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261  Other / Off-topic / Re: Can anti gamblers accept cash from gamblers when they're in dire financial needs on: May 29, 2024, 03:01:31 PM
Yes I understand that there are always some people who condemn gambling or who have a very bad stigma towards gambling so that they see a gambler as irresponsible or who has a very bad personality, but on the other hand I think it depends on the situation, if for example the situation is really very urgent which could cost someone's life if we don't immediately make a decision to take advantage of help from others then I think there is definitely nothing wrong with taking help money from others even though basically the money is the result of winning in gambling.
 
I think it's okay to take it because after all even though you have a very bad stigma against people who are involved in gambling but if it is only their help that can save someone's life then why not take quick action to utilize the help? What we have to see in this context is that even though they are a gambler but they have very good and sincere intentions to help you save someone's life.
262  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Greediness or Addiction -which one is more disastrous? on: May 29, 2024, 02:41:43 PM
There is nothing wrong with what the OP said, but maybe I will complement his idea that actually if we talk about gambling then addiction and greed go hand in hand or go hand in hand at the same time, and I would say that the name addiction is where when someone cannot escape from the activity and always wants to gamble because they want a situation where a dopamine explosion occurs in the brain that makes them feel very happy especially in the context of getting a win, and I will discuss again about greed which is where a gambler is unable to stop at the right time especially when they win, they have very high confidence and expectations so they always think that the winning situation is a good situation to take advantage of to get a bigger amount of winnings. So it means that addiction is a situation that makes it difficult for a person to resist the urge not to gamble and greed is something that triggers various excessive actions, meaning that these two things go together and are very bad indeed and can destroy our lives.
263  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Gambling A Hobby? on: May 29, 2024, 02:14:22 PM
Gambling as a hobby may not be bad. There are many people who gamble as a hobby. But if you take gambling as bad i.e. become addicted to gambling then it can become terrible for you.
So those who take up gambling as a hobby should gamble responsibly i.e. should not become addicted to it.
Gambling is like an addiction, the more you gamble the more addicted and addicted you become to gambling. Before gambling we must think that we can lose our money completely from this gambling. If everyone has this mentality then maybe he will play with responsibility and not get addicted to gambling.
When someone gets addicted to bad habits like gambling, he cannot get out of it easily. Gambling is such a bad habit I have seen some of my acquaintances who gamble regularly even when their family asks them to quit gambling, they quarrel ie they refuse to quit gambling.


In general, I would say that gambling is a separate class of hobbies that we all regard as a hobby.  This is a hobby that still forces a person to spend money in the long run.  But of course this does not happen to all players; there are also lucky ones who won a lot of money.  But the majority of players still pay for the pleasure and this money goes to the casino’s treasury. 
By the way, those hobbies for which you need to pay also include, for example, collecting all kinds of things or art objects.  And therefore, not all people can afford such a hobby.  Especially those who live so poorly that they simply cannot spend anything on gambling.

Yes or simply we can say that gambling is an expensive hobby that requires a gambler to always spend money if they want to do the activity in the long run, or as long as they want to stay involved in the activity. And yes it is true that everyone has their own luck in them that can lead them to victory at certain times that might make them manage to get a return or recovery from the amount of losses they have experienced. And actually I would say that it's fine to take up gambling as a hobby as long as you know and understand what gambling is all about as well as acknowledge and realize that gambling is an activity that requires us to spend money and also has the possibility of risks that can make us lose money.

Because this is what responsible gamblers do as we often mention where they gamble with the intention and purpose of filling empty time by looking for entertainment, and basically quite a lot of other activities or other hobbies that do require a person to spend personal money which is one of them as you mentioned such as collecting antiques or other hobbies, and as long as you have the ability to do it then no problem but it is also necessary to understand and know that something in excess is always not good, and this is what is made a limit so that our hobbies do not interfere with our lives in various aspects.
264  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How did/do you handled a gambling addict story. on: May 29, 2024, 01:45:31 PM
Gambling addiction can be very terrible and frustrating that it affects both your financial and emotional wellbeing.  There are lots of gamblers out there in the open struggling with gambling addiction  wishing to share their pains with someone who could understand, but they don't actually know the right person(s) to confide in about the pains they bear as they fear that they will be judged, criticized and the rest.

I had this conversation with a stranger today, he had to tell me a few things he's struggling with with his gambling habit and how he had tried to put an end to it but finds himself going back to same habits thereafter. And he felt that  talking to somebody about it will help his state but instead the person he felt comfortable talking to about was so judgemental towards him which had made him resort to self-help but nothing has really changed.

Has anyone gambling addict shared his situation with you and how did you handled it? please come clean about it let's learn from each other.

Being addicted to gambling is not immediately the first time you gamble today; you will be addicted tomorrow. It is not like that; before a gambler becomes addicted, it takes time. Apparently, he can lose a large amount at the casino before he becomes an addict.

That's why when a player becomes addicted to gambling, they don't immediately get rid of the addiction they have because their addiction already has a foundation. So giving up gambling or resigning from it will also go through the process.

I will confirm that what you said is true about gambling addiction, which is that yes gambling addiction does not occur immediately, or a beginner will not immediately experience addiction when they just start their gambling activities, in fact it takes time first at least a few weeks or months to develop their interest process in gambling which usually gambling addiction starts when a beginner manages to win in one of the sessions they do which makes them feel really happy, and when the victory occurs again then this is where the development of interest will increase which is most likely they will think that gambling is the right place to make money.

And in addition to that the situation of losing will not be too much of a problem for them because they are very confident that in the next few sessions they will definitely be able to win like before, but the fact is that things will not always be in their favor and when it turns out to lose again then they will start to be dominated by their own emotions and feel quite confused about the results where previously they won more often than lost and this is where the idea of chasing losses to restore losses will start. And I would say that it doesn't take too long to develop an addiction but it takes longer and is more difficult to cure the addiction and one of the difficulties is that they have to fight the belief in gambling and also have to resist all the urge to gamble when the urge of the hope of winning is always tempting and haunting the brain and mind.
265  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: People keep asking me to borrow money, some of them for betting on: May 29, 2024, 01:26:58 PM
Usually I always look first at the character and nature or personality of the person who wants to borrow money from me, if indeed they are one of my close friends then surely at least I know about the activities and habits along with the things he likes and this closeness can certainly give me a little idea about what the money will be used for if for example they do not say about the purpose of using the money they borrowed from me.

In short, I only dare to lend money to some of my close friends who have a good character and are responsible in social relations as long as I know them, but if it turns out that I know that he is a gambler then I usually don't lend a penny, not refusing but saying as the OP said that I don't have money, because after all, lending money to a gambler is likely that they will use the money for gambling, Although for example they say that they will be responsible and pay on time but I still refuse it, and that's because as we know that a gambler especially one who is quite addicted always prioritizes his gambling activities when they have some money, meaning that most likely when they have money then they will prefer to gamble the money rather than pay debts, and for this reason why I prefer to say that I don't have money, none other than because prevention is always better than cure.
That's basically the simplest way to go about when actually you want to lend out money for your friends and again one of the reasons why I really don't want to get involved in such habits is that most of my friends I know of won't even find it necessary to even give it back willingly on time and what I hate in my life is disappointment and I rather just stick the best and most simplest answer which NO than cause myself stress and pain by lending money.

Yes that's why I said earlier that I prioritize prevention, or better prevention than cure, because after all there are so many gamblers who beg and say they will be responsible when they want to borrow but it turns out that they don't pay on time or even they don't pay at all so we have to let it go, and obviously it can make us disappointed, and it's quite hurtful when we give help and give trust to others but they themselves don't know themselves.

On the other hand I'm not saying that all people are irresponsible, but with the number of cases or incidents that I've seen and experienced that people who have been involved in gambling usually don't have good responsibility in themselves. So obviously like you said that it's better from the beginning we say that we can't lend them money for whatever reason we have, don't let someone put their hopes in you, because when they have managed to borrow from you then one day they will definitely come again.
266  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling mistake repeated by the gamblers on: May 28, 2024, 01:41:29 PM

Greed in gambling doesn't end well most of the time. It doesn't mean we can aspire for bigger wins but we must learn to know when to walk away with our wins.

Also, greed makes people gamble with more than they're supposed to. It's common knowledge that the higher the stake, the higher the win, but we don't have to stake with more than we can afford to lose simply because we want to win big. 
When gamblers get greedy like this, they start to lose money, and that greed won't let them walk away because they want to win it back, by so doing they've started chasing their losses, and we all know how horrible things get when you've started chasing losses.
Yes, it's true that greed is the main factor that makes gamblers complain about losses because basically the bigger the win we hope for, the more we have to be prepared to accept large losses.
Greed is very difficult to avoid, especially if the person has won several rounds of the game in a row, so it will give rise to a high desire in the gambler that he will continue to win by assuming that luck is on his side.

This means that a gambler who always complains about his losses is a loser who always tries to make gambling a place to earn by always applying greed in every session they do, especially when they manage to win but unfortunately they cannot be responsible for their decisions which in the end when it turns out that the results are not in accordance with their wishes then they are disappointed or emotional and clearly this is a typical loser who only wants to win but is not ready for the fact of defeat, even though it is clear that however the possibility of defeat will always be a part of gambling that can never be avoided completely.

And I believe that a gambler who cannot ignore greed in himself is those who do not understand how gambling really is, most likely what they know is only the chances of winning in gambling but not paying attention to other possibilities such as defeat which will actually always be a part. This means that most likely those who will be able to ignore greed are those who only make gambling a place to have fun, because they know that it is too risky to do various actions that tend to be excessive in gambling.
267  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Gambling A Hobby? on: May 28, 2024, 01:19:27 PM

If we look on the definition of a hobby then gambling can be considered as hobby. As it is something people do regularly for enjoyment. For me, gambling is hobby, which I do rarely. But I never felt any kind of regret for money spend on it.

If you consider gambling as a hobby, I don't blame you for that, because each person's views will be different regarding the true meaning of gambling.
Indeed, for gamblers, gambling is part of their hobby because they do it continuously in their daily lives and whether there is a process of breaks interspersed with real activities, but basically gambling is a very risky action, if you consider gambling as a hobby then use your hobby. wisely and responsibly.

I just wonder why would you even blame me for having gambling as hobby, when you promote gambling in your signature yourself. Sometimes I find it hard to understand why people consider gambling as a hobby as something bad, when base or parachute jumping or mountain bike riding are far more dangerous and risky hobbies. Each hobby require expenses. Someone spend money on equipment, someone on making a deposit.

Haha actually I think there is absolutely nothing wrong with making gambling a hobby, and simply whatever your intentions and goals are if for example you are still able to control it well to avoid various bad possibilities that are not wanted so that everything runs balanced and stable then there is nothing wrong, because after all besides the negative impact of gambling also has a positive aspect that is when you are able to make it as one of the activities to fill your time when you are feeling bored without any activity and I also sometimes have gambling as one of my activities when I have boring free time.

As I said above that everything will still be fine if it is done in accordance with the rules that have always been advised by common sense, and as you said it is true that not all hobbies do not have risks, cycling, climbing mountains is a high-risk hobby that can sometimes be life-threatening when you are unlucky and also besides that you need to spend money to buy various equipment, but if you are able to treat it well and not overdo it then there is nothing wrong with it.
268  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How did/do you handled a gambling addict story. on: May 28, 2024, 12:36:29 PM
Has anyone gambling addict shared his situation with you and how did you handled it? please come clean about it let's learn from each other.

The stories and scenarios that you said are true in the gambling world and I think most gamblers have experienced it whether they are a listener or an addict looking for the right place to tell their story, and yes I also have one of my gambling partners who is my own friend but not too close to me, He talked about how he had lost two of his personal vehicles which he sold for gambling capital and afterwards regret dominated him and he also told me that he recently lost his gadget which he unconsciously damaged by throwing it against the wall due to losing a significant amount of money.

And I think we can already imagine how significant the pressure is that he's feeling, I really feel sorry for him because it's a really desperate situation, he wants to quit but it's hard. And to be honest I am one of those gamblers who has now recovered from addiction which I have my own method which is to always try to occupy myself with various other activities when my desire to gamble relapses, and also I block various accesses that can make it easier for myself to gamble such as blocking bank accounts and others, and this is a really effective way for me which in 2 months I managed to eliminate the desire to gamble along with the curiosity in me regarding gambling which is the method that I suggested to my friend by telling the steps slowly, and if you don't believe then please try this method, and let me know if this method works for you. Wink
269  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What are the limits and common sense of bet? on: May 28, 2024, 12:10:04 PM
I would never bet on something that involves love or feelings for other people. I just want to take it for fun, like betting on my favorite sports, and that's it. This kind of story is already out of the betting picture for responsible people. You can't do that against an innocent person because not only will you hurt them when they find out, but you also lose your credibility as a person. Love is supposed to be real, and no bets should be involved in it. I find this kind of scenario in movies, and I don't know if it happens in real life, but just like in the movies, it doesn't end well when the bets are exposed.



I agree with you, but many of my friends bet only on their favorite teams and their favorite players. And this is due to the fact that they say, "I don't care about money so much that I bet on the opponents of my favorite team." And the understanding of these guys is that victory can be complete and complete only if your favorite team won, and at the same time you had a bet on them.

I think it's normal, because there is always someone who prioritizes his favorite team over the possibility of losing or losing money, I think it's fine as long as they don't harm others, even though for example in terms of statistics his favorite team is faced with a much stronger opponent, and on the other hand I would not say that they are smart gamblers but maybe more precisely they are gamblers who are loyal to their favorite team so that even though for example the chances of winning are small they still choose their favorite team.

But this kind of mindset can be dangerous if they have an overly aggressive approach to gambling, such as betting too large amounts of money or taking risks that exceed their limits, because of course prioritizing loyalty to the favorite team but together with betting an amount that is beyond their limits in the end it will only make them experience financial problems, especially if the scenario is like what I said above when the favorite team is faced with a more statistically sound enemy outside of the aspect of luck.
270  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: People keep asking me to borrow money, some of them for betting on: May 28, 2024, 11:43:29 AM
Usually I always look first at the character and nature or personality of the person who wants to borrow money from me, if indeed they are one of my close friends then surely at least I know about the activities and habits along with the things he likes and this closeness can certainly give me a little idea about what the money will be used for if for example they do not say about the purpose of using the money they borrowed from me.

In short, I only dare to lend money to some of my close friends who have a good character and are responsible in social relations as long as I know them, but if it turns out that I know that he is a gambler then I usually don't lend a penny, not refusing but saying as the OP said that I don't have money, because after all, lending money to a gambler is likely that they will use the money for gambling, Although for example they say that they will be responsible and pay on time but I still refuse it, and that's because as we know that a gambler especially one who is quite addicted always prioritizes his gambling activities when they have some money, meaning that most likely when they have money then they will prefer to gamble the money rather than pay debts, and for this reason why I prefer to say that I don't have money, none other than because prevention is always better than cure.
271  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Day streaming as gambler experience on: May 27, 2024, 02:36:13 PM
Let’s just accept the reality that gambling will always be bad for those who actually don’t understand the nature of gambling. But for us who see the benefits of gambling, we have all the freedom to promote as long as it’s done responsibly and cautiously, meaning not tempting the minors to do gambling unless they have reached their maturity age and not encouraging the gamblers to fall into gambling addiction knowing it can never be good at all.
That's a very good point you just said above, and I agree with you 100%. However, in regards to what you just said, an idea just came to my head that it will be good if O.P could also boldly writes on his Livestream that it's strictly for people 18yrs and above, and also on his "About Page" of whatever platform he may be is using for Livestream. So as to save as a warning that his Livestream age limit, and stands the chance of winning whatever case if eventually he is been accused for misleading kids into gambling.
Yes, this can be done as defense material if we stream, so we have given advice or prohibitions to children who have not yet reached the age of majority or are minors. However, this may only apply in certain countries that legalize gambling, but for countries that prohibit gambling, this advice will have no effect at all when they are caught in a case.

I also occasionally watch live streams from local streamers in my country, and I also see that they don't show anything about themselves, and usually they wear a mask.

I actually don't know for sure what their live scheme is like, unlike Drake for example, who is clearly an ambassador for Stake. But in my country (local streaming), it even promotes sites that are not well known at all. Maybe there is a difference between large gambling sites and small gambling sites.
272  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: May 27, 2024, 02:17:23 PM


There is a big match today which will bring together hosts Al-Nassr who will face Al-Ittihad. This will also be a battle between Ronaldo and Benzema, who previously played together for Real Madrid. This will be an exciting game at the end of the season and who wins will also be quite difficult to determine.

It is possible that Al-Nassr is quite favored not only to be the host, but with their current performance, Al-Ittihad will not actually be a serious threat. But in the last match, Al-Ittihad was able to win big against Damac and of course they will be an opponent that Al-Nassr is quite wary of. However, one thing is certain: Al-Ittihad must win if they want to get a play-off place in the Asian Champions League next season and currently they are 2 points behind Al-Taawoun. So who do you think will win in today's big match?
This is the last match of the week in the Saudi Pro League. Al Nassr will face Al Ittihad where both have good players, and they even achieved success together while wearing Real Madrid uniforms, yes, that is Ronaldo and Benzema. However, I am a little doubtful that they will go all out in this match or not, because both of their positions are locked, except for Al Ittihad, and that is if Al Taawon loses and they win.

However, it is also quite interesting to see a match like this, because we will see the second match at the end of this season. At least we can see a little entertainment at the end of this season, because we will certainly not see any interesting matches for a long holiday.

Al Nassr are favorites and also have the advantage in this match, because they will play as hosts. This is an opportunity for them to present their victory, before they play the final match in the King's Cup against Al Hilal.
273  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: May 27, 2024, 01:53:07 PM
It is rumored that Napoli wants Gasperini, but from several media that I have read, you are right if Gasperini has reportedly said that he will stay with Atalanta next season. Gasperini achievments for UEL title for Atalanta will start to attract the attention of European clubs. Those who initially didn't believe Gasperini, now will consider about him. In history, only Inter Milan has ever made him a coach from a top club. Now, maybe other top clubs will start to make him as their clubs, because he can bring an ordinary Atalanta squad to get UEL title.
This is like a snowball, I mean the rumors circulating are getting more and more unclear. I mean right now Napoli are also rumored to be with Conte, but on the other hand there are lots of media who say they are interested in the Atalanta coach, on the other hand we hear news that Atalanta will still be with their current coach for next season.

Despite all the rumors, I hope they can get the best, both for the coach and for the club itself. Next season is an important season, if Gasperini is still with Atalanta, there will be a lot of hope for him to be able to provide an even better performance. Also for Napoli, this season they performed very badly, so if they get a new coach, it is hoped that the coach will improve the club's performance even better. They must be careful in appointing a coach, and they must not rush because a new coach will need time to adapt and learn the qualities of the squad they have.
274  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: May 27, 2024, 12:54:41 PM
In the final match, anything is still possible to happen and we have just seen the Europa League final match which was full of surprises when Leverkusen, who were the favorites, actually lost with a landslide score, as did Dortmund and Real Madrid in the final match this weekend. allows it to happen.
I think there are only a few people who favor Real Madrid too much and I think Real Madrid is a big team that is often in the final and they know what they have to do in the final.
Real Madrid will actually be more dangerous when they reach the final so I wouldn't think that Real Madrid would suffer the same fate as Bayer Leverkusen in the Europa League. However, I am also looking forward to an interesting match that can be watched by many people at the end of this season because I am quite sure that the Champions League final is a match that is eagerly awaited by many people, including fans of the two teams. So I don't think that in that match there will be any surprises like what happened in the Europa League this season because I am more imagining how fierce the final match will be for Real Madrid and Dortmund.
There is no doubt that Real Madrid is a very dangerous club in final matches, if in regular matches they are good, in final matches they will be much better. I can say that because I saw their history when they were in finals, especially in the Champions League final. Anyone who sees Real Madrid will say that Real Madrid will win this final match.

But they shouldn't have too much self-confidence, self-confidence is a good thing, but I mean they shouldn't be over-confident, because that might destroy them. Even though Borussia Dortmund are not the favorites, that doesn't mean they will just give up on Real Madrid so that Real Madrid can easily win this final match. The coach will definitely rack his brains so that the strategy he implements can be applied well by his team and can also be effective in suppressing Real Madrid.
275  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: May 27, 2024, 12:34:30 PM
This is the 4th season for Manchester City to defend the Premier League title, will they be able to defend it next season? I can't predict this with certainty, because in the Premier League it will be very difficult to predict, because the league is very competitive. However, if you look at their performance this season, in my opinion their performance has dropped a little and maybe next season it can be more than this.

One thing I see from them, they have a strong foundation, so that's good for them, so to compete I think they can still compete, but to be able to defend the title I can't predict with certainty. because next season I think several clubs will be able to improve, and one of them is Arsenal where every season they continue to improve and it is not impossible that next season they will be much better than this season. Chelsea is also showing improvement, maybe they will be a threat next season if they succeed in improving their performance.
276  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: May 27, 2024, 12:21:05 PM
The last match in Serie A this season will be between Atalanta and Fiorentina... Atalanta are already Europa League champions... Fiorentina have their final match in the Conference League coming up... Both clubs have performed very well this season and achieved good results in the European Leagues... It will be interesting if Fiorentina also become champions... Then this match will be between the two champions, the Italian Super Cup... Grin
Atalanta no longer has a moral burden now, because they have been successful in the Europa League and they are also in 4th place in the Serie A standings, so any results will not have an effect on Atalanta, only a win can put them in 3rd place in the final standings. Maybe they will try to catch up to that in their final game in Serie A.

Meanwhile, Fiorentina still has a final match in the Conference League, so they will focus on that final match in my opinion. Because in Serie A itself it will no longer affect them, whether they win or when they lose. So the Conference League will be a priority for Fiorentina. This match will also come before their last match in Serie A, so there is no reason for them not to focus on this match. They must take advantage of their last opportunity this season by successfully becoming champions in the Conference League.
277  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: May 27, 2024, 12:10:38 PM
Another trophyless season for Atletico Madrid has been left behind. The last one they got was a La Liga trophy in the 2020/2021 season. I know it isn't an easy task to achieve this title while there are really competitive opponents such as Real Madrid, Barcelona and even Girona this season. But at least Simeone can win side trophies like Copa del Rey and so on (I'm not including ones like Champions League into side trophies of course. Grin).

But the board are still contented with Simeone as they have signed a contract extension until 2027. He is in his 13th year with the team which is really a huge number. I'm curious about how many more years this will go on.
Atletico Madrid still has confidence in Diego Simeone, it seems they don't want to take the risk of firing him and replacing him with a new coach. I can understand that, because when they have to work with a new coach, there is definitely an adaptation process that must be gone through, and there may also be big changes according to the coach's needs. And all this also cannot guarantee that they will be better, and does not rule out the possibility that everything will get worse.

It seems like they are still quite satisfied with being in the top 4, even though they didn't win the La Liga title, but at least they can still secure a place to play in the Champions League next season. Diego Simeone should also be able to respond to the trust that management has placed in him by showing an even better game. Indeed, this is something that is not easy to do, and I am also sure that he is trying to do his best, but maybe there are problems that prevent them from being optimal.
278  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: May 27, 2024, 12:00:35 PM
Even though they had experienced a difficult season, Lyon still failed to win the only title they could get this season. This is all because PSG continues to dominate all competitions in France and Lyon does not even have the opportunity to experience the Coupe de France title.

If only Lyon won the title, I think they would have additional motivation after everything that happened this season and that would improve the mentality of all the players to be better in welcoming the upcoming season. It was unthinkable that Lyon would experience such a deadlock that they would change coaches this season and perhaps management should really pay more attention to bringing in new players in the summer market so that they can be more competitive with other teams from the start of the Ligue One season.
It is very difficult for Lyon to win in the French Cup final match, because the opponents they face are also the best clubs in France, so their defeat in this final match is something that has been predicted and it is very natural because on paper they are not any better. from Paris Saint Germain.

They have nothing to regret, because their opponents are very strong, unless their opponents are relatively easy clubs, so they can regret that. Disappointment is something that is very natural, because anyone who loses in the final match will definitely feel disappointed because they failed to win the title. But they don't have to think about it for too long, what they have to think about is how they can be better in the next season, because next season does not rule out the possibility that they will be able to pay for their failures this season. they have to focus on that, and get back to preparing their squad and strategy for next season.
279  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: May 27, 2024, 11:48:10 AM
Next season is a very important season for them, because I think there are so many people waiting for them next season. There are many people who want to see what they can do next season, especially in the Champions League. People's expectations of them are getting bigger and bigger, and they have to answer all these expectations with good performance and be able to compete in the highest competitions in Europe.
It would be a shame if we see something again what happend to Union Berlin this season , that they will be the total opposite next season.
But i guess that this will be not the case in Leverkusen , fingers crossed.
I think that they show us some nice good performance again next season.
But the most focus of all the players are next is the coming EM for those that playing it.
There are several clubs that we can see where they failed in their second season after they had a very good season, but in my opinion this is different for Leverkusen, because they have good chemistry, and we can see from the composition of players that it is actually not that luxurious, in fact Players who were dim can actually return to their best performance, so that can also be an asset for them in the following season.

Moreover, Xabi will also remain with them, Xabi should now understand the character of the players he has much better. If he can understand this very well, then he will be able to maximize the player's potential. He also has the opportunity to add several players who can help them next season. However, Xabi also has to be astute in looking at the players he will bring in, he has to be truly effective in recruiting players according to the needs of the squad.
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That's not confirmed yet but it seems this time Saudis are trying to hire a bigger superstar player and they do not even have any limitations for ending offers for these players, unlike the European teams.
Kevin De Bruyne was the key player for Mancnshte City and he had an effective role in this team to make Manchester City try keeping him for a longer time but other than this, the Saudis are again trying to hire Kevin De Bruyne for their team.
It seems his agents are in Saudi Arabian since he is a 32-year-old player maybe he is thinking about ending his career in this country.


De Bruyne is undoubtedly an important player in Guardiola’s team, but the last season was not the best for him, at first he missed a lot due to injury, and he was unable to return fully, and Guardiola often changed him without allowing him to finish the whole match, that is, this shows that he is not that important for City now, or Guardiola is just trying to show that there are no irreplaceable players in his team. 32 years old is not so young anymore, of course he can play for a few more years, but perhaps he will think about how to ensure a comfortable life, in these few years, as long as he can play.
Kevin de Bruyne is one of the mainstay players for Manchester City, his role in midfield is very pronounced because he can be creative in building attacks. However, he had to suffer an injury and it had a slight effect on his performance, although overall it didn't have much of an impact, but still the decline was felt a little for Manchester City.

I don't know yet if he still wants to play in Europe or if he will spend his time outside Europe and prefer to earn big money at the end of his career. Actually, he is not that old now, he can still give his best game in my opinion. However, if he wants to earn a large income, then the Saudi Pro League will also be an option for him, especially since there are also many players who have joined first. He has to think about this carefully, because when he goes to Arabia and if he wants to go back to Europe I think it will be a little difficult, so he can consider it first.
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