Do you believe in god? If you do, why do you believe? (give a few reasons)
Why not? who do you think built Earth, space and the solar system? Nothing creates itself, e.g. Satoshi Nakamoto created the Bitcoin, dude! Everything has a creator!!! Well I hope you know that not everything in nature has a creator. Who created rain last week, or snow last year? Weather God? With your line of thinking I am surprised you don't believe in Thor and pray to him every time there is a thunderstorm. God created all these things (and everything else, as well) through the all-encompassing cause and effect He set in place at the Beginning of the universe. Everything in nature has God as its creator. There is only ONE God. He is powerful and capable beyond our greatest and wildest understanding.  |
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I cannot believe you actually said it what I've been saying all along. At least this we can agree on: God exists in people's minds.The fact that God lives in all our minds, in no way suggests that He doesn't live elsewhere, as well. However, you are a simple step from accepting God as your Savior, through faith in Jesus the Christ. |
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The Bible clearly states as clear as crystal the Earth if flat. So it must be true. "Bible is the best record we have" - according to BADecker, so it must be true, he wrote it down in his posts. He has a proof that God exists and that God wrote the Bible. Check his posts to verify that he wrote it, hence it is true. So it is settled then, Earth is flat and is 6000 years old. You are still a little off. Science shows that the earth is flat. Just go outside in Kansas any time of the day or night. |
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We barely understand much of anything about the universe. There is no way to understand about the nature of God, Who was outside of the universe when He made it, is outside of the universe and nature that He made as well as within it. There is no cycle of infinity. Entropy proves that there is a beginning.
Machines like nature of the universe rebuttal
BADecker believes that machines need a maker and that maker has to be a god.
BADekcer KNOWS that machines need makers. Let's see a car or TV or cyclotron that just popped into existence without being made. There is absolutely not one machine in nature that can be shown to break the pattern of machines being made. If there is, where is it? All machines of nature were made through the process of cause and effect. The proof of God is explained more, here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. Probability math and irreducible complexity are only two of the many things that show and prove that evolution is impossible. Since scientists know this, they have made science fiction for themselves in the evolution idea. However, they gradually change the definition of "evolution" over time, to wiggle out from under their faulty evidence that proves an embarrassment to them. The website listed doesn't go far enough to explain the way all-pervading cause and effect make changes. The changes have been programmed into the universe through cause and effect. Cause and effect was set into motion by God... whatever God might be. Check the links for the proof that God exists to see how this works.
BADecker then claims that this is only theory. The reality is that science is disproving/proving all theories we (humans) have believed for years. That is the nature of science. For it to be tested by others. People like BADecker will continually use their same argument of assumptions to state there is no proof that god does not exist.
When explanations in science are limited, the knowledge that God exists are limited, as well. The reality is that history has shown that early Vikings believed "lightning flashed whenever Thor threw his hammer". Science has proven this incorrect. Getting into religion again, right?
Nations looking for god rebuttal
BADecker claims that people are looking for how the universe was made. This is true. However, BADecker then claims that because the answers are still not found, the answer must be a god.
Since science shows that God created the universe - even though the little bit of science that we know doesn't explain much of anything about the nature of God - it isn't a "must be" answer. The way the scientific laws of cause and effect, entropy, and complexity work together, prove that God exists. WRONG.... this is not proof. This is an assumption again on BADecker's part. Science is unlocking secrets every day. Religion is being disproven daily and BADecker continues to hold on to his mindless views.
Nothing is proof to someone who doesn't understand it... but especially to someone who doesn't want to understand it. The proof of this can be found by comparing what stats says against the proof for the existence of God found in the proof links, above. You are the only person to believe your links are proof little man. How about you provide real proof of your god. Your assumptions mean nothing. Now all of a sudden, you not only have penetrated the whole universe to see that God doesn't exist anywhere, but you have also checked the hearts and minds of all people on earth, as well as those in the ISS, to see that none of them believe the way I do. Perhaps you should seek psychiatric help somewhere, before you literally do go off the deep end. Fun doing things this way. Whos your Psych? Ill give that person a call. Actually, different. You are the one claiming the assumptions. So, for you atheism is not a real thing. Yet you state that it is in other posts. So, it is you contradicting yourself. I, on the other hand, know that science proves that God exists, and that atheism doesn't exist in the minds of thinking people. So, we both agree that atheism is not solidly real, even though we disagree about God. Finally. An on topic move towards agreement regarding atheism. Puddleduck..... can you show me where i say Atheism isnt real? I have always claimed myself as an atheist. You make assumptions to prove to yourself your god exists. The rest of us think you are full of shit. Follow the 4 highlighted sections up. EDIT: There was a time when I thought your fighting against God was a real fight against God. I am coming to understand that you have such a low IQ that you barely know what you are talking about when you speak it. After all, I have to highlight the things you say just to remind you that you said them. You can't even figure out where to look without my highlighting. There is nothing wrong with having a low IQ. Your stubbornness is probably your high quality that offsets your low IQ. So, you have good points right along with the bad... same as everyone else. My point in this edit is, I need to give you more credit where the credit is due, the strength of your blind stubbornness. |
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All I see are idiots after idiots, what son? when you say God sent His son it means that a male penetrated a female and after 9 months a child was born.
Sent to be killed so you idiots can do whatever you want and then go have fun in heaven right?
I don't get it why would you people blame something environmental on someone else? kids in pictures are environmental but not that God didn't know anything about them no, first you guys stop killing/ raping/ stealing then ask for a perfect world, everything you see are signs of God, He can do whatever He wants and no one can stop him.
one question> why do you care if there is any God or not at all? now that some claim that there is and here is what He has asked you to do, are you doing them, are you following the path?
Just live your life as you see fit until you die, and don't say later that no one told you, that no one warned you, don't say later that why didn't you send some one to bring us something to guide us?
You have been given the chance and the warnings, from there it's all up to you, stop making excuses and argue with other people while they are clueless as all of us, some of us have faith and have received the grace as the result but some still struggling because have doubts in our hearts.
You don't believe in God? fine, it's not like anyone can keep you safe or hidden from Him, when God wills something there is nothing to be done to stop Him, who do you think you are to defy a power capable of creating galaxies? please we all are just tiny little things mingling on a tiny little planet yet with the audacity beyond our capabilities.
one question> why do you care if there is any God or not at all? . Because if your god calls himself a god he ain't much of a god i have way more power . I can pick up a simple cup your god cannot do anything so i am way more powerful. <> If God wasn't right with you, blind as you are to His Presence, you wouldn't even be able to consider picking up a cup, to say nothing about doing it. Your God can't post here. He is an idiot just like you. Ask him, I dare you. What Presence do you speak of? Are you mad? When you post here, it is God moving the cause and effect that makes you able to post. He would rather that you didn't post things against Him. He is getting tired of maintaining your life for you and essentially upholding your posts, when all you do is badmouth him. But He realizes the greatness you could be if you would simply move over to be a Christian, on His side, in favor of Him. So He is patient, not wanting to withdraw Himself from your every move, thereby allowing you to fail and die. Turn, now while you have the opportunity to live. I was born into Christian family and I was Christian until I was about 8 or around the time I realized that Santa Claus was not real. It took another decade and a half to completely recover from this addiction. God could not help me either way because he fucking does not exist. Ask him to post here. C'mon God, let's go. You can type in English. Can you? Post in Latin or Greek, or whatever language you want. Let's go pussy. Post it! God was right along side of you when you posted that. He was working the biological activities in your body that allowed you to post. He was moving the electrons along the synapses in your brain. He is patiently waiting for you to turn to Him. But His patience for people who remain against Him will not last forever. If you don't turn, He will ultimately withdraw Himself from you, and at that time you will wish He had withdrawn yourself from you, as well. God exists in the minds of all people because He loves them. Since they would perish without Him, He holds them up by existing in their minds, and in the whole universe, for them. Don't force Him away from yourself. You can't live without Him as is proven by the fact that you can't do anything supernatural. The proofs for the existence of God: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. |
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Is Christianity poision? Of course it is. It's not even worth debating, it just simply is. And that's that.
But wait......
Before all the Christians pour on here, red cheeks, chests puffing up, palms sweaty, ready to rip my head off.
Just stop and think of Christianity like alcohol.
Alcohol (ethyl alcohol) is a poison, just like Christianity.
Many many people all over the world enjoy an alcoholic beverage drink, with no harmful effects. Just like Christianity.
Moderate alcohol use has possible health benefits, but it's not risk-free. Just like Christianity.
It can make a social event better, happier and friendlier. Just like Christianity.
But of course take too much and:
Drinking too much alcohol, and your ability to think clearly is in trouble. Just like Christainity.
Drink too much and people tend to act irrational, wanting to punch each others light out. Just like Christianity.
So you see Christianity (in moderation) is a good thing, it all depends on the dosage.
However, take too much (like BADlogic) and it becomes poisionous, you become like the drunk twat at a wedding. Flopping about, telling unfunny jokes how you once shagged the bride, urinating on the dance floor.
Giving Christianity a bad name, like BADlogic.
Christianity is life. Christianity: 1. Describes the source of life, God; 2. Shows how God gave us Life in the beginning; 3. Expresses how we threw life away in the face of God's warning; 4. Documents the them of the Savior, Jesus, Who is life; 5. Presents how Jesus brought life back to us; 6. Maintains our freedom to accept or reject the new life; 7. Expresses what our new life in Heaven will be basically like. Christianity is the only source and upholding of life. There is nothing else regarding life. The choice is still open to you to accept or reject life. However, because of the depth to which God place Himself into our nature and the universe, rejecting life will be a very agonizing thing. In the beginning, God gave Adam and Eve life. God warned them about eating the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. He told them they would die if they ate the fruit. Spiritually, they died the day they ate the fruit. Physically they died as well, later. All the pains and troubles of life came into the universe when Adam and Eve disobeyed God. Heed the warning of God... the warning shown through Christianity. Christianity is the only way to future life. Future life will be fun. But future death will be terrible. The hope of Christianity is that every one of us will gain the good eternal life. If this is poison for you, then you love death. |
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Christianity is logical. While Christinity does teach many admirable good things, such as "love your neighbours", "turn the other cheek" etc, it's core revolves around salivation of Christ which is totally illogical at every level, and inconsistent with the "loving God" concept. Why would anyone born with an ounce of common sense beg for forgiveness to God for the way they were made, for the way he made them?  At it's core, Christianity contradicts Christianity. Illogical. What you say is logical. Even the ignorant statements you make are logical for you. |
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Positive effects.....
Negative effects.......
The existence of ‘religious struggle’ in elderly patients was predictive of greater risk of mortality in a study by Pargament et al. (2001). Results indicate that patients, with a previously sound religious life, experienced a 19% to 28% greater mortality due to the belief that God was supposedly punishing them or abandoning them.
Did this part of the study take into account the faulty medical which kills way more people faster than they would die if they did NOT seek medical help? Many things in this world can't be explained scientifically, but one thing is for sure, there is no need to argue about it because even with those with higher medical knowledge can't even explain it, thus it shows that no matter what happens life must go on. Perhaps there is no need to argue. But we should argue anyway. Why? Because argument is the thing that brings a lot of information out into the open. argue
[ahr-gyoo]
verb (used without object), argued, arguing.
1. to present reasons for or against a thing:
He argued in favor of capital punishment.
2. to contend in oral disagreement; dispute:
The senator argued with the president about the new tax bill.
verb (used with object), argued, arguing.
3. to state the reasons for or against:
The lawyers argued the case.
4. to maintain in reasoning:
to argue that the news report must be wrong.
5. to persuade, drive, etc., by reasoning:
to argue someone out of a plan.
6. to show; prove; imply; indicate:
His clothes argue poverty.
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All I see are idiots after idiots, what son? when you say God sent His son it means that a male penetrated a female and after 9 months a child was born.
Sent to be killed so you idiots can do whatever you want and then go have fun in heaven right?
I don't get it why would you people blame something environmental on someone else? kids in pictures are environmental but not that God didn't know anything about them no, first you guys stop killing/ raping/ stealing then ask for a perfect world, everything you see are signs of God, He can do whatever He wants and no one can stop him.
one question> why do you care if there is any God or not at all? now that some claim that there is and here is what He has asked you to do, are you doing them, are you following the path?
Just live your life as you see fit until you die, and don't say later that no one told you, that no one warned you, don't say later that why didn't you send some one to bring us something to guide us?
You have been given the chance and the warnings, from there it's all up to you, stop making excuses and argue with other people while they are clueless as all of us, some of us have faith and have received the grace as the result but some still struggling because have doubts in our hearts.
You don't believe in God? fine, it's not like anyone can keep you safe or hidden from Him, when God wills something there is nothing to be done to stop Him, who do you think you are to defy a power capable of creating galaxies? please we all are just tiny little things mingling on a tiny little planet yet with the audacity beyond our capabilities.
one question> why do you care if there is any God or not at all? . Because if your god calls himself a god he ain't much of a god i have way more power . I can pick up a simple cup your god cannot do anything so i am way more powerful. <> If God wasn't right with you, blind as you are to His Presence, you wouldn't even be able to consider picking up a cup, to say nothing about doing it. Your God can't post here. He is an idiot just like you. Ask him, I dare you. What Presence do you speak of? Are you mad? When you post here, it is God moving the cause and effect that makes you able to post. He would rather that you didn't post things against Him. He is getting tired of maintaining your life for you and essentially upholding your posts, when all you do is badmouth him. But He realizes the greatness you could be if you would simply move over to be a Christian, on His side, in favor of Him. So He is patient, not wanting to withdraw Himself from your every move, thereby allowing you to fail and die. Turn, now while you have the opportunity to live. |
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I need a good laugh.
Look in the mirror. Nice! An oldie but a goodie! The FE theme is one of the few ways nomad13666 can maintain his self esteem after he looks in the mirror. I mean, he is probably a very handsome guy, but such a look disgusts him - you can see by all the pictures he posts - so he comes to FE to forget how good looking he is. |
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How come that Christianity is poison that in fact it instills good virtues and manners to its followers? It is not Christianity that is poisonous but to some officials (religious) who take advantages in their positions. There are some who use their positions in making themselves rich that is proven by the history but it should not tarnish the fact that there are also religious officials who stay loyal with their sworn responsibility and dedicated their lives in their service. Moloch simply doesn't realize that there is a difference between Christianity and people. Christianity is a complex concept. People are complex beings. Complex beings don't necessarily have to obey complex concepts, even though they often say that they do. Moloch simply isn't complex enough to understand this. So, he says that Christianity is poison, when it is poisonous people who are poison. Moloch, thereby, shows us that he is one of the poisonous people. |
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Moloch is only asking you to show your faith in your religion.
Your noncompliance shows you know it is false.
Congratulations on admitting there is no god.
the fact that I am replying shows my faith, and that your thinking is generally faulty. Next step of faith is for you to eat your poison. The closest that I have to poison is, your poison which has infiltrated you, and is spilling out in your words against God and Christianity all over this forum. God has protected you from it so far. But He may not continue to do so in the future. Ultimately, if you maintain this your poison until you die, you will be destroyed in Hell by it. My faith regarding your poison, which you call my poison, is the same kind of faith Jesus answered the devil with when the devil tempted Him. From Matthew 4:7: Jesus answered him, “It is also written: ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test.’” You don't event know what God is, you are an imbecile. You read some book and repeat verses like a parrot. You don't understand any of it. Why the book was written and who wrote it? Christianity is logical. Christians see in nature that God created the universe. Perhaps few Christians understand the science that proves the existence of God, but they don't really need the science proof, already having the nature proof. Christians, also, understand the miracle nature of the Bible. The Bible being a miracle, must have come about through God's making of it. This being fact - and being proven out by scientific examination, as well - shows that nobody, including Christians, NEEDS to know what God is to understand that He exists. This being fact, even you have the ability to understand that God exists. Why don't you join us, and live forever in Heaven? After all, it doesn't hurt you in any way to do this. Our lives here are completely lost at death... at least regarding our position on earth, are activity, our friends and relatives, our property, etc. Since it is all lost anyway, why not set it aside a little... just enough to acknowledge God and His salvation desires for you, and so be saved? You really don't have anything to lose, since everything is essentially lost at death, anyway. And you have a whole lot more to gain. Why continue to call Christianity poison, when it is people who act in poisonous ways, whether they are Christian or not? Christianity is here to save us all from the poison. |
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We barely understand much of anything about the universe. There is no way to understand about the nature of God, Who was outside of the universe when He made it, is outside of the universe and nature that He made as well as within it. There is no cycle of infinity. Entropy proves that there is a beginning.
Machines like nature of the universe rebuttal
BADecker believes that machines need a maker and that maker has to be a god.
BADekcer KNOWS that machines need makers. Let's see a car or TV or cyclotron that just popped into existence without being made. There is absolutely not one machine in nature that can be shown to break the pattern of machines being made. If there is, where is it? All machines of nature were made through the process of cause and effect. The proof of God is explained more, here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. Probability math and irreducible complexity are only two of the many things that show and prove that evolution is impossible. Since scientists know this, they have made science fiction for themselves in the evolution idea. However, they gradually change the definition of "evolution" over time, to wiggle out from under their faulty evidence that proves an embarrassment to them. The website listed doesn't go far enough to explain the way all-pervading cause and effect make changes. The changes have been programmed into the universe through cause and effect. Cause and effect was set into motion by God... whatever God might be. Check the links for the proof that God exists to see how this works.
BADecker then claims that this is only theory. The reality is that science is disproving/proving all theories we (humans) have believed for years. That is the nature of science. For it to be tested by others. People like BADecker will continually use their same argument of assumptions to state there is no proof that god does not exist.
When explanations in science are limited, the knowledge that God exists are limited, as well. The reality is that history has shown that early Vikings believed "lightning flashed whenever Thor threw his hammer". Science has proven this incorrect. Getting into religion again, right?
Nations looking for god rebuttal
BADecker claims that people are looking for how the universe was made. This is true. However, BADecker then claims that because the answers are still not found, the answer must be a god.
Since science shows that God created the universe - even though the little bit of science that we know doesn't explain much of anything about the nature of God - it isn't a "must be" answer. The way the scientific laws of cause and effect, entropy, and complexity work together, prove that God exists. WRONG.... this is not proof. This is an assumption again on BADecker's part. Science is unlocking secrets every day. Religion is being disproven daily and BADecker continues to hold on to his mindless views.
Nothing is proof to someone who doesn't understand it... but especially to someone who doesn't want to understand it. The proof of this can be found by comparing what stats says against the proof for the existence of God found in the proof links, above. You are the only person to believe your links are proof little man. How about you provide real proof of your god. Your assumptions mean nothing. Now all of a sudden, you not only have penetrated the whole universe to see that God doesn't exist anywhere, but you have also checked the hearts and minds of all people on earth, as well as those in the ISS, to see that none of them believe the way I do. Perhaps you should seek psychiatric help somewhere, before you literally do go off the deep end. Similar to the same assumptions you make. Fun doing things this way. Whos your Psych? Ill give that person a call. Actually, different. You are the one claiming the assumptions. So, for you atheism is not a real thing. Yet you state that it is in other posts. So, it is you contradicting yourself. I, on the other hand, know that science proves that God exists, and that atheism doesn't exist in the minds of thinking people. So, we both agree that atheism is not solidly real, even though we disagree about God. Finally. An on topic move towards agreement regarding atheism. |
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Type in google earth, mystery solved. Welcome to 2017  Google Earth is a US/Vatican/Jewish lie, a manipulated program to make people believe that Earth is round. Moon is a hologram, there are no "south" and "north" pole and the fact that those "opposite" poles see different sky, well that's because there's a dome over Earth and those "starts" are just a couple of kilometers away from the ground and they are just strong floodlights. Wake up sheeple. Yabut (If I was Jewish, I would say Jabut), what about the chemtrails? |
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How did you determine God's sex? That is what I am talking about. You personified the 'unknown' and you think it is a male.
You are just making conjectures based on the Bible stories.
Have you ever thought of using a dictionary? father
[fah-th er]
noun
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5. a person who has originated or established something:
the father of modern psychology; the founding fathers.
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10. (initial capital letter) Theology. the Supreme Being and Creator; God.
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12. the Father, Theology. the first person of the Trinity.
Or is it that you don't have dictionaries where you are at? Ok, so I was right. You don't know what God is. You said he is the 'undefined', 'unknown', yet you personified HIM, as a fertile male based on what someone WROTE in the book. So in your world, Bible is all you need to know, Bible has all the proofs you need for the existence of God. After all, someone (God) wrote it, right. You are a retard. Don't you see the problem? 'Undefined' cannot be a 'father'. If you say HE is the father, then you anthropomorphized the 'unknown', 'undefined'. You created HIM in your head. You asked how I determined God's sex. The answer is that the dictionary and the Bible say it. In science, God is essentially undefined. Go cry in the corner. |
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Your ignorance is showing... looks blissful
Hey, I believe in science, too.  |
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All I see are idiots after idiots, what son? when you say God sent His son it means that a male penetrated a female and after 9 months a child was born.
Sent to be killed so you idiots can do whatever you want and then go have fun in heaven right?
I don't get it why would you people blame something environmental on someone else? kids in pictures are environmental but not that God didn't know anything about them no, first you guys stop killing/ raping/ stealing then ask for a perfect world, everything you see are signs of God, He can do whatever He wants and no one can stop him.
one question> why do you care if there is any God or not at all? now that some claim that there is and here is what He has asked you to do, are you doing them, are you following the path?
Just live your life as you see fit until you die, and don't say later that no one told you, that no one warned you, don't say later that why didn't you send some one to bring us something to guide us?
You have been given the chance and the warnings, from there it's all up to you, stop making excuses and argue with other people while they are clueless as all of us, some of us have faith and have received the grace as the result but some still struggling because have doubts in our hearts.
You don't believe in God? fine, it's not like anyone can keep you safe or hidden from Him, when God wills something there is nothing to be done to stop Him, who do you think you are to defy a power capable of creating galaxies? please we all are just tiny little things mingling on a tiny little planet yet with the audacity beyond our capabilities.
one question> why do you care if there is any God or not at all? . Because if your god calls himself a god he ain't much of a god i have way more power . I can pick up a simple cup your god cannot do anything so i am way more powerful. <> If God wasn't right with you, blind as you are to His Presence, you wouldn't even be able to consider picking up a cup, to say nothing about doing it. |
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Sagan died. Jesus died, arose from death, and lives forever. Glory to Jesus God! |
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It's April. Or were you talking about next year?  |
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How did you determine God's sex? That is what I am talking about. You personified the 'unknown' and you think it is a male.
You are just making conjectures based on the Bible stories.
Have you ever thought of using a dictionary? father
[fah-th er]
noun
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5. a person who has originated or established something:
the father of modern psychology; the founding fathers.
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10. (initial capital letter) Theology. the Supreme Being and Creator; God.
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12. the Father, Theology. the first person of the Trinity.
Or is it that you don't have dictionaries where you are at? |
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