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2641  Other / Meta / Re: Abuse or not? on: September 30, 2015, 02:06:40 PM
So you sell them mid range accounts which they build up to sell off as high ranking member accounts. What legitimate reason do people have for buying those high ranking accounts?

Signature campaigns pay more for higher ranking forum accounts. Because the signature allows more signs the signature campaign runners can create bigger and more flashy signatures.

As far as i saw there are a lot of users form poorer countries who create an additional income. Or maybe a fulltime income with that.
2642  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: Bitcoin-Workshop für Flüchtlinge. Unterstützt uns dabei, es ist ganz leicht. on: September 30, 2015, 01:47:16 PM
Wir brauchen mehr Menschen mit Idealen, ...
... die dann auch konsequent und dauerhaft gelebt werden. Auch - bzw. gerade - dann, wenn es persönlich unbequem wird.

Wenn der Teufel Menschen in Verwirrung bringen will, bedient er sich dazu der Idealisten. Machiavelli

*lach* Da ist was dran. Idealisten bringen Verwirrung. Aber jede große Revolution und Änderung begann mit Idealisten. Teuflisch waren diese Änderungen allerdings nur für Konservative.

Vielleicht war Machiavelli erzkonservativ?
2643  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [LAUNCHED] Staisybit - Universal Cloud Staking Wallet - Beta on: September 30, 2015, 01:39:20 PM
That sounds like a wallet with staking ability and some community around it.

yeeeeh you got it !!!
Cheesy

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Then those who are unexperienced in the altcoin market still can take part without risking having bought shitcoins.

you ALWAYS risk to invest in a shitcoin


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Though i still think it is something you should consider adding. Yes, you don't see it as an investment but it somehow is anyway with the staking. Profitwise it might be better to handle it yourself. Of course it might mean work. Though when i see the work needed for successfull staking then you probably already do that anyway? I mean you create blocks at staisybit, right? You don't only put all coins into one address and hope that it will stake successfully, right? If so then the mainwork already would have been done. Only chosing the right coins would be left. Any since you are in the area you most probably would know best about that.

all in all he wanted to say, that he is willing to add features on user requests, he even found solutions to your idea.
The STAKINGENGINE though is a own development from stratch that outperformed any other candidate around.
You will be VERY gradeful in case we won't change that!  Wink

have fun
Matthias
  Grin


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Does that mean the stakingengine is building blocks on it's own? And it's better than competitors. Sounds great.

Then someone only would need to break the fee threshold. You wanted to charge a monthly fee or something like that if i remember correctly having read that somewhere.
2644  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: We need the bitcoin foundation to fix the blocksize problem on: September 30, 2015, 01:34:55 PM
Anyway... i tried to find a way to use the blockchain for real votes for political parties. But there seems to be no vote system that can achieve that that is not prone to manipulation and still are free, secret, equal, directly and general.

Is that not a good thing though?
Should the votes of 100 people which hold next to no BTC be worth more than 99 people that hold a lot of BTC?

The people should matter since they are the user. Why should the ones owning the most bitcoins rule over bitcoin? It would be like a government. And they would simply not sell their coins and they could rule over bitcoin for eternity.

There is no reason that rich early adopters should rule while most of the users don't have a voice.

You might have a threshold but even then you might make users in poor countries have no voice. Having no voice is always a bad thing.
2645  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: My doubt about signing bitcoin sign message. on: September 30, 2015, 01:31:49 PM
If you ever get your account hacked or if you want to sell it then you need to prove that you are the real owner of that account and you are no hacker. Otherwise it would be hard to reclaim your account.

If you sign a message you post publicly then make sure that you include event details. Not that someone takes your general signature and makes trouble.

1st thing , I am not gonna sell my one and only one account which helps me to earn my pocket money.  I am dreaming to be a legendary member on bitcointalk forum. And as you said about the security issue of my account , I will set the secret question and answers with a strong password for my account safety.

You should not use the secret question since the encryption of the answer is not that strong. The forum will warn you about that too.

Yes, you can create a strong password. But that is not the only way to hack an account. I think not a few accounts get hacked because the email address attached gets hacked. At least it sounds to me after reading not a few stories about hacked accounts whose password were reset by email.

Buddy ,  my email account cannot be hacked in anyway. Bcoz,  2nd factor  authentication is activated on it. If I gave you my email account login details too , you need my mobile phone and mobile number to use the verification code to get my account access.

That is actually a good email provider then. Though you should not feel too safe with 2FA. It might be hard to hack it but with a poor implementation it might be possible for a hacker to circumvent your account. Hacking doesn't always mean knowing the password. It might mean not needing such things too.

At the end... i don't see a reason why NOT adding another layer of security. It surely can't hurt when you are cautious and back up your private keys.

Buddy, whenever someone will tries to sign in to my gmail account. I will receive the verification call everytime on my Mobile number which is owned by me only. If the hacker don't have my mobile phone, how he will get the verification code and will enter to my account ? its not possible.

The notification email is a good thing that adds additional security.

Regarding the 2FA. You feel safe because no one can get the codes. But what i wanted to tell you is that hackers might not need the code. Only a part of hacks happen because the details are known to be able to login. Many hacks happen because of serverissues, errors in code and so on. Then it might not matter if the hacker does not have the code. He does not need it to check out your emails. Maybe he got a direct database access or something. Then you trusting on 2FA would be a hollow trust.

It might be unlikely that this happens with gmail but still. Things like that happen all the time. You should not feel too safe only because your 2FA.

I think i will leave it now at this. Smiley
2646  Economy / Services / Re: [ANN] SebastianJu - Free Legendary Escrow Service - Escrowed over 8150 BTC on: September 30, 2015, 01:21:56 PM
Thanks everyone for your nice reviews. Appreciate it. Smiley

Let me know when you need my escrow services again. I happily will help you maken your trade, ICO or whatever safe. Smiley
2647  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [LAUNCHED] Staisybit - Universal Cloud Staking Wallet - Beta on: September 30, 2015, 01:17:50 PM
Good to read you guys are open to suggestions. That's always nice when communication exists and the communication is good. That's something you can easily miss in the bitcoin world.

Anyway... as a practically total noob in altcoins i only could bet on tips i get from others at this point. And i believe that iam not the only one that could not tell how to deal with which coin.

So, what i want to say... there are others than me and you might open a whole new area of potential users if you handle things for them. If you think from this angle, it might be an additional income then.

Though i understand that this is no priority at the moment. Only my thoughts about it. Tongue
2648  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: a dumbed down version of the 1MB point of view on: September 30, 2015, 01:09:22 PM

I feel that the POW aspect of Bitcoin is a total mess which might be impossible to recover from.  So yes, I realize this and agree, but my thesis about it is the opposite of yours.
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So do you prefer bitcoin switching to POS-Mining or something similar? Surely that would shut up all the persons claiming bitcoin is bad for the environment. But it surely will never happen since miners decide which chain wins and you can bet that most bitcoiners will switch to use that chain. I'm not sure what must happen that a pos-chain gets the new real bitcoin chain.
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POS never made any sense to me and does not now.  I was implying that it would be relatively straightforward to change the POW algo from sha256 to other things, and that could (relatively) easily happen if miners acted in a manner which was to dickish.

I would like to see rewards base on 'trasfer node path'.  That is, a unique and valuable 'path' of verification would be weighted in reward, acceptance, or both.  Some CPU-friendly per-verification-node pre-mining and/or optimization might be worthwhile both as a means of enhancing efficiency and verifying the distributed nature of the 'transfer path'.

TPM-like technology got Todd, Hearn, and myself sporting tech boners some years ago.  The reason it had that impact on me is that it might be a way to enhance the credibility of a unique verifying transfer node.  That is to say, it would be cheap and easy enough to obtain one (envision a thumb-drive miner form factor) but difficult enough to discourage well funded attackers from trying to flood the network in sybil mode.  Todd's 'scratch off' power-on key generation initialization makes the idea really workable.  I would envision 'black listing' of mis-behaving devices as an aspect of the transfer network.  So, say, a node were not verifying transactions (a current problem) the device would be obsolete and the operator would lose their $3.00 investment and ranking in the network matrix.

As I said, the technology needed to get a sustainable system which fosters good geo-political distribution is not trivial.  But it very well could be worth doing and it might be the case that a solution which gets it right may be the one which eventually bubbles to the top of the heap.

I'll maybe get back to some of your other points later (since you don't seem to be a total shill), but I better get something useful done today.



Hah, yeah, the forum can eat a lot of time. Smiley

I don't understand fully what your vision is but i think there is zero chance that bitcoin will be the currency that implements that. Miners are the one to decide and they will never do that.

I'm not sure if the network matrix and black listing would be a good think for decentralization though.
2649  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: CREDITS [CRE] | SHA256 | SIDECHAIN | NEW BLOCK-DEPOSIT FEATURE | OFFICIAL THREAD on: September 30, 2015, 11:01:33 AM
The new wallet is very stable, no freezing anymore while loading the blockchain or coming out of sleep modus.

But one small error is there. On the claim bitcoins tab in the bottom right, the number does not get updated when new coins are found to be added. I don't know if that only happens when the notebook comes from sleep mode. When i chose all inputs then the amount on top might be higher than the amount in the bottom right.
2650  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Bitfinex is having bugs today on: September 29, 2015, 04:10:14 PM
there has got to be a way we can take advantage of those bugs

I think it's the other way around. They've done rather nicely screwing the odd leveraged customer.

There were complaints some low buy orders weren't filled during crashes. I never found out if all their affected customers were compensated for those problems. Some customers could have lost out on the chance of buying at the bottom, and Bitfinex could have brought those coins and dumped them at the top for a healthy profit. Those profits could help to pay for the coins they lost during the hack.

Of course there would have to be other cases where orders could not go through and bringing profits to the traders. At the end for every loser there is a winner.

There were cases of orders filled wrongly in the orderbooks, orders on the wrong side of the orderbook, loans taken wrongly and so on. And it still continues. Roll Eyes
2651  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Bitfinex is having bugs today on: September 29, 2015, 04:07:33 PM
Folks have spoken with their money. Its share of daily turnover is way down. Like plenty of other places they seem to try to address problems on the fly. They'd be far better off taking some time out to get something that simply works. I wonder how messy their code is.

Exactly! I have the impression their code must be pretty messy. The fixes they bring are not working and bring other problems. If they don't manage a clean restart with nice clean code then they might be doomed. And since they most probably would start over with the same developers it looks like they are doomed anyway. Roll Eyes

there has got to be a way we can take advantage of those bugs

I think it's the other way around. They've done rather nicely screwing the odd leveraged customer.

Right... you only need to read in their thread. People left and right complaining about trades that did not go through because of some server errors. I wonder how many does not ask for compensation.
2652  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: a dumbed down version of the 1MB point of view on: September 29, 2015, 04:03:27 PM
I would say that it's about time to start at least pushing into the phase where there is organic competition and fees start to become a factor.  Who knows what Satoshi would say.  Not that I ever really ever considered the guy to be an infalable oracle of infinte wisdom, but it is certainly not a crazy idea that there would be competition for space in blocks either.

An artificial constraint can't be the basis for organic fee pressure.  Bitcoin does have it's network effect / first mover advantage, but the currency has a head start, not a monopoly.  People will and do pay a slight premium for access to Bitcoin's stability, liquidity and security, but any attempt to overcharge and people will take their business elsewhere, to other cryptos waiting in the wings.

Organic fee pressure would exist on the basis of the increased block orphan risk with each added tx.  In the long run, if those fees are not sufficient to pay for adequate security, I would expect miners to form a cartel to enforce some minimum fees.  I could understand a cartel seeming like an artificial constraint as well, and in some senses it would be one; though having a different basis than a software hard-limit would give the nature of the constraint different properties.  For instance, a mining cartel would be able to adjust their fee policy in real time if they so desired.



Exactly my thoughts. The maximum blocksize limit is an artificial limit from the start. You can't say it is organic when fees develop in such a cage.

And yes, miners will be the new banks. Unfortunately at that point satoshi might realize that not much is left of his idea.
2653  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: a dumbed down version of the 1MB point of view on: September 29, 2015, 04:01:17 PM

The inflation rate which supports the Bitcoin infrastructure has already dropped from 50BTC/block to 25BTC/block.  Soon it will be cut in half again.

I would say that it's about time to start at least pushing into the phase where there is organic competition and fees start to become a factor.  Who knows what Satoshi would say.  Not that I ever really ever considered the guy to be an infalable oracle of infinte wisdom, but it is certainly not a crazy idea that there would be competition for space in blocks either.

You realize that it is impossible to make up for the block halvings by increasing the fees? It would be instant death to bitcoin trying that.

And why should we need higher fees now? The mining market is obviously so lucrative that we have more than 100 fold hashpower than we would need to secure the network.

And there was this study, i read about some weeks ago, that calculated that every bitcoin transaction needs the amount of power that 1.75 average us- households need each day. Every single bitcoin transaction.

Surely that makes no sense at all.

Miners had to switch off their nonprofitable miners all the time. It's not something to fear about that. The network is more than protected and the incentive to mine seems to be way too high.

So i don't see a problem with low fees at the moment.

I feel that the POW aspect of Bitcoin is a total mess which might be impossible to recover from.  So yes, I realize this and agree, but my thesis about it is the opposite of yours.

I am hardly going to shed any tears if the total reward for mining blocks is insufficient to support a large datacenter deployment even if it found every block.  That reality is obviously on the horizon for anyone who shelled out the money needed to mine competitively.  As I've said many times, I anticipate that they will have to monetize other aspects of the network which they, unlike smaller players, will ultimately be well positioned to do.  At that point Bitcoin as a system has no real interest to me since it will be more like VISA and PayPal than like original Bitcoin.

A more ideal design would be that a reward is more available and more generous to infrastructure providers who are demonstrably decentralized, and the more decentralized, the more generous the reward.  A block reward which would barely interest a large consolidated miner would be a giant win for a decentralized independent participant.  So, it is not the end of the world to me if rewards in monetary terms shrunk considerably with what is realized today.  The 'grow or die' philosophy that Silicon Valley takes as a bedrock truth is unimpressive to me and always has been.

Not only is a demonstrably decentralized infrastructure network difficult to do technically, but it would be fairly challenging to get from where we are now with POW to where I think we need to be for a healthy and enduring system.  The only realistic way I see it happening is for a hostile blockchain fork (a-la XT) to occur and a trusted group (namely the blockstream guys) to take the opportunity to fix the POW issues once and for all.  I doubt that there will ever be another point in time where there is the same aggregation of capable and trusted technical participants than we have at this moment under the Blockstream banner.

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Lastly, I'll point out again that if the average transaction was, say, $10,000 equiv, a 0.5% transaction fee would net a block winner something like $200,000.  If half of it were distributed among those providing transfer infrastructure (non-mining validating nodes) and half were available to the block winner, that is enough to keep small-timers interested and playing at various levels.

Most of my real work with Bitcoin has been transfers of value in this range, and if the native blockchain were used for nightly balancing operations between off-chain (and/or sidechain) providers the $10,000 figure might be low-ball.  The actually coffee purchasers doing transactions on the sidechain (for instance) would still be paying a tiny fee (and probably none for branded sidechains) and the reward to the native Bitcoin infrastructure supports would still be generous at a low transaction rate.

One more advantage in using Bitcoin as a high value system is that those making such transactions are usually in no big hurry.  There is then no need to try to convert Bitcoin from a batch system to a real-time system.  A batch system is vastly easier to secure against attack, and particularly if those using it in this use-case are doing so with the appropriate expectations about system function.



So do you prefer bitcoin switching to POS-Mining or something similar? Surely that would shut up all the persons claiming bitcoin is bad for the environment. But it surely will never happen since miners decide which chain wins and you can bet that most bitcoiners will switch to use that chain. I'm not sure what must happen that a pos-chain gets the new real bitcoin chain.

And yes, the risk exists that miners will become the new banks. It's already very bad that mining is so centralized but they have all the might. They can raise fees and do whatever they want. I doubt that something like visa will happen now. The miners are still idealists for the most part and they have to fear losing users. Maybe some years in the future...

Unfortunately i think miners might really tend to prefer high fees. Since that is how they earn. The only thing we can do now is hope that they are sane enough to not do this. They would hurt themselfes. But since businesses nowadays often enough life after the ruling "Fast money now, press as much out of it as possible and let it die. Move to the next." then i don't have the best feeling about that too.

I really am not sure about blockstream. How many trust will i give some group that looks like they prevent bitcoin from solving it's problems to make their own project more successful? I don't know if it is the case, but it looks so. I'm really unsure that i will support such persons or network. And they don't do it for free. And how decentralized will it be? Will the investors have more power about how that network works or will it be less? Anyway... seeing this drama iam VERY cautious with that.

If you really transfer mostly such high amounts then you are a very very rare person in the community. If you think it would be enough to set on these high amounts then surely this will not work. Most people could not use bitcoin anymore and a bitcoin that can't be used for every usecase is very very very limited in it's usefullness. Whole countries could be blocked from using bitcoin. Surely that can't be a solution. And it surely is not "replacing fiat money" in the way satoshi wanted to build with bitcoin.

Batchsystem? Well, that sounds like you think killing two advantages of bitcoin could be healthy somehow. Bitcoin only has a couple of advantages that it can use to draw adopters. It's nearly free, it's faster and you can transfer any amount. Bitcoin will die if you take one or more of that. Because who and why should use bitcoin? For illegal things? Surely bad for bitcoin. And legal things? Buying a car? Why should i pay with bitcoin, having to wait until night for my transaction to confirm and then i can take my bought car driving home? I would simply use fiat then. Bitcoin would have lost all advantage.

Really... at that stage i only can imagine bitcoin being usefull for illegal buys, transactions, money laundering, black money and such things. There simply would be no advantage using bitcoin for normal things anymore.
2654  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: My doubt about signing bitcoin sign message. on: September 29, 2015, 03:39:49 PM
For stake your addres here, you can find a thread on meta section.
don't provide your private key, just your old wallet which you can sign message with.

Hacker nowadays is became more smart.

I cannot sign my old btc address which I lost recently.

Did you post that old address? If not then it doesn't matter. A posted bitcoin address only would help you when it was posted some months ago in an unedited post. The older the better since it raises the chance that the account was not hacked because the real owner would have found out about that most probably in the meanwhile.
2655  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: My doubt about signing bitcoin sign message. on: September 29, 2015, 03:38:01 PM
If you ever get your account hacked or if you want to sell it then you need to prove that you are the real owner of that account and you are no hacker. Otherwise it would be hard to reclaim your account.

If you sign a message you post publicly then make sure that you include event details. Not that someone takes your general signature and makes trouble.

1st thing , I am not gonna sell my one and only one account which helps me to earn my pocket money.  I am dreaming to be a legendary member on bitcointalk forum. And as you said about the security issue of my account , I will set the secret question and answers with a strong password for my account safety.

You should not use the secret question since the encryption of the answer is not that strong. The forum will warn you about that too.

Yes, you can create a strong password. But that is not the only way to hack an account. I think not a few accounts get hacked because the email address attached gets hacked. At least it sounds to me after reading not a few stories about hacked accounts whose password were reset by email.

Buddy ,  my email account cannot be hacked in anyway. Bcoz,  2nd factor  authentication is activated on it. If I gave you my email account login details too , you need my mobile phone and mobile number to use the verification code to get my account access.

That is actually a good email provider then. Though you should not feel too safe with 2FA. It might be hard to hack it but with a poor implementation it might be possible for a hacker to circumvent your account. Hacking doesn't always mean knowing the password. It might mean not needing such things too.

At the end... i don't see a reason why NOT adding another layer of security. It surely can't hurt when you are cautious and back up your private keys.
2656  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If using cryptocurrencies become a crime, will you be a criminal? on: September 29, 2015, 03:31:03 PM
I will stop using it. I have a family to think of and no criminal record. I doubt if it will happen in my country, because we have a vibrant Bitcoin economy and a Bitcoin friendly government. I am not saying it will not happen, but the government is getting a lot of extra TAX from this, so they are happy.

I know the Russians and China and Australia are clamping down on Bitcoin use now, so it might happen to them. Australia even banned Chris Brown from entering their country.   Roll Eyes

I would not risk going to jail or being fined high amounts of money. It simply wouldn't be worth it. Of course... i think i would not stop using bitcoin. I might go underground and use it only very secure. Though you would need to be cautious with some software. Electrum lately loses my setting to use a proxy with each restart of the wallet. And that already could reveal your identity. So i would need to be very sure about that.

But even when it would become illegal. The fines would surely not be very high. I mean many would not even know that it is illegal. I don't see a justification coming for really high fines.
2657  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If using cryptocurrencies become a crime, will you be a criminal? on: September 29, 2015, 03:27:38 PM
So If using cryptocurrencies become a crime, will you be a criminal AND use it?


Note: Before you reply remember  CIA/FBI/NSA/South-park/...   Grin

hmm... cryptocurrency is a digital money online.
so how can be having money online will be a crime?
does it mean that having money in my paypal,webmoney,skrill etc.
is also a crime? its non sense.
well if using bitcoin really become a crime.
it will be a disaster because a lot of people will argue about it.
this will be a world wide rally..

It is a crime if a government wants it to be a crime. In the past, you can read about that, governments often forbid alternate currencies when they felt they threaten them. They want to rule about the money. They surely don't want to give that right away. So they forbid alternate currencies pretty often.

Paypal might not be a problem because it still is pegged to fiat currencies. And the governments control those.
2658  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: We need the bitcoin foundation to fix the blocksize problem on: September 29, 2015, 03:24:39 PM
In a decentralized environment, voting would be the only option like democratic country has election to select their leaders. Like that to solve blocksize problem we need to go with what majority of the people vote for. This is in belief of majority of people would take a right one.

I like democracy the most too. Not the stupid thing they call democracy nowadays where citizens have one vote every couple of years and the rest of the time they lose their voting rights to others. That surely is no democracy, i would rather say it is a homeopatic democracy. It's so thin that it practically isn't there anymore. Cheesy

Anyway... i tried to find a way to use the blockchain for real votes for political parties. But there seems to be no vote system that can achieve that that is not prone to manipulation and still are free, secret, equal, directly and general.

I really would love to have a system like that. I know the pirate parties of the world, i would say the pirate party might be the biggest global political party now, would gladly take that system over.
2659  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: BITBILL.eu -> Pay all your bills with Bitcoins! (Or one of the other crypto's) on: September 29, 2015, 03:19:15 PM

Congrats for that milestone. So far i tested your service a couple of times with small bills and it always went fine. Support was supportive when i, again Roll Eyes, got the negative surprise of the strange behaviour of bitcoin exchanges taking fees from the amount you want to withdraw. Imagine an ATM where you say you want $100 and you get $99.5 out of it. Cheesy

Anyway... no complaints about your service. That's my review so far. Smiley
2660  Economy / Auctions / Re: Steam Account with 27 games, worth total $537 on: September 29, 2015, 12:41:07 AM
Ok, i asked the buyer. The new startprice is 0.123 Bitcoin and buy it now is at 0.75 bitcoin now.
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