 See your way-back machine is working. So what coin are you working on now? I'm working on CK, and it's pretty awesome.
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I'm not playing fact finding missions with you--i have better things to do, but any pm's are too many. I told people to collect on steemit (not invest), and take the free money (show me how that is terrible advice?), but as far as playing devil's advocate to your assumptions about its failure or success, get over it, dude--you still can't claim it's a failure anymore than i can claim it's a success.
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Dude, your use of an oak that never reaches the moon (stars, whatever) precludes my interpretation of your metaphor as a computer tree, unless you think no coin can get into orbit--in which case, "Why are you here, dude?"
PS: I'm better at language than you are at math. Deal with it. I should be better than this, but you keep poking the bear. I was more than happy to leave it alone, but you kept sending stuff to my PM and got my attention. Was perfectly happy to play a video game and let your dim appraisals go unabashed, but you claim my tepid vouching of steem is proof of my inability to look at systems, so...you got a fight...my guess is you owe me copyright infringement dues for the use of inkblot logic (or are you claiming you created that term? You're certainly using it enough).
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Those models worked (BTC, XMR) and are working
Define "working". I see them as dismal failures both technologically and (mass) marketing wise. Working as in they are still being developed and expanded on--but if you are after a one-stage rocket to overtake the current model, sure everything is a failure. They are rotting and decaying. They both reached the pinnacle of their sapling growth spurt and are now locked into their inertial morasses. Saplings grow to oak trees, but oak trees don't grow to the moon. Most saplings don't even grow to oak trees. Each project gets one chance to be a sapling. Each project defines its ultimate potential (the DNA) very early on. You are metaphorically challenged. We are talking modules, not trees. BTC is fine for what it is and XMR is fine for what is. If you have something better, build it, but don't expect it to be more than part of the cc whole. |
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Those models worked (BTC, XMR) and are working
Define "working". I see them as dismal failures both technologically and (mass) marketing wise. Working as in they are still being developed and expanded on--but if you are after a one-stage rocket to overtake the current model, sure everything is a failure. |
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Guys slow down a little holy crap. As soon as I leave a post it gets buried and I must go look for it then read everything again my gosh this thread is very intense and hard to keep up with.
What exactly should I be doing now ? Let me not worth too much about all this other stuff let's take it easy with the learning curbe here. Ok so I know there is am event and I must stay healthy. All I need to know for now is...
When does the event start and end ? How often must I est and what must I eat ? I dont need to understand how eating works or even what I'm eating I just want to know what to buy and how often to eat/consume it. Do I need to have my health points up high the whole direction of the event or just near the end ?
Heya Jason, sorry if it feels like people are ignoring you or spamming you with information; game is currently in an extremely hectic phase, as we're about to evolve into so-called Clans, which we've been eagerly waiting for almost half-a-year. Basically instead of single characters "houses" will function together. That's why people are posting so much so fast, they're not intentionally trying to ignore or textwall you. Sorry if you've felt that way. I'm responsible for our Wiki, and I've been having a project to fulfill the empty spots of it especially regarding the new players' guide, so I might as well do it now. If you could, please post me your character ID and I'll check out what you're currently playing with, what you've done so far, and I'll write you (and others) a comprehensive guide - rememember though! these are always speculative and there's no de facto correct way to play - everything is tied to XMR and big shifts in CK markets, so there's no "correct" answer. But I'll give you (and others) my best 5 cents  Can you PM me here in BCT your most burning questions as well as some info about what your aims possibly are and what you have so far thought? Again, you just stepped into a buzzing bee nest with huge changes in-game, and I can relate to frustration of how people go "go to <link>" or "and read also <link>" where things don't seem to connect and the information wave is vast. And some of it is outdated, as the game is evolving faster than people can document it in a newbie-friendly way. Believe me, I was there 1 year ago  Also, coming to IRC has usually been very beneficial to new players. We're at ##crypto-kingdom at the server freenode, you could use e.g. http://webchat.freenode.net/Usually most conversations take place 11 AM - 11 PM UTC, but this varies _a lot_. Don't be discouraged if you don't get a response within 10 mins or so, it really depends if we're at that particular minute there. Usually the threshold for little and seemingly mundane questions is much lower there, as here people usually tend to post only long well-structured semi-essays (or well, not always...) Cheers, hope to catch you in IRC and in PM, Syksy The links I got for the health challenge were to posts in this forum from long ago and the guides and they really long and not exactly noon friendly but none the less I will read through them later. I just scanned through them for now. My chsrwcotr is Zarth ID 593 Thank you I will PM you Amy questions I have. If you're looking for an introduction into the Clans module as far as expected costs, scale back the totals from here to 1/200 as each npcc equals 200 npc: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tgIzgMza7NQsTpMO9pHke1ZVXYH7l5Sj5bHdZHItivo/edit?usp=sharing. I do have a cheat sheet I made of where each M spent equaled a point--that was critical--but it's probably going to be outdated with the new expansion rules, so it's interesting only from a future model of cost analysis perspective, and probably not useful for actual data. Though historical pricing may interest some. I can post it, but unless someone asks for the info, I'll probably think it a vain effort rather than a useful tool for players. |
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Those models worked (BTC, XMR) and are working, so your estimate based on typical wall street derived structures misses my point entirely. Think of your coin as a module, and if it's successful and resilient, it pools the next group of contenders. [skip]
Saw edit 2, have you looked at CK's design? Barring any strange hybrid ruling on game laws, does it stand a chance, not arguing about landing spot--Faulkner had these wise, and enigmatic as hell (he's oddly buried by a grave marked ET, yes, weird shit) words, "Mr. Khrushchev says that Communism, the police state, will bury the free ones. He is a smart gentleman, he knows that this is nonsense since freedom, man's dim concept of and belief in the human spirit is the cause of all his troubles in his own country. But if he means that Communism will bury capitalism, he is correct. That funeral will occur about ten minutes after the police bury gambling. Because simple man, the human race, will bury both of them. That will be when we have expended the last grain, dram, and iota of our natural resources. But man himself will not be in that grave. The last sound on the worthless earth will be two human beings trying to launch a homemade spaceship and already quarreling about where they are going next."
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Shelby, if you look at BTC and XMR as modules for how to launch and implement a coin, then you are on the right page--this is how opensource works : stages.
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For players unfamiliar with CLI, whenever you type help followed by enter, you get a list of available commands. Consume is the one we will focus on today. So just as in the real world, you need to eat, drink, and in the case of CK, get your WISdom on, so to do this you enter:
consume can 25
That's it, you just consumed some CAN and gained some WIS.
*25 is used as an example, it can be higher, or lower, but the limit at the moment is 200. Tomorrow's lesson will be how to buy and give or win it...we'll see
Give command lets you give things. So to use it we type give m 100 lotraffle Hit enter and you've given Lotraffle 100 m So in this command GIVE is the action, m is the ITEM, the number 100 is how many of the item that you wish to give, and the "lotraffle" in the command is the player to receive the item--in this case lotraffle--who handles most of the freebies. What's nice about the counter-intuitive order of the command, in English sentence structure you tend to hear, "here's a hundred bucks," or "this Bugatti..." the main thing is that this command intricacy acts as a simple don't-ski-down-the-mountain-drunk control. |
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Which my paper states very clearly, that is only true because you assume that transaction volume won't be significant enough such that transaction fees do not approach the minted block reward. You assume Monero will never handle any where near the world's volume of transactions and/or that the market cap will rise sufficiently such that the tiny perpetual minted block reward is greater than the transaction-related costs (but given the horrendous O(n2) scaling problem of Satoshi's design, then this assumption also isn't likely true at VISA scale).
But that doesn't help because as my paper states very clearly, proof-of-work remains a winner-take-all any way. Thus Monero's perpetual minted block reward does nothing to solve the problem.
The inevitable mining cartel (presuming Monero becomes economically relevant) will dictate transaction fees in Monero as well, and also control the mining and all the bad impacts (censorship, deanonymization, etc) that come with it.
Sorry. Better luck next time.
I make no such assumptions. What you are assuming, incorrectly I must add, is a fixed per KB transaction fee in Monero regardless of blocksize or market cap. This assumption is fundamentally incorrect as I have explained before because of the adaptive blocksize limit and penalty function ensure that over time the total fees paid per block remain in a constant range when compared to the block reward. Increase the blocksize in Monero by a factor of 100x and the fees per KB drop by a factor of 100x. ArticMine here you are again posting your inkblots. Slow down and try to understand your mistakes. Go take some quiet time and think for a while before you respond, so you don't fill up thread with useless noise. I am saying that is as the "transaction-related costs" approach the minted block reward, then the Tragedy of the Commons in transaction fees results. This has nothing to do with a fixed per KB transaction fee, but rather the costs of actually processing the transactions. You have to factor in that costs include the fact in proof-of-work mining, that a 0.1% hashrate miner must propagate and validate 100% of the systemic transaction volume (yet he is only paid 0.1% portion of the total systemic rewards, and probably even paid less because of selfish mining and asymmetric propagation costs due to mining on the wrong chain part of time). And any way, the entire discussion is irrelevant, because regardless, the economies-of-scale in proof-of-work dictate that it is a winner-take-all power vacuum. So you are just wasting your time any way arguing about the transaction fee aspect. The inevitable mining cartel (presuming Monero becomes economically relevant) will dictate transaction fees in Monero as well, and also control the mining and all the bad impacts (censorship, deanonymization, etc) that come with it. Sorry. Better luck next time. No. Dude, this goes back to what I was saying about decentralized power structures, they feed multiple pools of resources, so the more payment gateways you add the more decentralization you have--if you run around chasing oil fields, of course you are going to get train costs plus land cost plus whatever, but if your aim is towards the stars, you must create multiple points of entry, re-entry, pull, push, whatever....my point is that if you land the thing to friendly miners in a control spasm of leaked resources, of course you get a parasite that can barely get airborne--the lust for power works as a virtual control mechanism through the will for control and anarchy--these are fail safes built into the natural order of Earth--they don't necessarily apply to space, which in our limited terms is infinite--so infinity negates limited resource arguments as I can at least fathom self-replicating drone farms that intertwine and create new outposts as they scour the universe for not-so-rare minerals that remain in abundance. The Egyptians kept pointing us out of the fertile crescent and towards the sun god--that's why he remains a part of myth and religion. What's weird is that I sucked at puzzle's growing up, but I was always good at drawing them. TLDR : a way to counteract electrical mining cartels is to increase distribution field and to create software designed to disrupt centralizing. phones # + software # + entry/exit points # = scale of decentralization Focusing on power constraints misses the point. |
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You're missing that setting the goal creates a net effect, it's no longer karate or boxing, it's mma. We aim for a perfection and achieve various degrees of success based on preferred taste--sooner or later, you will get there, or not, but all your negative energy helps  You are the one with the negative erroneous phrase "of course" in that context. Keep trying to shoot me down with nary a veil concealing your envy to save your pathetic Moanuro and Crypo Kongdung good ole boys club of robber goats and baronistas. Keep trying in vain. TheFascistMind = iamnotback. The following is a rebuttal to you, rpietila, and r0ach which I wrote presciently wrote 2 years in advance, knowing that one day you'd need to read this: One last attempt to explain how I see that the rich buys club is incongruent with the future. I could summarize all my posts in this thread with the following outcome in the movie Braveheart: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdlL65LD6I4You really should watch that and see the unexpected SWAN impale the rich boys British at the end. Sorry that is just a constant size reduction and it doesn't solve the fundamental problem that ring-signatures can't be pruned, except by some other restrictions such as an expiry on coins. We start with swans, then it gets interesting, and hard.
There IS an obliterating black swan (i.e. Taleb's unexpected long-tail statistic event) they don't see, whilst they be doing busy-bee grunt work of fixing databases for a broken design, making a gui, etc.. I am also a business angel, funding people's things ever since 2004.
And this produced how many million user products? I have produced (one as a co-developer) three separate "million user" level products since 1980s. With a lot of goofing off vacation time in between (mea culpa). I am fine if you don't want to come to my castle but that is the necessary condition if you want to deal with me.
I suppose this was directed to me as well as any others who aspire. This is analogous to the inefficiency of saying that anyone who wants to buy french fries needs to travel to Belgium. Those who are truly capable don't need any money. There will be too much money trying to be rammed down their throat. Money is the weak thing to hold. Knowledge is strength. My suggestion to you was to be more friendly and spread an insignificant (for you) investments around on all promising endeavors in order to be respected for your 1% instead of resented by the community. Also to give yourself more chance on not missing the swan boat when it comes. Your "Rpietila's Altcoin" thread instead of being a jovial and spirited discussion of exciting developments, should be renamed "Rpietila's Monero Membership Club". I am not upset about it, I am just relaying to you how it appears to others who are not brainwashed by "Monero is the answer". You've already been friendly to me and you even gifted me 2 BTC. There is no problem between you and I. I am writing to gift you feedback, because in my analysis you are in the process of committing a fail and possibly a mega-fail. Expecting busy hackers to go through personal interviews with you is I am sorry to tell from the perspective of a hacker insulting. I am not insulted, but I am telling you what sort of actions and attitude breed animosity. We build our reputations by our code, not our talking. "Talk is cheap, show me the code"— Linus Torvalds "Those who can't build, talk"— Eric Raymond Your stance is fundamentally incongruent with the open source movement. Open source projects will spawn more and more granularly (smaller teams) and stored capital and top-down organization will become more and more irrelevant. This is a virtual new economy; we only need to click a button to make an investment. We don't need to travel across the world. And we don't need to invest everything in one thing or two things, thus we don't need to know all the answers before the questions can even be asked. Creativity spawns serendipitously not as planned (even my own work lately proves this is true, because I didn't plan all the ideas I discovered along the way). Open source is the odds of large numbers. "Given enough eye balls, all bugs are shallow"— Eric Raymond paraphrasing Linus Torvalds "Given enough experiments, all possibilities are achievable"— Shelby Moore III paraphrasing Eric Raymond paraphrasing Linus Torvalds Eric Raymond noted that is the only known positive-scaling law in software engineering, i.e. that efficiency improves the more autonomous N actors involved. Design by top-down grouping or committee is not the same scaling law. We don't have time to waste on top-down bureaucracy. Warren Buffett doesn't do angel investing, because he wants to evaluate companies based on well established metrics. Angel investing is a game of more risky probabilities. Thus efficiency of scattershot is more important. Angel investing will become less and less like an exhaustive evaluation and more and more spontaneous and small, e.g. KickStarter. Everyone gives a little bit, not one big whale slowing everything down. The Knowledge Age is the end of the road for large stored capital. The power-law distribution of wealth will shift to stored knowledge. Actionable knowledge will be power-law distributed. It already is. Which is why when you are searching for a needle in a haystack, don't tell the needle to jump to your castle. P.S. I do want to have friendships and vacation in nice resorts such as castles. But that is vacation time. I can't mix business with vacation, it doesn't work. When I am coding, I need to be where ever I already am where I can code now, not tomorrow, not after a conversation, not after a glass of wine, not after ... Procrastination is the bane of software development. My best work has come when I didn't have material comforts. I have not taken a shower in 2 months. I haven't washed my clothes, they are stink like a pig pen. I have not been outside of my room nor seen the sunshine except to restock on food. Time is of the essence.
It doesn't matter if Paypal accepts Bitcoin because users who are not investors (e.g. especially females and the billions of impoverished) have no incentive to convert from their unit-of-account (dollars) to BTC just to pay for something. They might as well just fund their Paypal transactions with their credit card or bank account. Bitcoin will not become the unit-of-account without the blessing of the government, because it has no distribution scale.
Most of the impoverished don't have a credit card nor bank account. The Paypal plan. The reason Paypal couldn't just issue everyone in the developing world an account is because of jealousy thus legal and political risk. Governments would resist take over of their financial control by an overtly fascist corporation. Peter Thiel et al are more clever. Issue everyone a supranational digital account that is "decentralized and controlled by no one", when in fact it is centralized and controlled by the fascist powers-that-be. Use this to force other countries into submission when they attempt to offer their own top-down centralized digital currencies, e.g. Ecuador. The people are trapped either way in a fully traceable block chain and NWO Technocracy. Monero (portmanteau of money+dying euro?) offers no hope of scaling to avert this rapidly developing fascist outcome. C'est la vie. Fait accompli. And the competing and equally devastating Apple Plan. Any other ideas of how to scale a crypto-currency to beyond 10 million users within 3 years or less from launch?
Build it into a game that becomes a massive hit. Note 'game' has a wider scope of context than what you might be thinking. For example, life is game. Oh, poor little him!
Continue your fantasies please. Sometimes I think out-of-the-box. I don't claim to be a genius. I have a reasonably high IQ (probably not as high as aminorex on standardized tests) and some different approaches. Linus Torvalds probably doesn't have as high an IQ as Eric Raymond (clearly evident by reading their respective blogs), but Linus has a skill set of being able to contain the complexity of large projects which Eric may not possess (Eric wrote this). This is embarrassing for me and the best way for me to depersonalize this discussion is for me to stop speaking. Because I have very strong opinions. Sorry for rocking the boat. I guess I don't know how to not speak my mind. Edit: I had sent PMs twice to Hal telling about the treatments I am trying, because my autoimmunity and his ALS may share the autoimmunity issue. I don't know if he ever read them, and I may have been too late. Perhaps a quote from him is apropos. http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2f1ijk/hal_finney_was_bitcoins_first_follower_when_you/"When you find a lone nut doing something great, have the guts to be the first person to stand up and join in." Watch the video! If you emphasis on reading comprehension, the actual questions was how many processor cores is need to verify the incoming transactions + the mined block?
Since you asked, I just looked in the log file on a 4-year old Xeon server I'm using as a node. It takes approximately 0.14 seconds from the time a new transaction arrives until the time it is relayed. I believe most if not all of this processing is single threaded, which suggests approximately 7 transactions per second per core on a 4-year old CPU. On the order-of-magnitude of 20 txs/sec per core on a late model CPU, i.e. an order-of-magnitude higher than Bitcoin (<1 tx/s) now per core but two orders-of-magnitude less than Visa (2 - 6K tx/s) now per core, means Monero (Cryptonote) can't scale to any where even close to global Visa scale and remain both decentralized for mining with fast block period (thus fast transactions), not to mention the likely order(s)-of-magnitude more scaling above that to reach ubiquitous global micro transactions and programmable contracts on the block chain. So you would have to solve both this and the blockchain bloat in order to scale to global widespread use. It appears that one-time ring signatures are fundamentally incompatible with scaling. Cryptonote can't encourage too much use with zero transaction fees, because it can't accept the scaling that can come with it. I believe Zerocash has similar scaling issues. DarkCoin (and CoinJoin) has the simultaneity problem that fights scaling because to mix you need someone else who wants to mix with you at the same denominations at the same time (not mention being either theoretically defeated with jamming and/or Sybil attack on masternodes) and to perform this meeting with scaling you need global coherence on submitted txs which means either centralization (synchronicity) or no scaling. Are you really moving my posts into threads that have nothing to do with the quoted material--jeeze, you have way too much free time. You should play CK, you could prove some of your theories on advertising and economy on a micro-transaction scale (IE. twenty bucks and you can be a whale, and if you are right, you can prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt). |
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Sticks and stones may break my bones, but walls of words can't hurt my argument--if you would stick with what offers the best solution and work towards it--instead of away from it--you may end up in the right hemisphere, but then again, your negativity is good for quality control.
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If you look at them on an individual basis, of course none of them passes the decentralized test
The "of course" will be disproven. I understand your point is you think competing altcoins is a form of decentralization. But if all of them are not decentralized, then no matter which one you switch to, then you've still got the same "light bulb" (from your analogy) in control. The wealthy can spread their wealth around to all the important altcoins as well. The problem isn't solved in your conceptualization. Sorry. You're missing that setting the goal creates a net effect, it's no longer karate or boxing, it's mma. We aim for a perfection and achieve various degrees of success based on preferred taste--sooner or later, you will get there, or not, but all your negative energy helps |
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If you look at them on an individual basis, of course none of them passes the decentralized test--this is the equivalent of looking at the stars and thinking it's a sheet with holes in it and there's one 100w bulb to power them all.
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Guys slow down a little holy crap. As soon as I leave a post it gets buried and I must go look for it then read everything again my gosh this thread is very intense and hard to keep up with.
What exactly should I be doing now ? Let me not worth too much about all this other stuff let's take it easy with the learning curbe here. Ok so I know there is am event and I must stay healthy. All I need to know for now is...
When does the event start and end ? How often must I est and what must I eat ? I dont need to understand how eating works or even what I'm eating I just want to know what to buy and how often to eat/consume it. Do I need to have my health points up high the whole direction of the event or just near the end ?
So basic thing is the challenge gives you a rating here: https://cryptokingdom.me/world-topTop ten finishers get a bonus in the stat category/rules here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1207367.msg16942967#msg16942967So consume stuff based on the rules. Since you are new player, you'll have a stat bonus, but you'll have to compete with older players who have bigger stores of high value items. It's a work in progress and the rules change a lot, so there's no quick way to create a wiki as with a typical game, but clans should forge some basic gameplay AFAIK. |
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Michael Jackson is dead. Upgraded styling:  I plan on driving this to work--in the meantime I've got a dragon.  |
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 I'm looking at a diagram of a agar.io bubble with a four point chariot with archers seated on each horse--wonders if the egyptions witnessed a star wars event that interplays with the design of a chariot--well, they did master symbols better than anyone else, so even from an experimental "how do you get to the stars?" --it makes sense to pivot on historical links and decentralized power structures, even if it involves backwards engineering hypothetical alien technologies. So learning symbol placement from music, you learn that art is a good framework to illustrate universal rhizome theory (?) This would coincide with the most adaptable players to quickly reconfigure their gameplay setting from data points--music makes you think faster. Come back to it after a few more cans/coffee_yes (coffee, mum, wis should coincide with log-on time length as a means to micro-fee-generation) University should set-up a quest to unearth mysteries of the Egyptians. The military academy and research departments should be the focus of near term. The world's not that big a place and resource limitations are prime points of war and economic displacement. Anyone who's ever played paper football realizes that once you reach a limitation in adaptability, you just keep renaming the game. Capitalistic mechanisms converge on points along a virtual rhizome, at least if you believe Deluze's model of Capitalism... I think Delueze's major point (though he had a much different context of its value) is that you can only aim virtual economies, but they are tricky to manage, and control--well, good luck--that's why the dragon is being watched over off-world. What are the costs, the benefits, short-term, long-term? Sometimes it's just a gut-feeling and a push from someone you respect. Whatever it is, CK-IO. hmc_ |
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Risto buys over 200,000 XMR. Now he intends to pump n dump again with same tactic. He tells everyone it will rise 1000x (netting him ~350 Million dollars if that were to become true ) Pump and dump again?? Do you really believe Risto caused Bitcoin to go up? Monero? Lot's more people that Risto saw the potential of Bitcoin and Monero (wasn't Gavin Anderson one?) Seems to me he had a view, voiced it and was right about the timing and the direction... twice. If you'd followed his advice on timing and direction you would have done very well. Price targets are known to be harder to calculate, so all in all it has been good advice. Risto...if you are reading this I'd love to know if you ever have another trading idea. I won't blame you if it doesn't work, but I'd love to know. You are welcome to PM me if you like. Me too, I would love a hot tip Risto created a massive bubble in XMR with his incessant pumping which caused many to buy at nosebleed high prices and then XMR dumped down to very low prices for a year. Risto was advising everyone to not sell BTC all the way down from $700ish (while he was selling at the price $1.5 million to buy his castle), while I was saying it would bottom below $300. And then when it went below $300, I said it would bottom at $150. After that, I also made mistake of thinking it might go lower again. Stop idolizing men. Fools. Do your own due diligence. By doing due diligence we will realize that you never placed a bet on any of those things happening--perhaps if you had, you would have made some money and would come across as far less bitter. |
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Mummy powder is freely tradeable and non-perishable cursed wisdom product with the only known effect of the curse being that it does not have a positive Health effect upon consumption.
I'm gonna lose sleep over this... How do you even digest this stuff, don't tell me you snort it?  Maybe you can drink it?  |
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It depends if you are creating a system and how well that system adapts--take the Medici's use of art as symbol creation. Not sure why you conflate the two, but power is given to the symbol that already correlates to a preconceived idealization--it's the artist's job to reconfigured the symbol to either match a current systemic view or to break the mold or to revamp it with new ideas. There are just stars we use for directional pathways as we navigate life and money is the symbolic ocean we swim to get there, or at least off this rock. Your pessimism about us getting to another place has always been palpable, but you've never checked your ego at the door and said, "what if?" EM's aren't supposed to work, but the testing data says otherwise, so are the engineers wrong or the ______'s who forgot to calculate the square root of nothing is the base point of all exploration. Some people can imagine things into existence.
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