It's free to mine for everyone since the first minute.
Premine by definition is something that got mined in the genesis block by the developer for various purposes. The word is 100% used for this definition on this forum.
because no one cares. I said caring.... |
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I'm seeing a few exchanges mirroring this. wasn't hard to find.
XMR/BTC 0.001551 ↓ -16.17 %
DASH/BTC 0.008049 ↑ -9.35 %
See the arrows there? One is going back up, other is continuing down.
Dash €2.9968
High: 3.42921005
Low: 2.78909078
Monero ... _ wait, there's nothing for fiat. odd.. Funny how prices go down when BTC goes up isnt it? Monero is dropping more though by your logic that means it's dead right? Why would you guys continue to argue over your personal and vested interests?
I have XMR @ .0018 on Polo and on coinmarketcap? Now, I see what you did, you cherry picked from BTER's low volume of 0.03% Was easy to do. Google gave it as the first result. Not the only one like that. The ones you mention look like a bubble is going to burst. Looks like BTC did before it dropped below 1200. Good warning to sell now. I'm guessing you did or are trying to ride the wave a little more before you do. Risky game. Regardless, when you can actually do something with it other than trade, maybe i'll come back you and tell you that your coin has some actual value. First off, you said a few exchanges had that price--I only found one, and it was the one with the lowest volume. So either you are confused what "a few" means or you are intentionally being deceptive--IE, you are lying. Secondly, if you go through my post history, you'll see that I'm a long time XMR supporter and "riding the wave," is an incorrect supposition on your part. But good luck in your trading. |
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I'm seeing a few exchanges mirroring this. wasn't hard to find.
XMR/BTC 0.001551 ↓ -16.17 %
DASH/BTC 0.008049 ↑ -9.35 %
See the arrows there? One is going back up, other is continuing down.
Dash €2.9968
High: 3.42921005
Low: 2.78909078
Monero ... _ wait, there's nothing for fiat. odd.. Funny how prices go down when BTC goes up isnt it? Monero is dropping more though by your logic that means it's dead right? Why would you guys continue to argue over your personal and vested interests?
I have XMR @ .0018 on Polo and on coinmarketcap? Now, I see what you did, you cherry picked from BTER's low volume of 0.03% |
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Just now occurred to me.. when the crypto revolution happens and everyone is using digital currencies for everything, how in the world are we supposed to use XMR, AEON, BTC to snort blow, "make it rain" on strippers, etc.? *Sigh* I guess we'll have to behave once the economy has matured to a more sophisticated way of doing business... And people said dealing in cryptos were fun... my ass  I guess making it rain for a web cam girl isn't quite as visceral.  BUT as far as cocaine goes, there are companies working on brain stimulation methods that mimic popular drugs, so I'm sure they'll take payment in digital cash.  |
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Quick psychological analysis of Herp. Sees his dash investment stagnate, then suddenly sees, what is in his mind, the main competitor jumping in volume and in price, so he does what any good bag holder does, panics. His fear then incites him to ridiculous attacks, which because they are motivated by fear, have the impact of raising attention to Monero's rise--probably not a good thing to be pointing out to others, but like a boyfriend who tells his ex, "you only like him because he has a big X," he ends up drawing attention to the competitor's better attributes and his deficencies. I say take a nap and let your head clear, but I doubt your fear will let you act pragmatically. X=bank account (maybe)  |
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I haven't been on BTC for two years, and the last time I was on here I was vouching for NEO&BEE. I just came out hiding to protect everyone from the evil Monerians--BUY DASH! (please)
It's like you didn't even know what you meant to say. |
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The devs running this coin should go to jail for defrauding investors, fooling them into buying into an orchestrated pump.
They've paid some Poloniex day traders few k to fool around with the coin.
From a coin with a shitty daily volume of 20-30k/day USD few weeks ago it grew to 800k volume. Give me a break.
Where was this concern when NEO & BEE was going under two years ago? @uhoh
We've heard from Danny on Monday. Let's give it few more days at least for more updates. Danny is working to come before us with something concrete, like a resolution and a plan to move things forward. He said as much in his Monday statement. Let's give the guy a breather and a few days to work things out.
We can be passive and moan about it, give more ammo to competitor paid shills, fall into their traps or try to be proactive and help out as much as we can. I'm personally not much of a fan of the lazy distant type of investor, who sits on his ass waiting for the paycheck to come. We can all get involved to help Neo grow, each one of us can contribute to the efforts. If not by actually promoting it and helping out in a direct way, we should at least keep our emo fits and tantrums in check.
Be sure that if Danny doesn't come forward with specific statements, he has good reasons for it and many of these are in the best interest of shareholders. I can mention a few in PMs if you want.
If you are going to come out of the woodwork two years after vouching for a scam (where were you all that time?), then your first move shouldn't be screaming scam when there isn't one. Maybe get a new account or build back what little reputation you squandered. If you are getting paid, I hope they get a refund. |
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The devs running this coin should go to jail for defrauding investors, fooling them into buying into an orchestrated pump.
They've paid some Poloniex day traders few k to fool around with the coin.
From a coin with a shitty daily volume of 20-30k/day USD few weeks ago it grew to 800k volume. Give me a break.
Peter Todd's tweet and Shen breaking SDC's anonymity had something to do with that--though those things are verifiable, whereas your claim is only verifiable by your bias--my bias says that some of that volume is dashers leaving a sinking ship. |
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Price goes up, trolls come out to play. It's like an immutable law of physics that price and troll activity are positively correlated Quite the opposite - troll developers paid whale spineless traders to create a pump and a value trap for unsuspecting victims. When this moNERO black turd tanks, it will go to 2-3 million mkt cap, lower than before. Here you are little bitter shill.  And we were all kindly answering your questions... At least some answers will be useful for newbies genuinely interested. The best revenge is to show your enemies how much they've helped you. (I think Nietzsche said that, but the internet won't confirm) |
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Monero as in Money Nero = Black Money? Shitty name if you're looking for trouble.
You should consider a rebranding like Dash did.
No. Make sure your assumptions are correct before commenting on them. Monero is "currency" in Esperanto. The nero=black suffix is still there and ugly if you ask me. Doesn't look good. http://dictionary.reverso.net/italian-english/neroOnce you've had black you never go back--especially if the choices are between an opaque blockchain and a clear one. I think you've made the argument for the name stronger, not weaker. Well at least one of you guys has the balls to say it like it is. You're wrong though. The Black Money name is good for a limited niche of cryptodope fiends, smoking stuff bought from your black market of choice but poor choice if you want to have a broad appeal. I didn't imply that Monero was for the dark web only, I was implying that any digital cash benefits from being an opaque blockchain rather than a clear one--fungibility. |
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Monero as in Money Nero = Black Money? Shitty name if you're looking for trouble.
You should consider a rebranding like Dash did.
No. Make sure your assumptions are correct before commenting on them. Monero is "currency" in Esperanto. The nero=black suffix is still there and ugly if you ask me. Doesn't look good. http://dictionary.reverso.net/italian-english/neroOnce you've had black you never go back--especially if the choices are between an opaque blockchain and a clear one. I think you've made the argument for the name stronger, not weaker. |
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There is no problem. john-conner doesn't understand how computers work.
Mighty o mighty smooth please tell us how computer works. Mighty o mighty smooth please tell us how computer works. Do they work like you are thinking... ...or you think like when you drinking ...do you feel your brain is shrinking ...you don't even know you thinking ...thinking damage your brain cells ...you should think before you bells John Connor "invented" vanilla coin which is original as the name (he gave himself and the coin), but most can see the code's the same as another coin we've found to be original and innovative with a Dev who's well known through the power his creation. Now Connor's shills are betting stupid people will buy their heavy bags of fool's gold and overly vapid arguments of jealous Devs-- Now Smooth stands a Terminator to this wimpy-kid impersonator. Well, try again, I know you can do better. Oh I can, but the subject matter is pretty juvenile. If it makes one non-vanilla shill laugh, mission accomplished. |
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There is no problem. john-conner doesn't understand how computers work.
Mighty o mighty smooth please tell us how computer works. Mighty o mighty smooth please tell us how computer works. Do they work like you are thinking... ...or you think like when you drinking ...do you feel your brain is shrinking ...you don't even know you thinking ...thinking damage your brain cells ...you should think before you bells John Connor "invented" vanilla coin which is original as the name (he gave himself and the coin), but most can see the code's the same as another coin we've found to be original and innovative with a Dev who's well known through the power his creation. Now Connor's shills are betting stupid people will buy their heavy bags of fool's gold and overly vapid arguments of jealous Devs-- Now Smooth stands a Terminator to this wimpy-kid impersonator. |
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I'm sad inside Dedicated troll(s). The more spiteful, angry, lying, deceitful, FUD-topic creating and logically challenged, the better. |
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I wrote double-top then down -30%, then I wrote "buy the dip!" and it is up 25%, and get ready to sell again so we can go down again.
Isn't this yoyo fun. We are building the future for our grandchildren here. Serious accomplishments.
Sure you did...  And again my bolded prediction was true. I am controlling the price of ETH with my posts. Not very amazing, because the insiders can't pump it up when readers here are selling, which indicates there isn't much real volume (other than insiders buying from themselves) that isn't coming from this forum. Just goes to show what a cruel joke (i.e. pitiful useless PoShit) this Ethereum is. Just curious, are you buying the Ethereum when your comments suppress the Ethereum price? So that you can buy more? He's trying to look smart. No one here takes him seriously that's why people love trolling him. Given that his assessment lines up with some of the smartest people in the room, I'd be careful making proclamations like that--I'd also be wary of Eth's price reflecting his and other's assessments of Eth's possibility of doing what it claims it will be able to do. Sooner or later expectations get measured against reality and playing the market (when over exuberant expectations are likely in play) is like a game of chicken with Reality in a snow storm--you know it's probably coming, but do you WHEN to change lanes? |
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I could counter that a continual release of bots could create a self-replicating virus used to secure a coin's decentralization--think of it as Delueze's idea of capitalism as parasite taken to its logical conclusion. Remember, when little shit countries defeat juggernaut empires, it's because they play by their rules ❤ If there is profit in PoW mining, then the one who is best at bots will make the most profit. It is still centralization. Sorry you can't win this argument. I thought it about it deeply. It is an inviolable and unarguable point. The bots will be free-ranging and adaptable, or are you forgetting what you taught me about the information age? I never taught you that humans will be less creative than bots nor that those with less resources will win that competitive race. Dude, humans would be the ones adapting the bots the same way designer drug makers keep redesigning their wares every time the drug rules change--that is until AI exist. And those with less resources can win if they use better or unusual tactics--see history book. |
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I could counter that a continual release of bots could create a self-replicating virus used to secure a coin's decentralization--think of it as Delueze's idea of capitalism as parasite taken to its logical conclusion. Remember, when little shit countries defeat juggernaut empires, it's because they play by their rules ❤ If there is profit in PoW mining, then the one who is best at bots will make the most profit. It is still centralization. Sorry you can't win this argument. I thought it about it deeply. It is an inviolable and unarguable point. The bots will be free-ranging and adaptable, or are you forgetting what you taught me about the information age? |
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I could counter that a continual release of bots could create a self-replicating virus used to secure a coin's decentralization--think of it as Delueze's idea of capitalism as parasite taken to its logical conclusion. Remember, when little shit countries defeat juggernaut empires, it's because they play by their rules ❤ |
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pre mine is a big no, but i don't care if it is POS or anything else as long as it can survive and its price goes up.
And if there is a premined coin with 1 millions users and growing faster than Bitcoin, then you are just going to let the train leave the station with you left behind because of your irrational bias? Do you really think you can fork an inertia like that. Could this bias be what prevents the very scenario you are talking about? I'm fairly certain there is a psychological term for it, but don't feel like looking it up when the example is right here. I don't think so because speculators are followers not leaders. Adoption can lead speculation, not vice versa. This assumes that everyone who is speculating is only thinking as (or for) speculators in their equation, some, if not most, might be using their own metrics for use to determine what to invest in--not a "what would someone else use" mindset, but a "what would I use" mindset. It is possible for people to be both user and speculator and simultaneously spur adoption and speculation. But I don't think speculators make wise decisions as to how to invest for adoption, because they are not close enough to the technology and marketing. The creators are the leaders. That is why I have often said that I don't think open source can create/tap a new market. I intend to prove that and say, "I told you so" to smooth, rpietila, and all the Monero crowd. Open source is a refinement and shared investment in quality assurance mechanism, not a creative one. My guess is you are talking about a coin that is premined, but doesn't suffer from the centralization of power that we've been raised to believe in the crypto universe is the enemy of all that is decentralized and good, correct? So now, if you invent it and that's the model you chose, you will have to convince early adopters that what they've been led to believe by everyone relevant in the community is not true for your coin, which is the exception to this "rule". I hope you see the chalenge you are building for yourself-- the early adopters are the ones who determine which turn the speculators take in the maze. This, usually along with shoddy tech, is why premined coins can't get enough traction. You can educate, but ignoring the problem will only get you a bunch of stubborn speculators who can't see the limitations of their greed. this sounds like you're saying mining doesn't lead to centralization which is complteely untrue. If centralization is your concern then you might as well go with a premine. I'm saying mining centralization is one of the problems that may be solved (I didn't actually touch on the subject), but a premine is guaranteeing centralization (at least with the current crop of coins), BUT what I'm really pointing out is that anyone who wants to launch a coin with a premine will have to overcome this obstacle/bias--even if their coin has solved the problem. |
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