Oh come on, af_newbie. You know that most Muslims have no idea what Islam is either. If they did, they would become terrorists like the Koran and Hadiths state that they should be.  Every time an act of terror or shooting occurs, Muslims closely watch the news with extreme trepidation praying that the suspect is not Muslim. This is not because these terrorists are likely to be Muslim but rather because in the instances where they happen to be, we see amplified mass media coverage and extreme unjustified hatred towards Muslims. Muslims should be glad of this media coverage. It might wake them up to the fact that Islam is a religion of violence ( http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm) and not peace. I mean, you want to be faithful to your religion, don't you? So, either Muslims should: 1. Completely change Islam by ripping the violence out of the Koran; 2. Become violent, or; 3. Find a new religion; if they want to be faithful to a religion. |
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At least give the old traditions the benefit of the doubt until you find out why they exist. For example, it is tradition among Americans that if you win $10 million in the lottery, to go out and buy cars and houses and boats and maybe an airplane, etc. But it is tradition among Germans to ask their parents and family members how to invest the money, and how they can put it into the family business. This is why American lottery winners wind up poor, while German lottery winners get richer. |
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Oh come on, af_newbie. You know that most Muslims have no idea what Islam is either. If they did, they would become terrorists like the Koran and Hadiths state that they should be. |
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why are all terror activities carried out in the world are by people of muslim religion?Why cant muslims let peace be there in the world?Are people of only muslim origins terrorist?so trumps decision by banning muslim is 100% correct?
1. Non-Muslims make up the majority of terrorists in the United States: According to the FBI, 94% of terrorist attacks carried out in the United States from 1980 to 2005 have been by non-Muslims. This means that an American terrorist suspect is over nine times more likely to be a non-Muslim than a Muslim. According to this same report, there were more Jewish acts of terrorism in the United States than Islamic, yet when was the last time we heard about the threat of Jewish terrorism in the media? For the same exact reasons that we cannot blame the entire religion of Judaism or Christianity for the violent actions of those carrying out crimes under the names of these religions, we have absolutely no justifiable grounds to blame Muslims for terrorism.What the FBI says might be close to truth, if you leave out the fact the the FBI and other Government agencies are far greater terrorists, both here and abroad, than Muslims could ever think of being. |
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There is nothing but presumtions in your links, just as the presumption a God may or may not exist. Nothing there proves the existence of a God, it only gives a religious nonsensical interpretation of science. Therefore, since some intelligent people around already explained to you why they are bullshit, I have no reason to repeat it again. As I stated before, you are not able to properly understand reason or logic. That, or you are trolling. As for the ''orders' thing, you are completely mistaken. It's a pattern that you, followers, follow. Based on that pattern, I simply predicted what you were going to say next. I am as on topic as I could be, you are the one leading and I counter what you claim. Now, besides those bullshit links, your arguments are just modern religious indoctrinating crap, the same arguments you would get from any cultist who has no proof but has to convince people it's his way. As you can see, that's not going to work with me. Not the passive-aggresive attitude, not the mystical shit, not the 'humans can't understand God's way', nothing of this type. I expect you to prove the existence of a God. Your links have been disproven. If you do have something else, please, enlighten us. If not, please, don't resume yourself to that cultist monologue that I can hear at any corner of the street.
Almost everything in your posts is presumption, especially your spelling of the word "presumptions."  There is nothing wrong with your believing that science doesn't prove the existence of God. In fact, faith is healthy. It's your religion. I applaud you that you have religion. But, keep searching. You just might find a truthful religion if you do. You might even find the way to Heaven. I don't 'believe' science doesn't prove the existence of a God, it's a fact it doesn't. I don't need to put my faith in it, you can clearly see it's like that. That's what facts are. Now, notice that I say 'the existence of A god', not your God. That is because you are not the only one to claim a God, there have been and there still are many more. Your God is flawed with simply the fact that the book on which your character's story is based on declares a certain age for life on earth. Science proves that the age on earth is way much older than your shit religion believes it is. From that point of view, your God is out of the picture and it's all just a hoax started by some fishermen and their talented friend. End of story. As for the proof of a God, there is no such thing. It's not that I believe there is no such thing, it's a fact there is no proof of a God. Will there ever be proof of a deity? We can presume nothing is impossible. But we can certainly say the possibility of it is extremely low, to the edge of impossible. As for you, cultist, you're still bringing no proof, no argument, all you do is keeping the cultist lines coming my way and trying to be ironic by correcting my spelling, without noticing it was a slip and the second 'presumption' was written as it should be. No more than a braindead religious follower. Since you can't seem to step-by-step refute the logic in my links that prove God exists, you probably are simply attempting to believe that He doesn't exist, even though you say you know it. Now, I could be wrong about you. You might actually have some step-by-step rebuttal. Nobody requires that you show it. So, as long as you can get by without showing it, you should be given the benefit of the doubt. Most of the rest of what you say, above, is religious talk... maybe even religious doctrine. It's a little off topic, at least until you show the factual rebuttal of the proof that God exists. The proof: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. |
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Even though this transformer is fake, ancient technology isn't. for example. Do we have the technology to build a pyramid like the Great Pyramid? Yes, absolutely! Do we have the ability to build a pyramid like the Great Pyramid? No! Why not? Because we have no way of getting enough people to work together with enough funds and rock lands to be able to afford it. The people of the world are simply not in agreement with each other enough to do it. You and a bunch of other people might want it, but you can't afford what it would take to develop the equipment and to buy the rock and to actually pay laborers to build. The ancients built the Great Pyramid. We absolutely can't do it today. So, in some ways the ancients were ahead of us. |
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That is one faithful little child. I wonder if I were ever in that pitiful of a condition that I would have strength to praise God the way that child does. The kid probably doesn't even realize that he will be in Heaven shortly, and that there is THAT great reason, alone, to praise God. Marvelous faith of a child! There you go again, placing yourself above god, choosing who goes to heaven or not. Twice in one week. Tut, tut. Getting to be a little habit of yours. There you go again. In one post acknowledging that God exists, and in another stating that He doesn't. Somebody as mixed up as you are absolutely can't make any sense in the things you say. Not that my pointing this out to you is going to change you. But it might get through a little, and sooner or later you might straighten out. Let's hope it is sooner. Later might not exist for you, and you just might wind up in worse shape than the kid in the picture. |
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Adamant, outspoken atheists don't want to see the proof that atheism is essentially, non existent. They have their religion. They have their cult. They like it that way. They won't listen even if they watch your video completely. There are only two things that take a person away from believing his cult. The are, great joy, or great pain. If you can make an atheist so happy that he forgets about atheism, you might have a chance. Or you can beat him into subjection, and then he might realize the truth after a while. But you'll never convince him from a video if he doesn't want to be convinced.
Now you really starting to piss me off. Who do you think you are? You are as fucked up as the rest of Muslims and Jews. You think Christians did great job here in North America? They have committed a genocide. You little fuck. - Christians are people. All people do relative good, and all people do relative bad. Christianity is basically about salvation preparation. The Christians who apply the salvation are simply "luckier" than other people. They aren't necessarily better people, although many of them do become better people.
I came from a highly religious family, went through Catholic school system, both primary and secondary, I was an altar boy (luckily for me I was not molested). - Yes, you told us all that a year ago. But I do sympathize with you regarding it. Catholicism isn't really Christianity. It's more like, worship the Pope and the Catholic Church after him.
What I saw, was corruption, abuse on pretty much every level imaginable. Christian (or any other religious) ideology is based on servitude, on bondage to an invisible sky daddy, pay up and shut up type of scheme. Fear is the primary tool to get people inline to follow the obvious nonsense. - You are wrong about the invisible sky daddy part. Many Catholic leaders talk about an invisible sky daddy, but they are working for the very visible earth daddy... the Pope.
Years later, after I recovered from the damage my parents and grandparents put me through, I met my "priest". In a night club, with two hookers by his side. We talked for a while. He really told me what the con was all about and how he played it. He invited me to join him, to help him "hit" the nursing homes and retirement homes. He was a despicable human being, your worst nightmare. He would take money (during Sunday mass) from old ladies on fixed income, and blow it on hookers later on in the week. He organized special praying and blessing services for living and dead family members. Basically, people were giving him money left and right. - This is exactly why Wesley, Luther, and many others started the Protestant churches. They saw the evil that the Catholic Church is, found the truth, and started churches that preach the truth. The biggest chunk of truth that they found was Jesus salvation. While many Catholic parishes in America preach the truth of Jesus, most Catholic churches in Italy, Spain and Portugal don't.
There is absolutely nothing "holy" about any of the human invented religions. They are all product of human imagination. - Yet the holy God works through all of them, just like He gets His goals accomplished using everything else. His main goal is to give people eternal life in glory. He does it by spreading the good news - the Gospel - of the work that Jesus Christ did on the cross for all people, so that people can believe and be saved.
So once again, stop spreading the nonsense. If you don't, it makes you an enabler.
Religious ideologies should be outlawed. A con is a con. It should be illegal.
You suggest that I stop preaching Christianity which is saving people. Yet, you continue to preach atheism, which is easily shown to be false, and which saves no one in the long run. Perhaps you are sincere. Perhaps you really want to see good for yourself and for all people. Preaching atheism is doing just the opposite. Because the only real atheists there are, are the people who never consider the idea of God one way or another. Those who consider atheism, realize that they don't have enough knowledge to truthfully say for a fact that God doesn't exist. So, instead of feeling sorry for yourself and licking your wounds, step up to this little piece of fact, that you aren't an atheist. Say it right out. Face at least this much truth, and move into it. Then look to see if God has revealed Himself in ways that are not through the Catholic Church... or any of the other churches... like nature, for example. It's a start. |
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That is one faithful little child. I wonder if I were ever in that pitiful of a condition that I would have strength to praise God the way that child does. The kid probably doesn't even realize that he will be in Heaven shortly, and that there is THAT great reason, alone, to praise God. Marvelous faith of a child! |
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Think of how many people on the sidewalk below walk under it without even knowing. |
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You know who believes that the Earth is flat; proven by fringe YouTube videos ? Niggers like you, that's who. Many in USA already are awake to the flat earth truth. They are not ignorant like you  You have the latest situation here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlXi93QQTWA Those are some very pretty pictures you have there. Do you paint? I want to believe . A new trend leads to a new way of thinking. Is flat earth factual? If it is, then you don't want to believe it. You want to know it. If you believe it without knowing it, you kinda have a religion going. |
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It is this Constitution that maintains much of the freedom in America today... all based on Christianity
Do you have any evidence to support this claim? The only mention of religion in the Constitution is "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" The Constitution would not have been accepted if the makers had not added the Amendments, and the people had not ratified the Amendments. Most of the people were Christian people. Religious freedom was the reason they came over here. They would not have ratified if the Constitution was not acceptable to Christianity. So, the Constitution was based on the Christianity of the people. Further, research this yourself. In the first years after the U.S. Government started, Christian church services were held in government buildings. And it was Government officials that did this. The people not only allowed, but they approved. Christianity wasn't consider just a religion. It was considered foundational world and life truth. Sorry, you may have misunderstood... I asked if you have any EVIDENCESomething like this: “The Government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.”
~1797 Treaty of Tripoli signed by Founding Father John Adams
Or this: “If I could conceive that the general government might ever be so administered as to render the liberty of conscience insecure, I beg you will be persuaded, that no one would be more zealous than myself to establish effectual barriers against the horrors of spiritual tyranny, and every species of religious persecution.”
~Founding Father George Washington, letter to the United Baptist Chamber of Virginia, May 1789
Or this: “In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own. It is error alone that needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself.”
~Founding Father Thomas Jefferson, in a letter to Horatio Spofford, 1814
Gotta love Thomas Jefferson... he literally rewrote the bible, to take out the magical bullshit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Bible“Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, then that of blindfolded fear.”
~Founding Father Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 10, 1787
Even more basic evidence is in the 6th, 7th, 9th, and 10th Amendments. These Amendments were ratified directly into place by the people, who were basically Christian. These Amendments are what stands. People use them on a regular basis. If people understood the strength in them, they could use Government to put Government down. All the writings you listed have nothing to do with the founding documents, The Constitution and the Amendments, which stand because Christian people made them to stand. Christianity is behind the peace we have in America. EDIT: I guess I stand corrected. You asked for evidence, but all I supplied was proof. It must be that I don't want to get into talking a bunch of philosophy. |
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Adamant, outspoken atheists don't want to see the proof that atheism is essentially, non existent. They have their religion. They have their cult. They like it that way. They won't listen even if they watch your video completely. There are only two things that take a person away from believing his cult. The are, great joy, or great pain. If you can make an atheist so happy that he forgets about atheism, you might have a chance. Or you can beat him into subjection, and then he might realize the truth after a while. But you'll never convince him from a video if he doesn't want to be convinced. |
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Don't kill Muslims. Kill Islam. Islam is a governmental religion that the vast majority of Muslims do not follow even close to correctly. Islam is a religion of violence. But most Muslims and Muslim clerics have already almost destroyed it by turning it into a religion of peace. Help Muslims kill Islam the rest of the way by freeing them from the violent requirements of their religion. Don't kill the Muslims. Rather, help the Muslims kill Islam the rest of the way. I doubt the religion can be killed. Many said Christianity would die out but it seems to be seeing a resurgence. What we should be doing is help them get through their own "reformation" if that is even possible. Granted, Reformation really didn't eliminate religion being problematic (just look at Protestant vs Catholic conflicts in the past) but it's a start. Weaken the hold of the clergy over the smallfolk. Reformation would also allow a flourishing of new sects. Considering that most people are moderate anyway, they'd probably go along with moderate sects and there might be more moderate sects to begin with. When religion have to compete in the free market of faith, they adapt to the people rather than force the people to submit to their will. My reasoning is very simple. I don't want to live near Muslims. Not all of them may be terrorists or terrorist supporters, but the vast majority of the terrorists are Muslims. My logic is that, prevention is better than cure. Why take the risk?
BTW... I don't want to kill any of them, as long as they don't attack me.
I also don't want to live near them. Not that I believe they are all bad but their level of tribal mentality is disturbing. You're always worrying you might offend someone. And it's not like I would be able to live near them in the first place. They tend to form ghettos which in time become a no-go for infidels. You forget that it is hard to enslave a person. In the soul of everyone will fury rage and when it flashes. And some resist all their lives. Therefore, we should not even talk about destroying Muslims or Islam. This desire can be the whole world. Yes, but in Western Sahara, especially the part that is NOT part of Morocco, they get away with slavery. And the slaves have been in slavery so long that they don't even understand the concept of freedom. Wouldn't it be better to make Muslims our slaves for such a long time that the idea of freedom is a concept that has been bred out of them? That is the thing that they are doing to others in Western Sahara. |
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You know who believes that the Earth is flat; proven by fringe YouTube videos ? Niggers like you, that's who. Many in USA already are awake to the flat earth truth. They are not ignorant like you You have the latest situation here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlXi93QQTWAThose are some very pretty pictures you have there. Do you paint? |
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Believing in something that is physically provable is a logical position.
Believing in imaginary, unreal, out of this world nonsense is irrational.
Believing that your imaginary friend is real is just being delusional.
Hearing him/her is a symptom of schizophrenia.
If a person rejects faith in everything with his whole being, then it seems to me that it is very difficult to explain something and do not have to do it at all. God is not a friend and nobody imagines him. This, we can say, energy, everything that chills us and the whole universe in general. But is this true about your intelligence and emotion? Or aren't these things in the universe? |
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Still makes no sense killing people for eating/killing cows.
Those are isolated incidents. During the last three decades, less than 10 people have been killed in India for cow-slaughter. The number of Hindus killed by Muslims in Bangladesh during the same period is almost 10,000 times that number, but no one mentions about it. The Indian media is under the control of evangelical christian cabals, and whenever they get a chance to tarnish the Hindu majority, they make the maximum use out of it. Probably all the inhabitants of Europe are in danger, because they consider it to be more useful meat than pork. Therefore, meat of cattle is very popular there. But if the Hindus kill for this, then you need to be careful. Muslims kill those who eat pork, and the Indians of those who kill the cow. If a Muslim woman got together with an Indian man, would they become vegetarians? |
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There is nothing but presumtions in your links, just as the presumption a God may or may not exist. Nothing there proves the existence of a God, it only gives a religious nonsensical interpretation of science. Therefore, since some intelligent people around already explained to you why they are bullshit, I have no reason to repeat it again. As I stated before, you are not able to properly understand reason or logic. That, or you are trolling. As for the ''orders' thing, you are completely mistaken. It's a pattern that you, followers, follow. Based on that pattern, I simply predicted what you were going to say next. I am as on topic as I could be, you are the one leading and I counter what you claim. Now, besides those bullshit links, your arguments are just modern religious indoctrinating crap, the same arguments you would get from any cultist who has no proof but has to convince people it's his way. As you can see, that's not going to work with me. Not the passive-aggresive attitude, not the mystical shit, not the 'humans can't understand God's way', nothing of this type. I expect you to prove the existence of a God. Your links have been disproven. If you do have something else, please, enlighten us. If not, please, don't resume yourself to that cultist monologue that I can hear at any corner of the street.
Almost everything in your posts is presumption, especially your spelling of the word "presumptions." There is nothing wrong with your believing that science doesn't prove the existence of God. In fact, faith is healthy. It's your religion. I applaud you that you have religion. But, keep searching. You just might find a truthful religion if you do. You might even find the way to Heaven. |
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So BADecker, you are refusing to spread a tolerant message of peace? If you look at Matthew 23 I think you will find some important details about who exactly stands to benefit from denying message of peace: The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. 3 So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. 4 They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them. If Jesus was preaching a tolerant message of peace, the Pharisees wouldn't have incited the people of Jerusalem and the Romans to put Him to death. Now that Jesus died and arose, the message of peace revolves around, Believe in Jesus salvation and be saved. There is no other message of peace. If you do not accept the message of peace, it is not I who am not proclaiming it. Jesus is said to have risen from death, but he never said that you will die unless you believe in his resurrection. Read the discussion linked above, I have linked it already but you want to ignore those logical answers in favor of your special dogma. Those scholars who have studied the Bible in detail, have shown us that it is faith in Jesus salvation that saves us. There is no place that says that there is salvation any other way. No salvation? Then Hell. Who blots a person's name out of the Book of Life? It is not Jesus. It is the person Himself, through his lack of faith. BADecker, you lost abattle and stoped responding since I read your pattern of defending your religion. You realise that the fact you stopped replying in that moment, when you see I can read you like a book confirms the fact that even you do not believe in a God, but you are just too selfish, too hypocrite to admit that your whole life was a lie until now. Trying to start other debates with other people is worthless since you haven't finished one in which you are losing. Poor baby. So you think there was a debate going on, eh? Thank God that I don't have to believe that God exists. I have scientific proof, and the strong evidence of nature to show me. Too bad you don't understand science, and too bad you can't see nature. You are missing out on a ton of great and wonderful things from God. It won't work this way, dear cultist, and you know almost nothing of science and nature. By the examples that you give as proof it is obvious you have knowledge about science but you are not able to use reason and basic logic to understand it. Therefore, anything you've ever studied is worthless. Poor baby. You are missing it all the way. I am willing to help you see your mistakes, though. Read on. This is a battle you shall lose in a split, if it ever came to this. But our debate, and it was one, was not covering science, nor nature. Here is part of your mistake. We weren't having a battle. Why not? Because you were and are off-topic. You state it yourself. Your only battle is with yourself... thrashing around wildly, beating the air, so to speak. It was all about you, believers, the ones who are hypocrites and sepparate themselves from their religion when their religion is proved to have done great wrongdoings. It was about how you, cultists, always stay on the winning side, whatever that winning side would be. Do you want an example? Study about the orders of Pope Pius XII before and during the Nazi era. In our little debate, dear Badecker, I told you what your next step, as a hypocrite, would be in defending your shit, worthless, primitive religion. And you did it, and after I reminded you of what you did and how that confirmed my point, you never responded. It's a good choice to stop responding since there was nothing you could say anymore, you've lost your point. But you start debating the same bullshit again with other people, hoping they will not outsmart you and see beneath the curtain of primitive bullshit? Nah, I'm here you little cultist to make sure any shit you will say will be proven wrong.
You are so funny. That's a military thing. When you are giving orders, you tell the soldiers what you are going to tell them. Then you tell it to them. Then you tell them what you have told them. What's the matter? Do you have to repeat it just to stay off-topic? Why don't you get on topic and step-by-step rebut the things in my links that prove God exists. Several other forum members have made a stab at going the step-by-step route. But not only have they NOT rebutted the proof I show, they couldn't even get into the step-by-step mode and stay on topic. Can you do it? I'm waiting. There is nothing but presumtions in your links, just as the presumption a God may or may not exist. Nothing there proves the existence of a God, it only gives a religious nonsensical interpretation of science. Therefore, since some intelligent people around already explained to you why they are bullshit, I have no reason to repeat it again. As I stated before, you are not able to properly understand reason or logic. That, or you are trolling. As for the ''orders' thing, you are completely mistaken. It's a pattern that you, followers, follow. Based on that pattern, I simply predicted what you were going to say next. I am as on topic as I could be, you are the one leading and I counter what you claim. Now, besides those bullshit links, your arguments are just modern religious indoctrinating crap, the same arguments you would get from any cultist who has no proof but has to convince people it's his way. As you can see, that's not going to work with me. Not the passive-aggresive attitude, not the mystical shit, not the 'humans can't understand God's way', nothing of this type. I expect you to prove the existence of a God. Your links have been disproven. If you do have something else, please, enlighten us. If not, please, don't resume yourself to that cultist monologue that I can hear at any corner of the street. Almost everything in your posts is presumption, especially your spelling of the word "presumptions." |
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This nigger belongs in a mental ward. When he starts getting too vulgar, they take his computer privileges away. That's why he is gone for various lengths of time. |
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