What I did was I invested a small fraction of my portfolio in Verge and considered it as lost money. If you invest like 5 % of your networth into Verge, given the worst case scenario, your networth is 5 % smaller (which can be compensate with bitcoin alone in 1 day as it moves so violently some days). The best case scenario is that the 5 % invested into Verge and held a few years will be worth 90 % (or something like that) of your portfolio due to the ROI.  

Sure I will buy Monero if the price is right.
However, Monero is not worth 0.017 btc in my books.
I will not fall in love in my investments. I try to act rationally and so far it has paid off me well. I have gained some nice amounts of bitcoins with my flips.
It is easy to sell me a coin if the price is right and it has its advantages. I am open to new ways of making bitcoins/Verges. If Monero gets totally beaten I might buy some to gain more Verge.

You should not buy it then.... It will rise with or without you.

You do not need to wait for that since Verge already has that in place.
The only advantage Monero has over it is the size of the community but without any solid good news (not a fake pump) the price will stagnate and the community will look for better investment opportunities.
Something revolutionary should take place in Monerosphere to get any reason for a jump in the price. That's my opinion. Call me a troll/a retarded troll but I am personally looking for investment opportunities and I think Monero is severely overpriced given the state of the development... There are other coins that are far ahead and still have lower market cap.... 

Almost all the coins emitted + price per coin almost zero + growth of user base = parabolism.

Thank you for your kind words, guys. I am humbled to read them.
The majority lose money and the ones that are right usually face a lonely road because they do not go with the herd. Therefore, being right has its price. You get a lot of hatred from the people who chose to ignore you and not to make money - and they are 90 % of the people.
Probably that's one reason why the Jews are hated so much as well....?

That being said, to me Verge represents more growth potential that Pepecash did (which was my previous pick and when I reduced my exposure there it was up like 300+ % from 200-300 satoshis to 1000 satoshis). I have not followed Pepecash since then and I was thinking to put my profits into an anonymous currency like Monero but when I saw what has happened and the high price I decided to look for an alternative to Monero and found Verge.



Verge has quite realistic potential to reach 1 usd per coin - perhaps it happens when btc is 10 000 usd but still as Verge is trading literally in the fractions of pennies it has better expected value than bitcoin.
And still the majority of my holdings are in bitcoin but I am expecting the increase in the value of Verge making it my biggest investment.

I suggest anybody to hold minimum 1 million Verge when it hits 1 usd per coin. If you want to sell on the way up, then you just need to buy more coins now when they still are cheap. If you barely can afford to buy 1 million coins, then you just need some patience and live a bit in the roller coaster on the way up as the big holders will redistribute the coins.

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If you can afford to buy more than 1 million Verges and want to sell on the way up and take some profits, please do not dump them. Set asks and wait until someone will grab them. In this method you get the best price and it is also more likely that the price will reach 1 usd or more.

The majority of my bitcoins are in Trezor.
Some are in bitcoin denominated loans on Poloniex and only a small fraction of them are invested into Verge... However I expect a significiant growth on the former as people will be more aware of the importance of anonymity.

Monero has made its ATH last year. While chances are it will make it also this year (only ATH that matters is the ATH in terms of bitcoins because Monero is riskier than btc, therefore it is reasonable to expect more ROI from it), the ATH will not probably be like 10 X... Verge is not even realized its full potential with 100 X ROI... It is riskier though but I guess I am a bit risk taker if the possible payoff is decent.
The advantage of Monero is that the downside is not that much either, I think there will be a strong support on 0.01 btc while the strong support of Verge currently is lower than -30-> -50 % these days.

In 1 year I think it is very well possible to reach 1 usd/verge.
In the longer run, even higher.

I think Verge has excellent opportunity to first replace Monero (I am no longer interested into Monero - I bought early but lost my interest so far due to some mistakes that was done + the price growth potential in Monero is limited due to Risto's trading activity).

In terms of bitcoins, I am seeing it can reach 0.0001-0.001 levels realistically.

Verge has wallets, it is anonymous and it is cool. The only thing that it lacks is adaption and merchants, but I am expecting both of them to increase in the coming months.

Personally what I do with my Verge is I lend out money on Poloniex, then the interest payments will be used to buy some Verge so I am able to accumulate daily and I do not care much at what price since the interest income is "free bitcoins" in the first place to me. 

I am seeing this coin becoming TOP 5 cryptocurrency at some point.
I have been accumulating this coin recently and I feel pretty good about it.

There will be profit taking on the way up but the one that holds the coin the longest will make the best money in my opinion.

Verge is one of the most undervalued coins there right now and I am saying this despite the fact that the price has gone up like 35 times from the bottom.

I am considering actually making Verge my reserve currency where I store my profits from other venues.

Monero is failing big time and I had to find an alternative to it, and I am glad I found Verge... I think I will stick to this project a bit longer. 

At least my bitcoins are growing.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enldxJBsaes

Guys, how long do you think it will take until Verge will replace Monero? I think Verge has a good potential to become one of the TOP 5 cryptocurrencies.

The maximum number of coins will soon be hit, the price is low and it has all the wallets ready to serve you.

I think Verge is still pretty obscure.
When it comes to anon. coins people think first Dash... The minority mentions also Monero but not many even is aware of Verge. Therefore a coin like this could be a wild card. In crypto we have seen these things before.
I managed to get a few coins around the current price despite it has been rising quite violently. My current position is pretty modest though (represents only like 1-2 % of my crypto portfolio). If it drops I might adjust the allocation back in case the drop is due to some profit taking reasons etc.
The worst case scenario is that I lose 1-2 % of my crypto, the better scenario is that this increases my crypto portfolio many times and I will finally become as rich as Mr. Z'charja.

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Basically all Verge needs now is community and users. Wallets are ready already.
Therefore, the potential of Verge is the market cap of Monero (at least if not Dash').

Verge have had 3 pumps (the current one being the third) since the launch. Each of them giving higher highs... Just saying...

If you made money by shorting ETH you have deserved your prize.
Shorting a bullish coin like that requires iron balls.
The advantage of ETH is the fact that it has a nice volume.

Personally I am following Verge since I see a huge growth potential in it but the fact that the price of Verge has been rising makes it a little bit hard to buy since you think all the time it will drop and cannot buy ATM.
Verge is almost mined so it makes it appealing for long term investors as the inflation is limited. It is anon coin with all the nice wallets etc. Basically finished product but very cheap, in fact, severely underpriced (the coinmarketcap rank is currently 63).
We will see if I will ever can have any meaningful position in it.

You are right. I do not support it anymore at least on current prices.... It went too viral and I managed to rake some bitcoins out of it.
Unfortunately I wasn't able to make enough bitcoins to afford to buy these expensive Moneros so perhaps I need to find the next coin that is going to be pumped.

You are a braveheart when shorting Etherium.
They are speaking it all over now - even in the university of Helsinki.
The good thing about Etherium is that it has a strong emphasis on marketing and therefore I have faith into it for long haul. On the other hand, there might be a correction in Etherium at some point.

Dash is also interesting from this perspective as they realize the money comes from adaption and adaption only and therefore more people need to be aware of it.

Contrary to that, I have significiantly reduced my exposure on Monero during the pumps and I am not planning to rebuy unless the price will correct lower.
I do not say Monero cannot go slightly higher from here but I am saying the probability of 10 X is very unlikely any time soon (in terms of bitcoins). 2016 was awesome for Monero, probably it will never see similar growth anymore. The attitude towards user adaption in Monero community is something that concern me a lot. They don't seem to understand that people just do not come out of nowhere to buy Moneros + some serious PR issues from the CEO of Monero (Fluffy Pony).
Currently my holdings are mainly in bitcoins (+ some fiat and some gold bullion).

Ripple has also its strength (centrilized party who most likely wants it to grow + interest from the old school banking sector).
Litecoin might be a good bet or not, kinda tossing a coin.
Doge might pump and you make some money from it, I am not sure when it happens though.

In order to him getting the final remission from the trolls, the price need to establish 0.01 or below IMO.

You get the best bargain on Monero when nobody cares for this thread.
As long as the speculation thread is on the main page, Monero is definetely a good coin to sell/short.

It will eventually go down. It always does. 

Bitcoin probably is going to the moon soon so better to hold some bitcoins now, then convert them to fiat when landing on the moon and once the bear market hits bitcoin sphere, slowly increase your exposure first to bitcoin, then to Monero.
Do not worry, I will let you know when to buy bitcoins... Now just stack as much bitcoins as possible.

I hate the slowness of Poloniex sell order execution...   

I do not know how the smart contracts are working but there is so much mainstream hype around them that they must have something, it is not mere hot air.

Eth has a network effect.

If you read my posts more carefully I told that if you ignore my warnings and are going to pump Monero higher, I will dump on you guys.
I have not entered my buying zone, and it is significiantly lower... So many mistakes have been made with Monero PR during the past months that to correct them Monero should fall down on knees and stay there for a while to make a repentance, and then it might be ready to rise again.