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2581  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Lauda, MinerJones, Blazed | Missing escrow funds on: October 24, 2018, 06:37:17 AM
The above says two things, 1st it explicitly says that the bitcoin would be held in 3AiGej11G8jUXvEBPvQKPLiHXC7ruUCp1Z, and 2nd, it implied that each of the three above escrows would be the sole custodian of one of the three private keys that can spend funds in the above address, requiring two of those keys.
No, it doesn't say that; this is what happens when a butthurt, pathetic scammer is interpreting the situation. That was that investment address; it has nothing to do with where funds were going to be kept.

The above is a breach of contract.
There is no contract that implies any such restriction, nor was there any breach of any kind of imaginary contract.

-snip-
There are no missing funds. When will you stop being upset that I trampled over your shady account-farming business? It's time to forfeit the lies. Roll Eyes
My analysts and the underlying facts speak for themselves.
2582  Economy / Reputation / Re: The Pharmacist,actmyname,Vod.. The mafia trying to get controll of bitcointalk ? on: October 24, 2018, 05:57:49 AM
Unfortunately this shotgun type approach to leaving negative feedback is just designed to enhance the social status of the leaver by making it appear they are doing more, at the expense of simply uninformed users making simple mistakes. It happens constantly. The real problem is scammers will come back with a bought account in 30 seconds, people who made an honest mistake will just not return, leading to an increasingly scammer saturated environment.

These specific circumstances could go either way, I could see this just being an honest mistake. Often these higher ranking users have no respect for the time invested in creating a reputation and will default on destroying it rather than erring on the side of caution. After all to keep track of the user is an actual investment of time. Shotgunning negatives to make yourself look good is easy.

Well said.  I would even add that power hungry members shotgunning negative feedback couldn't care less about who they chase away from the community (not saying the members listed on this thread topic are doing that), so long as there is less competition for their nefarious activities (fake ICOs, signature campaigns full of their alts, etc.) and they can pretend they're being helpful.
A select few people in power around here seem to be very power hungry.

Further, many on both Blazed's and hilariousandco's trust lists have little to no trading experience (yet interestingly have a decent amounts of trust ratings Roll Eyes ), and as such, they reasonably do not have any real incentives to maintain a marketplace with accurate trust ratings, nor do they have the experience necessary to distinguish between someone "not knowing any better" not to do something shady, and someone who is likely to be an actual scammer (someone who will actively attempt to steal money from others, or otherwise fraudulently obtain money from others). Also, these people have little to lose in their own business when they go around giving out unjust trust ratings.
2583  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Lauda, MinerJones, Blazed | Missing escrow funds on: October 24, 2018, 05:33:02 AM
Based on the terms that were (irresponsibly) set and dictated by the board of NVO, it seems as if the services of the escrows involved were completed according to the terms that were established by the parties involved. The accusations brought forth in this thread are that the escrows were acting in their best interest to imply theft of a portion of the escrowed funds. However, to me (and I hope that it doesn't appear I'm taking sides), it appears that no terms of the original agreement were broken by the escrow(s).
I think that is a pretty ridiculous assertion.

Quote from: lauda
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA256

Hello.

I am one of the escrows for the NVO-ICO. The 2-of-3 multi-signature address for this project will be:
3AiGej11G8jUXvEBPvQKPLiHXC7ruUCp1Z

Lauda,
17/05/2017
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Version: GnuPG v2

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Quote from: minerjones
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
minerjones may 17 2017 I am escrow for NVO and the following is the multi-sig escrow address 3AiGej11G8jUXvEBPvQKPLiHXC7ruUCp1Z
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
13DXoSQN7UDuxx7kokCPQMyQmvyEyoa3YU
ILQB/aWN9Itv0NkKmIeelGj4fnPYk1QSM8TaHJd/BRURD7mJzMpNwzVe29oDYYDt9Pwja/PsReutyAM1E7tDb0o=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Quote from: blazed
Staked BTC address -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg10822025#msg10822025 (1BLazedp2eGDrDM3NMbxkn7n4PCCk6WYVX)

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Blazed 5/17/2017 I am an escrow for NVO and the following is the multi-sig escrow address 3AiGej11G8jUXvEBPvQKPLiHXC7ruUCp1Z
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1BLazedp2eGDrDM3NMbxkn7n4PCCk6WYVX
G2+1a9Uo5GU7Ch3dM/5a3c/b4NHKk2szD8CngvvomARgIVG9d7YtQGwK/ZJUn5QiEEBkK3yfW0RQIpE8g4I0KOY=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
The above says two things, 1st it explicitly says that the bitcoin would be held in 3AiGej11G8jUXvEBPvQKPLiHXC7ruUCp1Z, and 2nd, it implied that each of the three above escrows would be the sole custodian of one of the three private keys that can spend funds in the above address, requiring two of those keys.

The bitcoin very much was not held in that address, and there is circumstantial evidence that all of the bitcoin was able to be spent by one person.

The above is a breach of contract.

Further, there is a minimum of 10BTC unaccounted for in regards to the BCH coins being exchanged for bitcoin. If you were to describe this in the most generous of terms, you would say this is a "fee" for exchanging the coins, however this was neither disclosed, nor agreed to before the "fee" was charged. Realistically, this money was stolen, and the amount is most likely to be closer to 30BTC or so, based on trading volumes at the time.

I would make similar statements in regards to the various alts collected, however the amount missing is far greater, in the millions of dollars, and the percentage of money from the sale of the altcoins missing is also far greater.
2584  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Should UBI Replace all Welfare Systems? on: October 22, 2018, 03:50:31 AM
Andy Kessler an editorial column in the WSJ today, that will presumably be published in Monday's paper.

He argues that UBI created government dependency, and would lead to socialism. One missing piece from his argument is that entitlements inevitably will be expanded over time.

An interesting portion of his piece is:
Quote from: Andy Kessler
[...]This isn’t sliding a slippery slope toward socialism, it’s a trapdoor

How would the fund get all those assets? Start with all government-owned land and buildings. Then add a 3% market-capitalization tax on public companies. Apple would owe $30 billion. Add a continuing 0.5% market-cap tax, a 5% levy on initial public offerings and 3% on mergers. Smells Marxian: “government owning the means of production.” So much for the ash heap. Then increase the death tax and get rid of every tax deduction. Heck, they better pay hefty universal basic lay-on-the-couch dividends because why would anyone ever go to work again? Companies would have minimal retained earnings to invest in the future, and workers wouldn’t keep much of their pay. [...]
2585  Other / Meta / Re: @theymos on: October 22, 2018, 12:26:04 AM
theymos said around the time trust exclusions were implemented that those who give negative ratings to those who are not scammers will not be in the Default Trust network.

Wrong link? Doesn't say anything of the sort.
If you read my post, you would see that I said it was around that time....


I think the main problem is that the trust system has given members that haven't proven themselves responsible enough the ability to mark someone's account with negative trust, and essentially ruin the account.

Any inaccuracies will eventually be fixed. I'm not going to allow the default trust network to contain inaccurate ratings for long.




Being defamed here as scammer is not something i will accept.
I'd be interested to know what you think your options are here, other than accepting the feedback you've been given. 
I think it is interesting to see you didn't pose publicly debating the rating as an option.

This is exactly what happens when many people are added to DT who don't have any serious amount of trading experience.
2586  Economy / Reputation / Re: The Pharmacist,actmyname,Vod.. The mafia trying to get controll of bitcointalk ? on: October 21, 2018, 06:55:10 PM
In the past, people trying to take these types of loans would be first given a warning that what they are doing looks shady, and are given the opportunity to lock their request to avoid the negative trust.
2587  Other / Meta / Re: @theymos on: October 21, 2018, 06:50:52 PM
It was good before but from last few years this whole trust system turned into a big joke.
theymos said around the time trust exclusions were implemented that those who give negative ratings to those who are not scammers will not be in the Default Trust network.

Today, users who regularly give out negative ratings to their enemies who are clearly not scammers, and who otherwise regularly give negative trust who can in no reasonable way be described as a scammer, are regularly not only added to the DT network, but will receive additional inclusions by those on DT1 when others exclude them.
2588  Other / Meta / Re: Is there now a "Reason" section in the Ban message on: October 21, 2018, 04:09:36 PM
most of these copy/pasters don't read the rules before they embark upon their career of stealing other people's words, and for another they probably don't see plagiarism as doing anything wrong.
Considering how many accounts were banned because of copy and pasting, it may be worth to add warning in the field of sending message.
_
I suspect that most plagiarism spammers are run via automation, and the person behind the account will never see that warning.

This is also not something that people should need to be told to not do. It is not unlike saying that you cannot extort someone.
2589  Other / Meta / Re: Is there now a "Reason" section in the Ban message on: October 21, 2018, 08:33:33 AM
This is not new. If you are permanently banned, no reason will be displayed. If you have a temporary ban the person implementing the ban will put a reason.
2590  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Effect of the Social Media to the world on: October 20, 2018, 04:18:24 AM
Social media platforms should provide more tools to help people decide for themselves what is true and what is fake news/disinformation. One way might be to use those in a persons network to help a person decide what are reliable sources.

I am strongly against social media companies censoring fake news as they are not entities that I want to be arbiters of truth. They are potentially more powerful than government in their control of information and would generally be held unaccountable if they censored true information that is damaging to their priorities.
2591  Other / Politics & Society / Re: China Launching an Artificial Moon on: October 20, 2018, 04:08:39 AM
This very well could be something other than its stated goal of lighting the sky in China. They say it will save ~$180 in annual lighting/electric costs, but what would they do when it is cloudy?

I speculate it’s true purpose is to either spy on their citizens or to interfere with other country’s spy satellites imaging China.
2592  Economy / Reputation / Re: UPDATED [prison break] Full list of users who lost their DT red trust from Lauda on: October 19, 2018, 03:06:47 AM

My feedback was on-point pretty much >98% of the time.
Agreed.


Maybe not...maybe ~43% is closer to accurate (even under liberal standards of tagging people)...

Handled users 420 to 500. Tagged 35/81 users.
2593  Other / Meta / Re: Economic implications of merits on: October 18, 2018, 09:17:52 PM
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If you're offering merits to someone who writes a post giving you an answer that's valuable to you, I would say that's totally fine.  Hell, I've merited posts that were nothing more than funny memes that made me laugh--and some de-ranked Newbies had a fit when I last did that, but I don't consider it merit abuse by a long shot.

However, if you're offering merits as a reward for someone providing a service or goods to you that has nothing to do with making a post, then I'd say it's not kosher.
What if you are offa merit in exchange for posting some kind of research that would normally warrant a payment? Such a post might normally receive merit however it would probably also warrant an offer of payment from the person soliciting the information.

I also regularly receive what is basically someone begging for merit. I often review their post history and decline to respond. However one might argue that it would be fair to charge for my valuable time to review someone’s posts, especially if they post in topics uninteresting to me. It would probably be unfair to charge to review posts and end up not giving a merit.
2594  Economy / Lending / Re: ✳️CoinLenders/Inputs.io depositors: Reimbursements CLOSED on: October 18, 2018, 08:12:06 PM
Why were you unable to reimburse the 12th top reachable user?
2595  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Saudi Journalist Megathread on: October 18, 2018, 07:05:37 PM
I believe he is a US citizen,

Hes a permanent resident, not a citizen of the US.  Hes a Saudi citizen although he does have 2 children that are American Citizens.
That weakens the case for action a little bit. Although I would probably still want action considering he worked for a US company in the US as a reporter.

He has fairly strong ties to the US and isn’t accused of doing anything that would threaten anyone’s safety.
Quote
Trump has declared the press is the enemy of the people is it really a wonder why autocratic regimes think they can get away with anything they want???
Trump has asked the free market to ignore those who inaccurately and unfairly report on him. He hasn’t caused any form of violence or otherwise attempted to use force to compel any reporters to say certain things.

2596  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Saudi Journalist Megathread on: October 17, 2018, 02:16:02 PM
I believe he is a US citizen, which strengthens the case for intervening. I don’t think it would be good for the US, or anyone if foreign governments are able to go around killing US citizens without consequence.

If this was sanctioned by a foreign government, action needs to be taken.
2597  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Shoot The Shit About American Politics on: October 17, 2018, 01:55:15 AM
....
I think we need a wall on the 49th parallel and we should make the turtles pay for it!  Those god damn Canadians coming across the border HAS to be stopped at all costs!

Trump term 1, wall on the south.

Trump term 2, wall on the north.

I'm feeling safer already.

Wait...there's weed on the OTHER SIDE of both those walls...
I suspect that changing the laws/reducing the red tape around deporting illegals will make the wall redundant. A southern wall may still be built, however the law will no longer give incentives to cross the border illegally.
2598  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2020 Democratic Nominee. on: October 16, 2018, 10:33:55 PM
CNN released a poll a few days ago that has Joe Biden favored to win the nomination at 33%, followed by Bernie Sanders at 13% and Warren at 9%.

Biden would do very well against Trump if he still has enough energy at his age. (He's only 3 years older than Trump, but he looks/acts far older.) Biden isn't stained quite as much by the insane parts of the Democratic party, and he knows how to punch back without looking as crazy as Trump sometimes does. IMO Biden could win a decent chunk of the Republican base from Trump.
Some political pundits have said that Biden is the only democrat who could potentially defeat Trump in 2020. He is probably moderate enough to win the general election, although post 2016, the Democratic Party has moved fairly sharply to the left and might not be able to win the nomination. The fact that he was Obama’s VP in 2016 may raise questions about his involvement in the spying on the Trump campaign in 2016, and even if he was not involved, it may bring up unflattering things about the Obama administration.

I would hope that Democrats have learned their lesson regarding essentially rigging who wins the nomination.

Quote from: theymos
I can see someone like Creepy Porn Lawyer doing something stupid like running as a third party and effectively removing any chance of Trump not getting reelected.

That'd be pretty funny, but it could also happen on the other side. Several Republicans are already calling for a primary challenge, and when they lose, they might take it as far as going independent. Jeff Flake even said that he'd prefer a Democrat over Trump in 2020. It's a huge ordeal to get on the ballot in even one state, but they could target just a few swing states with the specific goal of derailing Trump. I wonder if they're already setting up for it (maybe indicated by public records).
I would be surprised to see a republican run as a third party absent some major scandal regarding Trump that has actual substance. Flake isn’t running for reelection in part because his stance against Trump makes him unable to win an election in Arizona. I would also be surprised to see him run in a situation that would effectively guarantee someone with some kind of a socialist platform becoming president, which is virtually guaranteed based on the current Democratic Party.

If Flake, or another republican had already set up a formal campaign (or a PAC), it would be a matter of public record, and would make the news, which I haven’t seen.

If the Democrats have another what some believe to be an unfair primary process, we may see a third party democrat run. Some have also said that the Creepy porn lawyer is a republican plant, and if this is true, he will run as a third party (he may also otherwise run).

Quote from: theymos
It'd be interesting if we had a third party win electoral votes. I've always wanted to see congress pick the president.
Trump could have won with some third party winning a few small states in 2016, and the same is true in both of Obama elections and Bushs 2004 election (and others). I suspect that a political party (and voters) will generally rally around a single candidate, even if not their nominee. If voters believe the president will be chosen by congress they may vote in smaller numbers if they would otherwise vote for that party, so the party that only has one nominee may win states the other party would otherwise win.
2599  Other / Meta / Re: Captcha bypass on: October 16, 2018, 09:58:26 PM
It sounds like this means that for all intents and purposes, you will only need to use a captcha once, when you create your account, provided you save the bypass link and can access it when you login.

This is probably a step forward for tor users, although CF sometimes otherwise makes using tor difficult. It would probably be helpful (and marginally profitable) to sell unique .onion addresses intended for individual users that can be used to access the forum via tor. Privacy would only be impacted marginally, although depending on how much information you think CF collects, it may help privacy.
2600  Other / Meta / Re: Obvious fake bumping, but there's no proof. What to do? on: October 16, 2018, 07:28:07 PM
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What exactly can be done against this w/out concrete proof of them doing it?
1 - Find proof
2 - Report said thread with said proof
3 - ? ? ?
4 - Profit
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