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Author Topic: Lauda, MinerJones, Blazed | Missing escrow funds  (Read 25263 times)
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October 24, 2018, 04:46:15 AM
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Are there any threads where Lauda explains the purpose of these recent changes to their forum account? Link please.
This is the best explanation I've seen so far:  

Didn't you say you changed the email?
I did change it. What about it?

Them's fightin' words!  Sad
Which is more than sufficient; if people can't follow PGP chains than that is their own problem. More changes are coming.

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October 24, 2018, 05:33:02 AM
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Based on the terms that were (irresponsibly) set and dictated by the board of NVO, it seems as if the services of the escrows involved were completed according to the terms that were established by the parties involved. The accusations brought forth in this thread are that the escrows were acting in their best interest to imply theft of a portion of the escrowed funds. However, to me (and I hope that it doesn't appear I'm taking sides), it appears that no terms of the original agreement were broken by the escrow(s).
I think that is a pretty ridiculous assertion.

Quote from: lauda
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA256

Hello.

I am one of the escrows for the NVO-ICO. The 2-of-3 multi-signature address for this project will be:
3AiGej11G8jUXvEBPvQKPLiHXC7ruUCp1Z

Lauda,
17/05/2017
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v2

iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJZHJdIAAoJEPTjrTxS+ZrbuQcH/ia4aFdQQe9+p6EnuuYed7gY
eubk16Pkzx21l8JcljJYadIDYW51TI76IukSFwYmoLfG3HoRTexwD02ZYa0bA4oO
cm4kaikbf3U9CU32uJ6jklthpc8HbrLs2H+BJMrcA/1dofQKhXntDHUqPQFuTqlR
JitQ3uzLlJ1OFyiRXOpO5kvSD1lGLUS2rXugULZrXZExT0xcA39j+du9QfdC/26N
lFl9y/HA+XSRgf618dSPmxpv6JtORtERvS4kklZvVFIjIxuNy/+kwE2t1qO1Xz1Q
x2UBkbGATrw3MYPbck5TLdcbLNOdX3321r2K8YY7K2CKNCe4zbP0td+gKTPQLEc=
=n++w
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Quote from: minerjones
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
minerjones may 17 2017 I am escrow for NVO and the following is the multi-sig escrow address 3AiGej11G8jUXvEBPvQKPLiHXC7ruUCp1Z
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
13DXoSQN7UDuxx7kokCPQMyQmvyEyoa3YU
ILQB/aWN9Itv0NkKmIeelGj4fnPYk1QSM8TaHJd/BRURD7mJzMpNwzVe29oDYYDt9Pwja/PsReutyAM1E7tDb0o=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Quote from: blazed
Staked BTC address -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg10822025#msg10822025 (1BLazedp2eGDrDM3NMbxkn7n4PCCk6WYVX)

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Blazed 5/17/2017 I am an escrow for NVO and the following is the multi-sig escrow address 3AiGej11G8jUXvEBPvQKPLiHXC7ruUCp1Z
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1BLazedp2eGDrDM3NMbxkn7n4PCCk6WYVX
G2+1a9Uo5GU7Ch3dM/5a3c/b4NHKk2szD8CngvvomARgIVG9d7YtQGwK/ZJUn5QiEEBkK3yfW0RQIpE8g4I0KOY=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
The above says two things, 1st it explicitly says that the bitcoin would be held in 3AiGej11G8jUXvEBPvQKPLiHXC7ruUCp1Z, and 2nd, it implied that each of the three above escrows would be the sole custodian of one of the three private keys that can spend funds in the above address, requiring two of those keys.

The bitcoin very much was not held in that address, and there is circumstantial evidence that all of the bitcoin was able to be spent by one person.

The above is a breach of contract.

Further, there is a minimum of 10BTC unaccounted for in regards to the BCH coins being exchanged for bitcoin. If you were to describe this in the most generous of terms, you would say this is a "fee" for exchanging the coins, however this was neither disclosed, nor agreed to before the "fee" was charged. Realistically, this money was stolen, and the amount is most likely to be closer to 30BTC or so, based on trading volumes at the time.

I would make similar statements in regards to the various alts collected, however the amount missing is far greater, in the millions of dollars, and the percentage of money from the sale of the altcoins missing is also far greater.

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October 24, 2018, 05:38:34 AM
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The above says two things, 1st it explicitly says that the bitcoin would be held in 3AiGej11G8jUXvEBPvQKPLiHXC7ruUCp1Z, and 2nd, it implied that each of the three above escrows would be the sole custodian of one of the three private keys that can spend funds in the above address, requiring two of those keys.
No, it doesn't say that; this is what happens when a butthurt, pathetic scammer is interpreting the situation. That was that investment address; it has nothing to do with where funds were going to be kept.

The above is a breach of contract.
There is no contract that implies any such restriction, nor was there any breach of any kind of imaginary contract.

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There are no missing funds. When will you stop being upset that I trampled over your shady account-farming business? It's time to forfeit the lies. Roll Eyes

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October 24, 2018, 06:37:17 AM
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The above says two things, 1st it explicitly says that the bitcoin would be held in 3AiGej11G8jUXvEBPvQKPLiHXC7ruUCp1Z, and 2nd, it implied that each of the three above escrows would be the sole custodian of one of the three private keys that can spend funds in the above address, requiring two of those keys.
No, it doesn't say that; this is what happens when a butthurt, pathetic scammer is interpreting the situation. That was that investment address; it has nothing to do with where funds were going to be kept.

The above is a breach of contract.
There is no contract that implies any such restriction, nor was there any breach of any kind of imaginary contract.

-snip-
There are no missing funds. When will you stop being upset that I trampled over your shady account-farming business? It's time to forfeit the lies. Roll Eyes
My analysts and the underlying facts speak for themselves.

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October 24, 2018, 06:39:29 AM
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My analysts and the underlying facts speak for themselves.
There are no facts (presented by you), and you (nor your accompanying scam buddies) are certainly not qualified to perform any objective analysis. The only fact is as follows: No funds have been lost, and more funds have been returned than was required.

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January 27, 2019, 12:03:33 PM
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How many scams and still a DT member.I guess i will need to make a collection and forward it to some project owners.

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