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2521  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Will they be adding all the paid anti-trump protestors to the employment figures on: February 05, 2017, 05:32:15 PM
No wonder the US has full employment  Cheesy Grin
2522  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The universal revenue on: February 05, 2017, 02:37:09 PM


 Smiley

I bet you hate bankers and big banks right?  Cheesy
2523  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Free Bytes on Feb 11 ? on: February 05, 2017, 02:28:11 PM
It didnt got promoted more because else the first rounders wouldnt got their ridic amount of byteballs.
Just look up the numbers.
2524  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump: safe zones for syria; imminent us-russian war? on: February 05, 2017, 02:16:38 PM
What interests?! Why would US' interests conflict with Russian at Syria? Obama's "friend" and ISIS leader, Erdogan*, may be interested into get Syria to restart his Ottoman Empire, but this doesn't mean Trump will play along.
As for oil, Russians and Americans can cut it 50-50.

* Won't you find strange his priorities to be 1st eliminate PKK (Curds), 2nd Assad and "finally" 3rd ISIS/Daesh... Also FSA was trained at Turkey and most just changed allegiance on arrival to ISIS.

US wont need it.
Trump jusr declared that the US will be energy (oil) independent in his term.
He wants to increase US production by some million barrels per day and enact a import tariff for foreign oil.
The first steps are already done with the new pipelines and free drilling on public land.

How can there be peace if this decision will bring putin and russia on the brink of bankruptcy?
The USA becoming energy independant or moving in that direction will not put putin on the brink of bankruptcy.  World energy prices are NOT controlled by the USA.  Or by Putin for that matter.

Think about it again.
The US imports 25% of their oil.
This 25% will not be needed anymore. Who is gonny buy it now?
Same supply, less demand what do you think happens in the aftermath?

We will see 20$ per barrel again and that would directly translate into a bankruptcy of russia.

Like did you already forgot what happened since 2014?!
2525  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Silk Road Drug Dealer Admits Guilt in Murder Case on: February 05, 2017, 02:05:10 PM
I think that Kevin Campbell is innocent in this case. If an user doesn't know how to use drugs, then why blame the dealer? If someone dies from drunken driving, are you going to arrest the driver, or the CEO of the alcohol company which produced that particular brand of alcohol?

He is guilty of selling drugs illegally. The fact that those drugs ended up killing someone, he becomes an accessory to murder. This is standard law. The drunk driver is not a good example of comparison. It is more like a car company that sells faulty brakes with their cars. They distribute to dealers, and let's say this dealer knew of the faulty brakes but did nothing about it. He would be just as guilty as the car company.

Not sure that is a better example. Either way, Campbell sold drugs illegally, that is his primary guilt, and the death happens to become a murder charge. Maybe murder was a harsh use in the article and we should have used second degree...

Nono he is innocent.
Welcome to the world of russians trolls.

The only people who should be able to give out heavy drugs are doctors who work for clinics specialised in drug abuse (see portugal).
2526  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Saudi diplomat sentenced to caning in Singapore for sexual abuse on: February 05, 2017, 02:01:38 PM
If you have the money to pay 1000 bucks a night, why do you go somewhere? Tours in Thailand became so widespread because there are no stringent laws for sexual harassment and a lot of cheap prostitutes.

Tours in Thailand became so famous because what is not legal in the western nations is legal there. Also, most of the girls trafficked in to the sex trade are from the minority hill tribes. The Thai government is not much concerned about them, as long as the majority ethnic Thais are able to make money.

Isnt prostitution illegal everywhere besides in western nation?
Atleast prostitution is illegal by law in thailand.

Not sure what he means by stuff that is legal there and not in western nations.

Maybe a thai sex tourist can explain?
2527  Other / Politics & Society / Trump supporters unite on: February 05, 2017, 01:55:37 PM
#boycott_budweiser_buy_corona_and_krombacher

 Wink
2528  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The universal revenue on: February 05, 2017, 12:14:03 PM

As for your frequent use of the word "spammer" it takes one to know one.

You compare his posts to those made by the people whom he accuses of spamming. You will notice that the latter category of posts are having much better quality than the former. Most of his posts are just verbal abuse directed against the other users. The reason why I have added him to the ignore list. Not worth the time and effort arguing with him.

Yawn.
You are known as one of the worst posters on this board who is also a putin shill. Nobody cares what you say or who you have ignored.
Sig spamming russian troll. Smiley
2529  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 05, 2017, 06:33:22 AM
I love 4 digits.
Gentleman   Wink
2530  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [NEWS] Trump freezes immigration + POLL on: February 05, 2017, 06:18:59 AM
To get a green card is actually very difficult. My friend lives and works in America for 18 years and does not have citizenship. To get a green card in a poor country is almost impossible.

That's what happens if you go through the legal route. Your friend should have immigrated to the US illegally, and produced a dozen anchor babies. By now, his children would have been able to sponsor him as a legal resident.

Right can only make anchor babies if you an illegal immigrant  Cheesy
2531  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The universal revenue on: February 05, 2017, 06:01:47 AM
People should focuss on education and not 500€ mc donalds jobs. Until 2050 majority of manufacturing and service oriented jobs will be automated.

People will always work because they strife to have a better life. And social welfare or universal income will just make it possible to survive.
Let me get this straight, you'd like to focus on education and would like other people to not only provide schools (free education), but also pay you €500 (or whatever), so you could sustain yourself for the time of learning. What else? Maybe a girl to prepare your bath and kiss goodnight at the expense of the taxpayers?
All those people, including you, have struggled to survive without social welfare and universal income, so sad.

No i for sure dont need to.

People like you who earn 500€ in a full time job need to.
Be happy that i want to provide free education and some living standards to stupid people like you with my tax money.

Because if not you will be one of these no job starving beggars in the streets 20 years from now.

Like wtf. You earn your living with a fuckin sig campaign. Dont you feel ashamed to talk like that?
2532  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The universal revenue on: February 05, 2017, 05:54:38 AM
In west, north and south europe welfare is not time limited. Not sure about east europe.

Germany has by far the highest social standards if you include healthcare and similiar into social welfare
(Re immigrant welfare heaven).
They have full employment - now look at nations who have time limited welfare or no welfare at all.
You literaly have 3rd world conditions relating to criminality and poverty.

Im european but most of the time im still talking in dollar terms.

I don't force anything on you. In fact i dont even care what your opinion is. Im just saying that you have no clue what you are talking about and that is why you are just a retarded (sig) spammer.


What is your argument?

Germany did a great job with immigrant welfare. Now the thieves and rapists are getting paid and have a lot of free time to hunt for new prey and complain about bad wifi transfers.

I wouldn't link those 3rd world conditions to low welfare but rather to high unemployment rates and low average wages.

We were talking in Euro terms from the beginning, even the linked article is about a € country

If you don't care about my opinion, why do you keep answering my posts and quoting me? A hobby or a deviation?
I have posted my arguments in the previous posts. I thought you didn't care...

As for your frequent use of the word "spammer" it takes one to know one.

Communist germany the richest and strongest economy in the world. Oh the irony.

Did you read the article? It is also about canada and other nations who try it.
Canada is for sure not in Europe.

It seems you are too dumb to realize but i am calling you out on your uninformed nonsense.
Your "arguments" are just uninformed ramblings.
You are talking about a topic that you dont understand at all.
Paired with a sig campaign it makes you a idiotic sig spammer.

Also try to be more unique and dont copy my words. Yawn.
2533  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump: safe zones for syria; imminent us-russian war? on: February 05, 2017, 05:32:51 AM
What interests?! Why would US' interests conflict with Russian at Syria? Obama's "friend" and ISIS leader, Erdogan*, may be interested into get Syria to restart his Ottoman Empire, but this doesn't mean Trump will play along.
As for oil, Russians and Americans can cut it 50-50.

* Won't you find strange his priorities to be 1st eliminate PKK (Curds), 2nd Assad and "finally" 3rd ISIS/Daesh... Also FSA was trained at Turkey and most just changed allegiance on arrival to ISIS.

US wont need it.
Trump jusr declared that the US will be energy (oil) independent in his term.
He wants to increase US production by some million barrels per day and enact a import tariff for foreign oil.
The first steps are already done with the new pipelines and free drilling on public land.

How can there be peace if this decision will bring putin and russia on the brink of bankruptcy?
2534  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The universal revenue on: February 05, 2017, 05:21:01 AM
Your so wrong..If you give to much it will make people lazy..
Go and check how many people worked while claiming benefits..
The government had snoops who would go around checking out if people were working while claiming benefits
so they could stop that benefit..Called working on the side..

When i was growing up i knew many many people claiming while working BUT hoping they never got caught.

The government spent billions on investigators investigating people working while claiming..
THEY STILL DO..

Now how much do we pay in subsidies to big companies and banks BILLIONS every year..

give people 200 a week they will want to make 500..Give them a 1000 they will sit on butt Wink..

I know it would work..
And it's not just the unemployed who get it EVERYONE GETS IT even if your worth 10 million..
A billion even..Everyone gets it..

How do banks give a loan ..PRESS A FEW BUTTONS..
Humans do the work not money Wink..

I WILL WIN ..Universal income for all so we all got a starting point to live Grin..

Now if your from a country that pays low wages quarter average wage and pay that amount in benefits each week..

So we in the uk say middle class on 600 to 800 a week.. so we pay 150 to 200 a week for free

What if you don't give people said €200, does it mean they will die or turn to crime? Why would we expect to be given anything for granted? I know people, who weren't given any money from the government and none of them ended up as a beggar or a thief. Think about all those drug addicts and alcoholics, who will now start getting (like you said) 150 or 200 a week, for free. Will they start their own business or run to the dealer?
Why would you need the government to worry about your starting point? Shouldn't one's family take care of that? How did all previous generations, those that had no universal revenue, manage to start their lives?

Because people lived in caves 50.000 years ago we should do that today too?
The difference between most of us is intelligence.

People should focuss on education and not 500€ mc donalds jobs. Until 2050 majority of manufacturing and service oriented jobs will be automated.

People will always work because they strife to have a better life. And social welfare or universal income will just make it possible to survive.

But nvm i dont think that you are able to comprehend even such an easy concept.
2535  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The universal revenue on: February 05, 2017, 05:15:19 AM
In west, north and south europe welfare is not time limited. Not sure about east europe.
Additionaly you always get social welfare. You didnt had to work in the past to be eligible for social welfare.
In germany if you lose your job you will get 75% of your original wage for up to 2 years until you get infinite social welfare.
Again you dont know what you are talking about.

Germany has by far the highest social standards if you include healthcare and similiar into social welfare
(Re immigrant welfare heaven).
They have full employment - now look at nations who have time limited welfare or no welfare at all.
You literaly have 3rd world conditions relating to criminality and poverty.

Im european but most of the time im still talking in dollar terms.

I don't force anything on you. In fact i dont even care what your opinion is. Im just saying that you have no clue what you are talking about and that is why you are just a retarded (sig) spammer.


What is your argument?

Maybe something else then i dont like welfare even though im actuallly loving it in the form of sig spamming.
2536  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The universal revenue on: February 05, 2017, 04:18:45 AM
This is giving people a fish instead of a rod. A ridiculous idea in my opinion.
It encourages the unemployed to remain as they are, because if they could somehow manage with no job and no money, why should they start looking for one if they get paid every month regardless of what they choose to do? €500 is a large sum, I haven't been earning this much in my first full-time job, so If I were offered this money for free I would have stayed at home and maybe work from there part-time.


You dont understand what universal income is and how the related countries are implementing it.
I really would advise you to research more about it before you are posting (nonsense).

There wont be 500€ checks in nations where the average income is 100€.

Edit

Btw. You are earning 500€ with sig spamming... atleast the welfare people dont spam nonsense all day long.
What a great response! You resort to calling me a spammer, because I have a different opinion. And of course no response to my argument of fish and rod and the incentive for the unemployed to stay unemployed, how typical.
The average income of €100? Look who's talking nonsense. Show me an € country with an average income of €100, even €200, I dare you.

Please. You looked like a idiot and now you look like a retard.
But ok i will explain again:

1. You are the one that said your first full time job got you 500€ per month.

2. welfare is always lower then average income.

3. Universal income replaces welfare.


@fish and rod

Care to explain why not every western and northern european is on welfare (people there get more then 500€ per month welfare)?
The answer is very easy. Social welfare is just enough to survive.
No new jordans, no vacation, no bio food, no cars.


Fact is you dont know what universal income is nor understand how people want to implement it but you are still posting nonsense. Spammer.

More questions?


Edit

Btw. Where did i say something about 500€ average income in an EU nation?


2537  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The universal revenue on: February 05, 2017, 02:02:29 AM
This is giving people a fish instead of a rod. A ridiculous idea in my opinion.
It encourages the unemployed to remain as they are, because if they could somehow manage with no job and no money, why should they start looking for one if they get paid every month regardless of what they choose to do? €500 is a large sum, I haven't been earning this much in my first full-time job, so If I were offered this money for free I would have stayed at home and maybe work from there part-time.


You dont understand what universal income is and how the related countries are implementing it.
I really would advise you to research more about it before you are posting (nonsense).

There wont be 500€ checks in nations where the average income is 100€.

Edit

Btw. You are earning 500€ with sig spamming... atleast the welfare people dont spam nonsense all day long.
I think that is a modified communism. The consequences of such equalization we have seen in the example of the Soviet Union, Cuba, North Korea. Is not the same people. One works in the store and the other in mine. They will equally earn?

...

We arent talking about wages.
Universal income will replace social welfare and everyone will be eligible for it.

Your example is wrong.
10 more post and you can join a sig campaign Smiley
2538  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What happened to NAVcoin/ShadowCash? on: February 04, 2017, 11:26:47 PM
because bitcoin price is very high incraese so all altcoin can down price
few altcoin is ready few down price, but another coin is hard down price and extreme down price, mayne navcoin and shadowcash include is hard down price

Yolo Cheesy
2539  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The universal revenue on: February 04, 2017, 11:10:05 PM
This is giving people a fish instead of a rod. A ridiculous idea in my opinion.
It encourages the unemployed to remain as they are, because if they could somehow manage with no job and no money, why should they start looking for one if they get paid every month regardless of what they choose to do? €500 is a large sum, I haven't been earning this much in my first full-time job, so If I were offered this money for free I would have stayed at home and maybe work from there part-time.


You dont understand what universal income is and how the related countries are implementing it.
I really would advise you to research more about it before you are posting (nonsense).

There wont be 500€ checks in nations where the average income is 100€.

Edit

Btw. You are earning 500€ with sig spamming... atleast the welfare people dont spam nonsense all day long.
2540  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The universal revenue on: February 04, 2017, 10:38:42 PM
There is more and more people in Europe pledging for an universal revenue. Benoît Hamon, one of the favourite candidates for 2017 French presidential election is for exemple defending it. So there is a probability that next year France could adopt it. I would like to hear your friendly or hostile positions toward this proposition.

It is already more or less reality in finland. We just need to sit back and study them.

www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/03/finland-trials-basic-income-for-unemployed

Funny is both left and right wing parties want it.
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