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26481  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Does ETH debacle prove the importance of marketing? on: June 27, 2016, 12:59:42 PM
To be honest here, I have no idea how ETH isn't collapsing as people move their ETH to BTC or fiat or gold or whatever. I mean, how come people has still thousands of BTC on the ETH market? I have no idea beyond thinking marketing is a very powerful thing to raise the price of an asset.

I mean fuck, who believes in ETH long term after Vitalik Buterin told exchanges to stop trading to stop panic selling? I think this fact alone makes ETH something you can't trust.

Im waiting for Rootstock to see if it can replace ETH, but for now I would stay cautious with smart contracts stuff.
I completely agree! Eth has proven a. people don't understand the smart contract they're "investing" in and b. Eth is not reliable.
It has also proven that a slick presentation, slick website, and slick creator can get very rich if enough people want to get in hoping to get rich too.

Bitcoin got populair without all this. It didn't need slick advertising.
26482  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: If prices crash after halving, what would you do? on: June 27, 2016, 09:08:04 AM
I'm believing in the bitcoin so I would stay holding because soon or later the price will go up again.
The bitcoin always has came back up to a nice worth...
Even the price will crash you will still on hold?
Why not? The alternative is panic selling when it crashes, and panic buying when it goes up. I have long term confidence, and you can't predict the peak or bottom of a market.
26483  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: ¦¯¦¦¯¦ Rollin.io Free Lottery Tickets ¦¯¦¦¯¦ Daily Giveaway ¦¯¦¦¯¦ 339 mBTC won on: June 26, 2016, 09:52:42 PM


Congratulations Humbertin19_ for winning 104 mBTC with a Happy Hour Lottery Ticket.
Full Lottery Results are of course public.


The winning Lottery Ticket was #320.

The next Draw is Monday 23:00h Amsterdam time. You can claim Free Tickets here as usual.
Next server seed: 1A72Yp139w6WX3Gu5tfj2X8OHEb8V546
26484  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: ¦¯¦¦¯¦ Rollin.io Free Lottery Tickets ¦¯¦¦¯¦ Daily Giveaway ¦¯¦¦¯¦ 235 mBTC won on: June 26, 2016, 06:13:32 PM
If you can please give me number 22.
Can we choose number if it isnt buyed??
You can't choose which number you'll get, it's first come, first serve.

The following people received Free Lottery Tickets (Ticket number(s) shown behind the name):

arunkmr865 348
CASIO 349
CroSany 350
DARKSIDEOFTHEMOON 601
Humbertin19_ 602
ImTheNigga 603
james1 604
Jayeagle2020 605
lixar9 606
Nerd2 607
raiju 608
Scarface4 609
Shahista 612
SimpleRed7 610
SupperBobby 630
teesan 611
vavilon 613
x2 equator ChatBot doesn’t know you, say something in chat first.
x2 hitava 614,615
x2 leps 616,617
x2 maat 618,619
x2 somuchee 620,621
x3 MonsterV2 622,623,624
x3 shanem 625,626,627
zasdec 628
zfde 629

Happy Hour is all weekend! 3 hours 47 minutes left.

Next Draw is in 2 hours and 47 minutes.
Lottery pot: 103 mBTC.
Good luck!
26485  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETH price soaring. Are you going to move some BTC into ETH? on: June 26, 2016, 04:53:08 PM
I'm all in BTC now, I expect more dumping, then a huge pump prior to the Halvening, after that I don't really know what will happen, if miners go out of business it may be the end of Bitcoin for real. I think Ethereum only survived this disaster (for now) because of the miners support, it should be $4-5 or even less.
What makes you say that? If miners go out of business, other miners take over. Difficulty can go down again if not enough blocks are found. Miners are just competing to find blocks, there is no reason for all of the to quit at the same time.
26486  Economy / Digital goods / Re: I'am selling more than 400.000 Bitcoin addresses + private keys on: June 26, 2016, 10:42:56 AM
Using an address while someone else has the private key is not recommended. And if that someone is someone you don't know at all, it's just dumb.
http://directory.io/ gives you all Bitcoin private keys. For free. And their FAQ says: "I log and steal everything."

If you want a lot of adresses for some reason, go to Bitaddress.org, click Bulk Wallet, and generate them.

If you want it faster, get vanitygen, do: vanitygen -k 1 -o alotofaddresses -q
I just got 15000 in a few seconds.
26487  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: If prices crash after halving, what would you do? on: June 26, 2016, 07:18:25 AM
Everyone's excited for the halving event happening around July. Everyone's saving hoping that the price will skyrocket after it.

But what if prices crash down instead? what would you do?
Bitcoin value already crashed down in the past week. It will go up again, and it will crash again. With or without halving, this will happen. You just don't know when.
The only thing you know for sure, is that the supply of new Bitcoins gets lower after the halving. But the newly mined coins are not instantly sold by the miners. Try this: Go to Blockchain.info, click the last blocks, and check where the newly mined coins went.
These are the balances:
431.10594346 BTC, 3,340.45052123 BTC, 75.87021485 BTC and 3,366.68709321 BTC.

Miners are in no rush now to sell their Bitcoins. And if they're not instantly selling now, the amount they sell will not instantly go down after the halving.

I think the halving is hyped. Everybody expects the price to go up, leading to the price going up. At the last halving, nothing happened until the price exploded months later.
So either way, nothing changes for me. I sell when I like the price, or I keep holding until I like the price. And I don't mind holding for years.
26488  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Missing bitcoins on: June 26, 2016, 07:07:25 AM
Nobody here knows what happened on an external site. You can email the site and ask them.
Or just let it be, 4000 satoshi is worth US$ 0.02, which is barely enough to cover the transaction fee when you want to send it. "Bitcoin dust" has no practical value.
26489  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: ¦¯¦¦¯¦ Rollin.io Free Lottery Tickets ¦¯¦¦¯¦ Daily Giveaway ¦¯¦¦¯¦ 235 mBTC won on: June 25, 2016, 08:34:35 PM
I accidentally replaced this post by the next day's post, so this is a short restored version.

The following people received Free Lottery Tickets (Ticket number(s) shown behind the name):

arunkmr865 140
Cannabis 291
edge777 This user name doesn’t exist on rollin.io, did you post your bitcointalk-name?
IIO 292
ImTheNigga 293
james1 294
kpisoi23 295
M64GamingYT 296
mmackoo 297
Scarface4 298
teesan 299
x11 CASIO 300,301,302,303,304,305,306,307,308,309,310
x11 Humbertin19_ 311,312,313,314,315,316,317,318,319,320,321
x11 SimpleRed7 322,323,324,325,326,327,328,329,330,331,332
x2 Absy107 333,334
x2 hitava 335,336
x2 maat 337,338
x3 Erikalui 339,340,341
x3 katerniko1 342,343,344
x3 shanem 345,346,347

Good luck!
26490  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: [Primedice.com] The Great Primedice Giveaway 4 Everyone! on: June 25, 2016, 06:24:06 PM
Username : dsffdssdf
Bet ID: 11,645,932,793

Thanks PD!
26491  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: ¦¯¦¦¯¦ Rollin.io Free Lottery Tickets ¦¯¦¦¯¦ Daily Giveaway ¦¯¦¦¯¦ 235 mBTC won on: June 24, 2016, 07:51:20 PM
The following people received Free Lottery Tickets (Ticket number(s) shown behind the name):

arunkmr865 101
btcgreen 102
Cannabis 103
casbie 104
CASIO 105
dondiego 106
equator ChatBot doesn’t know you, say something in chat first.
fitraok09 107
grambits 108
gustavv 109
hartedy 110
Humbertin19_ 111
james1 112
jhayar0127 113
kaconk ChatBot doesn’t know you, say something in chat first.
M64GamingYT 115
masova 116
MongMongAko 117
MrFarel404 118
newtime 119
pepew ChatBot doesn’t know you, say something in chat first.
preevi 120
raiju 121
revolutioner 122
SimpleRed7 123
vavilon 114
x2 hitava 124,125
x2 nekochan05 126,127
x3 Erikalui 128,129,130
x3 katerniko1 131,132,133
x3 rozee 134,135,136
x3 shanem 137,138,139

Next Draw is in 2 days, 1 hour and 8 minutes.
Happy Hour starts in 2 hour and 8 minutes.
Lottery pot: 29 mBTC.
Good luck!
26492  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Coinbase has partnered with Paypal - Officially! on: June 24, 2016, 10:18:15 AM
Seems less like a partnership and more like Coinbase will just send you Paypal funds if you request it.  Notice that you cannot buy bitcoin with Paypal, which makes me think there really isn't a partnership going on, but instead just an agreement that they will let you cash out large sums if necessary.
Coinsbase doesn't want the risk of creditcard fraud when you buy with Paypal. If they are the sending party and Coinbase is trusted, it is safe for both parties.
If they would allow you to buy Bitcoin with Paypal, they would make creditcard fraud very easy, and they would end up paying for it.
26493  Other / Politics & Society / Re: BREXIT WON, you aren't alone on: June 24, 2016, 07:13:29 AM
Congratulations Britain! I wish we (the Netherlands) would get a chance to at least vote whether we want to be in the EU or not.
Dutchies all know the result of this vote, which is why politicians don't let us choose. Unfortunately.
26494  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: ¦¯¦¦¯¦ Rollin.io Free Lottery Tickets ¦¯¦¦¯¦ Daily Giveaway ¦¯¦¦¯¦ 235 mBTC won on: June 23, 2016, 09:46:55 PM


Congratulations madcoin for winning 22 mBTC. This was not a Free Lottery Ticket, madcoin got this ticket from WinLottery*, who bought this ticket by himself in Rollin Chatter Box.
Full Lottery Results are of course public.


The winning Lottery Ticket was #2.

The next Draw is in 2 days, 23 hours and 15 minutes.
Next server seed: 2J9S2Z24H18F15P171os31FYROKGE66S

*Yep, that's my account that won yesterday and shared some tickets after winning.

More information
RollinGames blog – Lottery has more details on available commands to use in Rollin Chatter Box. It also explains how the winner is drawn. Lottery aims to be provably fair, and constructive criticism on the implementation is welcome.[/size]
As described in the starting post, Lottery is still experimental. It aims to be provably fair, and we welcome any feedback on our implementation.
Rollin Mods like Lottery, and often buy tickets. As you can see from the Results in the starting post, Mods also win a lot. This has been raising eyebrows, first very subtle, lately with stronger words.
Since Lottery is supposed to be fun, fair and also a promotion, it makes no sense to run a Lottery that raises eyebrows.
For this reason, Mods madcoin, Wilhelm and me won't join for a while. We'll also return tickets that get donated to us.
We still welcome any feedback on how we can improve fairness of our Lottery.

Admin just donated 15 mBTC to the pot, making it EV+ for next run.
26495  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: ¦¯¦¦¯¦ Rollin.io Free Lottery Tickets ¦¯¦¦¯¦ Daily Giveaway ¦¯¦¦¯¦ 235 mBTC won on: June 23, 2016, 08:03:03 PM
The following people received Free Lottery Tickets (Ticket number(s) shown behind the name):

arunkmr865 21
btcgreen 22
dondiego 85
grambits 23
gustavv 24
hartedy 25
Humbertin19_ 26
huzb 27
ImTheNigga 28
J3rain 29
Jayeagle2020 30
lixar9 31
madcoin 40
MongMongAko 32
MrFarel404 33
newtime 34
pepew ChatBot doesn’t know you, say something in chat first.
preevi 36
RemoteConsoleXD 37
revolutioner 38
RoadToBTC 39
rusmana62 This user does not exist on rollin.io, did you post your bitcointalk-name?
SimpleRed7 41
Tryme4pkr 42
wilhelm 43
x2 hitava 44,45
x2 masova 46,47
x3 Erikalui 48,49,50
x3 katerniko1 82,83,84
x3 MonsterV2 51,52,53
x3 rozee 54,55,56
x3 shanem 57,58,59
xCacheMoney 81
zasdec 60
zimach 35

Next Draw is in 1 hour.
Lottery pot: 20 mBTC.
Good luck!
26496  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Cldmine turned out to be a scam on: June 23, 2016, 10:15:32 AM
''Cldmine turned out to be a scam''
This sentence isn't accurate, it didn't turned to be a scam, it is a scam from the beginning, in fact every ''cloud mining'' service is a scam until it shows a valid proofs of mining activities (even with that it may collapse at any moment)
Try to look at this from a miner's perspective: why would a miner need you? He has his mining rigs, makes a nice profit, why would he go through all the hassle to create a website, give away free hashing power, and share his profit with you?
This should explain why real miners don't sell cloud mining contracts. The ones that do sell this aren't miners, they're running a ponzi scheme. They need new money to pay the old "profit", and as long as more money flows in than out they're good. The moment the inflow is lower than the outflow, they take their profit and disappear.
This has happened over and over again, and still people are "investing" in cloud mining.
26497  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Fastdice.com owes me 0.11 BTC and keeps delaying payment [solved] on: June 23, 2016, 10:10:41 AM
Update: I have received my payment today.
Case closed Cheesy
26498  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: ¦¯¦¦¯¦ Rollin.io Free Lottery Tickets ¦¯¦¦¯¦ Daily Giveaway ¦¯¦¦¯¦ 235 mBTC won on: June 23, 2016, 08:12:54 AM


Congratulations WinLottery* for winning 31 mBTC. This was not a Free Lottery Ticket, WinLottery bought this ticket by himself in Rollin Chatter Box.
Full Lottery Results are of course public.


The winning Lottery Ticket was #103.

The next Draw is in 13 hours.

*Full disclosure: I created this account as a joke yesterday, and it actually won Cheesy
26499  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: ¦¯¦¦¯¦ Rollin.io Free Lottery Tickets ¦¯¦¦¯¦ Daily Giveaway ¦¯¦¦¯¦ 235 mBTC won on: June 22, 2016, 07:30:27 PM
The following people received Free Lottery Tickets (Ticket number(s) shown behind the name):

Scarface4 161
raiju 162
angayan17 163
arunkmr865 164
btcgreen 165
casbie 166
CASIO 167
DARKSIDEOFTHEMOON 168
dondiego 169
grambits 170
gustavv 171
HighOnTacos 172
Humbertin19_ 173
ImTheNigga 174
J3rain 175
james1 176
MongMongAko 177
MrFarel404 178
preevi 179
RemoteConsoleXD 180
revolutioner 181
RoadToBTC 182
Scarface4 183
SimpleRed7 184
StaGod 185
teesan 186
Tryme4pkr 187
visions 188
Wilhelm 189
x2 cjrosero 190,191
x2 hitava 192,193
x2 masova 194,195
x2 septianuciha 196,197
x3 Erikalui 198,199,200
x3 LiQuid 201,202,203
x3 MonsterV2 204,205,206
x3 rozee 207,208,209
x3 shanem 210,241,242

Next Draw is in 1 hour 30 minutes.
Lottery pot: 31 mBTC.
Good luck!
26500  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Litecoin will see 10$ and above 2016 on: June 22, 2016, 07:34:56 AM
LTC will see 0.002 btc this year, possible $2.
With Ether dying as we speak, Litecoin will most likely see $20 this year.
dump your litecoins, last chance before drop to $3  Cheesy
You can't seem to make up your mind Cheesy

The Ethereum price is still over $10. There is a voting about the soft fork now. If there is a soft fork, but there is no hard fork, the number of Ethereum will be reduced by 3.6 million, it is good for existing coin values.
It would also prove that Smart Contracts are worthless and you can't trust Ethereum if you have a lot and a central power doesn't like it. One way or another it doesn't make sense Ethereum goes up in value. And when it drops, the established coins (mostly Bitcoin but Litecoin moves with it) go up.
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