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2701  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Isn't it a bad thing to never have more than 21 million coins? on: October 05, 2011, 08:39:21 PM
There are not 21 million coins. There an infinite number for all practical purposes. Bitcoins can be divided to a thousand decimal places.

Sure but you cant divide them without dividing their value too Smiley IOW, you can divide your coins all you want, but it wont affect mine. With dollars/euro's etc, some entity can create more and thereby affect yours.
2702  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: VRM temperatures on: October 05, 2011, 08:05:13 PM
Software isnt reliable, Buy a infared laser detector thing. MUCH more accurate and reliable.

I dont doubt the measured temps. My finger agrees Smiley. Besides, how else will you measure temps underneath a heatsink?

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I use loads of 5850's all next to each other all clocked 950/300+ with no problems. THey all do 1000 (except 1) but i thought of wear on them and lowered them. 400 a card is fine with me Smiley

At what voltages and temps? Im currently at 875 Mhz with 1.1v and despite the rather elaborate cooling, Im getting near 70C on the GPU. To go beyond 900 MHz I need a voltage bump and just bumping my voltage to 1.15 causes my temps to rise to 75+C on the GPU as recorded by catalyst (which means 85+C on other areas of the GPU) and I dont like that. Im sure it will survive for a while, maybe even years, but it seems like a stupid bet for a few extra MH (particularly since the electricity cost increases disproportionately with vcore and higher temps).
2703  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [~45 GH/s PPLNS] BitMinter.com *** 150 BTC promotion! * 6-11% MORE BITCOINS *** on: October 05, 2011, 07:56:07 PM

They are 3x watercooled 5970s (6 total GPU).

Sweet! Smiley

It would not be way more cheaper, easy and effective a "full immersion" oil cooling system? I am tempted to try a ghetto one if I find an almost free aquarium and car radiator.

Ive looked in to that, for fun more than anything. Its not a good idea. Oil has poor themal conductivity, mineral oil isnt all that cheap,  and you still need to circulate and cool the oil; plus you have to replace the oil (or filter it or both) as particles dissolve in them. It looks cool, but its not very cost efficient and even less efficient to achieve low temperatures. And its a nightmare for maintenance.

Im still tempted to build an "aquarium" file server just for the looks, complete with air bubbler and plastic plants or even fish Cheesy, but for mining or main PCs, nope.

edit: for falconfour it might be a good idea though. No drama when it starts raining Cheesy
2704  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [~45 GH/s PPLNS] BitMinter.com *** 150 BTC promotion! * 6-11% MORE BITCOINS *** on: October 05, 2011, 07:21:41 PM
Irony of irony, the blocks finally finish up, just as we get the first rain of the ending summer...

...

... And as many of you know, I run my mining rig outside.

This morning, I realize that rain is wet and computers don't like being wet.

Time to test the limits of Sapphire's warranty service... Sad

edit: heh heh, watercooling. heh. heh.  Roll Eyes

 Huh
Oh man. Sorry to hear.. but really, outside?
Anyway, you sure its not the powersupply that shorted? Over the years Ive done some stupid things with PCs, like dropping screwdrivers into a running rig or putting naked motherboards on metal boxes and powering them on and that sort of stuff, but somehow I never permanently damaged anything that way.
2705  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [~45 GH/s PPLNS] BitMinter.com *** 150 BTC promotion! * 6-11% MORE BITCOINS *** on: October 05, 2011, 05:40:10 PM
And another one! Let the good times roll Smiley

@deathandtaxes
I have noticed with phoenix and diablo I regularly get time out messages and my stales are much higher than bitminter. On the order of 1% or more sometimes (compared to basically nothing for bitminter). No idea if that is the same problem or not.
2706  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [~45 GH/s PPLNS] BitMinter.com *** 150 BTC promotion! * 6-11% MORE BITCOINS *** on: October 05, 2011, 03:51:14 PM
"Myvolition", I love you Cheesy
2707  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I need help tranlating Satoshi's design paper into as many languages as possible on: October 05, 2011, 10:00:46 AM
I just started Dutch. Commiting a translation takes longer than typing it Sad
2708  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I need help tranlating Satoshi's design paper into as many languages as possible on: October 05, 2011, 09:53:46 AM
Ill see what I can do for Dutch. But I suspect doing a proper translation is not so easy.
2709  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [BOUNTY] 1000 BTC for getting a major business to accept Bitcoin on: October 05, 2011, 09:50:54 AM
Rather than wasting your time trying to "convince" large corporations to accept something, it would be better to spend your time (and bounty) on more realistic targets and get sites or organisations to accept btc regardless of their size. Particularly sites or organisations accepting donations are a good candidate for this. Ive contacted Democracy Now and The Real News network. I have never heard back from DN, but TRNN has looked in to it, and recently told me they are likely to implement it. Do they make $100 million? No, probably not 1/10th of that,  but they do reach 10s of 1000s of viewers, many of whom might be sympathetic to an alternative currency.  Rome wasnt built in one day, but if organisations like TRNN start accepting BTC and spreading the word, thats a mighty big step in the right direction IMHO. Spamming Bestbuy or Wallmart will do nothing.
2710  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [~45 GH/s PPLNS] BitMinter.com *** 150 BTC promotion! * 6-11% MORE BITCOINS *** on: October 05, 2011, 08:32:24 AM
Updated generic banner PNG:
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/8317/bitmintergeneric2.png

Generic banner and speedo banner GIMP template:
http://ubuntuone.com/4mRHDJ8slKpNl4sZaQ46D3

(note: just hide the appropriate layer to get a generic banner or with speedo).

Slim banner GIMP template:
http://ubuntuone.com/5Ar7MbcegY1mkafS2Bf5Nj

(note: shadows are 2 pixel offset right + bottom, 80% transparency). Used the same Century Schoolbook font as you did on the website, 30 size
2711  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: VRM temperatures on: October 05, 2011, 06:07:52 AM
its called "AMD GPU Clock tool". Word of warning, it doesnt like other apps, dont use alongside afterburner everest, gpu-z etc, unless you like 1.65v vcore. It also reset fans to default whenever you change clocks
2712  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: So it's fair to say bitcoins are worth $5 bucks? on: October 04, 2011, 10:38:36 PM
It's difficult enough to set price on bitcoin, isn't it? Why don't we just say it is worth $100 for all of our sakes?

Good idea, I agree.
Now, you want to buy my bitcoins?
Cheesy
2713  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: VRM temperatures on: October 04, 2011, 10:16:12 PM
Some pics:






And some temps mining at 800 Mhz. Temps are even lower now I closed my case and the side intake fan is helping:



Is that awesome or what Smiley
2714  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Why You Haven't Seen Miners Leave in Hordes..... on: October 04, 2011, 10:11:58 PM
@DeathAndTaxes I think what his friend meant is after a day the pool will have found and verified a block, so he'd get his first payment.

@OP, As for the returns, if it was as profitable as printing money, everyone would do it Smiley. The reality is, its not profitable (anymore) unless you have cheap electricity. It doesnt matter if you have 1 card or 1000. The revenue scales linearly but so do the electricity costs. You can calculate it fairly precisely here:
http://bitcoinx.com/profit/

All that said, these days are the worst days in bitcoin mining history; the price is down by a lot and difficulty has not come down yet to match the lower global hashrate. There is a delay. Its coming down, and who knows, with some luck price will go up a bit, but even so, its never going to be lucrative if you have expensive electricity.
2715  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [~45 GH/s PPLNS] BitMinter.com *** 150 BTC promotion! * 6-11% MORE BITCOINS *** on: October 04, 2011, 05:34:04 PM
Nice looking banners! Smiley

I think "One-click miner" might be better than "Java WebStart" since a lot of users won't know what that is.

Think you're right. Will do first thing tomorrow

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Also, the slim version would probably look better with shadows on "BitMinter". Although there may not be room? It should be easy to get shadows on the numbers as well by printing the text twice, first in black, then in white. Won't be as nice as the shadows you put on there, but hopefully it should look ok. If it doesn't, maybe I can try some sort of smoothing on the black (shadow) text.

Its not pretty to have shadow on one side an no shadow on the other. I dont know what you will use to generate the text, but does it support blur? Even if it does, test it because it might cause huge cpu load to constantly generate dynamic images with blur filter. Perhaps its best we use hard shadows. two pixel offset to the right, two pixels to below, pure black If you can do transparency, set it to 80. If you cant do transparancy, let me know. As above, Ill make the template probably tomorrow. Its made in GIMP, so Ill send you the source file if you need any minor editing. Ill send you the full size background as well if I can still find it, should you want to use it on the site. I grabbed it off the web, but it was free to use, no license.
2716  Economy / Goods / Re: WTS Is anyone interested in new XFX referance 5850's? on: October 04, 2011, 03:14:16 PM
Well, no one said the OP couldnt try selling them on ebay, but have a look on this forum, you wont sell many for $160 on this forum. Months ago I bought one for 105  euro new, 3 year warranty from a local shop
2717  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: VRM temperatures on: October 04, 2011, 10:11:21 AM
My thermal take VRM R5 arrived yesterday. Installing it in combination with my accelero twin turbo was a bit of a nightmare, as the VRM block doesnt fit underneath the accelero. Had to grind the R5 down, and bend the accelero a little bit to make room.

However, it does work incredibly. I havent even fitted a fan to the R5, and I likely wont as the VRM temperatures dropped 30-40C ! My VRMs are now cooler than my GPU. Awesome Cheesy

My 5850 is now testing at  890 MHz, 1.1v, VRMs are 59C.  Me happy Cheesy
2718  Economy / Goods / Re: WTS Is anyone interested in new XFX referance 5850's? on: October 04, 2011, 10:05:03 AM
To be fair, $120 is for (ab)used cards, not new. But since I doubt we'd have a lot of useful warranty on those cards, you might as well buy used cards
2719  Economy / Services / Re: 9,000 MH/s rental on: October 04, 2011, 08:55:55 AM
Im curious why you'd do this? Whether you get the BTC revenue from mining or someone renting the farm, i dont quite see the point? Unless you have a small pool, with 9GH you wouldnt see a lot of variability over the course of a month...

BTW, however got that 30 day contract probably did a good deal as difficulty is about to drop quite a bit.
2720  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: thepiratebay.org banned bitcoinmarkets account due to "bitcoin is ponzi scheme" on: October 04, 2011, 08:38:26 AM
Who at all uses the pirate bay any more??
Alternatives are just much better, and this example maybe explains why they lost the race...

I do. What alternatives am I missing?
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