But logical religious people realize it didn't happen by ZAP. The atheist freaks aren't logical enough to see that God (whatever He/She/It is) is the only way things could exist as they do. Logical religious people realize it didn't happen by ZAP...  Oh cmon dude, you can use logic with something like that. Logic would be "if I can't see any evidence of that, it must not exist", logic isnt "Unicorns exist, tho there isn't any evidence at all that doesn't mean that they dont exist. look they are here in these tales and books, so they must exist." The atheist freaks aren't logical enough to see that God.. haha yeah, that must be it, they aren't logical enough. Touch the wall by the computer. Is there anything behind the wall? If you can't see it, it probably isn't there, right? That's what you are saying. You are about as dumb as atheists get.  And you're dumb if you think you can just make up what's behind the wall and portray it as fact. Science asks what's behind the wall and if we can detect it. You are right. I would be "dumb" if I did that. That's why I show the evidence and proof: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. And you're dumb if you think you can just make up what's behind the wall and portray it as fact.
You are right. I would be "dumb" if I did that. Sounds like BADlogic is guessing what's behind the wall and protraying it as fact. He says so himself: Science is guesswork. Science theory is guesswork. Science law is fact. So, science as a whole is guesswork. The wise person depends on science law. You don't know if there is anything behind the wall. If you are in construction, your experience might suggest it. Smash through your wall to see if there is anything back there. NO, Fluffer! Don't really do this. I had to tell you not to do it. Otherwise you just might go around smashing walls to see if there is anything behind them. |
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In my opinion public transport simply can't be free because, first of all, such category of service requires certain expenditures, for instance on petrol, bus drivers' engineers' salaries and vehicle maintenance and/or renewal. second of all, according to lies, which our "precious servants of the people" try to feed to us, governments can't provide us with this service for the same reasons, which have been elucidated in the first sentence. and also because public transport usually belongs to private companies Of course everybody (including me) wishes that public transport was free. had it been free, we would be able to save up more money and spend either on clothes, books, music notes, new cello or guitar strings, bouquets or posies for our significant others and music teachers etc.  on the other hand, we just have to find more alternative ways of earning money tax-free or we could strive to become the best at what we do and thus we will be able to earn money and stop wasting out time thinking how everything is expensive and unfair. Life is a cruel mistress, though worth fighting for. I wish all of us luck and more fighting spirit coz there will be a hell of battle in the future and bloodsheds, and triumphs afterwards... If people avoid using their personal vehicles, and use public transport instead, then the government will be able to save a lot of money. The crude oil import bill will go down, and so will the maintenance bill for the roads. Government might save some money. But the people won't. Why not? Because the government will tax them to death to pay for public transportation. If I want to use my walk-a-mobile (feet and legs), and pay for shoes rather than public transportation, why should I be forced to pay for other people riding the bus? Let them pay for the bus, or not ride it, and pay for their own shoes, instead. Or are you part of government, and want to take my freedom away from me? |
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Anyone who claims that they are not religious but make judgments about religious topics (eg: truth of the Bible, non-existence of God, morality of adultery, etc.) has made a religious statement. Belief in naturalism by atheists is their faith.
Actually, anyone who seeks questions about truth is seeking knowledge - not religion. As usual, you forgot to look up the definitions. Definition of what? Religion: noun the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. noun noun: naturalism 1. (in art and literature) a style and theory of representation based on the accurate depiction of detail. "his attack on naturalism in TV drama" 2. the philosophical belief that everything arises from natural properties and causes, and supernatural or spiritual explanations are excluded or discounted. "this romanticized attitude to the world did conflict with his avowed naturalism" 3. (in moral philosophy) the theory that ethical statements can be derived from non-ethical ones. I do not believe in a supernatural power "especially a god or gods" therefore I question those who do. This gives me knowledge. Learn to read! Now YOU learn to read. From Dictionary.com, at http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t: religion
[ri-lij-uh n]
noun
1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects:
the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices:
a world council of religions.
4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.:
to enter religion.
5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.
6. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience:
to make a religion of fighting prejudice.
7. religions, Archaic. religious rites:
painted priests performing religions deep into the night.
8. Archaic. strict faithfulness; devotion:
a religion to one's vow.
Note number 6 in the definition. The more you attempt to make atheism to not be a religion, the more you force it into the realm of religious activity according to number 6. Other aspects of the atheism religion fit the definition of religion as well. Consider. A few things that prove that God exists are listed here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. There are many more when you search for them. Since God exists, you are setting yourself up as god over God when you say He doesn't. In order to set yourself up against the God of the universe in a meaningful way, you have to be very strong willed. Your strong will is your religion according to number 1 of the definition. Since you are unwilling to admit to the truth when it is stuck right in front of you, and especially when your actions prove that you are doing the exact things that you are saying you are not doing (maintaining a religion with yourself), you are a liar, and shouldn't be trusted in anything. |
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Your thinking seems to be based on lack of knowledge. "Christ" is the way we say the Greek word for the Jewish word "Messiah." The Christ was essentially around from before time began... with God, as God. That I am aware, there is no word "Messiahian," or some similar form. The point is, there was no time before Christianity. No, it is not Christ is not the Greek word for the Jewish word "Messiah" Christ is a "person" from 0 BC/AC If you think everyone born before him should burn in hell, fuck you Christ means savior on greek as much as I know. Jesus lived 2k years ago and that's when we started counting time as the new era. Well, BADecker, that point is as retarded as it gets. You've outdone yourself now. Nope. I have outdone you. Jesus is the Messiah. The form that Jesus took in the Old Testament was The Angel of the Lord. Jesus was the One Who walked in the garden with Adam and Eve. Jesus has been here all along. I wasn't referring to that and I know what Christ means, so if it's translated it would be Jesus the savior, christ meaning the savior. I was referring to "The point is, there was no time before Christianity." Well how come then there were a lot of other religions and gods before the christian one? The Beginning was when God created the Heavens and the Earth. There were no other Gods, and there still aren't. The Bible talks about this. The Bible has to do with Christianity. There were no other Gods before the Christian God, and no other religions before the Christian religion. The God of the Christians is the God of the beginning. Says who? - Says the science that shows that cause and effect is in everything, and says the science of entropy which shows that there was a beginning.You have stated that the Old Testament is not to be followed so that makes your "beginning" which is written in Genesis invalid. - Now you are inappropriately applying things that I said. Just because the O.T. rules and laws don't apply to us directly from the O.T., doesn't mean the O.T. is a lie in the things that it says.Since you act like this, you are shown to be dishonorable, a liar, and not to be trusted in essentially anything you say. If you were honorable and honest, you would at least state that there is valid thinking in the things that I say. But you don't even want to follow the laws of science. Since you act the way you do, you have a religious cult going for yourself. And its purpose is to destroy everything that is good and right. The reason behind it is money. You want to maintain the promotion of falsehood so that people are dragged into chaos, and are easily destroyed by it... with the hopes that you and your promoters will make money off it. |
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Beside having a Gun Control owners should also be more calm and ensure that their mood won't affect on thwir decision when using it.
There is no way to ensure this. A person who seems calm and peaceful today may be the one who kills a few dozen tomorrow in a terrorist attack. Mood depends on a lot of things. So the only viable method is to remove guns from the criminals, and the mentally deranged, and allow gun ownership for everyone else. Be careful that you don't let Government declare that all of its citizens are mentally deranged if they want to have guns. |
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than any other religion?
Let me ask another time, If You will call some FLDS member as "cristian"? Jihadi Salafist are a totalitarian sect, they have no clue about Quran and no clue about the Shariah Law. Telling "Allah Akbar" not made the dumb criminal acting against the Shariah Law as "muslim". Just listen all the text of the letter if You are interested in argument. There is enough data. http://www.lettertobaghdadi.com/The problem with the letter is, it is not a clear example of the Koran. No Koran references are given. For example. In almost all Christianity, if the people get together and want to make a change in Christianity, they give references listed in the Bible for their reason to change. Then other people give references that show why the changes are not valid. Sure, there is disagreement in Christianity. But Bible understanding is always used. This Muslim letter is simply some people trying to change Islam. Or they are trying to rename their religion to Islam. Or they are trying to bring Islam down. If they want to do the things they say, they should start their own religion. Why? Because the things they say are different than the things of the Koran and the Hadiths. See http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm for some of the differences between the letter and the Koran. |
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Your thinking seems to be based on lack of knowledge. "Christ" is the way we say the Greek word for the Jewish word "Messiah." The Christ was essentially around from before time began... with God, as God. That I am aware, there is no word "Messiahian," or some similar form. The point is, there was no time before Christianity. No, it is not Christ is not the Greek word for the Jewish word "Messiah" Christ is a "person" from 0 BC/AC If you think everyone born before him should burn in hell, fuck you Christ means savior on greek as much as I know. Jesus lived 2k years ago and that's when we started counting time as the new era. Well, BADecker, that point is as retarded as it gets. You've outdone yourself now. Nope. I have outdone you. Jesus is the Messiah. The form that Jesus took in the Old Testament was The Angel of the Lord. Jesus was the One Who walked in the garden with Adam and Eve. Jesus has been here all along. I wasn't referring to that and I know what Christ means, so if it's translated it would be Jesus the savior, christ meaning the savior. I was referring to "The point is, there was no time before Christianity." Well how come then there were a lot of other religions and gods before the christian one? The Beginning was when God created the Heavens and the Earth. There were no other Gods, and there still aren't. The Bible talks about this. The Bible has to do with Christianity. There were no other Gods before the Christian God, and no other religions before the Christian religion. The God of the Christians is the God of the beginning. |
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But logical religious people realize it didn't happen by ZAP. The atheist freaks aren't logical enough to see that God (whatever He/She/It is) is the only way things could exist as they do. Logical religious people realize it didn't happen by ZAP... Oh cmon dude, you can use logic with something like that. Logic would be "if I can't see any evidence of that, it must not exist", logic isnt "Unicorns exist, tho there isn't any evidence at all that doesn't mean that they dont exist. look they are here in these tales and books, so they must exist." The atheist freaks aren't logical enough to see that God.. haha yeah, that must be it, they aren't logical enough. Touch the wall by the computer. Is there anything behind the wall? If you can't see it, it probably isn't there, right? That's what you are saying. You are about as dumb as atheists get. And you're dumb if you think you can just make up what's behind the wall and portray it as fact. Science asks what's behind the wall and if we can detect it. You are right. I would be "dumb" if I did that. That's why I show the evidence and proof: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. |
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Atheists are free and therefore there is no reason for hatred.
Then why hate religion? Do you hate people who rape 8 years old kids, over and over? Or steal money from poor or handicapped? You should hate religion for the same reason. I also hate atheist who do those things. Should I just hate the human species then? , those people should be hated and castrated no matter the religion status, and I've never read that it says that raping kids is ok, unless it's Islam where Muhammad was married to a kid... But the person can be, a christian, atheist, pagan,etc.. Religion doesn't follow mental illness, but mental illness follows religion. Tell it to the Catholic priests. Church harbors and defends pedophiles, it has been doing it for hundreds of years. Fucking altar boys has been strictly Catholic thing to do. Cases pedofelia do happen among Catholic priests, but we also know cases when Muslims are zoofeliya. Which is worse? All these cases indicate that any religion is nonsense. But Islamism is the worst nonsense because aggressive. I don't know about that, I kind of like buddhism, no gods and siht more like spiritualism on a personal level, helping you becoem a better person. Better person towards yourself and towards others. Well, at least we know you are not an atheist. After all, you don't know if God exists or not. Atheists claim He doesn't. But they don't know it for sure. So, they are liars. You would rather ignore the question altogether. Well, to be honest, I've never considered myself an atheist, I do like buddhism because as I said because of it's impact on your body and spirit. I don't know if god exists or not, maybehe does, maybe he doesnt, maybe he exists but left the Earth to ourselves.. who knows, but the situation right now is point to non existance of god of any kind. You keep ignoring the evidence and the proof: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. |
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Who create God? Why there is always a confusion, misunderstanding and debates on the topic of God? Why do people want God? Isn't we are the one to make everything possible? We don't have to give our faith and hope to God. Isn't it ? Why God exists in all people mind?  Those who don't believed in god then don't bother those who believed in him and keep faithful to him i am one who believing in him not because church taught us when you experience his kindness and his blessed you always remembered him that he still exist on this world and keep wathcing on us. Ok, lemme ask you one question that no one will answer me for some reason. Were you born in a country where christianity is the main religion or is your father/mother a devout christian? The question is kinda irrelevant. Why? Because the atheism religion is strong enough that those who were brought up in atheism often maintain their religion just as those who were brought up in another religion. Unless a person does the studies himself/herself, any religion is based on what a person hears someone else express. One of the strangest anomalies exists in the scientific community. The basis for all scientific investigation is cause and effect. A scientist sees something, wants to know the whys and hows of it, and looks to see what caused it. Cause and effect. The greater the scientist, the more he has looked into the cause and effect of things. People and their intelligence exist. They are the effect of some or many causes. Whatever caused the greatness of life and intelligence and reasoning, must have had this in itself way ahead of time. Yet many scientists try to figure out ways to claim that everything was randomly done, when there essentially is no such thing as random, and when cause and effect is evidenced in billions of things all over the place. This anomaly in science and scientists is one of the things that turns science, and particularly atheism, into a religion... but more, a cult. So, you answer your own question about yourself and your atheism religion first. If your answer makes enough sense, someone might play the game of answering you about his religion. What scientific investigation? Thank you for prompting me to emphasize, so that everybody is clear about it... all. The ones that you posted and share them as evidence? hahaha I'm still not clear about that, lemme see some links that are not from some christian "science" website.... You are asking me to let you do something? I don't have much of any control over your life. If something or someone is stopping you from researching or using your brain, it isn't me, not to my knowledge, anyway. No, I asked you to provide some links. Well that's the reason I don't believe in any of the gods or fairy tales, I've started thinking on my own and didn't want some book from the sand people dictating my life. Well, you said, " lemme see ..." I don't have any control over your life. I'm not stopping you from doing some research. And I'm not your stepping stone, either. Go right ahead and let yourself see some links if you want. |
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So what? A bunch of Muslims (or others, for all we know) are trying to start up a new version of Islam. Don't we have enough varieties already? |
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Yes, but as in higher power/being. Not as Christian god.
Why? Do you think Christians are so great that God isn't their God as well? |
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Your thinking seems to be based on lack of knowledge. "Christ" is the way we say the Greek word for the Jewish word "Messiah." The Christ was essentially around from before time began... with God, as God. That I am aware, there is no word "Messiahian," or some similar form. The point is, there was no time before Christianity. No, it is not Christ is not the Greek word for the Jewish word "Messiah" Christ is a "person" from 0 BC/AC If you think everyone born before him should burn in hell, fuck you Christ means savior on greek as much as I know. Jesus lived 2k years ago and that's when we started counting time as the new era. Well, BADecker, that point is as retarded as it gets. You've outdone yourself now. Nope. I have outdone you. Jesus is the Messiah. The form that Jesus took in the Old Testament was The Angel of the Lord. Jesus was the One Who walked in the garden with Adam and Eve. Jesus has been here all along. |
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Gun control is necessary and a must.
But there is no way to do it without using guns. So, the gun control idea is self-contradictory, and a lie. |
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iam believe
if the thread vote or comment not believe
i want to ask, what do you think about earth, who create earth
and who fist in human in earth , and who create human
Hi, let me tell you from the start that you should read some biology book or unleast research more about that topic on how did the first human come to be. Ok, the Earth, no one created Earth, here's a little link that you can read https://www.theguardian.com/science/2008/apr/28/starsgalaxiesandplanets.geology. Every answer is basically a click away from you, it's up to you if you're not too ignorant to find it and read it. Now let me ask you, do you think that this universe and all the galaxies, planets and satelites were created by the big bang? By the particles and star dust that was scattered all over? If no, why not? Many of the books say that humans came into being by evolution. Evolution is simply change, and change is programmed to do what it does by cause and effect. People were planned by the One who started cause and effect. Believing Big Bang without any way to prove it, and in light of contradictory ideas about it even among those scientists who formulate what they think it was like, shows that the whole BB idea is stupid. Find something more logical to believe in. |
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iam believe
if the thread vote or comment not believe
i want to ask, what do you think about earth, who create earth
and who fist in human in earth , and who create human
who fist in human ..Some might say GOD Hmmm nice..Some might say the DEVIL ooo OUCH.. who create earth?..Not who but WHAT  .. What ever created the earth makes no difference because the earth created YOU AND I .. People came about by cause and effect, because cause and effect works in everything. To make cause and effect happen so that the earth could bring forth people, there must have been some very deep calculations going on. Why? Because we haven't been able to come close to making life... to say nothing about intelligent life... to say nothing about life in abundance. The "What" that did all the planning and calc and set everything into the motion that went into creating life and intelligence, is God way beyond our simple meaning of the word "God." Remember Religious freaks believe a man like being went ZAP and the earth was SO.. Impossible .. But logical religious people realize it didn't happen by ZAP. The atheist freaks aren't logical enough to see that God (whatever He/She/It is) is the only way things could exist as they do. Now imagine Aliens created the earth?..STILL NOT GOD .. Well, God certainly is not man. So, He is a form of alien.
If i plant a seed and make it grow am i a god?..The earth..
If you formulate the process whereby a bunch of chemicals come together and form a seed, and then force the chemicals to come together... because of how complex this process is, you would be God. But you can't do this, although it has been done... by God. Science is the key to life .. God is the Maker of science. The main problem is people who believe in a god and believe in the religious books they read.. CRAZIES .. The main problem is that atheists can't think deeply enough to understand that science shows that God exists. People who say Arrr well something put us here but i don't know what.. You people are not the problem.. Nutters who say a human like being went zap and made the earth are crazies .. Nutters who think that they know even a fraction of the things that go on in the universe, don't realize that they don't know enough about God to say that God couldn't go ZAP and make everything just like that. Then these same nutters go off and accept and confirm and support Big Bang that says the universe was created just like that... ZAP.
No one really knows how we got here YET..
If we had no religion we would be 5 thousand years ahead or dead in science?..
If we had no religion, Big Bang ideas would not exist as though they were factual. This means that if we didn't have the religion of science, science would be far ahead of where it is.
Who knows religion might of slowed us down from killing ourselves..
Or it could of slowed us down from having a better life on earth..
Rather, it shows us things about God, who created everything... except for the religion of atheism.
Me thinks it slowed us down from having a better life on earth..
BUT we might of killed ourselves already..
You thinks, but not very much. And you doesn't know. Ok no ZAP..BUT..It was so?..And it was so ..If you ask me not much different than saying ZAP  ..Or abracadabra ..Or bish bosh bash .. You thinks, but not very much ..Says the religious freak..At least i think.. Very much come to think about it ..MONEY MONEY MONEY..Bet bet bet bet.. you get told how to think by your bible?.And you still don't follow gods words after reading his manual  . You come up with crazy religious science .. We come from a single point..Why because we are expanding spreading out.. So rewind the clock and we started from a certain point in the universe.. Now one day we will see what happens to new solar systems how they are made .. 100% we will know for sure..We almost do know 100% how life and the universe started .. Just your religion is making up MAD SCIENCE..How you ask.. Well if i say it was so you will believe anything..Oh it's got to be wrote in a old looking book for you to believe ..DUMB SHIT .. There you go, saying the same silly stuff you did before. Just because you say in more than once, still doesn't make it true, or even logical. |
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But logical religious people realize it didn't happen by ZAP. The atheist freaks aren't logical enough to see that God (whatever He/She/It is) is the only way things could exist as they do. Logical religious people realize it didn't happen by ZAP... Oh cmon dude, you can use logic with something like that. Logic would be "if I can't see any evidence of that, it must not exist", logic isnt "Unicorns exist, tho there isn't any evidence at all that doesn't mean that they dont exist. look they are here in these tales and books, so they must exist." The atheist freaks aren't logical enough to see that God.. haha yeah, that must be it, they aren't logical enough. Touch the wall by the computer. Is there anything behind the wall? If you can't see it, it probably isn't there, right? That's what you are saying. You are about as dumb as atheists get. |
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What is Islam? Is Islam simply people who say they are Islam? Is Islam people who have any beliefs they want? Or is Islam the people who do what the Koran says? The Koran says, be peaceful to other Muslims. The Koran says, convert other people to Islam. The Koran says, kill people who won't convert. The Koran says, kill Muslims who stop being Muslims. The peaceful Muslims are not killing people who won't convert. Because of this, they are not Muslim, even if they say they are. ISIS is true Muslim. They kill people who won't convert, and they kill people who were Muslim but stopped being Muslim, even if those people still SAY they are Muslim. ISIS is true Islam. |
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For all the talk of bravery, people of the u.s. are some of the biggest most pathetic cowards. Actions speak louder than words.
What actions are you talking about? You mean like when they saved the world from tyranny in 1945? Please, no one did nothing for free. Every country had their own interests. You "sold" after war half Europe to please Stalin (Yalta Conference), so your actions did not end well for everyone. This whole thread is pointless, there are no good or bad country. Yes, this thread is pointless. After all, nobody in the U.S. is trying to silence anybody. Freedom of speech is one of the most important things in the U.S. It's in the 1st amendment... top of the freedoms. EDIT: Btw, turn your radio off. It's way too noisy. |
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https://farefreepublictransport.com/city/Free public transport exist and there arent just two cities in east europe that have it Seems france, poland and the us are pioneers regarding free public transport. To say it is free, doesn't make it free. Transit workers still get paid. Yes of course. But i think "free" public transport would be overall better for our society because more people would use it. Way more efficient then everyone driving in their own car. Efficient... perhaps. Effective... probably. Free... not for somebody who has to depend on the government to do for him what he could do more effectively and efficiently for himself. |
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