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1821  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Master-P POSSIBLE SCAM. I lost complete faith in this forum now. on: December 28, 2015, 11:44:07 PM
i dont think the old master-p, assuming the sold account theory holds true, would have offered to escrow funds for an obvious ponzi scheme's signature campaign.

Sounds right to me but at this point i have the feeling i never knew him. I mean selling this account with all the impersonation features is practically a scam itself. So if that happened then he would have had no problems escrowing that too.
1822  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Master-P POSSIBLE SCAM. I lost complete faith in this forum now. on: December 28, 2015, 11:38:28 PM
For what it's worth, my account won't ever be sold for any amount of money.

I think nobody will doubt you anymore ever after you paid back the thousands of bitcoins that were invested in the old just-dice. I think there is no better proof of your honesty than you being able to scam for huge riches you probably never will hold again and not doing it. Clear sign of character. Smiley
1823  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Master-P POSSIBLE SCAM. I lost complete faith in this forum now. on: December 28, 2015, 11:30:02 PM
That proves absolutely nothing. Everything was transferred in the sale, meaning that the escrow could have been completed seamlessly.

That's a point i can't believe again. Who in their right mind would sell a forum account including wallet that maybe contains 10 bitcoins for 1 or 2 bitcoins? It's pathetic to believe that this could have happened. So stupid can nobody be. Especially not an escrow who is trained to sniff out potential scams.

No, beyond possible.
1824  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Master-P POSSIBLE SCAM. I lost complete faith in this forum now. on: December 28, 2015, 11:21:34 PM
I wouldn't sell my account for 100BTC even... How someone could screw over the community after trying to help it is beyond me. If the account was sold or not doesn't really matter...the original Master-p is responsible in my opinion.

That's exactly how i think too. If someone can do such a thing and sleep well with it, i don't get it. You have to know what will happen and you betray a lot of people then.

A shortage of money is no excusion. He could have scam himself too and earn more so it might be he thought there is no risk but i REALLY can't imagine this. Especially escrows are trained, for their own good, in finding potential scams. He not realizing what could happen is beyond possible. So at this point it sounds like an excuse.

Can it be that he screwed up and lost his wallet without having it backed up? This could explain the unmoved coins. Still, for someone providing escrow being so careless would not be ok.

From every angle i look at, it sounds like an excuse. Or can the staff confirm a noticeable change around the time of claimed sale of account?
1825  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Master-P POSSIBLE SCAM. I lost complete faith in this forum now. on: December 28, 2015, 11:15:06 PM
Sorry that i don't have the time to read the full thread but is the sale of the account confirmed? The real master-P was a great guy so it would be pretty bad when he would have sold his account because it would make him himself a scammer. He would know that the buyer can impersonat him now and he would be liable to damages in my eyes. It would be a pretty dumb move if he acted that way.

He would have allowed a stranger and possible scammer to impersonate him. He would not be able to speak himself out of this then.
Was waiting for your reply .There is still nothing that proves there are two different master-P's involved in this scam.The real owner fails to prove the sale and just wants people to believe his terrible lies.
He was continuously buying/selling from his steam account and says he sold his identity for 1 coin which he could have easily lended and possibly was his 2-4 weeks escrow fees.

The transaction ID he provided


In any way, master-P failed miserably. It doesn't matter really if he scammed himself or allowed others to scam. He very well had to know that nobody pays months worth of money to live when he is a honest person. Even if he would think he sells to a honest person, it simply is not acceptable to sell an account that even escrows. In my opinion if there is a doxx for the real master-p then he would be legally liable for what he did. And possibly liable for damages happening for allowing someone to impersonate him. I mean if you own a bank and allow a scammer to take in the user funds then who will be prosecuted? The scammer and the one allowing the scam. I think he can't get out of this easily. What a stupid thing to do if he really sold the account.

1 Bitcoin only? That sounds like a joke.

Did the behaviour of the account change at the claimed selling date?

Regarding the allowing of account sales... it really is better that it is allowed. The thing is when it would be forbidden then it still would happen. All communication would happen outside of the forum. But by allowing it the mods can clearly see everything going on. That is better than having no clue at all.

It's really a pain. It seems the number of people i really trust on here goes down constantly. Sad
1826  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Master-P POSSIBLE SCAM. I lost complete faith in this forum now. on: December 28, 2015, 06:59:39 PM
Sorry that i don't have the time to read the full thread but is the sale of the account confirmed? The real master-P was a great guy so it would be pretty bad when he would have sold his account because it would make him himself a scammer. He would know that the buyer can impersonat him now and he would be liable to damages in my eyes. It would be a pretty dumb move if he acted that way.

He would have allowed a stranger and possible scammer to impersonate him. He would not be able to speak himself out of this then.
1827  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Methods of growing your Bitcoin? on: December 25, 2015, 09:30:23 PM
Holding bitcoin can't growing your bitcoin, it's only growing your fiat (if bitcoin price up)
better to trade your bitcoin than you hold it for "long time"
Yes,but honestly holding bitcoins has less risk then trading as in trading we can lose large "fiat" in short span of time compared to the loss if we just hold..Holding is also good for Novice's Smiley

Holding Bitcoin has no risk at all if you don't look at the fiat value. It has a certain risk if you do care about the fiat value, but not if you hold your coins for the long term. Current prices are low if you consider how much potential Bitcoin is having.

It has potential for sure. But the risks are there too. I can see bitcoin dropping in price very much when governments around the world should decide that bitcoins would be illegal. A currency only can survive when it can be used. If acceptance is forbidden then it would be a big problem for the price. So i consider holding bitcoins not as the buy and forget investment many think it is. There are simply too many politicians against it.
1828  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Methods of growing your Bitcoin? on: December 25, 2015, 08:01:58 PM
Holding bitcoin can't growing your bitcoin, it's only growing your fiat (if bitcoin price up)
better to trade your bitcoin than you hold it for "long time"
Yes,but honestly holding bitcoins has less risk then trading as in trading we can lose large "fiat" in short span of time compared to the loss if we just hold..Holding is also good for Novice's Smiley

In fact it should be the same risk if you hold bitcoins or fiat. The advantage of holding fiat is that the value is stable to the outside. You will be able to buy the same amount of food in some weeks too.

Holding fiat while the price is rising will only lose you potential profit if you would have hold bitcoin.
Holding bitcoin while the price is dropping will bring you real loss in real world value. And bitcoin dropped heavily in the last year too.

So i would consider holding bitcoins not being the safest way.
1829  Economy / Exchanges / Re: www.BITSTAMP.net Bitcoin exchange site for USD/BTC on: December 25, 2015, 07:58:39 PM
One strategy to distinguish between email addresses that are in use (on a particular site) and those that are not is to attempt to have a password reset email sent.  Some sites will respond differently depending on whether or not the email address entered exists in their database.  Better sites respond with "If your email address is in our database, we have sent you an email."

I just verified that bitstamp's response depends on whether or not the email exists in their database, so that may be what has been going on.  Once the hacker gets a response indicating that the email exists, they have confirmed that they have the email address of a person with a bitstamp account.

So they would send out phishing mails or other scammails then? Since when they would try to login then my account surely would be banned for some minutes so that the automatic login tries can't be successfull. Though nothing like that happened.

I have 2FA, for all websites where i have lying something of value at one time, activated anyway.

I wonder what they want to do with it.
No, man.  I don't think they would send out phishing emails afterwards, but maybe.  I think it would be far more profitable to use emails that have been verified to be Bitstamp customers' emails by sending them spam advertising Bitcoin-related services.

Right, that might be. It might be they take the leaked database from the bitcointalk.org hack and check if the email addresses are still valid that way. Then they send out "double your investment hourly" emails. Cheesy
1830  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Methods of growing your Bitcoin? on: December 25, 2015, 07:54:08 PM
Definitely signature campaign. It's the best way to earn, on this forum at least.
yeah signature campaign is the easiest job with a large income, but whether it can be made in the long term for this job?
thinking again

signature campaign really possible to be a full income?

Sadly signature campaigns don't pay enough to live off them, they are a little reward, so you need some other arrangement for living from bitcoin other than signature campaign.
But signature campaign are very good to grow your bitcoins in decent pace compared to any other bitcoin earning resources.

Ideally one would only use signature campaigns as a side income for getting paid for posts he does anyway. Though at the end you end up with spending more time than you wanted by reading new posts and being able to post some more. Not really the best way since when you calculate the hourly reward then it is not really very rewarding.
1831  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Methods of growing your Bitcoin? on: December 25, 2015, 07:47:53 PM
gambling Cheesy

take 10 % of your budget and do that .

I don't think that's a good method to growing our bitcoins

Gambling is risky way, depending in luck, and you can easily losing all your hard earned coins in just few seconds

Still many people prefers investing their bitcoin in dice sites to grow their bitcoin fast, but, I don’t think that’s the safest way to grow our bitcoin, you might end up investing in scam site or loss while gambling. People normally loose their bitcoin in dice sites, than winning. The safest way must be signature campaign.

You realize that you will win when people lose and you are invested? I think a lot of people in this thread don't know the difference of investing into dice site and gambling at a dice site. Gambling can never be a investment. Except maybe in things like poker where you might be able to have an advantage.
1832  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated] on: December 24, 2015, 01:51:21 PM
It was clearly a scam. They couldn't/didn't ship products that they had in hand. The fact that there weren't a ton of customers screaming like in the BFL threads was a clue that he was lying about how much there was in preorders.

The claim that money was lost in Gox was also a clue because the money in gox was allegedly from preorders and the reason for the preorders was to raise funds for making hardware. How could he make hardware if all the assets were sitting in Gox?

Taking money from you rubes and not doing anything is not a failure, it's a scam. One that people fell for over and over again back then.

It's long time ago so did he really have the products he wanted to create? I believe he only bought miners from another company. Why should he do that when he really was able to create his own miners?

Taking preorders is not like an investment, right, though a scam would be when you take preorders knowing you won't deliver. Saying that, it might be that he knew at some point and still presold. So at that time it might be possible to say it was a scam at least.

He had hashfast miners in hand and didn't deliver. Scam

Can you come up with an explanation for all those coins on Gox that doesn't end in scam?

Either he was lying about them being there (was there any proof?)

Or they were preorder money from customers (that there's still no proof of) that should have been cashed out to pay for development/expenses/whatever or held in a wallet he controlled until needed.

Or they were the coins you geniuses gave him for the same reasons a the "customers," and all the same reasons that they shouldn't have been on Gox apply to those coins also.

Not to mention that this paragraph:

Quote
Intellihash (TM)

Intellishash (TM) is a unique in-house process designed by ACtM and its engineering team which extends or boosts the usefull hashing life of Bitcoin mining ASIC's. For commercial reasons the full details of this technology are confidential. The process can be applied to ACtM chips and will boost chip lifetime-performance as hash-difficulty rises. The percentage of increased life-time efficiency over a standard ASIC chip is not public knowledge, but the boost is expected to be significant over non-Intellishash capable chips (ie competitors chips).

is 100% bullshit aka SCAM

I thought he actually shipped those hashfast miners out. For those who agreed to receive those instead. Well it is probably too long ago. Roll Eyes

The gox coins... i can only say when i remembered that gox coins should exist when i saw that victims of mtgox should claim them then that was the time when ken logged into the forum again when i wrote about that in this thread here. It looked like he wanted to claim them so the community acted fast and informed haggerty, if i remember his name right, who is the executioner of activemining or so. He found it interesting and surely would have approached the trustee who will pay out the victims. So i'm sure when there are coins then these coins will flow back. At least 20 to 25%. Ken had claimed they were there because he misused mtgox as a wallet. At that time it was relatively common since exchanges going down was nothing usual.

Surely intellihash was some stupid code optimization that would not have been able to bring in such amounts of profits to make it worth it.
1833  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] Purse.io - Bitcoin Amazon Marketplace - Save ~10-25% on Amazon Wishlist on: December 24, 2015, 01:44:49 PM
Hey,

How long would it take for an order to accepted with a discount of 20% on average?

it depend on the value, with a small item i've tried with 25%, and it was done pretty fast 1-3 days

it seems that they are attacking purse.io, google say that the connection is not protected, what's going on?

It seems to depend on the market too. Even more it depends on if you are from a foreign country because the buyer would have to wait longer for the coins and if you include shipping costs or not.
1834  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: cryptostocks.com gone now or whats the matter? on: December 24, 2015, 01:42:50 PM
Did not know it still existed. You have to have balls to use this site, it works in on-and-off mode since a couple of years already

That's right. Though unfortunately, when you have alot of shares of a security and you can't sell it then you are at the mercy of the issuer if he wants to move to another market. If he doesn't then you are forced to use cryptostocks. And if you have enabled to get emails when a withdrawal is requested then you are fucked.
1835  Economy / Exchanges / Re: www.BITSTAMP.net Bitcoin exchange site for USD/BTC on: December 24, 2015, 11:39:01 AM
Has anyone received a password reset email that they hadn't requested?  Also my old password stopped working and had to request a new one and after that it blocked my IP for 900 seconds....

I received one on btc-e some weeks ago. Didn't have requested it either. I wonder why someone should try to do that? Does a hacker hope to get shown the email address or something like that?

if he requested password reset, he already knows your email, since your email is the login on btc-e

Right, hm, i have no idea what it could be good for then. Maybe someone had his hand on their mailserver or something like that? I had no problems logging in though. And btc-e has no coins from me anyway.
One strategy to distinguish between email addresses that are in use (on a particular site) and those that are not is to attempt to have a password reset email sent.  Some sites will respond differently depending on whether or not the email address entered exists in their database.  Better sites respond with "If your email address is in our database, we have sent you an email."

I just verified that bitstamp's response depends on whether or not the email exists in their database, so that may be what has been going on.  Once the hacker gets a response indicating that the email exists, they have confirmed that they have the email address of a person with a bitstamp account.

So they would send out phishing mails or other scammails then? Since when they would try to login then my account surely would be banned for some minutes so that the automatic login tries can't be successfull. Though nothing like that happened.

I have 2FA, for all websites where i have lying something of value at one time, activated anyway.

I wonder what they want to do with it.
1836  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: cryptostocks.com gone now or whats the matter? on: December 24, 2015, 11:17:36 AM
Down for me as well, looks like they're taking holidays too. Nothing from support?

There is no support. Kumala the owner does not react on anything you send him. I wonder if he will fix the missing email function for users. That brings trouble to alot of people.
1837  Economy / Speculation / Re: Critical Levels - EW analysis on: December 23, 2015, 07:50:46 PM
Two counts I'm seeing at the moment, one pushing the price up, the other down.

As the triangle is going to end soon, we should see some price movement in the next hours/day.



I tend to believe that it will go down. There is simply no power in the market for anything other. I'm not a pro trader yet though. Cheesy
1838  Economy / Services / Re: LuckyBtcCasino sig campaign. Pay Post and Fixed, (FULL) on: December 23, 2015, 11:51:17 AM
Cheesy Looks like i did not find the time to post much this week. Christmas is somewhat creepy. Cheesy
1839  Economy / Exchanges / Re: www.BITSTAMP.net Bitcoin exchange site for USD/BTC on: December 23, 2015, 11:36:02 AM
Has anyone received a password reset email that they hadn't requested?  Also my old password stopped working and had to request a new one and after that it blocked my IP for 900 seconds....

I received one on btc-e some weeks ago. Didn't have requested it either. I wonder why someone should try to do that? Does a hacker hope to get shown the email address or something like that?

if he requested password reset, he already knows your email, since your email is the login on btc-e

Right, hm, i have no idea what it could be good for then. Maybe someone had his hand on their mailserver or something like that? I had no problems logging in though. And btc-e has no coins from me anyway.
1840  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Methods of growing your Bitcoin? on: December 23, 2015, 11:21:21 AM
By faucets or signature campaign.

With faucets you can't earn good but yes at the initial stage signature campaigns are the best and the safest way to grow your bitcoins as the payment is confirmed if you post constructive and informative posts on the forum but again it won't help you in the best way to grow your bitcoins.

Faucet’s are the poorest way to grow your bitcoin. Even if you claim 5000 satoshis in a day, if you calculate your profit in year you won’t get anything more than some ten dollars, investing in dice sites is the best way of growing your bitcoin. But there are lot of risk in gambling.
You will lost your money in gambling if you addicted. so its not a good way to grow our bitcoins in gambling.
House is always win and gambling is for fun..

You too missed the word "investing". He did not speak about gambling, that would be risky but investing is not so risky. At least if you use old and established dice sites to invest your bitcoins into.
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