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2461  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Porez na bitcoin i kriptovalute 2018-2019 on: September 09, 2021, 06:04:03 PM
Osobno nisam čuo za takav slučaj vezan uz crypto. Thompsona su 2013.-14. lovili za 2007., dakle vjerojatno su dizali parnicu neposredno prije zastare.

Ako se na varam zastara u slucaju neplacenoga poreza nastupa nakon 6 godina, ali sto to tocno znaci? Je li to 6 godina od trenutka kada Porezna sluzbeno kaze da si duzan platiti porez ili 6 godina od trenutka kada je zakonski nastala obveza placanja poreza?

Svi znamo da je u HR ionako 2 godine nakon kupnje kriptovalute porez 0%, ali sto je recimo sa zaradom od signature kampanja na koje bi ako se ne varam trebali placati porez na drugi dohodak? Ako je netko recimo 2016 zaradio 1 BTC na signature/bounty kampanjama i nije to nikada prijavio niti pretvorio u fiat, te to napravi nakon 6 godina i isplati si lovu na bankovni racun, govorimo li u takvom slucaju o zastari ili je takva zarada ipak i dalje opreziva?

Da, ovo za signature kampanje je stvarno ''škakljivo'' pitanje.
Dok se radi o manjim iznosima koji se anonimno mogu dizati na crypto mjenjačnicama ili btc bankomatima, to zapravo i nije neki problem.
Problem će nastati kada jednom btc cijena skoči na recimo $ 300 k i više, i kada ta prikupljena sredstva na crypto novčanicima budu puno više vrijedila.
Teoretski kroz višekratno obilaženje svih poslovnica crypto mjenjačnica u Zagrebu i dalje će biti moguće anonimno pretvoriti sve crypto valute u kune, ali što onda?
Ne dižeš novce da bi ih držao pod jastukom ili u novčaniku.
Onog trenutka kada odlučiš kupiti auto, kuću, apartman na moru, brod... preko OIB porezna će tu transakciju odmah vidjeti a vidjet će i veliki nesrazmjer u prijavljenim prihodima i nekom u poreznoj službi upalit će se ''crvena lampica'' i pokrenut će se porezni nadzor.
Ja sam za sada ovaj problem riješio na taj način da sam prikupio dokumentaciju tj. papirologiju na temelju podataka iz svojeg prvog btc walleta, kojeg sam kreirao još 2014, s obzirom na tumačenje porezne (koje sam dobio na svoj email) da ih ne zanimaju crypto sredstva zarađena prije 1.1.2016 i da to ne treba prijavljivati.
Zanimljivo je da iako sam anonimno prodao btc za gotovo 100 000 kn ove godine u crypto mjenjačnicama i uplatio ih kao ''polog gotovine'' na svoj bankovni račun, da bih mogao kupiti udjele u 1 investiciji u real sektoru, start up-u, do sada me nitko ništa nije pitao ni u banci ni u poreznoj.
Da li sam prošao ''ispod radara'' li su spori pa još nisu došli do mene, nemam pojma.
Naravno, ovaj ''stari'' wallet neću moći još dugo koristiti kao ''kviska'' pa se iskreno nadam da porezna zastara zaista ide nakon 6 godina, jer će mi to stvarno ''olakšati'' život.
Domchi, možeš li objasniti ovo pravilo zastare nakon 6 godina?

Inače, također iz odgovora porezne proizlazi da se zarada od signature kampanja mora prijavljivati u roku 8 ili 15 dana, čini mi se, čak i ako se crypto sredstva ne pretvore u fiat već ostanu na crypto novčaniku, treba se i prijaviti u registar poreznih obveznika, nositi ispunjen joopd obrazac u poreznu ili prijaviti preko e- porezne... ukratko, prekomplicirano i potpuno neživotno po mojem mišljenju.
Bilo bi bolje da nam odrede neki paušal kao za iznajmljivače apartmana na moru.

2462  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: September 09, 2021, 08:45:04 AM
Tko je propustio priliku prije,  sada ima novu šansu.
Hrvatska pošta sutra, četvrtak od 8 ujutro pušta u prodaju novu kolekciju kriptomarki: https://www.index.hr/mobile/clanak.aspx?category=vijesti&id=2302497
U prodaji će biti kolekcija od 1500 kriptomarki s motivom rimceve Nevere.
Dakle,  tko prije ili brže;  njegova djevojka 😀
Index mi baš nije uvijek pouzdani izvor informacija u vezi crypta ali nadam se da su ovaj put korektno prenijeli vijest.

Je li netko probao prodati te kriptomarke? Ima li tu kakve vrijednosti? Ja sam baš neki dan u ormariću pronašao papir s kriptomarkom. Iskreno, ne sjećam se niti na koji wallet sam ju dobio Grin

Je li netko na kraju kupio ove kriptomarke?
Ja sam imao gužvu na poslu i nisam stigao a isto sam se zapravo pitao što i slackovic,  ima li to neke vrijednosti i da li se kasnije može negdje prodati?
Ima li netko kakva iskustva sa kriptomarkama?
2463  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: September 08, 2021, 11:26:17 AM
Tko je propustio priliku prije,  sada ima novu šansu.
Hrvatska pošta sutra, četvrtak od 8 ujutro pušta u prodaju novu kolekciju kriptomarki: https://www.index.hr/mobile/clanak.aspx?category=vijesti&id=2302497
U prodaji će biti kolekcija od 1500 kriptomarki s motivom rimceve Nevere.
Dakle,  tko prije ili brže;  njegova djevojka 😀
Index mi baš nije uvijek pouzdani izvor informacija u vezi crypta ali nadam se da su ovaj put korektno prenijeli vijest.
2464  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers on: September 08, 2021, 06:48:23 AM
Croatia finally played a very good game, probably the best since 2018  World cup in Russia and convincingly beat Slovenia 3:0.
 It seems that Croatia once again has a young and strong team, ready for great results at world competitions.
Croatia and Russia will decide the winner of the group in a mutual match.
2465  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Pregled Bitcointalk Signature-Ad kampanja on: September 07, 2021, 05:55:06 PM
@Daniel91 vidim da se prijavio za Roobet. To su prijave za Full member, ne za Legendary tako da sumnjam da će te prihvatiti

Da, hvala na upozorenju, nisam dobro vidio, učinilo mi se da je to još uvijek prijava za hero/legendary a prvi put se nisam htio javiti zbog tvoje prijave  Grin
Nema veze, bit će još prilika.
Sretno i tebi sa prijavama za kampanje.
2466  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Pregled Bitcointalk Signature-Ad kampanja on: September 07, 2021, 10:00:40 AM
Vidim da kod Stake kampanje još uvijek piše da je otvorena i da se još članovi foruma i dalje  prijavljuju,  a manager se već dugo nije javio i potvrdio nove učesnike kampanje.
Pretpostavljam da to znači da su prijave i dalje  otvorene.
Uvjeti nisu teški,  25 postova minimum,  10 u gamblingu,  1.75$ po postu... što ih čini jednom od najbolje plaćenih kampanja na forumu.

Što nije ovo zapravo malo? Recimo, Roobet plaća čini mi se 70$ za 20 postova, što je točno duplo više po postu od ove kampanje. OK, Roobet ima fiksnu isplatu, ali po tim izračunima morao bi napisati preko 40 postova tjedno u Stake kampanji da isplata bude veća.

Možda je računica nešto povoljnija za manji rang od Hero/Legendary ali ne čini mi se baš kao top kampanja. Isto, 25 postova kao minimum je dosta.

Zapravo nije malo ako pažljivo pročitaš uvjete kampanje,  posebno pravila o plaćanju :

♦️ The payment limit is $ 100/week (+$25 if win the bonus) per member of this campaign

Payrates:
HERO:
♦️ Up to 25 posts: $1.75 per post
♦️ From 26 posts on: $0.50 per post + 20% extra for posts at Gambling Section (including Stake & Primedice main topics)
LEGENDARY:
♦️ Up to 25 posts: $2.25 per post
♦️ From 26 posts on: $0.60 per post + 20% extra for posts at Gambling Section (including Stake & Primedice main threads)

Dakle;  moguće su tjedne isplate do 125$ za one koji "više pišu " na forumu a naravno druga je stvar tko uopće toliko piše i kakva se kvaliteta postova na taj način dobije.
Osobno;  ne volim ovakve vrste kampanja koje baš traže "štancanje postova " da bi se postigla veća zarada ali vidim da kandidata ne nedostaje 😀

Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5291820.0
2467  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Pregled Bitcointalk Signature-Ad kampanja on: September 07, 2021, 08:26:44 AM
Sretno, svi se brinemo za tebe i posljedicno ukupan broj postova na nasem lokalnom dijelu  Grin Vec bi bilo vrijeme da nadjes kampanju, a da sam ja predstavnik BTC Store ili neke druge hrvatske firme dogovorio bi s tobom deal pod odmah. Realno ipak bi oni dobili najvecu vrijednost s obzirom na tvoje navike postanja.

Kako sam i očekivao, netko drugi je primljen. Stvarno bude dosta dobrih prijava i onda je prilično teško upasti kad se bira samo jedan kandidat. Ali nema veze, bude valjda neka kampanja došla...

Što se tiče hrvatskih crypto firmi, nemam ništa protiv. Ali ipak imam osjećaj da ću prije upasti u Roobet nego da me netko od naših angažira Grin

EDIT: Baš sam išao pogledati korisnika koji je primljen u Roobet kampanju i vidim da on isto tako piše 99% svojih postova u lokalnoj njemačkoj sekciji. Prema tome, ipak ima nade i za mene Grin

Žao mi je slackovic,  nadam se da će se uskoro ipak otvoriti neko mjesto i za tebe u nekoj kampanja koja ne traži gambling postove i priznaje lokalne.
Očito su u ovoj kampanji promijenili koncept i počeli tražiti jake lokalne postere ali na žalost čini se da im je njemačka sekcija ovaj put bila marketinški važnija.
Nadam se da zbog ovoga nećeš izgubiti interes za našu lokalnu sekciju i da ćeš nam pomoći da se održimo na vrhu  Grin
2468  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Pregled Bitcointalk Signature-Ad kampanja on: September 07, 2021, 06:10:24 AM
Vidim da kod Stake kampanje još uvijek piše da je otvorena i da se još članovi foruma i dalje  prijavljuju,  a manager se već dugo nije javio i potvrdio nove učesnike kampanje.
Pretpostavljam da to znači da su prijave i dalje  otvorene.
Uvjeti nisu teški,  25 postova minimum,  10 u gamblingu,  1.75$ po postu... što ih čini jednom od najbolje plaćenih kampanja na forumu.
2469  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Zbirni topic za davanje merita za kvalitetne postove on: September 07, 2021, 05:53:30 AM

Ma naravno da može  Cheesy
Da nema tebe, slackovica i još par ljudi slobodno bih mogao zatvoriti ovaj topic.
Jako kvalitetno istraživanje, čestitam 😀
Malo si me zbunio sa linkovima, mislio sam da prijavljujes 2 različita posta  Cheesy
Tko je slijedeći?
2470  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: September 06, 2021, 06:42:16 PM
Quote from: laurenB7742 link=topic=1877785.msg57874115#msg57874115 dat. =1630936714
Inevitably, Allegri now has to rely on Paulo Dybala and Chiesa as a striker duo on the front lines of Juventus, because it is impossible to get new players this season because the transfer market is officially closed.

Allegri is an experienced coach. He would like to arrange the best formation with the quality players he has. Maybe Juventus will stay away from the title this season, it is not possible to win the title with such a squad. Yet I would be happy if the team will be stable.

I wouldn't really agree with you.
It is true that Juventus lost Ronaldo, but Inter also lost Lukaku and other clubs also lost some very important players.
I think this season the Italian league will be very even and uncertain. Allegri is a very good and experienced coach and I believe he will get the most out of this Juventus team.
Personally, it seems to me that Inter will not defend the title but it's just my opinion.
The fact is that Italian clubs do not have strong finances like PSG or English clubs and are no longer competitive in international competitions.
I don’t believe there will be more stars like Ronaldo or Lukaku coming to play in the Italian league.
2471  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: September 06, 2021, 12:09:21 PM
Jedna interesantna novost iz Varaždina, odvjetništvo tereti neimenovanog 26-godišnjeg državljanina Bosne i Hercegovine da je 2018 godine ukrao milijun kuna od tvrtke iz Ludbrega i za to kupio 22.000 Bitcoina!
Mladić je postavio lažnu stranicu banke u kojoj su imali otvoren račun, ukrao PIN kod i prebacio milijun kuna na svoj račun, i nakon toga kupio Bitcoin, a sada je nedostupan pravosuđu kako je i DORH potvrdio.
Tražio sam na bitcoin rich list i našao jednu adresu sa 22,400 Bitcoin aktivnu od 2018 ali nisam siguran da li je to naš kriminalac, a on je sad milijarder ako nije prodao BTC, i milijun kuna je sad za njega sitna lova.
22.000 Bitcoina danas = 1.134.413.940 USD
Quote
"Da, riječ o 22 tisuće bitcoina kako i piše u optužnici. Riječ je državljaninu BiH koji je nedostupan hrvatskome pravosuđu", rekao je zamjenik Županijske državne odvjetnice u Varaždinu Darko Galić.
https://www.zagorje.com/clanak/vijesti/nevjerojatna-prica-poduzecu-iz-ludbrega-maznuo-milijun-kuna-kupio-bitcoine-i-danas-je-mili

Možda znate više informacija o ovom slučaju?

Odlično izvedena prevara,  nema što,  
Ali ne razumijem,  to se dogodilo 2018 a oni tek sada dižu optužnicu?
Zar je firmi trebalo 3 godine da skuže da im fali milijun kuna?
Ili državnom odvjetništvu 3 godine da uopce podignu optužnicu?
Kod ovakvih prevara najvažnija je brzina, da se što prije blokiraju ukradena sredstva s računa,  bilo bankovnog ili crypto kako se sredstva ne bi mogla potrošiti i da bi se mogla vratiti vlasniku.
Čisto sumnjam da je ikakav povrat novca moguć nakon 3 godine.
Čovjek je vjerojatno već sve davno potrošio  Grin
Zanima me samo što kada bi naše državno odvjetništvo zatražilo recimo od Binance ili neke druge crypto mjenjačnice da blokiraju nečija sredstva?
Kakav bi bio odgovor i da li bi takav zahtjev bio zakonski obvezatan za njih?

2472  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Porez na bitcoin i kriptovalute 2018-2019 on: September 06, 2021, 10:34:19 AM
Ja sam isto nedavno prebacio neki crypto u fiat preko crypto mjenjačnice i zatim položio gotovinu na bankovni račun jer mi je trebao cash za jednu investiciju.
Neću sad navoditi točan iznos za slučaj da netko iz mjenjačnice prati ovaj forum ali radilo se o relativno većem iznosu red veličine blizu 100 000 kn.
U banci me apsolutno ništa nisu pitali, odakle mi novac niti tražili bilo kakve potvrde iako sam imao spremne potvrde o prodaji crypta od crypto mjenjačnice da im pokažem.
Od onda je prošlo već gotovo godinu dana pa sam već i zaboravio na to.
Nitko me nije ni naknadno ništa pitao ni tražio pa vjerujem da će tako i ostati  Grin
Čini se da svaka banka ima svoja pravila ili sam možda jednostavno imao sreće  Cheesy
2473  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: September 05, 2021, 01:11:37 PM
Guys, I would like to ask you a question!

With Cristiano Ronaldo moving to Manchester United, do you believe he will be close to retirement? Is this plausible?
Because, I believe that the team of his heart can be Porto or United, will Cristiano be able to retire in one of these teams? And he's already 36 years old.

A difficult question to answer.
Ronaldo will probably play as long as he thinks he is the best and can win trophies and achieve victories.
Ronaldo is too proud to play a less important role in the team.
I don’t even believe he would be interested in retiring in the American Football League.
I think Manchester United will be the last club in his career.
Soon we will find out  Grin
2474  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers on: September 05, 2021, 01:07:10 PM
Croatia achieved a very tough and happy victory in Slovakia.
Slovakia was actually closer to victory, but luck and greater individual quality of Croatian players were decisive.
However, for Croatia this will be a very difficult and uncertain qualification and it is obvious that they are not the favorites for the first place in the group.
4 national teams, Russia, Slovakia, Slovenia and Croatia are equal and everyone can beat everyone in the group.
2475  Other / Meta / Re: Plagiarsism QA topics. I don't think new topics about plagiarism are necessary on: September 05, 2021, 01:00:05 PM
The problem is that a lot of newbie members don’t actually read the forum rules and some probably don’t even understand enough English.
Some newbie members come to this forum with the clear goal of spamming and making as much money as possible and they don't care about the forum rules at all.
Plagiarism will not disappear from this forum because unfortunately due to the money offered on this forum some members will always try to find a shortcut to success.
Others simply will not understand the rules or will not care about it.
2476  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What the forum expect from me and my expectation from the forum on: September 05, 2021, 12:49:52 PM
It's a pleasure having a forum like this which is educative, informative, and socialite,  I'm a newbie here and I would appreciate your contributions for direction towards my success in the forum

Welcome to the forum!
In order to be able to help you concretely, it would be good to tell us something more about yourself, what you are interested in, trading, investing etc.
Because of what you have registered on this forum and what you expect from this forum?
What does success on this forum mean to you?
There are members here who are always ready to help but for a start we need more information from you to understand what kind of help you need.
2477  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: September 04, 2021, 10:09:16 AM
Transfer rumours:

Real Madrid prepared seven contracts to negotiate with Kylian Mbappe as they aimed to sign the France forward before the transfer deadline, but the Spanish giants are optimistic the 22-year-old will choose to join them from Paris St-Germain in 2022. In this way, it seems that Real did better because they will bring a very good player for free, while PSG will not get anything. I don’t understand PSG’s strategy here.
France midfielder Eduardo Camavinga, 18, convinced Rennes to let him join Real Madrid this summer, despite PSG making more lucrative offers to both himself and his former club. Another job in which Real seems to have beaten PSG.
PSG did not submit a formal bid for Portugal forward Cristiano Ronaldo despite holding discussions over a move for the 36-year-old before he left Juventus to rejoin Manchester United. Honestly, I’m sorry we won’t see Messi and Ronaldo playing together at the same club.
Barcelona will attempt to sign Spain forward Dani Olmo, 23, from RB Leipzig in January, having already agreed a five-year contract in principle. Olmo finally returns home  Cheesy

Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/58416952
2478  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: September 04, 2021, 10:03:02 AM
What has been happening with Osaka lately?
''Naomi Osaka says she will take another break from tennis after her US Open title defence ended in the third round.''

Osaka has had certain psychological problems for a long time, avoids talking to journalists, cancels numerous tournaments, does not play well for a long time etc.
At one point it seemed that she could become the new Serena and future great tennis champion and now it seems that one great tennis career could end soon.
It's a pity, but it seems that Osaka did not withstand the great pressure of the public.
What do you think?

Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/58446098
2479  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers on: September 04, 2021, 09:53:48 AM
Spain had the focus on possession of the ball, but could not attack much. Sweden also attacked less, but their attacks were good, they were able to score. I lost my bet in the match between Italy and Bulgaria. I never thought Italy would draw this match. But Italy attacked a lot, they took 27 shots. I'm tired of watching France's matches now. Despite having such a strong squad, they perform very poorly.
Give France some time, pretty sure that they will pull it off when the time comes to pull it off, I mean it's still the qualifiers right? But I don't know about who's going to bring the cup next in this time but I am pretty sure that who will defeat France in the tournament proper will have a high chance at getting the next cup.
I think the French team's game is still good, and France remains top of Group D with 8 points from four games, and the draw against Bosnia doesn't change its position.
And France continued to play well despite dropping to 10 men after referee Sandro Scharer initially only got a yellow card, but after receiving input from Var the hemorrhoids turned it red for Kunde.
and the news that Kylian Mbappe against Bosnia was not optimal and at the end of the match had to be replaced with Deschamps, and in the fifth match later against Ukraine Mbappe was confirmed to be absent due to injury.

There is no doubt that in terms of individual quality of players, France is at the top of world football.
However, what has been obvious for some time, and was clearly shown at the European Championship, is the fact that there are serious conflicts in the team, and that the relationship between players and coaches is seriously damaged.
Until these problems are resolved, France will have problems in their matches and lose points against much weaker teams.
It seems to me that it is time to change coaches. Zidane?
2480  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- Groups Confirmed on: September 04, 2021, 09:46:43 AM
I do not think anyone can doubt the quality and the abilities of Messi, however he is facing a situation that he has not faced during his whole career, when he was at Barcelona it was the duty of his peers to adapt to his style of play as all the team was created with Messi in mind and how to bring out his maximum potential, however this time is different, he is the one that needs to adapt and not only bring his maximum potential but to do under adverse circumstances, something that is not easy at all but if there is someone that can do it is Messi.

I don't doubt Messi's abilities, he's a great player.

The point is that, it has been questioned whether Messi would really be so good if he played outside Barcelona, outside that style and that team designed for him. He's now going to answer that question, and we'll have the opportunity to see that.

PSG has brought in a lot of new players this summer and their coach will have a tough job to create a team from a group of strong individuals, a good and balanced team.
We had before the example that some clubs like Real or Barcelona had a lot of good and expensive players in the team but they did not achieve the expected results.
Should it be recalled that last season the unexpected champions of the French and Spanish leagues were Atletico and Lille?
Messi is probably the greatest footballer of all time but even he cannot win alone and needs the support of the team.
I believe that the biggest problem for the coach will be the great ego and vanity of his best footballers, Messi, Neymar and Mbappe and how to convince them to submit to the team.
PSG remains the first favorite of the Champions League, but I think that Manchester City, Chelsea, Bayern and Real also have good chances.
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