even my capital was included to that lose, a very considerable wrong mistake.

This is common mistake people do in gambling. That is why don't put any expectation in gambling. You played to win 0.05 BTC but how much bitcoins you lost that day you did not mention. Gambling is not a source to make money dude you should choose another way to earn bitcoins. Gambling is only for your entertainment.
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