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2581  Other / Meta / Re: Sticky the www.spammer guy? on: June 20, 2012, 07:54:26 AM
Kill me now. 

Edit:  Thought this one was interesting...  202.201.253.61   China   Xinjiang   Urumqi   Xin Jiang University

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1.221.78.82    	Korea, Republic Of	Seoul-t'ukpyolsi	Seoul	Boranet
1.230.127.68 Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Sk Broadband Co Ltd
1.234.36.113 Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Sk Broadband Co Ltd
1.234.4.166        Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Sk Broadband Co Ltd
1.234.45.44        Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Sk Broadband Co Ltd
1.234.7.147        Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Sk Broadband Co Ltd
1.249.123.196 Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Sk Broadband Co Ltd
1.252.226.252 Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Sk Broadband Co Ltd
101.66.61.191 China Zhejiang Hangzhou Unicom Zhejiang Province Network
108.62.199.13 United States Arizona Phoenix Nobis Technology Group Llc
108.62.199.136 United States Arizona Phoenix Nobis Technology Group Llc
108.62.199.17     United States Arizona Phoenix Nobis Technology Group Llc
108.62.199.19     United States Arizona Phoenix Nobis Technology Group Llc
108.62.199.20     United States Arizona Phoenix Nobis Technology Group Llc
108.62.199.229   United States Arizona Phoenix Nobis Technology Group Llc
108.62.199.23     United States Arizona Phoenix Nobis Technology Group Llc
108.62.199.230   United States Arizona Phoenix Nobis Technology Group Llc
108.62.199.25     United States Arizona Phoenix Nobis Technology Group Llc
108.62.199.28     United States Arizona Phoenix Nobis Technology Group Llc
108.62.199.31     United States Arizona Phoenix Nobis Technology Group Llc
108.62.199.33     United States Arizona Phoenix Nobis Technology Group Llc
108.62.199.36     United States Arizona Phoenix Nobis Technology Group Llc
108.62.199.38     United States Arizona Phoenix Nobis Technology Group Llc
108.62.199.40     United States Arizona Phoenix Nobis Technology Group Llc
108.62.199.43     United States Arizona Phoenix Nobis Technology Group Llc
108.62.199.44     United States Arizona Phoenix Nobis Technology Group Llc
108.62.199.46     United States Arizona Phoenix Nobis Technology Group Llc
108.62.199.48     United States Arizona Phoenix Nobis Technology Group Llc
112.2.5.11        China           Beijing Beijing China Mobile Communications Corporation
112.216.145.91 Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Lg Dacom Corporation
112.217.232.118 Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Lg Dacom Corporation
112.220.234.195  Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Lg Dacom Corporation
113.21.246.42 Thailand Krung Thep Bangkok Reserve For Tplc
113.97.240.27 China Guangdong Guangzhou Chinanet Guangdong Province Network
114.108.137.73 Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Lg Dacom Kidc
115.207.62.169 China Zhejiang Hangzhou Chinanet-zj Quzhou Node Network
115.68.21.186 Korea, Republic Of - - Smileserv
115.68.59.83       Korea, Republic Of - - Smileserv
116.213.132.18 China Beijing Beijing Cnlink Network Technology Ltd.
117.135.140.11 China Beijing Beijing China Mobile Communications Corporation
117.135.140.39 China Beijing Beijing China Mobile Communications Corporation
117.52.82.63 Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Lg Telecom Kidc
118.216.255.63 Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Hanaro Telecom
118.32.191.162 Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Korea Telecom
118.46.219.200 Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Korea Telecom
119.155.21.57 Pakistan Sindh Karachi Hsi Pool On Karachi Bras
119.30.38.5   Bangladesh Dhaka Dhaka Grameenphone Ltd.
119.30.45.34       Bangladesh Dhaka Dhaka Grameenphone Ltd.
119.30.45.35      Bangladesh Dhaka Dhaka Grameenphone Ltd.
119.30.45.58      Bangladesh Dhaka Dhaka Grameenphone Ltd.
119.68.237.117 Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Lg Powercomm
12.20.60.12       United States New Jersey Whippany Stephen Gould Paper Company Inc.
120.193.52.86 China Beijing Beijing China Mobile Communications Corporation
120.199.224.88   China Beijing Beijing China Mobile Communications Corporation
120.199.228.50    China Beijing Beijing China Mobile Communications Corporation
120.40.134.96 China Beijing Beijing Chinanet Fujian Province Network
120.43.12.157     China Beijing Beijing Chinanet Fujian Province Network
120.43.12.199     China Beijing Beijing Chinanet Fujian Province Network
120.43.19.103     China Beijing Beijing Chinanet Fujian Province Network
121.0.112.199 Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Dotname Korea Corp
121.125.74.76 Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Hanaro Telecom Inc.
121.153.22.11 Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Korea Telecom
121.78.131.214 Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Kinx
122.173.181.204 India West Bengal Calcutta Abts Delhi
123.143.189.98 Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Lg Dacom Corporation
123.153.69.201 China Zhejiang Hangzhou China Unicom Zhejiang Province Network
125.136.130.20 Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Korea Telecom
125.140.193.228 Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Korea Telecom
126.114.231.205 Japan Tokyo Tokyo Japan Nation-wide Network Of Softbank Bb Corp.
126.15.1.93        Japan Tokyo Tokyo Japan Nation-wide Network Of Softbank Bb Corp.
14.145.73.155 China Guangdong Guangzhou Chinanet Guangdong Province Network
165.132.224.15 Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Yonsei
175.210.203.179 Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Korea Telecom
180.149.7.204 Bangladesh Dhaka Dhaka Silver Tower
180.149.7.213     Bangladesh Dhaka Dhaka Silver Tower
180.211.195.127 Bangladesh Dhaka Dhaka Bangladesh Telegraph & Telephone Board
180.234.245.49 Bangladesh Dhaka Dhaka Augere Wireless Broadband Bangladesh Limited
180.246.107.8 Indonesia Jakarta Raya Jakarta Pt Telkom Indonesia
180.67.207.50 Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Hanaro Telecom
180.69.254.158 Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Hanaro Telecom
182.178.204.41 Pakistan Islamabad Islamabad Dslam Infrastructure North
183.2.151.207 China Guangdong Guangzhou Chinanet Guangdong Province Network
184.95.41.7        United States Arizona Tempe Secured Servers Llc
202.201.253.61 China Xinjiang Urumqi Xin Jiang University
203.228.64.162 Korea, Republic Of - - Daejukikong
205.164.3.144 United States Illinois Chicago Egihosting
209.73.144.188 United States California San Jose Basic Networks
210.118.15.190 Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Elimnet Co. Ltd.
210.127.210.5 Korea, Republic Of Kyonggi-do Seongnam Onse Telecom
210.222.130.2 Korea, Republic Of - - Hankuktongsindaekubonbujang
210.56.59.179 Hong Kong Hong Kong (sar) Hong Kong Sun Network (hong Kong) Limited
211.118.151.252 Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Dacom Corp.
211.154.133.174 China Guangdong Guangzhou China Motion Network Communication
211.175.36.125 Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Bakju Bc
211.195.108.240 Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Kimhyungjun
211.196.157.24 Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Korea Telecom
211.238.108.115 Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Krnic
211.36.8.130 Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Elimnet Co. Ltd.
216.172.158.11 United States California San Jose Lingwang Internet
216.172.158.13   United States California San Jose Lingwang Internet
218.108.89.46 China Zhejiang Hangzhou Biteruanjian
218.200.212.197 China Sichuan Chengdu China Mobile Communications Corporation - Sichuan
218.206.45.243   China Sichuan Chengdu China Mobile Communications Corporation - Sichuan
218.201.241.251 China Guizhou Guiyang China Mobile Communications Corporation - Guizhou
218.203.211.34 China Gansu Lanzhou China Mobile Communications Corporation - Gansu
218.204.135.206 China Gansu Jiangxi China Mobile Communications Corporation - Jiangxi
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218.206.45.243   China Henan Zhengzhou China Mobile Communications Corporation - Henan
218.23.145.60 China Beijing Beijing Chinanet Anhui Province Network
218.232.109.227 Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Hanaro Telecom Inc.
218.234.17.238   Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Hanaro Telecom Inc.
218.38.13.37 Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Hanaro Telecom Inc.
220.161.103.75 China Beijing Beijing Chinanet Fujian Province Network
220.161.98.168   China Beijing Beijing Chinanet Fujian Province Network
220.71.120.215 Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Krnic
220.76.56.125 Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Hyunseongku
220.90.206.11 Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Korea Telecom
220.94.105.71 Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Korea Telecom
221.143.48.71 Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Hanaro Telecom Inc.
221.145.226.7 Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Sungmo Hospital
221.176.168.29 China Beijing Beijing China Mobile Communications Corporation
221.176.189.22   China Beijing Beijing China Mobile Communications Corporation
222.100.14.247 Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Korea Telecom
222.122.47.254    Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Korea Telecom
27.159.234.63 China Fujian Fuzhou Chinanet Fujian Province Networ
50.117.117.23 United States California San Jose Serveryou.com - Tianming
50.117.117.25     United States California San Jose Serveryou.com - Tianming
50.117.117.45     United States California San Jose Serveryou.com - Tianming
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50.117.127.172   United States California San Jose Serveryou.com - B. Huang Vpn
50.117.127.173   United States California San Jose Serveryou.com - B. Huang Vpn
58.187.95.122 Viet Nam Dac Lac Ha Noi Fpt Telecom Company
58.49.57.98 China Beijing Beijing Chinanet Hubei Province Network
58.8.151.70 Thailand Krung Thep Bangkok True Internet Co. Ltd.
58.97.209.175 Bangladesh Dhaka Dhaka Silver Tower
58.97.226.21 Bangladesh Rajshahi Rajshahi Silver Tower
59.174.46.17 China Beijing Beijing Chinanet Hubei Province Network
58.49.57.98 China Beijing Beijing Chinanet Hubei Province Network
58.8.151.70         Thailand Krung Thep Bangkok True Internet Co. Ltd.
58.97.209.175 Bangladesh Dhaka Dhaka Silver Tower
58.97.226.21 Bangladesh Rajshahi Rajshahi Silver Tower
59.174.46.17 China Beijing Beijing Chinanet Hubei Province Network
59.58.148.9        China Beijing Beijing Chinanet Fujian Province Network
59.58.151.34      China Beijing Beijing Chinanet Fujian Province Network
59.58.155.251 China Beijing Beijing Chinanet Fujian Province Network
59.60.122.120 China Beijing Beijing Chinanet Fujian Province Network
59.60.125.171 China Beijing Beijing Chinanet Fujian Province Network
59.60.127.171 China Beijing Beijing Chinanet Fujian Province Network
60.196.35.188 Korea, Republic Of Seoul-t'ukpyolsi Seoul Dacom Internet Service Provider Seoul Korea
61.235.87.236 China Guangdong Guangzhou China Railcom Guangdong Shantou Subbranch
66.79.161.239 United States California Redwood City Dcs Pacific Star Llc
66.79.161.245 United States California Redwood City Dcs Pacific Star Llc
67.60.233.57 United States Iowa Sioux City Cable One Inc.
69.195.157.41 United States Missouri Kansas City Joe's Datacenter Llc
69.195.157.44 United States Missouri Kansas City Joe's Datacenter Llc
69.195.157.45 United States Missouri Kansas City Joe's Datacenter Llc
69.195.157.53 United States Missouri Kansas City Joe's Datacenter Llc
69.22.174.157 United States California Sacramento Giglinx Inc.
69.46.82.226 United States California Fremont Chinavoipnow
70.154.161.78 United States Florida Jacksonville Bellsouth.net Inc.
70.89.136.52 United States Washington Tacoma Pease And Sons
96.226.119.132 United States Texas Carrollton Partnership Broadband
2582  Other / Meta / Re: Sticky the www.spammer guy? on: June 20, 2012, 07:20:03 AM
I'm almost tempted to write a script to parse the post report emails and then auto-nuke these guys...  Undecided

I seriously feel bad that you have to waste your time with these fools.
2583  Other / Meta / Sticky the www.spammer guy? on: June 20, 2012, 07:06:47 AM
I'm not sure if this is really worth it because he often gets banned so quickly, but would it be worth placing a sticky in the newbie section to warn them about the www.spammer guy?  I've seen some newbies ask in the past if he was legitimate, and maybe it would be useful to create a sticky to warn others about him.  While this sticky may be a waste of space right now, we could add all future spam aliases/websites to the list if he or others try to get more creative.  He's already trying to get more creative by spamming in others' threads rather than making his own.
2584  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What will happen when the 21M bitcoin will be minned on: June 20, 2012, 06:41:32 AM
The block reward continually halves; we will asymptotically reach the theoretical limit of 21 million. So yeah, you'll probably be dead...

What happens if the BFL asic is real and an extra 10000TB/S is added in minining
The difficulty will go up to match the new speed and keep block production steady. And there is no need to worry that we will run out of difficulty levels; they can go to a hugely high number to match whatever new technologies can throw at it.

Rjk's got it.  When all the ASIC devices start reaching consumers (whether its from BFL or some other competitor) then the difficulty will rise accordingly.  At worst, the jump from 25 BTC to 12.5 BTC will come a few months sooner than originally expected.  It is likely that when ASICs start reaching consumers, we will see a few weeks where the time it takes the network to solve 2016 blocks (i.e. the # of blocks needed for a difficulty readjustment) will be shortened to a span of a few days rather than an average of 2 weeks.  But, once the majority of ASIC purchasers have received their devices, then we will be back to the 2 week average.

To make this assumption come true, you would have to significantly increase the computing power over several retargets. My bet is ASICs will not accelerate the whole progress of getting to 25BTC block reward at all as they will not be available before that. Definitively not in an amount to compete with existing hashing power.

To have the jump "a few months sooner", you would have to have a constant increase of hashing power of 100% per retarget for two "few months".
Doubling network speed per retarget/week would take 2 few months to arrive few months early. As two months is the minimum to qualify for "few months", "two few months" would be more than 16 weeks. 16 weeks of doubleing would end at about 655PH/s. Hmm … I wanna see that Smiley


A single T/H added to the network at the current moment would decrease time it takes to reach the next difficulty adjustment by more than a full day.  A full week would require a doubling of the network hash rate (~24-26 T/Hash).  A full month would require ~175-225 T/Hash.  This is easily forseeable.  

Let's say that the average miner has an output of about 5 g/hash.  If you take an average network hashrate of 13 t/hash, and divide that by 5 g/hash, you're looking at about 2600 miners.

Now, let's assume the average cost of a 5 g/hash mining setup is $4000.  In terms of ASICs, $4000 will get you approximately 120 g/hash (you can buy 3 of BFL's $1300 40/ghash models).

Now, multiply 120 g/hash (or .12 t/hash) by 2600.  You get 312 T/Hash.  And there you have it, the time it takes to reach the 12.5 BTC is decreased by more than a month.

Then, take into account all the new miners that will enter the picture in the next 4 years.  If the number of miners has reached ~2600 in the past 4 years (actually, it's been less than 4 years, and miners didn't REALLY start to enter the picture until the first quarter of last year), then it's reasonable to assume that the number of miners will at least double, if not triple, quadruple, or even more.

Let's say we have 4 times the number of miners by the year 2016 (2600 x 4 = 10,400), then we're looking at ~1.245 P/H.  Then, also take into account the declining cost of ASIC units over time, and this number could increase even more.

I think it's quite reasonable to assume the jump to the 12.5 BTC reward will occur at least 2 months earlier than anticipated.

Edit:  BTW, I think you meant 8 weeks = 2 months, and not 16 weeks = 2 months.
2585  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: So I guess MtGox isn't even trying anymore ... on: June 20, 2012, 03:35:37 AM
Is Mt. Gox hiring any customer services reps?  I could use a part-time job atm and I'd love to be able to tell people what is really going on.

Edit:  Post #2016.  Henceforth, my difficulty will increase.
2586  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What will happen when the 21M bitcoin will be minned on: June 20, 2012, 03:27:52 AM
The block reward continually halves; we will asymptotically reach the theoretical limit of 21 million. So yeah, you'll probably be dead...

What happens if the BFL asic is real and an extra 10000TB/S is added in minining
The difficulty will go up to match the new speed and keep block production steady. And there is no need to worry that we will run out of difficulty levels; they can go to a hugely high number to match whatever new technologies can throw at it.

Rjk's got it.  When all the ASIC devices start reaching consumers (whether its from BFL or some other competitor) then the difficulty will rise accordingly.  At worst, the jump from 25 BTC to 12.5 BTC will come a few months sooner than originally expected.  It is likely that when ASICs start reaching consumers, we will see a few weeks where the time it takes the network to solve 2016 blocks (i.e. the # of blocks needed for a difficulty readjustment) will be shortened to a span of a few days rather than an average of 2 weeks.  But, once the majority of ASIC purchasers have received their devices, then we will be back to the 2 week average.
2587  Other / Off-topic / Re: Hey Rugatu, WTF?! on: June 20, 2012, 01:17:21 AM
To clarify in the other thread about me "threatening them,"  I will publicly post our exchange of PMs:

Me:
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http://www.rugatu.com/users/16/edgar_t/reputation/

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paraipan voted up edgar_t answer on [closed] Hitler reacts to the bitcoinica hack?

edgar_t voted down georgeBTC answer on [closed] How much is Rugatu worth? Best explanation of valuation gets it.

edgar_t voted down Caffeinewriter answer on [closed] How much is Rugatu worth? Best explanation of valuation gets it.

edgar_t voted down gweedo answer on [closed] How much is Rugatu worth? Best explanation of valuation gets it.

edgar_t voted down your answer on [closed] How much is Rugatu worth? Best explanation of valuation gets it.

UserSupport voted up edgar_t question [closed] Will this run Minecraft with no lag?

UserSupport voted up edgar_t answer on [closed] Who is the best singer of all time?

UserSupport voted up edgar_t question [closed] IPod touch screen goes dark?

UserSupport voted up edgar_t question [closed] Is there a Bitcoin gateway for PrestaShop with these specific features?

UserSupport voted up edgar_t question [closed] What is the meaning of the word "nsfw" ?

Rugatu:
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Thanks for reporting this issue

Me:
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Ok, great, now suspend these:

http://www.rugatu.com/users/13/llukasz/reputation/
http://www.rugatu.com/users/6/lukasz/reputation/
http://www.rugatu.com/users/5/cscoxx/reputation/
http://www.rugatu.com/users/61/2isaf7fl0/reputation/
http://www.rugatu.com/users/147/paraipan/reputation/

AND, most importantly, suspend User Support.

Honestly, do you think we're that fucking stupid?  Everybody working at Rugatu including yourself knows exactly what is going on.  You're a bunch of scamming fucks, and everyone is going to know about this.  I can be quite diligent when I want to be.  

Rugatu:
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I don't understand what do you want exactly the joint. Care to explain ?

Me:
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I think User Support and paraipan and Diana S (at the very least) should receive suspensions.  It's blatantly obvious that virtually all, if not absolutely all, Rugatu moderators are manipulating questions by 1) voting-up each other's responses and 2) down-voting non-moderator responses, and there have other complaints that 3) moderators are altering peoples' questions and/or responses.

Cut the shit.  You will never gain traction by screwing your userbase.  Suspend User Support, paraipan, and Diana S (at minimum, if not all the others) and I will be satisfied at least until the manipulation becomes obvious once again.  If not, I'll continue to expose every bullshit manipulation tactic and make sure that absolutely everybody on this forum hears about it.

Your call.

Rugatu:
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Ok, let's take this into smaller parts.

You we're there the first day ? If yes, i guess you know we had rugatu in start-up mode, users get awarded more karma for everything they do and supposedly has to help start a new community. Obviously was a mistake, and i will make sure to pass that on to the OSQA developers.

Second. Why paraipan ? Or DianaS ? UserSupport can't be suspended because it's the main administration account.

Third. You know that every modification gets shown to any user right ? Higher rep users get to see the revisions too, just like a wiki.

I'm not aware of more manipulations or influencing that you or other users reported, so the bunch of people who where there first got to vote or post anything they wanted between themselves until more people got to join.

Your call.

Me:
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Wrong response.  Have it your way.  You do realize that Rugatu is already listed on the Bitcoin shit-list (which I had nothing to do with).  You are one of the worst fucking businessmen I've ever encountered.

Watch your site crash and burn from your own incompetency.

Rugatu:
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That really sounds like a threat. I already explained what the reason for some users having high karma.

http://meta.osqa.net/questions/98/what-does-bootstrap-mode-mean

Inexperienced users where called to help us out with the launch and they got the reputation levels you saw. If you don't get it do yourself a favor and document this before making accusations.

Take care,
Rugatu

Me:
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No, it is not I who is threatening you.  As such, that is why I have labeled "suspects" in the linked-thread I gave to you and left it up for the community to decide.  I'm saying that you are threatening your own business by not coming clean.  User Support is the largest instigator of all of this because User Support is among those involved in the up-voting of Rugatu moderators.  Did you not see the "documentation" of all of User Support's up-voting of edgar_t who you yourself admitted was among those affiliated with Rugatu?

How about this:  Would you apologize to the community for User Support's actions of up-voting members affiliated with Rugatu (hence manipulation) and we'll call it a day?  And then please don't do it again.

Rugatu:
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Yes, first to you, for making you doubt me and my team, and to the community, to set things straight.

We had UserSupport used wrongly by our team members. I can vouch for them voting and posting without discriminating between users or other team members. No harm was intended but it seems like it wasn't the best decision letting them use the account. That user is very powerful and it can't be used like that. One thing we learned, word.

If you ever start a community like this, based on osqa code, do not use the bootstrap mode, ever. We learned that the hard way.

We will post in our thread on the issue.

Take care,
Rugatu

Me:
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A fantastic response.  Thank you.  Apology accepted.  Believe me, I want to see as many Bitcoin businesses to succeed as possible.  Good luck with your endeavors.

-The Joint

I'm satisfied.
2588  Economy / Lending / Re: 1-10 mil usd BTC loan request on: June 19, 2012, 08:55:13 PM
Just wait till they legalize pot.  All your hopes, dreams goals...poof!


They'll be a market for better pot...... not government certified reefer...

Or everyone would just grow their own and wouldn't need to buy any.
2589  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Rugatu Q&A community on: June 19, 2012, 08:52:27 PM
For those of you who aren't caught up to speed yet, I provided evidence to Rugatu that one of their moderators, edgar_t, was manipulating questions unfairly.  Rugatu subsequently suspended edgar_t.  Now, I'd like Rugatu to respond to these:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=88431.msg975376#msg975376

My question is as follows:  Don't you think that some of these users should be suspended as well (the one's that work for Rugatu), especially User Support and paraipan?
2590  Economy / Lending / Re: 1-10 mil usd BTC loan request on: June 19, 2012, 08:20:06 PM
Just wait till they legalize pot.  All your hopes, dreams goals...poof!
Speak for yourself!   Smiley  hehe

I don't smoke pot.  Surprised?
2591  Other / Off-topic / Re: Hey Rugatu, WTF?! on: June 19, 2012, 07:57:01 PM
Edit:  Compiling list of suspects...this will be updated


List of suspects:
http://www.rugatu.com/users/13/llukasz/reputation/
http://www.rugatu.com/users/6/lukasz/reputation/
http://www.rugatu.com/users/5/cscoxx/reputation/
http://www.rugatu.com/users/61/2isaf7fl0/reputation/
http://www.rugatu.com/users/147/paraipan/reputation/

http://www.rugatu.com/users/18/tuxie/reputation/
http://www.rugatu.com/users/110/luceo/reputation/
http://www.rugatu.com/users/15/dianas/reputation/  <--- This one is obvious
http://www.rugatu.com/users/1/usersupport/reputation/ <-- Hey look, it's User Support
http://www.rugatu.com/users/39/teknomunk/reputation/



Interesting battle here between Derisivemetaphor and Sean B:  They each gave each other like 4 down-votes in a row
http://www.rugatu.com/users/44/seanb/reputation/
http://www.rugatu.com/users/101/derisivemetaphor

I'll check for more interesting patterns later.  Is any of this conclusive?  I don't know.  Check for yourself.
2592  Other / Off-topic / Re: Hey Rugatu, WTF?! on: June 19, 2012, 07:45:46 PM
Just by the sheer spamming of these forums I was not interested in anything they have to offer at all.. 


Zero points for forum diarrhea..
To be fair even Regatu complained about the spam, was a user not them.

No, they're playing stupid.  They awarded me 100 karma points after I've already sent them about 3 "Fuck you" PMs with evidence demonstrating manipulation on the site.
2593  Other / Off-topic / Re: Hey Rugatu, WTF?! on: June 19, 2012, 08:06:34 AM

Or just do like I did with my sig.
2594  Other / Off-topic / Re: Hey Rugatu, WTF?! on: June 19, 2012, 07:53:38 AM
Here's more evidence of Rugatu manipulation.  I give you edgar_t, registered May 26, 2012.

http://www.rugatu.com/users/16/edgar_t/reputation/

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paraipan voted up edgar_t answer on [closed] Hitler reacts to the bitcoinica hack?

edgar_t voted down georgeBTC answer on [closed] How much is Rugatu worth? Best explanation of valuation gets it.

edgar_t voted down Caffeinewriter answer on [closed] How much is Rugatu worth? Best explanation of valuation gets it.

edgar_t voted down gweedo answer on [closed] How much is Rugatu worth? Best explanation of valuation gets it.

edgar_t voted down your answer on [closed] How much is Rugatu worth? Best explanation of valuation gets it.

UserSupport voted up edgar_t question [closed] Will this run Minecraft with no lag?

UserSupport voted up edgar_t answer on [closed] Who is the best singer of all time?

UserSupport voted up edgar_t question [closed] IPod touch screen goes dark?

UserSupport voted up edgar_t question [closed] Is there a Bitcoin gateway for PrestaShop with these specific features?

UserSupport voted up edgar_t question [closed] What is the meaning of the word "nsfw" ?

2595  Economy / Lending / Re: 5 day 5 btc loan. have collateral for being noob. name the interest. on: June 19, 2012, 07:42:20 AM
lmao
2596  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How much money is produced every four years... on: June 19, 2012, 07:07:08 AM
http://bitcoincharts.com/bitcoin/

Blocks last 24 hours: 151 blocks x 50 BTC = 7550 BTC x 365 days = 2755750 BTC x $5 USD = $13,778,750 USD

Is the above accurate?

Accurate only for that moment.  Once 10.5 million bitcoins have been issued, the block reward cuts in half.  This happens roughly every 4 years, and continues to cut in half every additional four years until the block reward drops below a single bit on the 64 bit integer that holds bitcoin values; after which point no more bitcoins will ever be issued.  This algo results in a total monetary base for bitcoins that is highly predictable and trends towards a (calculas) limit of 21 million bitcoins, but in practice will cease somewhat before hitting that limit.

Is this something like the kill screen in Donkey Kong?
2597  Other / Off-topic / Re: Hey Rugatu, WTF?! on: June 19, 2012, 06:03:08 AM
Well, I must say that Rugatu was the fastest service so far to go from launch to shitlist Grin
http://bitcoin-shitlist.com/2012/06/15/rugatu-take-prizes-meant-for-others/



Here was Rugatu's response to a comment I made: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86633.msg969255#msg969255

I would like to respectfully ask Rugatu staff members/mods to not collect rewards, vote, or choose answers on the behalf of someone else on any of the questions on the website. It could really alienate your users.

We're sorry if that happened to you or anyone else the first launch days. We had issues all over the place so some of the team members felt those actions were necessarily too, it will not happen again I can promise that. While people come back and accept their answers, such actions are not needed at all.

Bold is my emphasis. If Rugatu does not hold to that promise, they should get the scammer tag.

But OP's link was clearly asked by the rugatu team so yea

It's as if they think that choosing an answer that states their company is worth x objectively means that their company is worth x.
2598  Other / Off-topic / Re: Hey Rugatu, WTF?! on: June 19, 2012, 02:49:32 AM
I present you with this  http://www.rugatu.com/questions/617/how-much-is-rugatu-worth-best-explanation-of-valuation-gets-it

So, my answer receives the most votes, yet another answer is chosen as the "best" answer.

Are you fucking kidding me?  Actually, my answer received 5 up-votes (edit: now 6), and two down-votes were from Rugatu moderators.  So, you don't like my answer about the value of your company?

Fuck you guys.  I don't care about the question reward, but it's obvious you guys are full of shit.

Rugatu is just a way for some people to have legit thing on the exchange. It is nothing more than a functioning scam. Also if you go against them they suspend you like my account was after I posted they weren't a good investment, but claimed I was down voting a lot which I wasn't.

Lol, sorry bro, I might've had something to do with that.  You were down-voting quite a bit (like 8 in a row or something), and it appeared as though you were doing so specifically on questions that you were answering.  Actually, it was because of you that I recommended that they change the site so that people cannot cast down-votes on questions they answer, nor can they answer questions in which they have previously placed a down-vote.  Otherwise, people would just down-vote all the answers with many up-votes to increase their chances of getting the reward.

But I'm with you on the functioning scam.  And maybe you were suspended for the reason you claim.  I wouldn't doubt it at all.
2599  Other / Off-topic / Hey Rugatu, WTF?! on: June 19, 2012, 02:14:33 AM
I present you with this  http://www.rugatu.com/questions/617/how-much-is-rugatu-worth-best-explanation-of-valuation-gets-it

So, my answer receives the most votes, yet another answer is chosen as the "best" answer.

Are you fucking kidding me?  Actually, my answer received 5 up-votes (edit: now 6), and two down-votes were from Rugatu moderators.  So, you don't like my answer about the value of your company?

Fuck you guys.  I don't care about the question reward, but it's obvious you guys are full of shit.
2600  Economy / Lending / Re: 60 BTC loan on: June 18, 2012, 11:19:28 PM


The joint, you must be one of the most insensitive people on these forums.  Your mom died? Too bad, should have thought of that possibility.  Lose an arm?  Not an excuse.


Oh, you lost your mother and your arm.  Now I get it.  You must've paid for the funeral services and the hospital bill by yourself, and had a close friend/relative bring your laptop to the hospital for you so that you can be the honorable person that you are and make sure that you informed us about this 'hard situation' even though you're finding it difficult to press the keys, grab some tissues to wipe your tears, and push the morphine button all with one hand.

Really, you're going to go to that level?  Now, if this was actually the case, clearly we wouldn't have been hearing from you all this time.  Actually, I'm very sensitive to those in need, particularly nckrazze who is in need of his loan being repaid.  Actually, I offer a therapy service on this forum for those in need with a 100% satisfaction guarantee (no payment necessary for any reason as stated by the client) that I take very, very seriously.  Now of course, if you actually did lose your mother or an arm in the past two weeks, I'd be extremely sympathetic to your situation.  But, toss in some common sense and add a few peripheral testimonies and evidence from other forum members and we start to see a clearer picture.  

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Your character says much about you, another person I will avoid doing business with.

Ohhhhhhh burn.



So, due to the fact that you do not understand my situation, you're going to assume it's some nonexistent issue.  The only clear picture you see is the one you create in your head, forget the fact that you don't know the slightest bit of what happened to me.  I'm sure nckrazze needs his loan to be paid so bad, disregard his statement of having plenty of BTC.

You must be a fanominal therapist to take the time and understand your clients problems so thoroughly.

I'm siding with Scott J. If you don't know what happened, kindly fuck off.  If its that important to you, I will send you a pm detailing my personal life so you can at least know what you're talking about.


You blew your money on a girl?  Really?  You think that automatically entitles you to a loan extension?  And you have the balls to say that we're the insensitive ones?  Holy shit are you going to be in for a surprise in life.

Sorry nckrazze, hopefully all the free bumps helped you out.  If I had the BTC to spare I'd cover you.  Unfortunately, I don't.  But, you scored some rep points with me for being generous enough to deal with this kid and offer compromises.  Dropping out of thread now.  I really hope you get your money back.

Edit:  Dank, don't start with the suicide shit.  You have some serious issues if you think taking the chick to the beach is better than calling 911.
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