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2481  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The Best Time to Become a Trader on: November 03, 2016, 08:56:48 PM
There is no exact time to be trader anytime you can be a trader if you willing to be a trader for now you better to start as newbie and learn with your experience.. start in small amount and try to scale up and set your goal to be rich..


Yeah there nothing matter about the become a trader. If you be skillful in the trade and if you have enough fund to start to trade means you do trade.
Yes, funds and skill are basic requirements, but as per present scenarios one would start trading with the very low amount itself. So, the biggest challenging requirement must be learning trading skills. But over time with experience, anyone could learn all the required skill for better trading, but till then there will not be any security for our initial capital amount.
2482  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Multiply my btc on: November 03, 2016, 08:37:21 PM
Avoid cloud mining sites, as when i was newbie i was scammed with them, turns out most of mining sites are very tricky, so whatever you will decide, be careful before invensting
Other than cloud mining, the list to avoid when we are considering to multiply our bitcoins is really very big. But, I'm afraid we are having very little options to multiply our bitcoins.

Honestly I'm not trying to multiply my bitcoins after experienced many scams attempts. I just earn bitcoin and save them. My bitcoins are not working for me to grow themselves.
Lending is the best option compared to trading/mining and I agree we have very less investment opportunities with regards to bitcoins.

@OP: The fact that in trading the money goes NIL is wrong as you can still withraw your investment anytime and many lending sites too don't offer you a huge interest.

Most offer less than 2-3% which is enough if compared to the limited opportunities.
2483  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Betting on sport = gambling? on: November 02, 2016, 06:54:47 PM
Playing in sports betting  is  really different  from  those   pure luck based  games  like  dice and  slots because in sports  gambling you could actually  see the  game event on  live which  you would  witness  and feel the thrill   of the game  and the winning  bet would  just  be a  bonus if   you  do  tend   to gamble for fun  only. Its also  somehow does  have high chance  of winning   compare to those  other gambling games. Back to topic playing   on sports  is definitely considered as   a   gambling  because  you already bet  on  it with your money.
While I agree that sports betting gives us a chance to win more because we can use our brain and past records or teams and players to predict the winner, but at the same time the edge on sports events is around 15% at least and that kills any profits because if you make 6 decisions right out of 10 then still you are even seven.
2484  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: please , advice me on: November 02, 2016, 06:41:33 PM
if you have experience with cloud mining , please drag the link of cheapest and honest compeny and drop it here .
and what about hasheer.com .
hasheer.com is a scam site. I can sure with you about that. Please stay away from that site or you will lose all of your money. The only legit cloud mining site at present is Genesis-mining, where allows you to buy mining power to mine one of these 3 cryptocurrencies: Zcash (newly added), Bitcoin, Etherium. Their mining system is located in Iceland
But, ROI With the any cloud mining site will be taking very long period like 10 months to one year as per current bitcoin mining difficulties. You need to wait for some time till bitcoin prices getting appreciated so that cloud mining again will be turning more profitable for the investment we will be making.
2485  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Play games to earn bitcoins on: November 02, 2016, 06:33:33 PM
As I remember there was an android game where we can earn some bits by playing the game. The name of the game is 80s space shooter if I remember it correctly. I played it when it was new and I earn some bits but I'm not really if the app is still exist and still paying.
Yes, it's still available in the Google Play Store on android. The game is precisely named Bitcoin 80s Space Shooter.

Not that long ago I have challenged myself to earn 0.01BTC through all kinds of these games and free Bitcoin apps.

But I can tell you that the fun that you had in the first few minutes, will vanish after a few hours as it gets annoying when you realize how much time and effort you put into it, for such a low reward.

I managed to earn like 0.0035BTC after in total 5 hours of playing games and claiming free Bitcoins, which I haven't even cashed out since that amount was spreaded through all installed apps.

I have removed everything after that since it's simply not worth the time and effort you put into it.

Yap you're right, it is not worth enough to play such game some hours just for some satoshis. The game is also a boring game, if the game has leveling system and we can earn more satoshi if we play with higher level than it would be a nice game.
You do not get both advantages of earning some bitcoins and entertaining yourselves. If you find those games are boring for you then finding those little Satoshi also will not be joyful for you. Instead of killing time in social media, some people are finding these games are entertaining them along with making some satoshi which they are collecting by considering future bitcoin values.
2486  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin trading - economy information on: November 02, 2016, 06:07:09 PM
Where do you guys get the information which you use to make daily/hourly trading decisions?

I believe, you need to generate for yourself.
Because, for continuous trading recommendation this is not advisable to depend on third parties. If you learn trading strategies and tools, you will be able to make trading decisions for your needs like whenever you want hourly or daily or long term position trading also.
2487  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Give me some business idea to start online. on: November 02, 2016, 05:36:48 PM
but do they payout in bitcoin?
Never concern about getting paid in bitcoin, because you can easily buy bitcoin with your fiats.

What really matters mean, how much you will get paid for the efforts will be putting. It is completely meaningless if you are losing an opportunity just because of it is not paying in bitcoins. Just look for the pay rate, if it is good for you then do not hesitate on joining it.
2488  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is Freedom on: November 01, 2016, 07:22:25 PM
Bitcoin is just object of investment. It will not solve all global economic problems and will not bring us more freedom than the electronic payment system. Yes, in some ways it is more convenient than the Fiat
I think bitcoin can solve and help economic world. In fact, bitcoin increase earning for peoples or campanies, for example is mining business, maybe use hardware with more than a million us dollars. Bitcoin also make peoples to transactions for easier and safe
Yes, there is ease of transaction and high profit potential associated with bitcoin business, this is applicable to both companies, families, students and individuals, yes almost to everyone. When they try set up any business with bitcoin option, bitcoin helps them succeed by finding new group of customers to them.
2489  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Better Advertise Gambling Site? on: October 30, 2016, 01:10:28 PM
When a gambling site as a real provably fair system, it will support its gambler to make profits. A gambler who made profits would definitely recommend that gambling site among his friends and will share his experience here in this forum, then definitely a flood of new gamblers will rush up to the site.

What I believe in as practical advertising must be word of mouth. When a gambling site has all fair system, definitely will attract more gamblers over time.
2490  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Barry Silbert Reveals 10 Bitcoin Predictions for 2017 on: October 30, 2016, 01:04:46 PM
The points, Barry Silbert made appear realistic to some extent but I guess that bitcoin transaction across borders should be more than 1 billion dollar in the year 2017 because even the current transaction should be somewhere around that amount. Over all, upcoming years are going to be very interesting, main stream of adoption might find a right path in mean times.
2491  Other / Off-topic / Re: How would you help with bitcoin? on: October 30, 2016, 12:57:53 PM
I would give money to a bitcoin political lobbying group so they can bribe politicians to defeat regulations that would harm bitcoin.
I do not think bribery will be the solution because it wil mess up everything at the end even if it is good in the first place. Instead of giving bribe, why not we use the money to create awareness campaign through media publicity so that people can understand and adopt bitcoin in more numbers, you the people's interest matters a lot and majority carry the vote.
2492  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: October 30, 2016, 09:48:27 AM
I agree. Trading is just about luck and It's like gambling whether the crypto value will go up or down. I think many of people lost their money at trading and some of them succeed Smiley But no easy job same as trading luck + strategy = Profit. Just Don't invest all your money in trading Smiley

You would not really fully dependent on luck  when  you are  on trading   because  it would really need some skills  and proper  knowledge  in able  to sustain  with it and you are right   trading  is not an easy  thing to do  but   we should  not  discourage  everyone here. Learning  trading would really takes time.
yes as there are so many people who have good experience and skill of trading, so they know how to predict about particular trad and their prediction are mostly proof correct, so they are really making good money in trading because of their precious prediction.
If we got enough skill to predict market movements accurately, then trading will not no more an unpredictable job. The hardest true within this must be just learning the skills to predict markets will not be enough, we must gain experience over time so that we will be able to predict market movements accurately. Experience really matters here to predict our trading calls preciously.
2493  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is the least amount that can be called a 'decent' investment? on: October 30, 2016, 09:42:24 AM
I think 5 btc is a huge amount to invest in altcoins and if you are new to trading then its not recommended to go with that high amount, its always good to start with a small capital and gain experience first so I think if you  are going to trade altcoins then 0.5 btc is a good amount to start with as even if you loose it won't make much difference to you.
In my experience, even 0.1 bitcoin is more than enough to consider as a decent investment for altcoin trading. But it is highly dependent on experience of a trader, after gaining experience no single trader is preferring to go with minimal amounts.

Calculated risk is the biggest advantage of experienced traders, so they can go with any amount of investments but only after gaining handsome experience with trading.
2494  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do Girls also gamble? on: October 29, 2016, 05:17:29 PM
Well there is no difference to gamble any gender are allowed.. and they are just looking for fun like other girls are playing and gamble in casino.. they are just few here in my country but when i was asking them they are just halving fun.. this is the main reason they say..
Visiting physical casino must be totally different experience from online gambling. Girls must love physical casinos as they might find it fun filled, but interestingly you need not to gamble by risking your own money to have fun in casino, just watching other gamblers itself will be entertaining you. But, online gambling needs total different approach, that may be a reason girls do not involve within it actively compared to men. 
2495  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin Gambling Investments on: October 29, 2016, 05:12:01 PM
Moneypot was a horrible investment anyway. I tried it out and it never did well at all. It was better to do slight trades or other investments that were alot safer. Betking is doing really well hey. I think next year I might invest a bit. I'm very impressed with them the other 2 are good as well.
You are not just one who talks about the disappointing story of moneypot investments. Unfortunately when gamblers make profits, gambling house owners and its investors get disappointments, when we are having probably fair system, this kind of situations are inevitable.

I believe, like me there would be many people will be very much eager to hear your experience with betking. If time permits, please share here your investments experience here again.
2496  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin to be international currency on: October 29, 2016, 05:04:10 PM
It is intermational currency since the begining, we can use it anywhere on the globe to buy something that accepts bitcoin as payment. Its making progress everyday.

Sure bitcoin has achieve those on the day more then one person from different countries has made a transaction between, but bitcoin isnt recognized as currencie from the countries, even when some big companies does accept already bitcoin, but lets give them time to follow and join crypto world.
Bitcoin is a currency every person accept it and every government accept it, the proof is that the governments does not charge any penalty for its use and they are neural for it the only thing due to which governments does not start it for their states is that bitcoin is not controllable by them.
2497  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who really uses bitcoin? on: October 29, 2016, 04:49:10 PM
Generally, Chinese and far east people use bitcoin. On the other hand, people who want to transfer money illegally to Europe and Usa , use bitcoin too.
No. Almost every country has bitcoin adopter. 95% of bitcoin users are using it for the legal purposes. Basically, those who are all aware of bitcoin more specifically who understand the advantages of bitcoins use bitcoins.

Among bitcoin users 95% people are using it for investment purposes, only 5% got opportunities to use it for their daily needs due to high bitcoin adoption rate in their region by merchants/service providers.
2498  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: what happen with bitcoin after not mineable? on: October 29, 2016, 03:20:50 PM
I don't think bitcoin will be becoming un-mine-able at all, The halving does guarantee that there will be a block reward for a very long period of time, The increase in the price of bitcoin should always maintain the overall value of BTC given as a reward block + the transaction fee.
You are right. There would be some reward all the time to miners who will find the block. Only bitcoins are limited not the blocks and its reward (even with zero new bitcoins).

After 21M bitcoins mined out, miners will receive only transaction fees as block reward. It may happen only after ~140 years, at that time by considering volume of transactions fees alone may sum up more than 50 bitcoins (the highest real block reward, excluding fees).
2499  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: October 29, 2016, 01:17:33 PM
Well, one should always have three to six months worth of monthly expenses saved up to be safe.  After that is accomplished, it's a good idea to start investing into some sort of long term retirement plan.  But, all of this is dependent upon one's economic situation and their ability to maintain a living wage....it will be a different situation for different income brackets.
Saving should only be priorities over investing, our capability will be test if we will be able to save or not. Investing is something an opportunity that we need to consider although it is risky as it takes money to make money, however if money is important to us we shall be making the right research.
Investing our money is risky but all we know that for getting success it is important that we take any risk which will give us success if a person will not like to take the risk then he will not be a successful person in the future and his life will spend as a dull life without any struggle. Still, many people are choosing not to invest anywhere by considering risks.
2500  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: where you invest? on: October 29, 2016, 09:57:49 AM
This is only for me..the best way to invest is in gambling site Cheesy lest say that is Dice..I think you guys know is House alwasy win..and I also Invest in ICO which that project very very Interesting

You are saying that the best way to invest is with gambling site's dice game and in the end you will say that the house always win, so why gamble anymore if you already know that you will just lose in the end. Joining some ICO's are also good type of investments but you must be cautious also with it because there are some ico's that turns to be scams.
There are two different things : adding bitcoins in gambling bankroll to gamble and investing into gambling business.

First one is for gamblers, full of risks involved and the second one is for investors still risks are there but with current gambling business model, you will get more chances to earn.

If you are aware of gambling house will win always then why not just join with gambling houses to earn better.
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