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261  Economy / Speculation / Re: Hey! it's $50k today. on: February 20, 2024, 06:31:13 PM
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Downwards movement? If there's a piece of negative news maybe. I mean the US stock market is kind of bullish right now, and the S&P500 just had its new ATH,  and both are correlated with each other. TBH, I don't see any reason for Bitcoin to go down below $50,000 at least for the next 2-3 weeks. Tongue
That may be true, but in the last hour the price of bitcoin has tested the $50k support although now the price is back above $51k. Positive sentiment will not be maintained forever, so even though we are optimistic about waiting for bigger movements, the trend can change quickly.

Some people panic too much when corrections occur and this usually results in price dumping, and in the last 4 days I can confirm that the daily trading volume seems to continue to be less. This indicates a correction and today it occurred.
262  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: February 20, 2024, 06:17:10 PM
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I can't predict this match even though Inter Milan is favored maybe because of playing at home but there is no guarantee Inter Milan will win, I think this match will end with a low goal and for under 2.5 goals not a bad idea. Atletico Madrid will play more defensively and hope this match will end in a draw so in the second leg Atletico Madrid will try to win it, it's just that today Inter Milan will not let it be easy after all Inter Milan will try to take advantage of the opportunity to play at home so that in the second leg their duties will be easier.
Atletico Madrid are not favorites in their away match against Inter. Atletico Madrid is considered not to have a high chance of winning the match, while Inter, who is playing at home, is the favorite. The second leg would be very interesting if Inter and Atletico Madrid draw today, but the chances of Inter winning at home today are too high.

I don't think Atletico Madrid can be underestimated, they are a solid team whether defending or counter-attacking. Inter has a chance to win, Atletico Madrid also has it, so regardless of the odds for both, a draw is also possible and you should not ignore it.
263  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: February 20, 2024, 05:01:35 PM
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yeah. Since Girone got defeated by Real Madrid, they started getting weaker, though if we are to compare Girona's performance to Barcelona's performance, there is still a difference, as I think they are doing better than Barcelona. However, maybe Girona is finding it difficult to go back to their form, thinking about how consistently they have performed from the start of the season to the day Real Madrid defeated them and took over their position.

I think that is what makes them feel weak, but Girona shouldn't get weaker because Barcelona are also coming. For them and I believe Barcelona are going to dominate these matches so they can get the second position and maybe be ready for Real Madrid and also ready for the title race. I can see that Barcelona are also showing some consistency in their matches, so let’s see how it will be.
So far Girona is only slightly better than Barcelona in terms of points recorded, goal productivity and number of goals conceded. Girona is 2 points ahead of Barcelona, ​​has 2 goals more than Barcelona and has 2 goals less than the number of goals conceded by Barcelona. However, in terms of squad quality and depth, Barcelona is still better than Girona.

Moreover, Girona may soon face the reality that they will lose their place in second place if they lose their next matches against Rayo Vallecano and Mallorca. Girona's performance has decreased and Barcelona's performance has increased despite losing 5 points in their last 5 matches. Barcelona has a big chance of staying safe in the Champions League zone, but Xavi may need to improve his performance so he can continue to give his best until the end of the season.
264  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: February 20, 2024, 04:45:42 PM
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Inter have all the criteria for a team to win this match, they have managed to achieve consecutive wins in the Serie in the last six matches. The defense is very strong, the front line is very productive and what Atletico is most afraid of is that Inter has always won in the last five matches when playing at their home ground. This match will certainly take place with high tension, I really know Atletico's style of play, they always show rough play when they are under pressure.

Inter must be able to maintain the game in order to win, Atletico also wants the same thing. Anything can still happen as long as the match is still in progress, Atletico must be able to defend against attacks from Inter players.
Inter are indeed favorites at home at the moment, but we know that Atletico Madrid is a team that can be a threat to any team. Atletico Madrid's performance in the Champions League this season is not bad, they are unbeaten and are the second team with high goal productivity after Manchester City. Atletico Madrid's defense was also good in the group stages, but of course the pressure is increasing for any team that advances to the round of 16.

I tend to like Spanish football more than Italian. I hope this will be the most interesting match than other matches at the same time. Atletico Madrid could be the team that will win this match today, so Inter should need to increase their awareness of this potential.
265  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: February 20, 2024, 04:15:47 PM
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Manchester City have had a busy schedule recently because they have to catch up on their match deficit, starting with the first leg of the UCL match against Copenhagen, then Chelsea 4 days after and the upcoming match with Brentford. Even though their schedule is busy, the bookies still give them small odds, so far they have got @1.17 on Rollbit.

Since they really need 3 points here to keep up with Arsenal and Liverpool in the PL title race, I think they will win, not sure they can get a win with a 2 goal difference but at least they will get 3 points.
Low odds indicate that Manchester City is the favorite to win the match. Their match schedule is indeed busy and this means that some players are not fully fit to play other matches. Of course, fatigue will make Manchester City's performance not optimal, but as the defending champion and also the quality of its players, Manchester City is expected to be able to win its home match.

Brentford is unlikely to be able to beat Manchester City, who previously lost maximum points against Chelsea. Manchester City will ensure victory to gain tight competition with Liverpool with a difference of 1 point. They have to win this match so they can still hope to win the title at the end of the season.
266  Economy / Speculation / Re: 60k possible before end of this month? on: February 18, 2024, 10:17:59 PM
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With the high volatility of bitcoin, everything is possible to happen. But let’s not close the idea that if bitcoin will be able to hit $60k by the end of the month, then bitcoin will also not be free if ever there is sudden price correction in the market. For sure, bitcoin price will be affected with that. So let’s be open to both sides.

With regards to bitcoin reaching $500k, for me that’s too far to happen. We’ll discuss it maybe once bitcoin has already crossed the price of $100k which I think will definitely be happening soon or early next year.
$60k before the end of the month doesn't seem like a bad idea, but I'm inclined to believe the $60k was before the halving (whether someone agrees or not). However we only make predictions based on market sentiment and this may or may not be right. As long as we are holders, we will only get returns and the most important thing is that the target is achieved.

$500k is too high to be true, but $100k seems reasonable to expect as the new ATH after the halving. If the price of bitcoin can break the $100k level, then further possibilities can be expected. Of course, everyone expects prices to be higher year after year especially in bullish periods, but only the prices make sense.
267  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: STOP telling people how much Bitcoin you have on: February 18, 2024, 09:01:25 PM
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I agree with you that normally when people ask others this question “how much bitcoin do you own”, it’s almost always asked without malcontent. I think people ask me this question most often as they simply are just genuinely curious as well as perhaps they are interested in how much “faith” I actually have in Bitcoin. So I hear ya, but that said I think it’s important to stand your ground and explain “I don’t give out my financial information”.
Really, I agree with you. It is not mandatory to disclose how many assets we have to others and there is absolutely no point in telling people online about it. The threat may increase after we tell someone because no one can be trusted. Money is something sensitive and we know that everyone wants it, even a friend they don't need to be told how much we have.

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“I don’t give out my financial information”.
I get the point and agree with the idea.
268  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: February 18, 2024, 08:38:26 PM
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If we compare the recent performances of these two teams, Arsenal team can undoubtedly be put ahead. Arsenal have a strong squad. And they have performed very well in the last few matches. Several matches were won by large margins. The bonding between the players is also very strong. Porto's performance on the other hand has been erratic. And the performance of their attacking players is poor. It is difficult for Porto's players to score against a strong defence. This is why Arsenal is called the favorite.

Even then, any weak team can play well in home matches. A few days ago we saw Lazio win against a strong team like Bayern Munich. So Arsenal players must play very carefully. If Arsenal players play carefully then it will not be difficult for them to win against Porto.
I know Arsenal are favorites against Porto, but are you sure Porto doesn't want to win the match and qualify for the round of 16. Porto have so far proven themselves to be one of the contestants in the Champions League, having only suffered 2 defeats in the group stages. They have a good mentality to compete against Arsenal and Porto should not be underestimated in terms of their chances.

Porto's chances are certainly not as good as Arsenal's in the Champions League, but Porto is a team that has productive attackers. Porto scored 15 goals in 6 group stage matches, which is almost the same number of goals scored by Arsenal in the group stage. I can't necessarily underestimate Porto, especially at home, so I hope the first leg will be an interesting match.
269  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: February 18, 2024, 07:46:24 PM
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The result Man City vs Chelsea draw was well utilized by Arsenal. Currently they are able to be number two in the temporary rankings. Arsenal beat Burnley 5-0 and I saw Bukayo Saka perform very well. He managed to make 2 goals and became Man of the Match. Even if you look at the statistics in 2024, Bukayo Saka has played 5 times with 6 goals scored. Although it's not the end, at least ARsenal has proven again that they are one of the potential EPL champions.
Arsenal and Liverpool only made the most of their respective matches to win, while Manchester City gave them an advantage after failing to win their match against Chelsea the day after Arsenal and Liverpool won. Of course Manchester City didn't want to lose this opportunity to make their plans to lead the standings fail, but unfortunately Chelsea succeeded with their defensive game scheme.

Now, if Manchester City manages to win the postponed match against Brentford then the points gap between the top 3 teams will only be 1 each. Liverpool still leads 1 point ahead of Manchester City, as well as Manchester City and Arsenal. The pressure between the teams is increasing, it will be a very interesting season.
270  Economy / Speculation / Re: Who buys Bitcoin at $500k on: February 18, 2024, 07:00:38 PM
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Should we re-ask something that doesn't need to be thought about like the OP's question. I think it's strange to test one's logic when market participants ask other market participants.
Not all questions have to be answered, try asking a question once in a while. After all, this is not a logical question, just a fact to present the possibility of what will happen in the future.

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At any price that bitcoins get to, there will always be buyers. Not all buyers of bitcoins are buying to make profit from the Volatility, it has use cases as a currency too that some people are readily available to make use of instead of fiat.

At 50k, there will still be buyers, but definitely not so much as today or yesterday.
Of course, I've said that before.
Bitcoin is not only an investment asset or store of value, but is also used as a currency. It's up to you whether you adopt it as a primary currency (difficult) or an alternative for daily transactions, that's the use case.
271  Economy / Speculation / Re: Who buys Bitcoin at $500k on: February 17, 2024, 09:17:28 PM
My question is who buys Bitcoin at that price..?
Same question:

Who would buy bitcoin at $50k when price was under $5k in September 2017?

Me and other will probably answer: anyone can buy it especially since there are always traders and investors who will take advantage of its price volatility and also people who take advantage of real use cases.

So what's your answer?

Will the value of Bitcoin keep increasing after then?
Yes, it is possible, but there is no guarantee.
272  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Knowing when to own your bitcoin on: February 17, 2024, 08:47:09 PM
I'll go ahead and congratulate you, it's a great achievement and an over 2.5x return on your investment. I don't really care if the OP is lying or not, but I can understand why some are a little sceptical, because a few newbies had attempted to farm merit through their topics. Good luck to you and I hope you continue investing in Bitcoin.
It's hard to believe the story being shared, but if the story is true then he forgot that his financial privacy is now threatened. If someone who knew him in the real world knew how much money in assets he had, this would be a threat to him. But I think trusting the OP is as hard as trusting someone who just found out about bitcoin and then invested all their money in it.

I would never have dared to buy bitcoin with all my initial budget without considering the risks. Maybe other people are the same, even experienced investors will set aside some of their budget for a backup plan or something like that. But of course, we don't need to think about whether the story is true or not, bitcoin is a good investment asset for anyone who believes in its potential.
273  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: February 17, 2024, 08:25:16 PM
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I think, this match should be an easy match for Barcelona to beat Celta Vigo. Indeed, Barcelona are playing away but anyway, the reality is that Celta Vigo are also not having a good trend this season and likewise for Celta Vigo home matches which clearly have poor results . But ya, what happened in this match is that Barcelona still needed until the 90+ minute to be able to win this match. Because after all, even though Celta Vigo was still in a bad trend, but the reality was that Barcelona could still concede by Celta Vigo. So ya, although maybe Lewandowski can play quite well in this match, but if the results are like this it is clear that Barcelona still has problems that have not been well resolved, so it will certainly have a bad impact on Barcelona's performance.
I don't focus on the results but I watch the game. Barcelona fought until the last second to win the match, not an easy job when Celta Vigo also had the chance to score the winning goal. Barcelona's defense performed well in this match because it was able to thwart many opportunities for Celta Vigo to score goals, but Barcelona's attack seemed to be thwarted by Celta Vigo's defense.

Lewandowski almost failed to convert his penalty opportunity, but luckily the referee called for a re-penalty because the goalkeeper was outside his goal line when saving the ball. The second chance became a goal, but the referee confirmed the goal rather than giving a third chance even though the Celta Vigo goalkeeper made the same mistake.
274  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: February 17, 2024, 07:59:17 PM
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Kudos to Chelsea for putting in a superb performance against the defending champions of the league. They were able to defend their one goal till the 82nd minutes of the game after Rodri took a tremendous strike that went straight to hit one of Chelsea's defenders Dasisi into the back post of Chelsea's net.

A draw is a good result for both clubs as City struggled throughout before they were able to equalize the goal in the last ten minutes of the game. This season Chelsea was able to play City like no any other club and both matches ended draw at home and away.
Of course, Chelsea have extra motivation when they play against teams like Liverpool, Arsenal, Manchester City, Tottenham or Manchester United. Meanwhile, Chelsea appeared like a mediocre team against teams like Wolves, Brentford, Nottingham and others. I really didn't expect this draw because Manchester City's chances of winning their home game were very high, but what happened instead was a draw.

A draw not good for Manchester City, who hoped to lead the standings, but their plans were thwarted by Chelsea, who looked prestige to lose to Manchester City. Once again Manchester City lost points to their own former player, this time Sterling was the culprit.
275  Economy / Speculation / Re: Best time to buy BTC NOW? on: February 16, 2024, 10:22:58 PM
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Actually, other methods besides DCA also have their own security, but sometimes they are more burdensome when someone wants to do it. Because methods like DCA are usually a little easier and not so burdensome when someone wants to do it every month even though basically they have to use capital when they want to buy it. However, the DCA method can always be tricked with our own abilities, which basically don't have to be in large quantities.
DCA is just a strategy and usually each strategy has its own advantages and disadvantages. You may have missed the opportunity to buy $15k worth of bitcoin last year because of DCA, while you had enough budget to buy 1 bitcoin at a time. I don't blame you for using a different strategy than DCA to accumulate bitcoin, but DCA is certainly more suitable for those who can do it consistently.

DCA can allow you to avoid buying at high prices, while you can also avoid buying a lot at low prices. But all investors seem to be aware of that and perhaps they can adjust their strategies when needed.
276  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: February 16, 2024, 09:58:16 PM
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All teams certainly focus more of their strength on the Champions League because the Champions League is the most prestigious league. So, if you look at Leipzig chances, of course their chances of qualifying for the next round are quite small because in the first leg they lost and the second leg will definitely be more difficult for them because they are playing at the Bernabeu stadium.

Apart from that, another team that might also be an interesting discussion is Bayern munich. Because they lost the first leg of course they have to be able to win the second leg to maintain their chances of qualifying for the next round.

So for PSG they seem to be very strong and full of ambition in the Champions League this season. But PSG still needs to work hard for the second leg.
I would really be surprised if in the end Leipzig progresses to the next round by beating Real Madrid at the Santiago Bernabeu. Of course this is not desirable, especially because Real Madrid is the king of the Champions League, but playing at home is a big advantage for Real Madrid. Leipzig really made things difficult in the first leg and Real Madrid were lucky not to concede a goal until the end of the match.

Bayern Munich also has home advantage which allows them to appear more dominant than Lazio. Bayern Munich must ensure a home win in the leg to qualify for the quarter-finals, and that is a possibility that I think will happen in the second leg. Bayern Munich are still favorites even though they lost 0-1 in the first leg, they are certainly better than Lazio.

PSG must lock in its chances after winning 2-0 at home. Luis Enrique should not risk too many risks in the second leg by making several rotations, of course for me that is not a wise choice even though he is ahead. But PSG's chances are certainly better to qualify after having 2 goals in the first leg.
277  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: February 16, 2024, 09:49:26 PM
Liverpool will host Brentford tomorrow. The opponent is not very strong, but they are just above the relegation zone. It will be difficult for Liverpool to get points against them, but they should at least try their luck.
I don't think it will be too difficult, but Brentford might have good motivation because they are playing at home. Previously Brentford won their away game against Wolves, that was after two defeats to Tottenham and Manchester City. The match against Liverpool will be very tough for Brentford and I don't think they will have a chance of winning points even if they play at home.

Arsenal will travel to Burnley. Both teams will play matches where their opponents are not strong but they will need to take points if they want to stay in the league. I expect Arsenal and Liverpool to win the matches no matter what.
In the last match of the day, City will host Chelsea at home. Everyone will be waiting for the score of this match. It is also an important match for the course of the league. City are favorites against their opponent but may be tired of Europe. Chelsea may get a surprise draw.
For this week, Liverpool and Arsenal have a big chance of getting 3 points in their respective matches.
After all, Manchester City may be a little hesitant considering that Chelsea will also provide good resistance as before. Chelsea certainly doesn't have a big chance of winning in an away match, but considering that they were able to stop Manchester City with the previous score of 4-4, there is the potential for a different result than expected.

Personally, Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester City can win their respective matches. There are no changes in the top 3 and it will be very interesting to look forward to. If this scenario is true, then Manchester City will likely lead the standings with a gap of 1 point above Liverpool in the next match.
278  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Just hold in patience, nothing can stop the raging bull when it comes on: February 16, 2024, 09:25:07 PM
Every long-term investor knows that it is not the right time to sell Bitcoin, as there is a good chance that the price will rise. Therefore, whoever has not sold within 16 thousand dollars will not sell now and will definitely make profits. The strength of Bitcoin can wait. The longer you wait, the greater the chance that your investments will achieve a loss. Less and so on.
I advise your friends to think carefully before investing and to forget Bitcoin after buying it (I advise them to use a good wallet that has cold storage capabilities and that it is open source) and after more than 3 years they can safely sell their bitoin without loss.
I'm not sure about it, but did you write something wrong, or did I interpret it differently?
Bitcoin investment for the long term will be more profitable than short term and therefore it is advisable to buy and hold. Investors won't get rich overnight unless they know when $500M comes into the market before the pump starts. Of course they can take advantage of volatility to accumulate assets, but it may take a lot of effort and analysis so as not to lose due to volatility.

Buy now and sell later is highly recommended, especially when the desired target has been met. Its price could potentially reach $100k in the next bull run, some experts even predict it could reach $250k next year. It's too good to be true, so just maximize the opportunities first and reap the benefits later.
279  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How much knowledge is enough to satisfy an individual on: February 15, 2024, 09:00:04 PM
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Yep. It is the human nature that never feels satisfied. But this can be a positive or negative thing.

When it is about knowledge, it is a positive thing to never feel satisfied. This will trigger a person to always have the eager to learn and learn more. They will assume that they still have lack of knowledge and they need further lessons to have a better knowledge. People who has this characteristics will easily to develop, they will have a bigger chance to success. And people who feel this, they will never be arrogant people.

However, when it is about the money. Feeling always unsatisfied, seems a negative thing. This case happens when we are playing gambling. If we never feel satisfied to earn the money from gambling, then we will always use bigger and bigger money in gambling order to earn bigger money. This will give bad impact because it probably just waste money if we gamble with careless way.
Yes, never being satisfied knowing more is something that is considered positive. Knowledge will increase with learning and continuous learning will produce knowledgeable and capable individuals. It's better to spend a lot of money on your brain than your stomach and lifestyle, in the end they are won't get lost in the crowd or even in the middle of silence.

Stopping learning because you feel capable is a trap. The world will continue to progress and such people will only be left far behind others. Someone who is not learning about bitcoin today may be left behind when governments begin to adopt bitcoin in the future. They may learn, but after being forced by circumstances.
280  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin, 50k Done on: February 15, 2024, 08:47:49 PM
This is good, so far we have seen a break of the $52k resistance although currently the price is experiencing a slight decline. The good news is, we are only -25% away from the previous ATH at the moment and if this positive trend continues until the end of the month then $60k becomes possible.

It is only a matter of time until the price passes the previous ATH, but privately people tend to believe that the new ATH will not be hit before the halving. The current increase in demand can be said to be natural, investors are taking advantage of the momentum to buy a lot before the halving in the hope of getting worth it returns in the next few months.
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