I've seen a certian amount of footage of (supposedly) Chinese people being dragged away screaming while seeming to be fighting for their lives.  I didn't get that 'fake sense' very strongly on most of these vids (unlike most of the 'beheading' and 'school shooting' vids.)  I also noted that the people seemed to be fighting pretty strongly.  Not what I would expect from someone who is nearly dead from acute respiratory infections.

I gotta wonder if the main problem that some of these people might have is a low 'social credit score' more than a biological infection.  That is the basic concern of those of us who are leery of invasive tracking and totalitarian states, but I didn't think it would be happening so blatantly and so soon.  Perhaps TPTB over there decided to 'not let a good crisis go to waste'.

It also seems possible to me that if there were relatively large-scale epidemiological studies as part of a drug test and that development started to go sideways, the study could be canceled and people who were not in a control group could be rounded up and {something}'d to try to hide the damage.  In other words, simplify the task of 'controlling the narrative.'

If the Chinese were testing different kinds of drugs (esp, vaccines) I would not expect the subjects to have any say-so or any knowledge of what part they were playing.  That's a handy element of socialized medicine in a highly controlled and structured totalitarian society.  But records would be kept in someone's files and one could get the proverbial 'knock on the door' pretty much out of the blue.  Whatever the case, the victims and their families seemed to sense that something very bad was up.

Nobody is arguing these things.

You may be the victim of a rather simple form of mind control.  Basically, on 'the reservation' what you know about the beliefs of other side is what those running the reservation tell you those beliefs are.  And they mis-inform you about the beliefs.  Deliberately.

You should get 'off the reservation' and go out for some fresh air from time to time.  You might ultimately find life off of the reservation to be preferable.

There is a reason why bioweapon research facilities such as Plum Island are almost always called 'animal disease centers'.  It's not just silly propaganda or a funny joke to the staff and faculty.  They really do study the fuck out of the diseases which often have been first identified in animal stock, and animals are used extensively in the research and production.  Weaponization involves figuring out how to get them to infect a target species (usually homo sapien) and selection of desirable parameters of the infection.  'gain of function.'

People have a mis-understanding that bioweapons always have a high lethality.  Very often such a thing would be a bug rather than a feature.  Plenty of weapons already fit that need.  Non-lethal bioweapons can have a much greater overall impact if they can be deployed over a broad target and over many years.  Subtle effects go undetected but have a huge overall impact.

It is also worth note that most leaderships (rightly) consider the biggest threat to their position to be the population they lead and expend a lot of the resources at their disposal in dealing with the threat.  Further, the population of ones own country is a much more exploitable source of wealth.  With the right kind of medical system, a modestly sick individual can still perform functions in the economy but can be milked by the medical/industrial complex for the rest of their life.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT6gCqulCok

The earth is always either warming or cooling.  As a trend it happens to be warming since the last ice age.  So yes, you are right.  That is a 'factual fact', or quite close to it.


Seems far more likely that geo-engineering will cause these sorts of issues.  In fact, for 50 plus years that was the goal or geo-engineering and most of the work on it was justified as 'defense'.

What the 'man made global warming' hoax did was allowed geo-engineering to be rolled out and got the same simpletons who would normally have been against it to be instead begging for it and happy to pay the bill.

So yes, 'increased temperatures' allowed the fraud which allowed geo-engineering to really be kicked into high gear and do all the nasty things which were so appealing to the designers.  Some of them you've enumerated.

Some people would consider it as a living proof of the Bioweapons Engineer existence.

Some say that these cities have been built for certain of the chosen elite when the U.S. is imploded.  Interesting theory.  Time will tell.  Of course if it works out that way it doesn't mean it was planned or anything like that.

http://www.visiontimes.com/2017/12/04/arabella-kushner-shook-the-chinese-community-with-her-fluent-mandarin.html

For some reason The Killing Fields movie is on youtube at the moment.  Bernie Bros and Sanders campaign staff make their appearance at about 50:10 and continue to do their thing through the remainder of the movie.

Dr. James Lyons-Weiler has emerged as one of the highly credible scientists associated with this issue.  In my mind at least.  He pointed out that while the actual papers which studied coronavirus vaccine development uncovered a nasty surprise (it made people get sicker upon re-infection like dengue fever) write-ups about this research tended to focus on the good points and leave the nasty part out.  Dr. Lyons-Weiler's 'recommended reading' post has links to several of these papers:  https://jameslyonsweiler.com/2020/02/07/2019-ncov-vaccine-recommended-readings/

The reason why this could be important is that one _hypothesis_ is that if the Chinese had entered into wide-spread trials, everyone who was a participant could be at greater risk.  If policy makers read only the write-ups on the studies and not the studies themselves then it is quite possible to figure that phase-II or phase-III testing should be fine.  The magic of totalitarianism is that scientists don't need to bother with informing people about almost anything.  And people show up on time for their 'medical treatment'...if they don't they get a lowered social credit score.

Why might the Chinese want to be out in front on a coronavirus vaccine?  The simplest explanation is purely economic.  If they had a 'common cold vaccine' then it would be worth a lot in the global market.  Especially now that entire populations are being forced to take whatever vaccines 'public health officials' say they need (and often enough said officials are financial beneficiaries of the corporation who make the vaccines.)  Of course there are other possible reasons as well.

The above hypothesis (vaccine trials subjects) could be totally wrong as well and nothing like that happened.  The forensic analysis will be to see who did the dieing and who did the living of the people who were expose or infected.  If the deaths were clustered around people who underwent 'medical care' in certain places for certain time periods, that will be a meaningful observation to match against the hypothesis.

Looks like whoever released SARS++ was more fearful of the intellectual property owner's attorneys than pissing off the dumb sheeple who kicked the bucket drowning in their own pulmonary secretions.  How's this for timing:

Correction: _You_ were talking about the CCP.  A lot.  Hmmm...

As a matter of fact, if the virus did jump to humans first in the 'wet market' I would take it as a strong indication that the WHO/CCP and their BL4 lab may have had nothing to do with it.  Since I'm quite sure it came from a lab, being 'detonated' in the wet market guarantees that it was a deliberate act which any BL4 lab could have originated...and there are a lot of BL4 labs around and about.  In other words, that it was a classic 'false flag.'

'Defensive'?  How so?  Perhaps just a wee bit of projection going on there, amigo?

Neither of us would probably shed many tears if this thing, no matter how it went down, took out the CCP, but it would be a severe disappointment to me if the peeps jumped out of the frying pan and into the fire.  I want the truth no matter what it is.

And a good one.  The decade has peer-reviewed the fuck out of the white-paper.  I'm liking how it turned out.

Same question on a different thread, so same answer:

In climate-change-land a few names of people who I have confidence in:

  Richard Lindzen
  Judith Curry
  Freeman Dyson
  Murray Salby

I'll add here that one of the BIG reasons I have some confidence in these people is BECAUSE people and organizations who I don't trust at all have tried to do hatchet-jobs on them, and in ham-fisted ways which are clearly bogus when one takes the time to study the whole story.  In vax-land a counterpart would be Dr. Andrew Wakefield.

I think it fair to say that the leadership of most countries of significant size, and especially most of those who have access to nuclear and similar weapons,  fear their domestic population more than external enemies.  That is the one force which could actually topple the leadership from power.  Being out maneuvered by an adversary will cost money but won't get a guy hung from a meat hook.

I wouldn't say that China differs significantly from any other comparable country in this way, but I don't have reason to doubt the general idea behind this:


I believe that the U.S. probably spends a great deal more than China on internal security, but we spend such a vast amount externally in maintaining our empire that we are one of the few who actually does spend more on classic military than on internal security.
I'll bet that the U.S..

As for "a country run by gangsters and cartels", I could not come up with a better description of the oligarchy which runs the United States at this time.  Probably China too, but I don't know enough about the politics of that country to say one way or another.

In climate-change-land a few names of people who I have confidence in:

  Richard Lindzen
  Judith Curry
  Freeman Dyson
  Murray Salby

Oh ya.  NASA.  Ya, that figures.  Since Obama, NASA's mission is to make Muslims feel good about their scientific achievements and pump the climate change scam.  They don't even bother with getting into space any more.  Just outsource it to corporate cronies.

Rats!  Jewtube took down Ramzpaul's hilariously funny and poignant video of the above so I cannot readily provide a link.  Oh well.

If I get bitten by a tick and it gives me flu-like symptoms, I immediately take a round of antibiotics just in case.  I've done so twice in the past decade (and have not done so when a tick bite has not made me ill.)  This because I have a rather well developed understanding of the methods by which borrelia burgdorferi bacteria work in the body and what does and what does not work against them.

I also have a fairly well developed understanding of the history of using ticks and other such creatures to distribute non-lethal biological warfare agents through a population and an idea of the other microorganisms which have been deployed in this manner.  This just from researching a variety of readily available information.  Running to corp/gov for a 'cure' for something they very likely are responsible for giving you in the first place has some problems which I would hope are fairly apparent.

BTW, did you get your 'LYMErix™ vaccine'?  How'd that work out for ya?

As we learned from climate-gate, the 'peer review' process in climate-land is a meaningless circle-jerk of scientpriest conspirators.

You'd have to look pretty hard a 'peer-review' of anything which doesn't support the fraud because anyone who did so will be black-listed from academia and will have to find a new line of work.

On the flip side, a 'peer review' of the most flawed and ridiculous 'climate-change-caused-foo' paper will sail right through the 'peer review' process in it's current implementation.  So 'peer review' is doubly meaningless.

Beyond that, even the pro-vaxxers don't claim that these things last 'for life'.  They want people constantly coming back to the clinic for periodic 'boosters' because what immunity they may or may not (fairly often not) confer is transient at best.

Getting the trivial childhood right-of-passage ailment and being mildly sick for a few days almost always gives life-long immunity which, as an adult, the mother passes on to her nursing child when the newborn infant is vulnerable.  This is real 'herd immunity'.  All the corp/gov vaccine lobby did is screwed up herd immunity that worked well for a hundred thousand years in a lot of these cases.

In other cases such as whooping cough they also made some people into asymptomatic carriers of the wild strain microbe so they spread it around everywhere they go.  Since the vaccine is increasingly failing to give any immunological protection at all, the increasing number of 'outbreaks' are in highly vaccinated populations and infecting people who are supposed to be 'protected because they are 'up-to-date.'

Wonder how many of these entities run on grant money.  Grant money which wouldn't be their unless they play ball on the climate change scam.  I'll bet every last one of them.

This reminds me of the 'big list' of formed a 'consensus' of U.S. 'intelligence agencies' who found that Russia hacked the election (or one similar idiotic assertion from that time.)  It included entities who obviously had no reason or ability to look into the matter.  e.g., the Coast Guard.  It was obvious that they just signed some piece of paper which was thrust in front of the director's face.  Totally meaningless and a joke.