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261  Local / Alternatif Kripto-Paralar / Uber Kurucusundan Dev Kripto Para Hamlesi on: March 03, 2018, 06:43:00 PM
Uber kurucularından Garrett Camp kendi kripto parasını geliştireceğini duyurdu. Camp “ECO” ismini verdiği kripto paranın yıl sonunda piyasaya sürüleceğini ve tüm gündelik işlemlerde kullanılmaya uygun olduğunu kaydetti.

Son zamanlarda medyada Camp’in Uber’deki çalışmalarına geçici olarak ara verdiği ve “ruhunu yeniden keşfetmek” için Afrika’yı gezdiği konuşuluyordu. Ancak Garrett’ın birkaç aydır yeni bir dijital para projesi üzerinde çalıştığı ortaya çıktı. ECO’nun, ethereum ve bitcoin gibi rüştünü ispatlamış kripto paralarda rastlanan sorunlara çözüm getireceği konuşuluyor.

Halen daha yalnızca tasarım aşamasında olan proje için Camp kripto para uzmanı ve blockchain araştırmacısı arayışında. Kodlama kısmına güçlü bir proje ekibi oluşturulduktan sonra geçilecek. Neden daha önce var olan bir projeyi desteklemek yerine kendi kripto parasını geliştirmek istediği sorulan Camp’in bu soruya verdiği cevap hayli ilginç:

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“Kripto paralara dair araştırmalarım derinleştikçe büyük miktarda kripto para alma isteğim azalıyordu. Farklı bir felsefi bakış açısına sahip ve üniversiteler, bilim insanları ve araştırma enstitülerinin katkıda bulunduğu – tıpkı İnternet gibi – yeni bir proje başlatmanın daha iyi bir fikir olduğu kanısına vardım.”

Uber kurucularından Garrett Camp kendi kripto parasını geliştireceğini duyurdu. Camp “ECO” ismini verdiği kripto paranın yıl sonunda piyasaya sürüleceğini ve tüm gündelik işlemlerde kullanılmaya uygun olduğunu kaydetti.
Son zamanlarda medyada Camp’in Uber’deki çalışmalarına geçici olarak ara verdiği ve “ruhunu yeniden keşfetmek” için Afrika’yı gezdiği konuşuluyordu. Ancak Garrett’ın birkaç aydır yeni bir dijital para projesi üzerinde çalıştığı ortaya çıktı. ECO’nun, ethereum ve bitcoin gibi rüştünü ispatlamış kripto paralarda rastlanan sorunlara çözüm getireceği konuşuluyor.

Halen daha yalnızca tasarım aşamasında olan proje için Camp kripto para uzmanı ve blockchain araştırmacısı arayışında. Kodlama kısmına güçlü bir proje ekibi oluşturulduktan sonra geçilecek. Neden daha önce var olan bir projeyi desteklemek yerine kendi kripto parasını geliştirmek istediği sorulan Camp’in bu soruya verdiği cevap hayli ilginç:

“Kripto paralara dair araştırmalarım derinleştikçe büyük miktarda kripto para alma isteğim azalıyordu. Farklı bir felsefi bakış açısına sahip ve üniversiteler, bilim insanları ve araştırma enstitülerinin katkıda bulunduğu – tıpkı İnternet gibi – yeni bir proje başlatmanın daha iyi bir fikir olduğu kanısına vardım.”

ECO ve vadettikleri

ECO whitepaper’ının ilk hali şimdiden yayımlandı. Whitepaper’da ECO’nun temel işlevlerinden ve kripto para dünyasının birkaç temel sorununa getireceği çözümlerden bahsediliyor. ECO’nun söz sahibi olduğu alanlara kısa kısa göz atalım..

Güvenlik. Yayınlanan whitepaper’a göre ECO platformunda işlemlerin onayı “doğrulanmış node”lar tarafından yapılacak. Halihazırda bitcoin ağında node çalıştıran kişiler işlemleri bağımsız olarak onaylayabiliyor. Doğrulanmış node’ların devreye girmesiyle bu sorun tarihe gömülüyor.

Token politikası. Projeye yatırımcı çekmek adına geliştirilen modelde her kullanıcının başlangıç olarak 1 trilyon ECO coin’i olacak. Yalnızca bu model bile ECO’nun oldukça yatırımcı dostu bir proje olduğunu ortaya koyuyor. ECO’da dolar çevrim oranının da büyük ihtimalle düşük olacağı düşünülüyor.

Erişim ve kullanım. Hem bilgisayar hem de akıllı telefon uygulamasında aktif olacak ECO kullanıcılarına yüksek seviyede kullanışlılık vadediyor. Piyasa gurusu da sıradan yatırımcı da ECO’da aradığını bulacak.

Bunların yanı sıra ECO  ekosisteminde madencilere yer yok. Dolayısıyla proje en başından itibaren çevre ve enerji dostu olmasıyla dikkatleri çekiyor.

Gelecek planları: ECO yol haritası


Projenin başındaki isim Garrett Camp’in öncelikli planı ilk node’ların düzgün bir şekilde çalışmasını sağlamak ve node’ların kapasitesini belirlemek. Camp bu doğrultuda dünyanın en prestijli üniversiteleri ve blockchain araştırma enstitüleri ile işbirliği yapmayı planlıyor. Buna ek olarak platformda teşvik/ödül modeli benimsenecek. Buna göre Eco node’larının finansal işlemlerden oluşan bloğu her doğrulayışında node sahibi kullanıcı ödül kazanacak.

ECO bitcoin’i geride bırakabilir mi?

Herkesin aklında ECO’nun ne kadar başarılı olabileceği ve bitcoin’le ethereum’u ne kadar zorlayabileceği sorusu var. Platformun başlangıç olarak iyi emareler taşıdığı rahatlıkla söylenebilir. Uber gibi devrim niteliğinde bir platformun yaratıcılarından Camp’in proje başında oluşu hiç şüphesiz ki ECO’ya dair büyük merak uyandırıyor. Bununla birlikte 2009’dan beri birçok geliştiricinin bitcoin mantığından yola çıkarak kendi blockchain’ini geliştirdiğine şahit olduk ve bu projeler çoğu yalnızca belirli bir kitleye hitap etti. Ancak pilot koltuğunda bu sefer Uber kurucusunun olması projenin başarısına yönelik umutları artırıyor.

Şayet her şey planlandığı gibi giderse 2019’un başlarında ECO’nun test ağı tam randımanlı bir şekilde çalışmaya başlayabilir. Sabırsız yatırımcılar ise şimdiden şirketin web sitesindeki kayıt formunu doldurup tercih ettiği kullanıcı adını seçebilir ve ücretsiz token kazanabilir.

Source: https://coin-turk.com/uber-kurucusundan-dev-kripto-para-hamlesi
262  Local / Alternatif Kripto-Paralar / Bankaların Ripple İlgileri Devam Ediyor on: March 03, 2018, 06:40:55 PM
Güney Kore merkezli banka Woori Bank uluslararası havale işlemlerinde ripple ile çalışacaklarını duyurdu. Piyasanın önde gelen kripto paralarından birisi olarak bilinen ripple kullanıcılarına kolaylıklar sağlayan ve kripto paralara dayanan hızlı bir ödeme altyapısıyla dikkatleri çekiyor.

Woori Bank bünyesinde faaliyetlerine devam eden Dijital Strateji Departmanı geçtiğimiz Ocak ayından itibaren yürüttüğü “işlem gerçekleştirme testlerini” başarılı bir şekilde sonlandırdı. Bu denemelerden olumlu sonuçlar alan banka ripple teknolojisini dünya çapında gerçekleştirilecek havale işlemlerine uygulamayı düşünüyor.

Banka tarafından gerçekleştirilen bu denemeler Japonya merkezli büyük bir proje kapsamında gerçekleştirildi. Aralarında SBI Group gibi Japonya’nın ileri gelen kurumlarının da bulunduğu 37 farklı kuruluş ripple’ın havale testine dahil oldu.

Büyük bir çoğunluğu blockchain teknolojisine dayandırılan havale işlemlerine olan ilgileriyle bilinen bu kuruluşların büyük bir kısmını Japonya merkezli bankalar oluşturuyor. Faaliyetlerine Japonya’da devam eden ve uluslararası boyutta gerçekleşen ödemeler için alternatif yollar arayan bu bankalar ripple ağının altyapısının “oldukça iyi tasarlanmış” olduğuna işaret ediyorlar.

Güney Kore’nin ikinci en büyük bankası olarak bilinen Shinhan da bu bankalarla aynı görüşü paylaşıyor. Bir diğer Güney Kore bankası Woori Bank’ın çatısı altında çalışan yetkililer tarafından yerel haber kaynaklarına yapılan açıklamalar şu şekilde:

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“Test sürecinin ardından elde edilen sonuçlar beklenen yönde ve güzel olduğu için Japonya sınırlarındaki birçok bankanın bu projeyle ilgilendiğini ifade edebiliriz. Hatta büyük bankalardan birkaçı uygulamaya geçmeye hazırlanıyor.”

Güney Kore merkezli banka Woori Bank uluslararası havale işlemlerinde ripple ile çalışacaklarını duyurdu. Piyasanın önde gelen kripto paralarından birisi olarak bilinen ripple kullanıcılarına kolaylıklar sağlayan ve kripto paralara dayanan hızlı bir ödeme altyapısıyla dikkatleri çekiyor.
Woori Bank bünyesinde faaliyetlerine devam eden Dijital Strateji Departmanı geçtiğimiz Ocak ayından itibaren yürüttüğü “işlem gerçekleştirme testlerini” başarılı bir şekilde sonlandırdı. Bu denemelerden olumlu sonuçlar alan banka ripple teknolojisini dünya çapında gerçekleştirilecek havale işlemlerine uygulamayı düşünüyor.

Banka tarafından gerçekleştirilen bu denemeler Japonya merkezli büyük bir proje kapsamında gerçekleştirildi. Aralarında SBI Group gibi Japonya’nın ileri gelen kurumlarının da bulunduğu 37 farklı kuruluş ripple’ın havale testine dahil oldu.

Büyük bir çoğunluğu blockchain teknolojisine dayandırılan havale işlemlerine olan ilgileriyle bilinen bu kuruluşların büyük bir kısmını Japonya merkezli bankalar oluşturuyor. Faaliyetlerine Japonya’da devam eden ve uluslararası boyutta gerçekleşen ödemeler için alternatif yollar arayan bu bankalar ripple ağının altyapısının “oldukça iyi tasarlanmış” olduğuna işaret ediyorlar.

Güney Kore’nin ikinci en büyük bankası olarak bilinen Shinhan da bu bankalarla aynı görüşü paylaşıyor. Bir diğer Güney Kore bankası Woori Bank’ın çatısı altında çalışan yetkililer tarafından yerel haber kaynaklarına yapılan açıklamalar şu şekilde:

“Test sürecinin ardından elde edilen sonuçlar beklenen yönde ve güzel olduğu için Japonya sınırlarındaki birçok bankanın bu projeyle ilgilendiğini ifade edebiliriz. Hatta büyük bankalardan birkaçı uygulamaya geçmeye hazırlanıyor.”

Şirketin kripto parası XRP geçtiğimiz Ocak ayında tüm zamanların en yüksek değerine ulaşmayı başararak ethereum’un sahip olduğu piyasa değerini geride bırakmıştı. Ancak XRP zaman içerisinde büyük bir değer kaybı yaşadı. Bu değer kaybına rağmen geçtiğimiz ay Ripple şirketi için oldukça başarılı geçen bir ay olarak yorumlanabilir.

Şirket geçtiğimiz Şubat ayında uluslararası fon transfer platformu Western Union ile bir anlaşma sağlamıştı. Buna göre Western Union tarafından yapılacak uluslararası fon transfer işlemleri ripple teknolojisiyle daha hızlı ve ucuz hale gelecek.

Source: https://coin-turk.com/bankalarin-ripple-ilgileri-devam-ediyor
263  Local / Bitcoin Haberleri / Bitcoin’de İşlem Ücretleri Düşüyor on: March 03, 2018, 06:39:26 PM
Piyasanın lider kripto para borsaları Binance, Kraken ve Bitfinex bitcoin çekim ücretlerinde indirime gitti. İndirim trendi 1 Mart’ta Bitfinex’in çekim ücretini 0.0006 BTC’ye indirmesiyle başladı. Daha sonra Binance bitcoin çekim ücretini yüzde 50 azalttığını ve indirimle birlikte ücretin 0.0005 BTC olduğunu duyurdu. Kraken de yaptığı indirim açıklamasıyla bu borsalara katıldı.
Son olarak Bitfinex dün yeni bir indirim kararı aldı ve resmi Twitter hesabından şu duyuruyu yaptı:

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“BTC çekim ücretlerinde bundan böyle geçerli olacak ek %33.3 indirimden ötürü ilerisi için oldukça heyecanlıyız. Bitfinex’te BTC çekim ücreti şimdi yalnızca 0.0004 BTC.”

Piyasadaki genel kanı, işlem ücretlerinde yapılan indirimlerin sebebinin SegWit yükseltmesi olduğu yönünde. Segregated Witness (SegWit) bitcoin protokolünün ölçeklendirilmesini kolaylaştırıyor. Üç borsa arasında en düşük çekim ücretine sahip borsa Bitfinex. Borsa 20 Şubat’ta daha düşük bitcoin işlem ücretlerine ve daha hızlı işlemlere önayak olacak SegWit’i aktive ettiğini açıklamıştı.

Öte yandan Bitfinex CTO’su Paolo Ardoino geçtiğimiz günlerde şöyle konuştu:

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“Bitfinex kendini sadık ve anlayışlı müşterileri için piyasayı olgunlaştırıcı teklifler sunmaya adamıştır. SegWit’le birlikte bitcoin çekim ücretlerinde %20’ye varan indirim yapacak ve müşterilerimize hiç olmadığı kadar hızlı işlemler sunacak olmaktan ötürü çok mutluyuz.”
Bitfinex’in tweet’ine gelen yorumlardan biri oldukça dikkat çekici. Steve Chatter isimli takipçi ağın hashrate’inin 20E olduğunu ve bu değer düştüğünde ücretlerin tekrar yükseleceğini savunuyor. İndirimlerin SegWit’le alakalı olmadığını düşünen Chatter Bitfinex’in SegWit’i yalnızca kendi reklamını yapmak için kullandığı iddiasında.

Josh Stevens isimli kripto para yatırımcısı ise bu üç borsa arasındaki rekabete dikkat çekerek Binance ve Kraken’in yeni bir indirim hamlesinde bulunabileceğini öne sürüyor.

Source: https://coin-turk.com/borsalardan-bitcoin-ucretlerinde-indirim
264  Bitcoin / Press / [2018-03-03] Government-Approved Crypto Exchanges in Japan on: March 03, 2018, 06:35:40 PM
16 cryptocurrency exchanges that have been approved by the Japanese government are teaming up to form a self-regulatory group, following the hack of one of the country’s most popular exchanges. Besides these exchanges, there are 16 “quasi-operators” for cryptocurrencies as well as about 100 firms seeking to enter the market in Japan.

Exchanges Forming Self-Regulatory Body

Japan currently has no self-regulatory body. However, following the major hack of one of the country’s most popular crypto exchanges, the need for self-regulation in the country has elevated. Coincheck was hacked for 58 billion yen (~USD$530 million) worth of the cryptocurrency NEM in January. Following the hack, the Japanese Financial Services Agency (FSA) started scrutinizing all exchanges operating in the country. The agency also urges industry players to adopt self-regulation standards.

16 crypto exchange operators are currently fully approved by the FSA. All crypto exchanges are required by the revised payment services act, which went into effect in April of last year, to register with the agency.

The exchanges announced on Thursday, as reported by Reuters:

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Japan’s 16 government-registered cryptocurrency exchanges will set up a self-regulatory body to bolster trust in an industry rocked by a $530 million digital money heist in January.

While neither the name of the new organization nor the date of registration with the FSA has been announced, sources told the news outlet that “the body would be set up this spring.”

Japanese Exchanges Participating

The FSA started issuing licenses to crypto exchange operators in the second half of last year. Eleven were approved in September: Money Partners, Quoine, Bitflyer, Bit Bank, SBI Virtual Currencies, GMO Coin, Bittrade, Btcbox, Bitpoint, Fisco Virtual Currency, and Zaif. In early December, Tokyo Bitcoin Exchange, Bit Arg Exchange Tokyo, FTT Corporation, and Xtheta Corporation were additionally approved. Then within the same month, Bitocean became the 16th and the last operator to obtain a license from the FSA so far.

16 Government-Approved Crypto Exchanges Forming Self-Regulatory Body in JapanIn addition to the 16 approved exchanges, the FSA has allowed “quasi” cryptocurrency operators to conduct business while their applications are pending. These operators have been in crypto exchange businesses prior to the introduction of the registration system.

The 16 quasi-operators are Minnano Bitcoin, Payward Japan, Lemuria Bitcoin Exchange (Bitcrements), Campfire Corporation, Tokyo Gateway, Lastroots Corporation, Debit, Eternal Link, FSHO Corporation, Kirin Corporation, Bit Station, Blue Dream Japan, Mr. Exchange, Bmex Corporation, Bitexpress Corporation and Coincheck.

In addition, there are over 100 companies reportedly seeking to obtain a license to operate crypto exchanges in the country.

According to Thursday’s announcement by the exchanges:

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The body will later invite other cryptocurrency exchanges whose applications for registration with the government are pending, as well as those that plan to register in the future.


Source: https://news.bitcoin.com/government-approved-crypto-exchanges-self-regulatory-body-japan/
265  Bitcoin / Press / [2018-03-03] Bitcoin.com Wallet Celebrates 2 Million Wallets Created on: March 03, 2018, 06:30:54 PM


This week our company is proud to say that two million Bitcoin.com Wallets have been created since its release just seven months ago. The multi-currency wallet allows users to store Bitcoin Cash (BCH) and Bitcoin Core (BTC) in a non-custodial fashion. Moreover, our developers have big plans for the Bitcoin.com Wallet as more features are coming to the platform in the future.

Two Million Wallets Download Since August


The Bitcoin.com Wallet reached a milestone of over two million wallets created this week. Bitcoin interest and demand has spurred thousands of downloads each and every week since the wallet was introduced back in August of 2017. The multi-currency wallet that holds BCH and BTC is available for download on mobile or desktop from every major operating system, including Windows, Mac, Linux, Google Chrome, Android, and iOS. The wallet allows users to store their private keys themselves; which means the funds are not held by a third party and Bitcoin.com has no access to the coins.

Just recently the wallet has added a few additions to the client’s interface making the user experience more enjoyable. For instance, the Bitcoin.com Wallet is one of seven wallet providers that offers Bitpay’s Payment Protocol compatibility. This makes paying Bitpay invoices with the Bitcoin.com Wallet simple and easy. Moreover, the wallet now offers ShapeShift abilities by utilizing the company Shapeshift’s API. This means users can swap BTC for BCH or vice versa natively—within the wallet’s interface. The platform also allows for multi-signature wallets where keys can be split between more than one device/user for added security.  



Demand for Bitcoin Cash Has Doubled Usage

Bitcoin.com’s owner and CEO Roger Ver is excited about the future of his company’s flagship product. Ver states during the announcement:

“Usage of our wallet has doubled in less than three months as demand for Bitcoin Cash continues to grow worldwide. With this, we are seeing an increase of industry support as well as merchant adoption on websites and retail venues. We are working hard to consistently roll out new features and improvements that add to the user experience of the Bitcoin.com Wallet.”

Bitcoin.com Wallet Celebrates 2 Million Wallets Created

Our open source Bitcoin.com Wallet has many new features coming in the near future. In time, there will be the potential for debit-card top offs using the platform. Bitcoin.com developers are also researching BCH-based colored coin management. The Bitcoin Cash network may soon have the ability to create token based assets (colored coins), and Bitcoin.com wants to remain at the forefront of such technological advances.

Two million wallets created is a significant milestone for us, but it’s also just the start. Bitcoin.com hopes to provide wallets, tools, and educational resources to everyone all across the globe. The user-friendly Bitcoin.com Wallet is pushing that goal towards the next level as the cryptocurrency economy continues to grow exponentially.

Check out all the latest features and download the Bitcoin.com Wallet today!

Do you use our wallet? Let us know what you think about the Bitcoin.com Wallet in the comments below.

Source: https://news.bitcoin.com/bitcoin-com-wallet-celebrates-2-million-wallets-created/
266  Bitcoin / Press / [2018-03-03] Rebel Bitcoiners in Ecuador Open First Crypto ATMs on: March 03, 2018, 06:29:32 PM
The government of Ecuador launched an all-out war on cryptocurrency about four years ago, even going so far as to push its own state-backed version. With local lapdog media attempting to scare the country’s populace, something of a backlash has taken place. A rather brave group of bitcoiners have opened crypto automated teller machines (ATMs) in the nation’s capital, and the government is not happy.

Bitcoiners in Ecuador Defy Ban

Paz Gómez of Antigua Report notes, “The Ecuadorian government has been trying—and failing—to ban cryptocurrencies since 2014.” As a consolation, the government issued something akin, but state-backed – Dinero Electrónico. As with most such ventures, it quickly fizzled, and was later tossed to the private sector…where it has languished unused.

At the beginning of this year, the government inadvertently showed its hand by addressing what everyone already knew: bitcoin is growing in popularity throughout the country. Banco Central del Ecuador, the country’s central bank, issued a terse Comunicado Oficial: Sobre El Uso del Bitcoin. “The Central Bank of Ecuador informs the public that bitcoin is not a means of payment authorized for its use in the country,” the statement began. “Bitcoin is a cryptocurrency that has no backup, because it supports its value in speculation. The financial transactions carried out through bitcoin are not controlled, supervised or regulated by any entity in Ecuador, which is why its use represents a financial risk for those who use it.”



The salient part of the missive backed away from the government’s earlier prohibition. “It is important to point out that the purchase and sale of cryptocurrencies -like bitcoin- through the Internet is not prohibited; However, it is emphasized that bitcoin is not a legal currency and is not authorized as a means of payment of goods and services,” the bank reiterated.

This was enough of a hole, in what was already a lax enforcement environment, for a crypto consultancy group, Criptoasesores, to install “first locally assembled ATMs in the capital, Quito, to provide Ecuadorians with a secure and easy way to acquire and sell cryptocurrencies,” Ms. Gómez reported. Two ATMs were installed at a cost of 22,000 USD each, capable of exchanging fiat for bitcoin, dash, and puras.

Ecuador Central Bank Bans Crypto ATMs in Response

“Every day, more and more Ecuadorians trade goods and services thanks to Bitcoin and other emerging digital currencies,” she explained, “as evidenced by sellers and buyers listed on Localbitcoin and on several social-media communities.” Crypto ATMs, then, will only hasten adoption, as Ms. Gómez elaborates, “No prior contact with digital currencies is needed, not even owning an e-wallet. The ATM prints out the information of a new wallet where the acquired currency has been transferred to. However, to sell them, one should already have a device with a wallet and make a usual transaction to the address provided by the ATM. After verification, the ATM hands out the money and a receipt.”

Rebel Bitcoiners in Ecuador Open First Crypto ATMs
Verónica Artola of ECB
Sternly, about a week after the launch, the central bank hit back, publicly and loudly. According to El Comercio, “It is not legal because it is not backed by a financial institution that is supervised by the Superintendency of Banks,” explained Verónica Artola. “Neither is it a financial service authorized by the Superintendency. You can invest in these currencies, but not buy goods or services in the country,” further insisting crypto ATMs are not authorized under the country’s financial legal codes.

Criptoasesores’ Dany Ledesma said the group didn’t ask for official permission “because we are not providing a financial service. It’s like when you buy recharge minutes on a machine.” As such, the ATMs will be for educational purposes only, giving fellow country persons a taste of what is possible. “We continue to work to improve the ATM’s technology and find a profitable business model,” he told Antigua Report. “One of our goals is that the sale and purchase of cryptocurrencies becomes formal and legal, so that people can engage in safer and more secure transactions.”

Whatever the case, clearly the government views bitcoin as a threat, and the attention it has given two lowly ATMs in its capital will probably end in having a Streisand Effect, allowing still more people to hear about the phenomenon sweeping the world and their country.

Source: https://news.bitcoin.com/rebel-bitcoiners-in-ecuador-open-first-crypto-atms/
267  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Suspicious: bitcoin core syncing way fast on: February 01, 2018, 09:44:31 AM

If your new laptop has an SSD, a decent processor (i5-i7) and sufficient RAM, ~24 hours sounds about right... IIRC, somewhere around core version ~0.13, there was some kind of rewrite of some of the sourcecode with a result of a speedup while syncing....

OK, thanks. I never would have imagined that running a full node could be so easy. Craig fakesatoshi Wright vibez!
268  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Suspicious: bitcoin core syncing way fast on: February 01, 2018, 09:33:33 AM
I just got a new laptop, with plenty of hard drive space, so have started with bitcoin core 15.1, as per the instrutions at https://bitcoin.org/en/full-node#ubuntu-1610.

It has only been syncing for about 12 hours and already states that the estimated time left as 22 hours, 5 years and 15 weeks behind. I thought syncing was supposed to take at least a week! It took about 10 days last time I did it 2 years ago.

So of course, I'm a wee bit suspicious, and paranoid.



DSL speed test: 1.2Mb/s download, 0.5Mb/s upload
Running Ubuntu 16.04, with 32G RAM,  Intel® Core™ i5-8250U CPU @ 1.60GHz × 8, and a solid state drive. Yes I know that's high spec, but still, thought I should check.

Thanks
269  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 16, 2017, 08:56:22 AM
Hi,

Can anyone please tell me why bitcoin rise is so strong and pushing for new all time high?

As i know the segwit2X Hard fork is cancelled. Is there something i'm missing?

CME and Wall Street, BCH failure, public awareness and adoption, etc
This strong rise has been on the cards for a while

It happens so quickly thats what amaze me.

If this is a real bull and not a bull trap the price can go at least to 9930$ in the next 2 to 3 Days.

And if it's a bull trap, we're going dawn allot farther. I hope the climate isn't hype!
270  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 16, 2017, 08:45:06 AM
Hi,

Can anyone please tell me why bitcoin rise is so strong and pushing for new all time high?

As i know the segwit2X Hard fork is cancelled. Is there something i'm missing?

CME and Wall Street, BCH failure, public awareness and adoption, etc
This strong rise has been on the cards for a while
271  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 16, 2017, 08:43:39 AM
So is the market going to draw a nice bullish handle on this cup that's just formed, or just honey badger choo through?  

I'm hoping for handle as it's supposedly more bullish according to TA, and also so I can scalp more profits before the ATH top unpredictability zone
272  Economy / Speculation / Re: Roger Ver's trick to drop BTC to $1300: a call to whales to SELL NOW PLEASE! on: November 15, 2017, 12:29:39 PM
I've noticed something alarming about this BCH influenced BTC crash/correction

Has anyone noticed that the very rapid drop and resultant rebound didn't get the chance to actually test support at $5k? I can't help but think that this might be a deliberate attempt of Roger Ver and co, to ensure that Bitcoin then carries on up to new all time highs, having not tested support since $1300. They'll back off now, and let the BTC community think that BCH has failed, ensuring that $5k doesn't get properly tested.

This might result in an inevitable retrace/crash back to $1300, which would be when he could pump BCH again to cause a real 'flipenning'.

So basically, PLEASE SELL!!

Do you own any Bitcoin???
If that's the case and you have absolute confidence in your assumption then put your money where your mouth is!!
Sell your Bitcoin and present us the details here. TXid, sign a message etc.
You can not demand others to sell if you're not doing it in first place!!!
So show and prove us you're a man of action and not just words!!

I'm surprised that a few of you understood my "So basically, PLEASE SELL!!" bit to be as serious as the rest of my post, and especially surprised that it might be perceived as a sincere demand. I had deliberately used caps and double exclamation marks to be sure of that. No matter. Anyway, why would you want someone's proof of how much they own for such a thing?

The first section of the post, however, was not a joke. I posted it really to express my concern and discuss the hypothesis that such a manipulation might be on the cards. I find it useful to have TA vs fundamentals discussions.  
273  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 15, 2017, 01:39:38 AM
for fuck sake

my sentiments exactly. So wrecked  Sad
274  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 15, 2017, 01:21:43 AM
woah up up! Was Jihan arrested or something?
275  Economy / Speculation / Re: Roger Ver's trick to drop BTC to $1300: a call to whales to SELL NOW PLEASE! on: November 14, 2017, 11:55:46 AM

Roger does not have enough money to influence BTC, and BTC market cap is too large. Its a lot easier with some financial backup to create peaks in BCH than in BTC given their market cap.
Absolutely correct, though between him and his backers, they did have enough money to do a really good manipulation job of establishing the direct inverse correlation between BCH and BTC. Now the bots are doing his work for him, so they can manipulate the BTC price just by controlling the relatively illiquid BCH. I guess it's down to the big money backing Bitcoin (bigger than BCH) now to decide when to decouple this

BTC has too many good news on the way, I think BCH has nothing more than a bunch of crazies to control it; institutions are struggling already with BTC, do you really think they will put their money on a coin controlled by people with such a track record?
The only argument you can make here is that BCH is funded by big financial institutions trying to control BTC, but if that was the case, I think BTC would be dead already

True, but if the BCH camp manage to pump BCH high enough to incentivise enough miners to mine it, the damage that could do to BTC could be a real problem. I expect that some of the big money wanting to get into Bitcoin for the long run would like for this to happen so that they could buy into a prolonged BTC bear market reaching down well below $5k, whereas others would rather get in before the end of 2017 for a more immediate rise to $10k-$20k.

Of course BTC wins long term, but whether we have to suffer another multi-year bear winter or not before hitting $20k is still unclear. I only hope that the battle for big money getting in inevitably results in a big money FOMO movement

276  Economy / Speculation / Re: Roger Ver's trick to drop BTC to $1300: a call to whales to SELL NOW PLEASE! on: November 14, 2017, 10:54:27 AM
I've noticed something alarming about this BCH influenced BTC crash/correction

Has anyone noticed that the very rapid drop and resultant rebound didn't get the chance to actually test support at $5k? I can't help but think that this might be a deliberate attempt of Roger Ver and co, to ensure that Bitcoin then carries on up to new all time highs, having not tested support since $1300. They'll back off now, and let the BTC community think that BCH has failed, ensuring that $5k doesn't get properly tested.

This might result in an inevitable retrace/crash back to $1300, which would be when he could pump BCH again to cause a real 'flipenning'.

So basically, PLEASE SELL!!

Here's your answer on who stopped the dip, dont panic
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-13/mysterious-bitcoin-dip-buyer-identified

That's some nice news, but it doesn't change the hypothesis. Also, it suggests that if he did allot of the buying, that there might still be a allot of money still left on the sidelines waiting for one more lower dip. If it were to happen, I'd consider it more bullish for the long term, of never returning to these levels of cheap BTC.
277  Economy / Speculation / Re: Roger Ver's trick to drop BTC to $1300: a call to whales to SELL NOW PLEASE! on: November 14, 2017, 10:47:13 AM

 Grin


So basically, PLEASE SELL!!

i am sorry you missed the chance to buy at the  dip but that is not going to happen. specially ridiculous prices such as $1300 will only happen in your dreams now or unless bitcoin is dead Wink

there has been nothing new about this recent bitcoin drop as a matter of fact. it happens every couple of months. exactly the same way with nearly the same size.
you seriously need to check the charts before talking about "supports" and "retraces".

you think the first drop this year from $1100 to $750 (31%) was any different than this?
how about $1350 to $890 (34%)
or $2900 to $1900 (34%)
or $4800 to 3100 (35%)
now $7800 to 5500 (29%)

these percentages are not coincidence! these are the corrections, retrace, crash, bubble bursting, or whatever you want to call each and everyone of them.

29% is ~15% less than the previous 3 corrections. Maybe some more downside for my small percentage that's underwater.




Well Roger Ver and Jihan Wu would love to have you by their side. I mean, why advocate selling when you yourself are not selling your own coins? As of the moment, these two names are not the biggest personalities involved in bitcoin. There are a lot more people, who may be just silent wielding a bigger stick than both of these. The only way for bitcoin is to go up.

two exclamation marks usually implies a hint of either rage or humour. Up to you to decide which it was.





I did have a genuine worry for the possibility of this fearful scenario to be honest. I certainly want to be wrong, and to be convinced that it is wrong. I'm not yet convinced. Partially because, although I'm not a fan of TA for Bicoin either, it's just that Tone Vays has been on such a roll lately that i'm reluctant to accept that it's over, given his prediction of testing $5k.


278  Economy / Speculation / Re: Roger Ver's trick to drop BTC to $1300: a call to whales to SELL NOW PLEASE! on: November 14, 2017, 09:17:41 AM
Technical analysis is rubbish.  
Because the price fell to a higher level than you think would have been expected, it should now fall a further 75% from that expected level?

It makes no sense, not that the Bitcoin rises and falls make sense, but that is my point, technical analysis doesn't really work for Bitcoin. Also, why call for people to sell? Sell your Bitcoins and shut up!

Obviously I hope I'm wrong, like with the idea that ice caps with more heavy ice might increase the chances of 'earth-crust-displacement' apocalypse, such that more greenhouse gasses might save us.

But I think that it is an interesting hypothesis that they might be trying this. Apologies for the 'melodrama' dude. I like to spice it a wee bit. easy now
279  Economy / Speculation / Roger Ver's trick to drop BTC to $1300: a call to whales to SELL NOW PLEASE! on: November 14, 2017, 08:40:43 AM
I've noticed something alarming about this BCH influenced BTC crash/correction

Has anyone noticed that the very rapid drop and resultant rebound didn't get the chance to actually test support at $5k? I can't help but think that this might be a deliberate attempt of Roger Ver and co, to ensure that Bitcoin then carries on up to new all time highs, having not tested support since $1300. They'll back off now, and let the BTC community think that BCH has failed, ensuring that $5k doesn't get properly tested.

This might result in an inevitable retrace/crash back to $1300, which would be when he could pump BCH again to cause a real 'flipenning'.

So basically, PLEASE SELL!!
280  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BCH scam awareness on: November 14, 2017, 08:34:12 AM
i laugh when people say "what group can i join to do X"
its like asking what cabin can i trap myself in and circle jerk the same thoughts to others who think the same. whereby the outside world hears nothing.

but to answer the OP's question. he can suck eggs with core devs if he really wants to circle jerk the narrow mindset.

P.S if you really idolise decentralisation avoid joining core, avoid grouping yourself together in a small part of the internet, avoid trying to control the narrative with propaganda campaigns and instead spend your time actually learning what things are

looks like I touched a nerve... get your emotions in check and form a rational basis for discussion please. thanks.

I'm not idolising decentralisation. I simply recognise that it is possibly the most valuable characteristic to cryptocurrencies. To my mind, it is valuable because it prevents an individual or small group (cartel) from controlling it for their own means. Even if starting out with a hypothetical benevolent and trustworthy noble 'president', who has allot of control over what happens to the coin, as well as the mining, BCH will always be at risk, as that 'president' could be compromised, corrupted, or usurped. If that happens, and in time it always does inevitably given time (see fiat currencies!), then the currency looses its trustworthiness and value. 

Decentralised mining is even more important than decentralised leadership. Without decentralisation of mining, there's not actually any point to having a blockchain. You might as well just print a finite number of coins which are then run from a centralised server, like Ripple, which does fairly well for such purposes.

For these reasons, I would prefer Bitcoin Gold ideally, though its dev team seems to be too inexperienced at the moment. I actually consider BTC ASIC mining to be too centralised.


while I'm not into BCH and I sold all my share at the beginning , I still don't know why some people try to call it scam
where is the scam with it ?? it wasn't premine and if you were btc holder you already got your share so people didn't even pay for it in the past ??

I started to feel like some people are regretting that they sold their share early and now they are shocked with the price , cause you can call BCH whatever you want but not scam at all !!

It's scammy because they are trying so hard to convince newcomers to buy into it as either the original Bitcoin, or the inevitable replacement of BTC, whereas in truth, it's a forked copy of bitcoin, with an entirely different team. Bitcoin Gold, on the other hand, are not trying to claim the 'Bitcoin' brand as it were, nor, unlike BCH, are they actively trying to attack BTC and confuse people as the BCH camp have obviously been doing. That's the difference between a friendly fork and a hostile fork. The guys running BCH are deliberately trying to mislead people. Had it not been for such underhanded tactics I might not be so against it! (I also hate r/Bitcoin as it's way to tightly moderated)
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