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2501  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I quit trading on: October 17, 2016, 10:35:09 AM
As ive read your post, your happy with the results of your
trading for the over all results. I guess you should have not
stop on trading. Since your btc may grow and you may
earn profit more.!
But trading requires lot of dedication as it is a completely unpredictable job. So, for many traders it is like climbing up Everest mountain daily. Yes, that much struggling involved with it. Even they are successful with their trading, many traders are opting to quit it for the sake of their peace of mind.
Trading isn't a completely unpredictable job at all.

If it was, then people were just gambling with their money as they solely depend on luck, and that isn't the case for good traders.

Trading is done through knowledge and experience that people have been building up in years worth of trading.

That is right, people that traded regularly seems to figure out there own comfortable trading strategies and techniques. I believe the more you trade regularly, the more you will learn and the more you will be a good trader. You need to execute that trades and apply what you have learn and do it regularly so that you will be good at it.
2502  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: October 17, 2016, 10:32:42 AM
My way to get a steady income online is buy doing small tasks and get micro income. It's not a lot by far. But with trading I do something i find it very convenient as an extra source of income.
Only question is however how I can make it grow even more.

The answer to your question is simple: Google even more  Wink It is possible to make enough money online to live on but it's not easy. It takes effort and patience and is no different from having a regular job really. A lot it a tedious repetitive work but you get to do it from the comfort of your home. I think it's easier to accumulate small earnings from many different sites than to find one than pays a lot. Here are a few places to check out:

https://www.reddit.com/r/slavelabour/

https://www.reddit.com/r/beermoney/

https://www.reddit.com/r/signupsforpay/

http://www.postloop.com/   [Get paid via PayPal for posting in various forums]

Thank you for this post, I checked them and there are really many potential for side income there. However, the last one, particularly the http://www.postloop.com is no longer accepting new signups. All in all, this is a good share for others here that needed some few extra money along the way.
2503  Economy / Gambling / Re: Investing in btc casinos on: October 17, 2016, 10:30:18 AM
You should split your money up in various casinos over a few months then pick 2 or 3 favourite and more profitqble ones and keep your capital split between them. You can keep the slip leaning more towards your favourite casino too if you like. But do your research with any investment you need to do your research to see where your money is going. Dont blindly throw your money around.

You should know one thing in casino investment is diversifying is a very good option but there is no guaranty that past performance will be repeated again in the future. So you can't decide just based on your earlier profit to choose casinos invest but choose most trusted and crowded casino then surely you will make profit.


Yeah its diversifying but casino investment is good since you can earn such profit, unlike you play at it that totally no guarantee for us to earn even single penny profit so even if that is your mindset but still my opinion on casino investment is good since house always wins if you notice that, so the saying really occur on here " if you can't beat then join them" Smiley (correct me if im wrong with this though).

I totally agree with you mate. House will always win in the long run because of the house edge. There will be some negative profits when you invest to these casinos but if you just keep on investing, you will get it back and earn profits in the long run compared to just playing all of your bankroll to these casinos.. You are right, if you can't beat them, join them! Wink
2504  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: October 17, 2016, 10:27:30 AM
Quit all and do what? What could I do to earn more, trading bitcoins, maining or what?


Lol, quit your job and focus on Bitcoin, anything that pays in bitcoin like trading, doing tasks or freelancing,  So basically, OP here is asking if you are willing to take the challenge of quitting your day job that pays in cash and focus your time, effort and money to bitcoin generating activities.


A person who is wise and who thinks practically will never prefer to quit his stable job for bitcoins as he is aware about the risk associated with bitcoins and if it disappears in future then he would be left empty handed.

Yeah logically, it won' t be a smarr thing to do except if you have a veey large capital, though that won' t assure you as well that you'll earn steadily as having a regular job. But hell we all take risks, some maybe successful of they quit their job to focus on bitcoin. I think it just depends on how much you're willing to risk

I took the risk few months ago and it was really a hell drive Cheesy I have 6 months worth of salary that I kept to just keep me going while doing my bitcoin endeavors. However, it is sad that I only all of my savings and still not earning well with bitcoins - I earn some but never even a quarter of my day job monthly salary. Now, I am thankful that I get back my clients and advise everyone here to think it a million times before you quit your day job.
2505  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: October 17, 2016, 04:53:34 AM
Sometimes gambling fix my life, but there are times when I also slumped because of gambling, whether this time I get profit / lose of gambling too much I gamble, until my usual with defeat. I gamble every day if there BTC
that's an addiction mate and it will wreck your life in no time try not to place any btc inside your wallet or if ever you earn some of it make it to an habit to exchange it right away to your local fiat don't let yourself or your life to be wrecked there's still time for you.

Unless he wanted to become a professional gambler, then that is perfectly fine - he can gamble all day and night because that will be his way of life just like any other professional gamblers. However, if he has other responsibilities out there like a day job, then gambling is not a good way to earn a side income because it won't unless you are professional at it.
2506  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: did you put all your money into bitcoin? on: October 17, 2016, 04:50:48 AM
I put most of my money into bitcoin how about you?

So far, No! its only 5% of my savings lately that I invested into bitcoin. And I used it for investment in trading. But every time I earn bitcoin the 20% of it goes in my savings then roll it up again in the exchange.

That is a good strategy of just spending a portion of your money to trading bitcoin. However, each person is different and there are even people out there that only talk about bitcoin in their economic activities. I know for one that every time he buys something, he always think first of bitcoin and then convert them to cash to buy that particular thing. All of his assets revolved around bitcoin.
2507  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: October 17, 2016, 04:48:01 AM
Is staying away too difficult to do? Just stay away. That's it.
If you are too addicted and you feel like you can't stay away, bet all your money for good. If you won, bet it again. Then when you lose, you're gonna stop betting for sure.  Grin

that's a pretty straight forward way to do it and you have a very good point since you won't have any capital for betting anymore. but there are some people who, even if they have nothing, would loan or borrow money or even sell property just to keep their gambling activities active. it's really very difficult to stay away and you may need all the help you can get or if you're just starting to gamble, try to implement strict rules for yourself

but for me it is not difficult to stay away from gambling as we need to join other sources of entertainment if we do not need the source of entertainment from gambling and we need to earn money from any other source rather than gambling.

Yeah I did that before because I'm a certified sports bettor way back years ago. But I used to manage that properly and I am able to stay away from it. What I did is just I used to have the willingness to completely stay away from it and instead with gambling my money I just spend it for eating from delicious restaurants.
this idea might interest most of us here diverting our addiction into much better ways just like you said instead of gamble the money why not
use it and spare time for your self enjoy yor life in my better ways.

That is correct. We better use our hard earned money to better things in life and just spend a little portion of that if we need to play or gamble for fun. If it ain't fun anymore, better stop and do other things than chasing your losses. Life is wonderful and big, we need to explore things in life outside our 4 wall comfort zone.
just be needed to make self assessment knowing that you are willing to move away and make action by doing diversion i think those few advise will help us to think about other good things in life aside enjoying while playing gamble.

Definitely! Life is not all about work and gambling. It is about experiencing life and exploring the world. There are so much thing to do in a day that most of us think that it is a boring day and nothing to do. Go out, go to neighboring town or cities. When it rain outside, go out and enjoy the rain. Life is wonderful, live it!
2508  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: October 17, 2016, 04:44:57 AM
Unpredictable is good word. When you are in.trading business things can go so smooth and you are making nice profit but very soon this can change and you start to lose or getting nowhere. There is no proven strategy that will ensure you to be profitable all the time.
And if you want to earn some substantial amount you need big starting capital.
for me trading is one reasonable job. trading like any other job. oh yes, trading does not require a large capital. we can start from very slightly. for example, we can trade altcoin to conserve our capital.

yes I agree unpredictable but having knowledge and experience would definitely up your chances when trading. you may lose some, but from experiences the movement of the coins will not be negative all the time

But i will not agree that trade is unpredictable as if a person will get experience in trade and that person will learn about different assets and will not invest in new comers then he will be able to predict that what will happen to that particular asset.
yes i also agree with you that if you have good experience in gambling then you can really predict about trading but if you do not have any experience and skill of trading then you cannot predict about trading.
We are trading because we want to invest in ourselves, and to be successful we need to train ourselves to learn all the necessary information as a basis of our decision making, experience will be earn if we do it regularly, and in the long run we will be able to analyze well the right prediction is we keep learning from our mistakes in the past.

That is right - when we trade, we either win or learn. There will be some losing trade from time to time but along the way and when you get the hang of it, you will have more winning trades than losing trades. When you are experienced enough, you will know how to control yourself when there is an immediate pump - by then, you will know where t position yourself for profit.
2509  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I quit trading on: October 17, 2016, 04:41:47 AM
I can surely say that you are in profit even your btc decreased.as the price of bitcoin almost doubled over the last two and half years in terms of dollars.you must use your experience in such a way that you increase you investment.poloniex is right choice for trading

but in trade the traders do not depend on the value of bitcoin as a profit. The profit of traders is the quantity of bitcoins. earning through value rise is only a side profit which the traders get while trading the coins.
That is the point. The trade do not mean to depend our profit on the value of bitcoin or any other coin with which we want to trade but trade is the game of quantity and in it the goal is to increase the amount of or bitcoins/money.
Well, if I trade I aim to increase my bitcoins trading in different assets including altcoins, I love trading altcoins because of the volatility especially the high volume altcoins like the ETH and XMR, actually I have found the trend already for ETH, because when the value of bitcoin increase, ETH fall back its price also.

XMR and ETH has really that volume now but I am quite disappointed with XMR because the price of it now is going way low - although I have keep some of my XMR and will just wait when the right time comes and sell them. I just let it offer for loan now in poloniex and no intention yet of selling it unless the price will spike again soon.
2510  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: October 17, 2016, 04:39:15 AM
I think it's pretty obvious ,
it's gonna be gold for sure,
i mean gold is been there since the beginning and gonna still be till the end so ...

Well even gold is always there from the beginning, we are already in the modern technology years where we are using some modern technology things. And for me, gold has good value and precious but some people doesn't accept it as you buy. Unlike with bitcoin if the people doesn't know how to use it you can just sell it immediately with fiat.
Bitcoin is the modern gold but we cannot still beat the original gold. Just enjoy while the price is high as that is good for our investment  that we can still expect another price increase. Due to its unique platform compared to other payment system, bitcoin has been very popular with the online users.

What the gold holds is its value and just like in any thing, the one with high value is like gold. The reason why  we have high regards with gold is the fact that gold is the true value of your fiat money. However, if we talk about bitcoin, its value and worth now and in the future is very promising just like gold - why? because we see value on it and that is why we use bitcoin because of that value.
2511  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When gambling makes you cry. on: October 17, 2016, 04:28:46 AM
It happened to me when all my earnings from sportsbet got loss in one day playing dice. I earn almost .04 btc don't know but it's all my earnings from betting in sportsbet and for just one day everything was loss because of the martiagale system got 13 straight losing steak left me nothing.
that's bad feeling so awful from this mistake happen to me before when i loss all of my synx from yobit summing it up it almost .07 btc in its current price using martin fail system got 18 streak losses and it burned everything, after a week before i cope up from that loss.

.07 is just a little amount of money to lose in gambling but yes, even that so, it will still feels hurt - how much more if you chase that losses and still betting on and the losses will be greater than that amount, the disappointment will surely be greater, right? That is how bad gambling is if you are too emotional playing, professional gamblers on the other hand, just play on with less emotions.
2512  Economy / Gambling / Re: Investing in btc casinos on: October 17, 2016, 04:25:54 AM

Thank you for this advise. I am now currently invested in betking.io I am considering of investing to other casinos as well. I am about to add some investment to betking but I migt just split it and invest to other casinos. I am checking the forum of other best casinos that accept investors apart from listed above and check each of the casinos in my list.

yeah that's way safer for you , as I said just in case if something wrong happen with one of the sites
in general don't think about the investment results , cause it's a long run thing just think about the house edge and the traffic
and in the long run you should be making money in all of the sites that you have invested in

that is true. Investing to online casinos have risks as well but not on the long term because the system was really designed to win no matter what at the end of the day base on the house edge percentage. If it is just 1% house edge, then your money will profit at least 1% of profit in the long run - yes, there will be negative profits along the way, but if you keep invested, then you will profit along with the casino owners.
2513  Economy / Economics / Re: When do you buy Bitcoin ? on: October 17, 2016, 04:22:13 AM
I was buying till last week when price was at $600 level but now price has gone higher so not buying at a moment and also not having enough capital at a moment to invest in it.

It's good that you set yourself a temporarily pause when it comes to buying Bitcoin. Some people constantly force themselves to buy a certain amount of coins each month. Even when they don't have any free to invest money, they use money they need in their daily lives, just to make sure their coin stash is growing. These people don't know how to set themselves priorities.

That's right and we cannot afford to trust bitcoin blindly by buying at any price as there is a full chance that it may fall in future and if that happens then we need to wait longer to make profits from it.
Buying now is not blindly because it has been analyze that the price will increase in the future as majority had predicted, bitcoin is the gold in the internet that people believes it will give them benefits to transact online and if you still have doubts in the future of bitcoin you have to check its progress this year alone.

That is true. Bitcoin has a lot of potential and surely will increase its price in the near future and the days and years to come. My take on it is that, the reason why it will go high its price is because in our personal experiences with bitcoin, we know how valuable and convenience bitcoin through transacting online. The fee is very cheap and there is a sense of privacy compared to fiat money.
2514  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: October 17, 2016, 04:17:44 AM
Is staying away too difficult to do? Just stay away. That's it.
If you are too addicted and you feel like you can't stay away, bet all your money for good. If you won, bet it again. Then when you lose, you're gonna stop betting for sure.  Grin

that's a pretty straight forward way to do it and you have a very good point since you won't have any capital for betting anymore. but there are some people who, even if they have nothing, would loan or borrow money or even sell property just to keep their gambling activities active. it's really very difficult to stay away and you may need all the help you can get or if you're just starting to gamble, try to implement strict rules for yourself

but for me it is not difficult to stay away from gambling as we need to join other sources of entertainment if we do not need the source of entertainment from gambling and we need to earn money from any other source rather than gambling.

Yeah I did that before because I'm a certified sports bettor way back years ago. But I used to manage that properly and I am able to stay away from it. What I did is just I used to have the willingness to completely stay away from it and instead with gambling my money I just spend it for eating from delicious restaurants.
this idea might interest most of us here diverting our addiction into much better ways just like you said instead of gamble the money why not
use it and spare time for your self enjoy yor life in my better ways.

That is correct. We better use our hard earned money to better things in life and just spend a little portion of that if we need to play or gamble for fun. If it ain't fun anymore, better stop and do other things than chasing your losses. Life is wonderful and big, we need to explore things in life outside our 4 wall comfort zone.
2515  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do Girls also gamble? on: October 17, 2016, 04:14:41 AM
Girls were the best managers of finance all time. Also girls were found over every sectors, so its possible to see girls into gambling. One good thing is that girls stick to limits, so won't get much addicted.

Girls are really good at managing finances, just watch your wife budget everything, which is for us man it's very impossible to budget things coz we are always an impulse buyer... But anyway, yup, they are part of the society and since there is not much law limiting their moves, then they could probably gamble...But I think they don't stay in gambling site for long hours...  Smiley

Agree with you pal, men  dont have  skills on managing  their money  unlike  to women or to our wives thats why we entrust  our money to them because  if we  hold  our  salary for sure  it would be gone in a short period  of time  because most men do spend  on non important things and thats reality.  Girls  do  really gamble especially when they need to entertain theirselves but be sure  that they are not  risking  too much on your money.
Not all men I guess, there are men especially the businessmen know how to manage their money that's why they are successful. But managing money for ordinary people, they might have the income but failed to manage their money, they should learn it as once you have the discipline it would not be hard for you to do it.

In gambling, just like in life, we need to learn proper money management. Fail to learn that would lead us to unwanted losses of our bankroll. Professional gamblers knows very well the house edge and that is why they prefer build many sessions in order to still bet on in case casino takes you and fight back when the odd is in your favor already.
2516  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: October 17, 2016, 04:02:54 AM
It's impossible to rich in gambling unless if you are buying ticket in local lottery that has millions of jackpot prizes.If you are just gamble in poker or any game with low winning chance you can not be rich unless if you are the owner of the gambling casino..

The chance that you will win on that is very small, lots of people bet on lottery... Aside from that you have to choose more numbers which makes the chance of winning smaller and if you win sometimes it's not only you, there are also others that win along with you to get a share... So it is still nearing impossible to get rich on lottery...  Smiley

I disagree that is impossible to be rich on lottery because even your not only the winner or more realistic 3 person wins on lottery you will have a big amount in share and it depends on the jackpot i heared one time 2 person won in a jackpot of about $20,000 a half of $10,000 or likely lets say $8,000 you will also called rich man . On gambling its definitely hard to become rich only few lucky gamblers who wins the jackpot.

But the "chance" to win on those is very small, imagine how many people bet in lottery every day, some even have more than 2 tickets and yet no one win in a day or even in a week, if you start to hope that you will win in lottery then that's bonkers, there's no assurance that you'll get rich there even if you use all your wealth to bet you will never know if you will win, expecting something from it is a false hope..  Smiley

Correct. You will have more chances of getting struck by a lightning than winning in lottery - that how the odds plays against you and anyone that buy lottery tickets. Of course, the reward is very high but there is very little to know assurance at all that you will win. If you will win in lottery, then you are a very lucky one.
2517  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: October 17, 2016, 04:00:01 AM
if you want to quit gambling then you can start trading because trading is very profitable and too much lowest risk have trading and i am sure you can get a big profit from trading.

That's still risky..It could probably be a job but I don't think that it could help in quitting gambling since you are still holding your money and your computer most of the time watching, you'll eventually get bored and start to look for something to do in the internet, so there's a tendency that you'll gamble again...It is still best to go out and enjoy life or find a job that you know could pay you for working there more than office hours...  Smiley

Everything in life have risks. Even courting a lady that you like and love, there is a risk that you will not succeed in getting her. The key is, you know how to mitigate risks and capitalize on the positive side. If you work offline, there is a tendency that the company you will be working will declare some layoff and the like. Yes, I would suggest learn trading than gambling.
2518  Economy / Gambling / Re: Investing in btc casinos on: October 17, 2016, 03:56:40 AM
You should split your money up in various casinos over a few months then pick 2 or 3 favourite and more profitqble ones and keep your capital split between them. You can keep the slip leaning more towards your favourite casino too if you like. But do your research with any investment you need to do your research to see where your money is going. Dont blindly throw your money around.

This is the rules I have followed and my investments have done very well.
so which the three sites you have chosen?? just curious if you don't mind Roll Eyes
i maybe want to try casino investment in the next few weeks after my payday come in ,
never do casino investment before but i see everyone here speaking out loud how nice casino investment ,
make me really jealous and want to try this.

I do agree with Jason about splitting the investment , but not to see which site is doing better
in general and assuming that all the casinos are honest and won't run with your money , then investing in any site even with 0.001% edge is better than letting your coins setting in your wallet
I just divide my investment in case a site runs away or there is some " hack " going on  Grin


Thank you for this advise. I am now currently invested in betking.io I am considering of investing to other casinos as well. I am about to add some investment to betking but I migt just split it and invest to other casinos. I am checking the forum of other best casinos that accept investors apart from listed above and check each of the casinos in my list.
2519  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: October 16, 2016, 12:47:20 PM
Just find distraction. You can go on sports.
Or watch movies/series, play video games.

the important thing is just that you yourself have to say that gambling is not good.

Yeah, distractions are good, aside from what you've mention, if you are still staying with your mom and dad, better ask them what task can you do daily, for sure there are many and if you are already working, go for it, work hard and focus on it to earn not by hoping to earn in gambling. If you are just starting out to gamble, it's easier to stay away from it.

When you are still new at gambling and you have current work and you tend to like gambling already that you play almost every day, better stop at once if you don't want to put your life on a messy situation. However, if you want to study and become a professional gambler, then by all means play on regularly and learn strategies and techniques in gambling.
2520  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: October 16, 2016, 12:44:01 PM
Unpredictable is good word. When you are in.trading business things can go so smooth and you are making nice profit but very soon this can change and you start to lose or getting nowhere. There is no proven strategy that will ensure you to be profitable all the time.
And if you want to earn some substantial amount you need big starting capital.
for me trading is one reasonable job. trading like any other job. oh yes, trading does not require a large capital. we can start from very slightly. for example, we can trade altcoin to conserve our capital.

yes I agree unpredictable but having knowledge and experience would definitely up your chances when trading. you may lose some, but from experiences the movement of the coins will not be negative all the time

When you always make a trade, you will eventually be well aware as to the timing on when to buy and sell. In the process, you will have many losses - the same thing even if you are well experienced already, you will still encounter losses. However, when you are quite veteran already in trading, you know what to do in order for you to get more chances of winning Smiley
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