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The point of you exclaiming you're blocking my PM's is what exactly? Me thinks he wants to virtue signal This thread is a very good example of what is wrong with the trust system.
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Or is it possible that the person lovesmayfamilis mistakenly copied the text manually instead of selecting the quote?
Not possible. He copied the entire post and didn’t add anything to what was copied.
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I'll would almost guarantee that he has the home address and real name of OGNasty in case something like theft were to happen
I sure hope so. I'd consider that absolutely required, regardless of whether a multisig address is used, for security, to sign the contract and for tax purposes. That would also allow to make sure the chosen treasurers are really different people and not related to each other, which worried QS. My concerns are primarily around possible business relationships. If you would trust the keyholders with being solely in control of 500 BTC, having this conflict will not make any difference, however if the conclusion is the person would only be safe to hold much less BTC, my concerns become more relevant. I doubt very much he's gonna just send 500 btc to a guy and not have some sort of information on the guy.
When theymos sent me the treasury funds, I had not given him any information about myself whatsoever. I keep the funds safe because I am an honest person, not out of fear that I couldn't take the BTC. Read the contract... "This is a non-legal agreement between The Bitcoin Forum ("Forum") and OgNasty ("Treasurer"). This agreement is intended to be enforced in a non-violent, non-legal way by the community." This Libertarian treasury experiment was a leap of faith by theymos, and I am not going to disappoint him. Don't just take my word for it though. Watch and see. This seems to have worked well with living treasurers, but not so much when the treasurer dies. I suspect this is in part because a treasurers heirs are not going to care about the community the same way a treasurer will, given a best case scenario, and a more common scenario is that the heirs will make a mistake and sell the treasurers computer equipment holding the private keys
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It would be helpful if the last x number of your posts of yours that were reported and marked "good" by a moderator was included in the ban message. This would help cut down on these pointless threads in which the person claims they did nothing wrong, only to be shown proof they plagiarized.
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I am filling the loan.
OP please confirm.
Yeah, Please go ahead. txid fb74ace9823dfb5083c5fbc4e56b5d07d79903ff5b0ab846676ad2f87582678a Please repay to the below address. Good luck! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 I have funded the loan ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5142562.0;all) to SM23031997 via TXID fb74ace9823dfb5083c5fbc4e56b5d07d79903ff5b0ab846676ad2f87582678a Please repay according to the following address according to the following schedule: 36wD9WZri7utFL2x7Y8kMqB2piHcfqM6S2 By May 16, 2019: 0.0165 BTC OR By May 28, 2019: 0.01575 Regards QS May 13, 2019 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEPnn+llIEVKrixxxICkPizH4nZ20FAlzaKBUACgkQCkPizH4n Z20FPRAAiF5kZtEdLYR7WkolTN92J8EuRENRODlYqYAE+HTQ7XFYqguTq4LnCG77 I8uUmtIrv5kHn7nvJ0m1CbZszF8HHZcnxRE23M74YI/l3otRdiCxkKCBlhCi/hWX 86/AYUpfa6zcUakia0ytsKorJ9XUM51sOQiVyWLJBgDlidT7K8nCgEwuXzmrgE5a IwE4YyaPsk87d4aK9TXjTB20eLLTNBk6vBxit8japxrvS5vLTUGtj13xQXyEXi4z hmfg4bUf79S1aauyaW/V/qZbzVdBk3snmnGGp8HGIva29WVgd6Fx6NXNtvxzVpZ0 ZWkj8ypw3/bv6eEcy/5JXZ36LWvjyqm64yayjbkNGcVP2I3FFkhS+4q3fHjG8g7E jUfjaxBc/DeVlGq60hegKrqosvggMQHfa7OFtxHX9Yz2LiD2svxUwV9uTG6vYgDY b5qqTgmcT8Tgbhy60qCA9KrrC2RDc85y11qK11sXVlk4H1qz782Ovv1UV7Xr5CXh TGHO1Z5q/OVe2u0+GULh9bqFQrP5iX4V5Kq3h/36Hhfvrn+VLacBQNJrknfVNstD Q8GFJ24CS3ISLAaVhPBRj9gVyc3L0UqO4cGfimXzvrAaVlZSZChyNHP32VN6XJPO IpTQMuN7RFIVcYyzRIOcbgzKMubBMldxPsdW5rRamuMk9SLqW2M= =L2lX -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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I am filling the loan.
OP please confirm.
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Guns are already banned from schools, and this is precisely the reason why there are so many mass shootings in schools.
Teachers and school administrators should be allowed to carry guns on school property, and this would probably stop ~all school shootings. Not every teacher needs to have a gun in their classroom, but the threat that they might have one is going to be enough to prevent someone from wanting to carry out a school shooting.
I dont really think that is the case. How many shootings end up with the shooter killed by the police or themselves at the end of it? I can't say for certain, but I'd imagine a lot of people that plan attacks, don't intend on escaping alive. You don't see the same patterns as with armed burglary where the attacker gets in, does what they came to do, and quickly leaves before police arrive. People go in and stay until they are surrounded by police. I also don't believe that attacks are more frequently perpetrated on gun free zones because attackers are concerned for their own safety. Its just a guaranteed way to get on the news. If you are a suicidal psychopath, being on national news for a final hurrah might be appealing. The cycle will continue until we stop giving these people the attention they crave. Of course that won't happen though. [...] Someone wanting to carry out a mass shooting wants to inflict maximum damage to his victims, and going to a gun free zone will mean the shooter has an extended time until he encounters any kind of resistance to his attack. If a shooter were to go into a school in which all the teachers have guns, he would be stopped nearly immidiately, which is not what he wants, so he will not even try.
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I am not sure there are enough trustworthy people whom it would not be insane to trust with this much money, and to not collude to try to steal the money.
BTC500 to be held by one single person? Definitely not. Not anyone. I think those funds are at risk. 7 people for a 4-of-7 multisig address so 4 signatures are required? Absolutely yes. Much less trust is required in that case. First of all, this is ultimately theymos' money, legally speaking, so the decision starts and ends with him. In order for it to be a good idea to allow someone to hold 500 BTC of your money, you need to be confident they can be trusted holding said money. This is very straightforward as all you need to ask yourself if the person can be trusted with said amount of money. OgN has shown himself to be able to be trusted with the money -- he has not touched the money, even as its value exceeded $10 million, this is true even if you need to ask probing questions when relying on information provided by him. If someone were to be a keyholder of a 4-of-7 address, they need to be similarly trusted. They perhaps to not need to have sufficient "trust" -- that is confidence they will keep their promises when amounts involved are in the millions, not having a bunch of ratings for $200 transactions and for having "good judgment" -- to hold 500 BTC, but need enough trust to hold very substantial amounts of others' money. If you were to rely on the fact that two "people" are truly separate people, you will have difficulty verifying this information. First you need to verify they are two distinct people, but this is difficult because locations can easily be faked. Next you need to evaluate if the various keyholders have existing business or personal relationships that might conflict with the assumption the keyholders will not collude to steal the money. Two people that run a business venture together are going to be similar to being one person as they are likely to be loyal to eachother, and their financial success not only depends on the others' reputation, but also their financial situations are likely to be similar and will depend on how successful their venture is. The same is true if two people later form a venture after becoming a stakeholder. if two people have frequently traded with eachother, or are otherwise friendly, they may not disclose an (unsuccessful) attempt to collude to steal funds as a "joke" or would not otherwise report such an attempt. If there's going to be a multisig treasurer system, wouldn't it make sense to only pay the treasurers for their services after the funds have been paid back?
Is there an overview of past returns from treasurers? I know one was lost, but I don't know how the others did. I'm curious if it's been worth having treasurers over just Admin keeping the funds.
The service is to hold the money, potentially for years (as has been the case), and to maintain the private keys holding the coins. Coinbase charges 0.5% per year to hold coins similarly to how the treasurers are holding funds. Gemini charges 0.4%/year. OgN's payment is probably a bit on the high side, but both he and theymos are free to negotiate a price they wish.
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I am not sure there are enough trustworthy people whom it would not be insane to trust with this much money, and to not collude to try to steal the money.
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It looks like Vod might be trying to pull a “Michael Avenatti” Ok. Contact me through legal means. I'll give your lawyer my info - the IRS will have it too.
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I have seen threads in which the banned user says they emailed the appeal email address and didn’t receive any response. This makes me believe appeals are ignored when they will not be granted.
Perhaps a better solution would be to give a response that the appeal has not been granted at this time when this is the case.
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I support a temp ban in ~all cases in which only a small amount of plagiarism is involved AND it happened a long time ago. Plagiarism is undoubtedly both very wrong, and a major problem within the forum, but I don't see the benefit of removing someone who only did damage (plagiarized) years ago, especially if they are now otherwise being a member who is contributing to the forum. No you don’t. You relentlessly went after me when I was trying to come back to the forum as well as when others fighting for me did the same after plagiarizing a couple post during one days time. Your plagiarized posts were not from a long time ago when you were banned, giving you no time to have changed your ways, nor to otherwise contribute to the forum. Further: I'm unaware of what I did wrong.
which does not give me confidence you would not do something similarly harmful to the forum given the opportunity. There was also a high profile fight against plagiarism at the time, and it was well publicized that plagiarism was not acceptable around here.
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The jealousy I’ve encountered for holding that position alone has been so toxic, I would welcome others joining me in that responsibility at this point. It would feel like a target has been taken off my back.
I don't think it is jealousy. I think some people believe you are willing to take money off the top when you are holding money for others, because that is exactly what they do, and they want part of that action. When it was well known I was holding a large amount of money on behalf of someone else, I received extortion threats asking for the exact amount I was holding, even though it had been well known I personally owed an even larger number of coins at the time. It is my belief that these people believe you will be willing to part ways with money you are holding for other people and the "jealousy" you are seeing is actually a setup for an extortion attempt, if you have not already received extortion threats for the amount of money you are holding. The people who are saying that Theymos should switch to multi sig are secretly trying to extort the forum funds from OG? Please explain how that would work when multiple people need to sign the signature. You are twisting my words. OgN currently holds the only key to the 500 BTC he is holding for the forum, and there have not been any serious calls for forum funds to be held in a multisig address. What is being said about OgN is not unlike what was said about zeroaxl before he was extorted. The primary difference is that zeroaxl was privately accused of a bunch of BS, while OgN is being publicly accused of the same.
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My children will spend what 14-20 years in educational institutions, and can go there day after day without ever fearing for their motherfucking lives.
Guns are already banned from schools, and this is precisely the reason why there are so many mass shootings in schools. Teachers and school administrators should be allowed to carry guns on school property, and this would probably stop ~all school shootings. Not every teacher needs to have a gun in their classroom, but the threat that they might have one is going to be enough to prevent someone from wanting to carry out a school shooting.
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You can still trade on Gemini via their Active TraderTM platform, that is similar to CoinbasePro, and will be charged a 1% fee if your 30 day rolling volume is less than $25k. Gemini appears to be moving towards the model that Coinbase (not coinbase pro) used, that is to attract retail customers who are willing to pay a significant markup to buy or cashout. I suspect their trading volume was insufficient to generate enough revenue, even though their fees are among the highest in the industry, if not the highest. They appear to have given up on trying to compete with "real" exchanges and appear to be competing with LBC traders (and CB). You can also create an API to get even lower fees.
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I would advise against doing this.
Both mixing services are only guaranteeing the address will be valid for a limited amount of time. If there is a problem/delay with the 1st mixing service that causes the transaction to confirm after the cutoff time for the 2nd mixing service, or if multiple transactions are sent from the first mixing service with the last one being after the cutoff, then the second mixing service may not send you your money. This would be a real problem because some mixing services periodically delete their private keys associated with zero balance addresses in order to protect privacy of their users in case a government agency finds their servers.
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People on the Internet aren't fooled. The video has a 30% approval rating (that is to say 70% dislikes) and most of the comments are people who understand what's happening.
How can a media outlet think they can get away with such blatant lies in this day and age? CNN is nothing but Jeff Zucker's propaganda stream. Any one who takes their "news" stories as factually accurate is a fool, and I think that pool of fools is not-so-slowly getting drained. They get away with his because no one is calling out their advertisers in a way similar to how left wing operative groups call out advertisers of Fox News and similar to silence their opinions. This is hardly the most dishonest thing CNN has done in the past couple of years, or even months. In March, they ~immidiately started talking about healthcare at the public request of Nancy Pelosi. CNN's coverage is anti-Trump enough so their viewers (who watch because CNN is anti-Trump) don't care when they are caught fabricating a story, or otherwise being dishonest, and they wont bother to fact-check what CNN is saying.
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He PM’ed me a few days ago asking me to confirm if your country of residence was one of two countries you lived in — he said he found someone to sell your dox and was trying to arrange escrow. I asked him what he was going to do with the information and he responded that he planned on filling a lawsuit (presumably for libel) against you. I told him I was away from my computer and would get back to him. I forgot about his request and he messaged me to follow up, I responded that if he gave me what he received I could confirm if it is correct — I haven’t received a response.
I do think he has a case for libel. Although the amount of damages he would potentially get will not make filing such a lawsuit worth his while.
Why would you give somebody who is clearly slightly unhinged TMAN’s personal information? QS, I used to really, really respect you but it seems you’re always around to be semi helpful to the likes of cryptohunter, Thule etc, why? In case my post was unclear (I don't think it is), I did not give Thule any personal information, I only offered to confirm if the information he had was accurate with a "yes/no" answer. The purpose of my post was to lay out the facts as to what happened and allow others to form their own conclusions, however my conclusion is that Thule did not actually receive any personal information, and probably was not actually willing to pay for said information.
The only thing you actually said here was that you dont have the slightest clue how legal proceedings work. In order for TMAN to be guilty of libel, he must have said something that is observably disprovable. He must have said something as a statement of fact that can be proven as untrue. Since he doesn't even know who Thule is, it's impossible to prove or disprove anything about him (even if it's a him). And even if Thules identity was discovered after the fact it wouldn't matter because he made his statements about Thule prior to discovery.
Pretty lame QS, even for you.
I am going to have to disagree with your conclusions on this one. You are free to do as you wish, but I stand by my statement that a defamatory statement against an online identity can be a tort, even if the person's IRL identity is not known. If you were to go up to a random person on the street and say they are cheating on their spouse, you would be slandering them (assuming this is untrue), even if you do not know who they are. If the person is not a "public figure" ignorance of the truth is not a defense to libel nor is relying on inaccurate information. It is also possible to libel/slander a business, or an entity that is DBA (doing business as) in a particular trade name.
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Ginsburg is suffering from lung cancer (a type of cancer which has low levels of survival, especially for 86-year olds). As per my calculations, she has 6 months, or at the most 12 months left.
I was under the impression she is going to fully recover from the cancer she had. I do agree that RGB is very old and will probably not last through the end of Trump's second term if he get reelected. This is of course speculation. Roberts used to be a solid conservative justice until the ObamaCare case. I get the feeling that Roberts does not particularly like Trump, and wants to avoid the court system becoming politicized. Obama/Clinton appointed judges are ignoring the law and making ruling based upon the fact they will hurt Trump, and Trump is responding by publicly criticizing the judges. IMO, the best chances of Trump getting the court to shift farther to the right is Roberts retiring. This would eliminate a swing vote and replace it with a right leaning Justice. I think the chances are greatest this will happen sometime after the 2020 election, if it would happen during a Trump presidency at all.
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I was disgusted by the reckless and vicious doxing in this case, where: - The evidence was very thin. - Even if all of the allegations were true, it'd likely result only in civil penalties, not criminal. - The whole thing was motivated merely by past arguments. OgNasty never caused Vod to even lose anything, as far as I know. An utterly ridiculous & disproportionate escalation.
You should check out the repeated doxing in my untrusted feedback someday. Thanks Theymos! On the topic of dox'ing via trust ratings, Vod has left trust ratings containing what purports to be personal information of the person receiving the rating for the following people: *myself * pmlv5555* Gerald8All of the ratings were sent after the rules on doxing were put in place. The two other users appear to have gotten nuked/banned, and I wonder if their actions that lead to their ban was in part caused by frustration of having this information freely available in their trust profile. Fast forward to page 4 where Quicksy attempts to dox me, repeatedly and maliciously,
You really should stop being dishonest. The post you are referring to quite literally cited information you posted yourself.
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