Christianity: - Study God's Law so that you can be a better person, and so that life will work out better for you; - Study God's Gospel so that you can go to Heaven to live in Joy with God, and your family who have gone there ahead of you.  |
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God took the innocent child home to be with Him in glory and joy. Why? Because Pharaoh and Moloch would have turned the innocent child into a guilty child, by convincing it that there is no God. |
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I am not all-knowing but, it is really hard to comment on a topic that you have little or no information on what you are against or what do you believe. All I saw in this thread is ignorance on both parties, just insulting each other rather than expressing each other's point of view and have a rational explanation based on real facts, rather than on speculations. Shame it's a waste of time, why did I even read back here.
You also saw why atheists hate religion. It's simple. Everybody likes freedom. Atheists want freedom from religion. But atheism IS religion. They hate their slavery to it. |
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Christianity is poison, because it preaches weakness and torment as the path of truth. It destroys a person's mind and does not allow him to live his own full life.
Why only Christianity? Every religion is a means of enslavement of the people. All the activities are intended to live at the expense of believers. Religion is more of a vampire than poison. It is not profitable to kill the victim. It is advantageous for it to parasitize. Christianity is the only religion that offers eternal life to all who believe it. Jesus died on the cross, and arose on the third day, to remove sinfulness from people. The only reason people die temporarily, is to remove their sinful thinking from themselves. All people will arise from the dead in the resurrection on the last day. |
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Christianity is poison, because it preaches weakness and torment as the path of truth. It destroys a person's mind and does not allow him to live his own full life.
Why only Christianity? Every religion is a means of enslavement of the people. All the activities are intended to live at the expense of believers. Religion is more of a vampire than poison. It is not profitable to kill the victim. It is advantageous for it to parasitize. It's difficult to place all religions in the same basket I suppose it's mostly the Abrahamic religions causing grief among the world (Jews, Christians, Muslims) I haven't seen many/any reports of violence/terrorism from followers of Shinto, Buddhism, Hinduism, Sikhism, Jainism, Satanism, Paganism, etc... It's really just the 3 Abrahamic religions causing trouble... the other religions are rather benign (except perhaps for believing in a few fairy tales) Actually, it is those who oppose the Abrahamic religions who are causing the trouble. God says that the descendents of Abraham sill be strong. Why do folks oppose God by opposing the Abrahamic religions? They will lose if they do this. |
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YES YES YES YES. even though you ask me many times if i believe in God my answer is a big YES.I dont care what people say because divine creation theory is a big evidence that we are created by God.Do you think everythings can excess without any God who van created everything.read BIBLE so that you can fully understand that we have God who streghthen us and provide everything our necessities
Yes, God does exist. But the Bible is written by people and there is a lot of untruthful information in it. Then read the Koran, the Koran is a collection of verses of Allah are posted. The verses of the Quran never change, no man dared to change the contents of the Quran. All that is described in the Qur'an in this world, including the existence of God. Clearly written in the Koran. The Qur'an was also created by people just there, another philosophical and religious trend is depicted. My friend, it is the Quran which is now sold in the world made by human hands, but that humans create simply the packaging alone. Humans made in the form of a book to be simple and be in the form of a book. The contents of the Quran, all the verses nothing is changed, all the verses revealed by God, written again by humans so that amounts to a lot and spread to the whole world. Your Allah was an uneducated 6th century moron who believed in winged horses. That is what happened. Muhammad was very clever, however. He started a religion that forced followers to pay the tithe. He forced followers to drag all other people into the religion or... "kill the infidels." He forced followers to be suspect of being religious apostates by all fellow Muslims, and to be executed if they didn't become penitent fast enough, thereby forcing them all into a form of Stockholm Syndrome to keep them faithful. All it took was a handful of loyal, vicious, ferocious compatriots to get it started, and it has fed itself ever since. That's why Islam grows. It is forced to grow by religious law, by forced tithing, and by Stockholm Syndrome where everyone fears his neighbor and brother. Pretty clever of Muhammad. Sounds a bit like Christianity to me! That's because you don't want to admit that Christianity never directs or dictates for its followers to do violence. |
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Your third life either begins in Heaven... ...or... ... ends in Hell. |
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The Bible record is eye witness accounts, and is way more accurate.
@Puddleduck....... When Jesus was in the desert for forty days (Matthew 4) or praying in the Garden at Gethsemane (Mark 14), He was by Himself. How did anyone know what He said or did, since there were no eyewitnesses to what happened? Kind of wrecks your eyewitness account buddy. Keep trying. You're kinda off topic, aren't you? Where is the atheism in the things that you say? John 8:13-17: 13 The Pharisees challenged him, “Here you are, appearing as your own witness; your testimony is not valid.”
14 Jesus answered, “Even if I testify on my own behalf, my testimony is valid, for I know where I came from and where I am going. But you have no idea where I come from or where I am going. 15 You judge by human standards; I pass judgment on no one. 16 But if I do judge, my decisions are right, because I am not alone. I stand with the Father, who sent me. 17 In your own Law it is written that the testimony of two men is valid. 18 I am one who testifies for myself; my other witness is the Father, who sent me.” The point? Atheism doesn't really exist. It almost does, as a religion, in those who love to maintain fiction as reality. |
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The Bible record is eye witness accounts, and is way more accurate.
@Puddleduck....... When Jesus was in the desert for forty days (Matthew 4) or praying in the Garden at Gethsemane (Mark 14), He was by Himself. How did anyone know what He said or did, since there were no eyewitnesses to what happened? Kind of wrecks your eyewitness account buddy. Keep trying. The guy complains about "assumptions in science" LOL How about the Genesis creation account? I'm guessing it was done by a chief goat herder who went to a cave for 40 days to pray and asked God for permission to travel back in time (only 5000 years back to the time the world was created) to see the creation and write about it. God in his wisdom, granted the request since the guy was wacking off for 40 days straight, so God took pity on him. Then he bought a winged horse (those were available back then because of Entropy), packed few stone tablets, an iron chisel and a hammer he picked up raiding the local village. For oxygen storage he packed 72 pig's bladders, he put a mask made from mud and olive oil, you know to protect him from the cosmic rays. Anyways, the lad traveled few thousand years back in time to a corner in the universe where Entropy was still high so that he could observe how the God made the universe. He did not have to drink or eat for 6 days because Entropy allowed him to slow down his metabolic rate to minimum, yet still allowing him to chisel out the story on his tablets. Then he traveled back in time and sold his eyewitness account to the highest bidder. He sold his winged horse to some Arab merchant. The horse that carried Muhammad to heaven was bred from that stock. Everybody knows that. Bible is a true eyewitness account. It is written record of how the world was created by the almighty God. Without Bible we would be lost. All scientists check with Bible eyewitness records every day, some do that five times a day, while facing the Jerusalem. Everybody (in my church) knows that. It's beginning to become apparent that you don't believe in atheism at all! Seems like every religious thing you talk about has a basis in some kind of theistic religion. You poor, miserable, mixed up guy. You really need to get yourself over to a psychiatrist before you go off the deep end. |
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I would gladly attempt to break the proof of God if there was any. Assumptions and interpretations do not belong to the 'proof' section, they belong to the belief section. As a result, the shit that you keep on posting is not proof, it's something that you heard from Bob Dutko's cds and it needs no 'step-by-step rebuttal' (funny how you overuse exactly these words that Bob Dutko overuses when he's pissed off at people laughing at his moronic ideas). Also, you trying to become a bit aggressive is pathetic and only demonstrates how desperate you are in proving you own the truth. Exactly like any other apologist. My conclusion is and will be the same untill you come up with some decent stuff and stop acting like a bitchy, dumb apologist: fuck off and come back when you really thought about something. We can do this for a long time by the way. It's up to you when you drop the bullshit and start being serious. I know, I know. If your typing skills are good, and if you have a reasonable knowledge of the language, and if you have the time (or are paid to), you can sit around and blab all day. The point is, your blabbing is simply that, blabbing. Why? Because you can't seem to come up with any logical step-by-step rebutting of the proof that God exists. The proof has step-by-step application of the scientific laws and evidences. But you haven't been able to rebut it. Poor baby. And like a baby, all you say is blabber. We're ready. Blab some more.  Dear apologist monkey, you have not provided any proof and you became as annoying as a catholic priest in an orphanage. Get the fuck out of here before I hitchslap you and your whole cult of cat ass lickers and child molesters. I advice everyone to simply ignore or just insult this dumb monkey until he leaves or at least comes up with some new things instead of trying to repeat the same shit hoping that will make it true. The fact that you are full of insults without anything to back them up, shows that you are simply another troll. Still waiting for you to show some step-by-step rebuttal of the proof that God exists. The fact that you can't, and especially that you can't even seem to try, shows that you are just another troll. You destabilize your own position by calling the proof no proof at all. But if it weren't proof, you should be able to, at least, make a little start at rebuttal much easier that if you really thought it were proof. So, thanks again for adding your support to the fact that God exists, even though it is grudging support. Having fun, yet? |
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God is good all the eternity. Are you sure? He does not stop people from killing each other in his names. 6 million of Jesus's compatriots were gased to death by Jesus followers. Does Jesus give a fuck? No. Why not? Because myths cannot stop killings. Only rational people can stop it. Evil people always use religion for their own purposes. This is evidenced by history, and at the same time, God does not participate here. Faith and God only in the soul of man and this is purely personal. Otherwise we can cite an example of a crusade or even the actions of the Inquisition. Religion was created by evil people to achieve their goals and control other naive people. Religion was created by God to get as many people to be saved as possible. Over the ages, people have warped the good religion of God. Why God needs religion to "save" people? If he created everything and rules the world, he can just do whatever he wants and that includes "saving" people. Not sure from what, but whatever....it is your logic, not mine. Assuming that you are alive, God has saved you. It's only temporary, however, to give you a chance to think the thing out, and decide if you want to remain saved, or if you would rather be damned. So far, it looks like you are choosing damnation. God didn't use religion to save you. He created religion as the method whereby you make your choice. If He hadn't held your choice open for you, you would be damned outright. Same for everyone else. God, Himself, doesn't need religion for anything. God can do anything, and probably has. This time around, God decided to do something a bit difficult for Himself. He put a touch of Himself in you and all of us so that He can't just snap His fingers, so to speak, and wullah, it happens. Rather, He has allowed you the ability to use your God-part to make your own choice - salvation or damnation. As long as you live, He holds this choice open for you. God's logic is way greater than either yours or mine. However, you know this from all your religious studies. You don't need me to tell it to you, but you really need yourself to lie about it to yourself as you have been doing. |
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You are getting to be more like Horace all the time... lots of talk, but nothing to back up anything you say. Just study the history. There are cultures older than 10,000 years old, structures, tools, paintings etc. How the fuck did the Egyptians build the pyramids if the flood happened around the time they built them. You needed more than 50,000 slaves over the course of decades to build them. Noah with his crew would not cut it. You are as ignorant as the flat Earthers you deny everything that does not fit your world view. No matter how strong the physical evidence against it is More talk from you. Anybody can say that there are cultures older than 10,000 years. But when you get into the details of how they determined this, you find that they really don't know, that their ages are guestimations at best. There is evidence that some of the earlier pyramids, and the great pyramid were built before the flood. However, what does the Flood have to do with building the pyramids? Those people were less into entropy than we are, and had a lot more strength, and a lot more reproduction fertility. Populations sprang up much faster. You don't know that you needed any slaves at all to build the pyramids. Some 5-y-o evidence says that the builders were hired professionals. You are as ignorant as the flat Earthers you deny everything that does not fit your world view. No matter how strong the proof against it is. Ok then believe in your fairy tale. You are wrong regardless of what you believe. 7000 year old Earth is a ridiculous idea but unfortunately for you it makes a perfect sense. I have been talking about proof that God exists, and understanding that the earth is less than 7,000 years old. Look again at the mitochondrial evidence that shows that the earth is probably 6,000 to 6,500 years old. See the "Talking about Atheism..." thread at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1771311.msg18643045#msg18643045. You certainly are welcome to believe your fairy-tale religion that the earth and universe are billions of years old. And why is it a religion? Because you have no proof, and only flawed interpretation of the evidence. Even the scientists who make these age statements, often say that they are unsure. |
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I would gladly attempt to break the proof of God if there was any. Assumptions and interpretations do not belong to the 'proof' section, they belong to the belief section. As a result, the shit that you keep on posting is not proof, it's something that you heard from Bob Dutko's cds and it needs no 'step-by-step rebuttal' (funny how you overuse exactly these words that Bob Dutko overuses when he's pissed off at people laughing at his moronic ideas). Also, you trying to become a bit aggressive is pathetic and only demonstrates how desperate you are in proving you own the truth. Exactly like any other apologist. My conclusion is and will be the same untill you come up with some decent stuff and stop acting like a bitchy, dumb apologist: fuck off and come back when you really thought about something. We can do this for a long time by the way. It's up to you when you drop the bullshit and start being serious. I know, I know. If your typing skills are good, and if you have a reasonable knowledge of the language, and if you have the time (or are paid to), you can sit around and blab all day. The point is, your blabbing is simply that, blabbing. Why? Because you can't seem to come up with any logical step-by-step rebutting of the proof that God exists. The proof has step-by-step application of the scientific laws and evidences. But you haven't been able to rebut it. Poor baby. And like a baby, all you say is blabber. We're ready. Blab some more. |
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You are getting to be more like Horace all the time... lots of talk, but nothing to back up anything you say. Just study the history. There are cultures older than 10,000 years old, structures, tools, paintings etc. How the fuck did the Egyptians build the pyramids if the flood happened around the time they built them. You needed more than 50,000 slaves over the course of decades to build them. Noah with his crew would not cut it. You are as ignorant as the flat Earthers you deny everything that does not fit your world view. No matter how strong the physical evidence against it is More talk from you. Anybody can say that there are cultures older than 10,000 years. But when you get into the details of how they determined this, you find that they really don't know, that their ages are guestimations at best. There is evidence that some of the earlier pyramids, and the great pyramid were built before the flood. However, what does the Flood have to do with building the pyramids? Those people were less into entropy than we are, and had a lot more strength, and a lot more reproduction fertility. Populations sprang up much faster. You don't know that you needed any slaves at all to build the pyramids. Some 5-y-o evidence says that the builders were hired professionals. You are as ignorant as the flat Earthers you deny everything that does not fit your world view. No matter how strong the proof against it is. |
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Interpretations are not proof, exact facts are. When everyone tells you that shit you keel posting is a fail, you should get a clue. But apologists don't get too many clues, don't they? As for the proof, you may not pass the burden of proof onto me or anybody else who said they do not believe a God exists. It is your burden, not ours. You claim a God exists, you come with the exact proof. But none of you will since you have no proof. Now do as I said and fuck off outta here, you Bob Dutko ass licker. Science laws are not interpretations. If you don't like science laws, forget this topic. This topic is about science proof that God exists. However... If you decide to examine the science laws and how they are applied, remember that God isn't explained at all. The only reason I use the masculine pronoun with Him, is, that that's the way most people understand Him. The scientific proof for Him doesn't explain if He has a gender or not. It doesn't explain any religious aspects of Him. It simply shows that He exists... whatever He may be. No, dumb fuck, scientific laws are not interpretation. Your bullshit is an interpretation of scientific laws and it is complete fantasy. Stop coming up with hypocrite ways of persuading this discussion in your favour, it will not work. Please fuck off and try to find your own ideas instead of pasting the same links that you've learnt on Bob Dutko's bullshit cd's. Apologist. You're a kinda sad specimen of humanity. At least stats and af_newbie attempt to break the proof for God down a little. More than likely you can't even read it. What? Does your mama browse the Internet for you? No step-by-step rebuttal of the proof at all! I certainly support your yakety yak against me and the proof. Since you don't have anything except yakety yak, you are shown for what you are >>> a rambling stooge for some idiot group of idiot atheists. As Han Solo said, "Laugh it up, Fuzzball." All the way to idiot stardom. We like it. We like it.  Again, the proof for the existence of God links: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. Unfortunately, he is right. You are cherry picking your science like you pick your Bible. You are as stupid as flat Earthers believing in 6000-7000 years old Earth. There are cultures with more history than your Bible suggest. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_ChinaSo stop your Entropy nonsense. You are not impressing anyone. You are as stupid as those who wrote the Bible. You are getting to be more like Horace all the time... lots of talk, but nothing to back up anything you say. |
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^^^ KnobGobblaw
What's the matter? Can't prove the earth is flat? So you gotta get off topic like this? How's funny farm life? EDIT: vvv Truly pitied. |
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Interpretations are not proof, exact facts are. When everyone tells you that shit you keel posting is a fail, you should get a clue. But apologists don't get too many clues, don't they? As for the proof, you may not pass the burden of proof onto me or anybody else who said they do not believe a God exists. It is your burden, not ours. You claim a God exists, you come with the exact proof. But none of you will since you have no proof. Now do as I said and fuck off outta here, you Bob Dutko ass licker. Science laws are not interpretations. If you don't like science laws, forget this topic. This topic is about science proof that God exists. However... If you decide to examine the science laws and how they are applied, remember that God isn't explained at all. The only reason I use the masculine pronoun with Him, is, that that's the way most people understand Him. The scientific proof for Him doesn't explain if He has a gender or not. It doesn't explain any religious aspects of Him. It simply shows that He exists... whatever He may be. No, dumb fuck, scientific laws are not interpretation. Your bullshit is an interpretation of scientific laws and it is complete fantasy. Stop coming up with hypocrite ways of persuading this discussion in your favour, it will not work. Please fuck off and try to find your own ideas instead of pasting the same links that you've learnt on Bob Dutko's bullshit cd's. Apologist. You're a kinda sad specimen of humanity. At least stats and af_newbie attempt to break the proof for God down a little. More than likely you can't even read it. What? Does your mama browse the Internet for you? No step-by-step rebuttal of the proof at all! I certainly support your yakety yak against me and the proof. Since you don't have anything except yakety yak, you are shown for what you are >>> a rambling stooge for some idiot group of idiot atheists. As Han Solo said, "Laugh it up, Fuzzball." All the way to idiot stardom. We like it. We like it. Again, the proof for the existence of God links: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. |
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Nigger, next you're going to try to sell us the idea that the moon is made of cheese... You mean it's not made of cheese? Damn! I've been lied to my whole life! But the cheese is some of the yummiest in space. |
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Interpretations are not proof, exact facts are. When everyone tells you that shit you keel posting is a fail, you should get a clue. But apologists don't get too many clues, don't they? As for the proof, you may not pass the burden of proof onto me or anybody else who said they do not believe a God exists. It is your burden, not ours. You claim a God exists, you come with the exact proof. But none of you will since you have no proof. Now do as I said and fuck off outta here, you Bob Dutko ass licker. Science laws are not interpretations. If you don't like science laws, forget this topic. This topic is about science proof that God exists. However... If you decide to examine the science laws and how they are applied, remember that God isn't explained at all. The only reason I use the masculine pronoun with Him, is, that that's the way most people understand Him. The scientific proof for Him doesn't explain if He has a gender or not. It doesn't explain any religious aspects of Him. It simply shows that He exists... whatever He may be. |
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