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2701  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN - [BEE] - 2014 -2018 - BEE COIN - the original BEE === on: January 08, 2018, 02:59:53 PM
Thanks for the support guys we hope to bring good opportunities here to earn a nice bee wages in the near future so check back from time to time.
2702  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: CRYPTO BULLION (CBX) | Inventor of PoSP! | 2017 Road-Map PUBLISHED! on: January 08, 2018, 02:58:13 PM

Would be REALLY good to have a info graphic that give an example of the rate of return for owning 2000 CBX and running a masternode - assuming a conservative $100 per coin valuation - I just did the maths and its really quite something  Shocked - hell you could retire on it!

FR

Yes, living off Bullion is the idea; enjoying the finer things, as a way of life Smiley

I really like your idea of an infographic as you suggested; what data would you like to see on this infographic: how much money people make daily with 1-2-3-4-5 masternodes vs. percentage yield?

Interest in cbx is increasing lately. I have seen some much larger than usual orders placed for much higher than usual prices.

Still a tiny cap floating around 5M

Look at some of the shit for billions on here. I mean they dont have a cryptographer on their entire team.

It is not out of the question at all if we get cracking with this and an exchange that charges fees in cbx ... well 500M is not out of the question at all.

A secure e wallet with savings accounts based on lock in time and amount deposited would also be a HUGE bonus for this coin.

I think if you have 2k + cbx in future. Life could become a lot more enjoyable.

Time is the most important factor here.
2703  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Best Exchange for ADA etc on: January 08, 2018, 02:42:55 PM
forget that scheme and invest in something worth while
2704  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Poloniex Preparing for an Exit Scam! DO _NOT_ SEND COINS THERE! on: January 08, 2018, 02:42:15 PM
Well I just transferred my XRP to Binance from Poloniex.  It went flawless!  No troubles at all.  Everyone here was worrying me so I decided to give it a try.

I dont believe they are exiting I believe they are useless scamming scum.

They have tons of money so wont go under but they are greedy and useless.

I see no reason for the XDN XCN BBR and all the other wallets that have been offline for MONTHS to stay off

They don't employ enough staff or highly skilled staff hence why they don't fix any major problems.

The owner this tristan is probably off swanning around living a great life leaving a bunch of untrained monkeys with zero clearance to look after his exchange.

Also XDN just had a HUGE pump and I would not mind betting their wallet full of other peoples XDN was dumped into this pump and they have now no XDN to pay people thier coins. They will buy them back when it dumps and perhaps switch in on then.

I hope they get busted and fined hard even better throw that tristan in jail for a few months wake that dumb shit up to the fact he is costing so many peole so much money
2705  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: January 08, 2018, 02:19:28 PM
if one person holds the vast bulk of the coins, controls the network, does not listen at all to the entire community then that is already a project that has failed to be trustless and decentralised.

Yet Byteball has a market cap of about $450 Million USD. Perhaps this is prima facie evidence that decentralization is not necessarily the be-all, end-all in crypto value?

IOTA and XRB sky rocketed ...

Yes...

Quote
... because of the unit price.

This assertion is made, bereft of any evidence to support it. Why do you claim A is the cause of B?

Perhaps those so insistent they know better than tony how to 'make this coin a success' should fork the code and create a new coin. Here ya go: https://github.com/byteball/byteball

450M is still small next to 11BN so perhaps with the adjustments suggested it could do a lot better.

Having said that MC value is not firm ground for any real argument imho. This metric is one of the most easily manipulated.

I am simply stating that whilst other projects move toward decentralised governance BB is one of the most proven centralised projects in many ways out there. The developer does what he wants when he want with no consideration nor consultation of the entire community. He actually takes many actions that are directly the opposite of what the community wants, retains a huge bulk of the coins and alters the distribution rules as and when he sees fit.

This is not in the spirit of crypto. 450 M is nothing for the design and implementation here. Tonys actions outside of his coding are actually damaging to the project. He should be left to code the core product and decentralised governance structure should be the first thing he gets to work on.

If giving huge amounts knowingly to other ico managers whilst having to cut promised full moon distributions to investors many of which invested on that premise is not enough indication of terrible mismanagement of this project then i am not sure what it will take for you to recognise tony is best kept to the coding and design whilst others who understand market psychology and marketing are best to work in those areas.

Investing in BB right now with so much central control is actually very high risk and if you want to cut out the non savvy investors and treat their investment as invalid and then cut out the savvy investors who see the high risk of the entire project in the hands on one person who does what he wants when he wants and often makes terrible choices only to 180 turn on them ....then you have far less investors left that you could have.

I mean just saying we dont want to appeal to stupid people who dont understand per unit value is crazy talk. Their investment funding is as valid as the smart investors. More so because sadly there are probably more of what some would class as stupid investment money than smart money.

It's like movies... what makes more shrek or some high brow indy movie? you can say I don't care about appealing to fools or even children but you will lose every time in market share sadly. There are simply more foolish than smart.

Give people what they want. People right now want cheap per unit tokens look at the market it is telling you this even if you ignore the fact every other thread in the main board is titles...what coins under $1 OR which cheapest coins are going to go x100. Then you look and there are projects being suggested that are in the top 10 or 20 cmc that just have huge mintings and low per unit price.

Also let's get some polls for BB so we can tell really how many people want things and dont want it.

I wonder how many people would vote for a nulling of the other ICO managers BB wallets. I mean if trustless immutable decentralised are no longer important then lets get changing everything that will benefit the vast majority of BB holders.


2706  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dentacoin just went x100... AND YOU GUYS MISSED IT AGAIN. on: January 08, 2018, 01:58:12 PM
pointless waste of time project

could be done with btc or eth or any other real cc

no need for it and will likely be dead and gone within a  few months

2707  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: CoinMarketCap Excludes Korean Exchanges from XRP Price on: January 08, 2018, 01:56:30 PM
CMC need to do more things like this

they are the most dangerous site in crypto

icos should have a totally different section since they are all mostly fake caps and fake volume
2708  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Poloniex Preparing for an Exit Scam! DO _NOT_ SEND COINS THERE! on: January 08, 2018, 01:55:07 PM
not opening the xdn xcn and bbr wallets is totally ground for a lawsuit for losses caused.

There is probably proof that can be found they are using the XDN in the last huge pump to benefit from this retention of peoples coins.

If that can be proven they will likely be shut down
2709  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Which ALTS are the NEXT BIG THING? Add your Valid suggestion here now >>>>> POLL on: January 08, 2018, 01:52:29 PM
Hey, guys!

Loving this thread, actually registered just so i can join here, after 7 months of reading a lot of nonsense in other threads.   

So, with only 7 months under my belt I feel far from confident enough to make a solid analysis, and would therefore like to ask if any of you have looked into XSPEC and DNA? To me they both seem to need a lot more development, but have a pretty clear goal.



Hi All, Likewise here. I'm relatively new to Crypto and have been reading through the threads / doing my own research for last 9 months or so. Finally after much nonsence/promotion/ etc I decided to register in particular for this thread as we need more initiatives like this one to discuss useful projects in detail instead of promoting your own coin with no reasoning behind it.

Obviously I'm not allowed to vote but would personally go for ByteBall (yes i have an interest in it already). Think its great what the team are doing and definitely see a bright future.

Also wanted to thank CryptoHunter and others involved for collating useful information which is a great starting point for self research.

Keep it up!



Thanks for the kind appreciation.

We will do our best together to monitor all REAL projects that could be the next big thing.

2710  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This guy has lost 103 Bitcoins on: January 08, 2018, 01:42:47 PM
There are many stories like this, I remember a guy who threw away his hard-drive that had 7500 Bitcoins on it.
He tried to get permission to go to the landfill to try and find his HD, but the counsil didn't allow it.

So there's a hard drive with 7500 Bitcoins on a landfill somewhere, slowly decaying.

Here's a link to the story:
http://www.wired.co.uk/article/bitcoin-lost-newport-landfill

For that much you need to break in and take your chances although got to be impossible to find now

7500 btc - imagine it ... nightmare guy must be on the verge of insanity
2711  Economy / Exchanges / Re: List of Bitstamp's unresolved problems on: January 08, 2018, 01:35:08 PM
fiat withdrawals so fucking slow. weeks ...

these greedy pigs at bitstamp are still giving bonus to attract new users the dumb fucks

process the customers you do have first ffs
2712  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitstamp - complete bunch of idiots and greedy morons - problems ahead for them on: January 08, 2018, 01:29:28 PM
still taking on new customers... still clogged up.

what a bunch of greedy scum
2713  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SHIFT] The New Web | IPFS/Phantom | ShiftNrg.org Hosted Decentralized! on: January 08, 2018, 01:24:49 PM
Excellent looking project, am considering investing in this. My main question is how does this compare in uniqueness to Blocknet?

Both are good. I am now interested in both of these.
2714  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BEE2] [BEECOIN V2] POW X11/POS Hybrid - Now With CLIENT CHAT Feature! on: January 08, 2018, 01:09:09 PM
continue conversations on the new BEE coin thread here.

2 other projects are trying to take the BEE ticker right now it is important we prove our original claim to that ticker in 2014

We are not bee2 we are BEE coin.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2709601.0
2715  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / ANN - [BEE] - 2014 -2018 - BEE COIN - the original BEE === on: January 08, 2018, 01:06:26 PM
This will be the continuation of beecoins up to date thread.

Old threads

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=461550.0 ---------- original BEE coin thread from 2014

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=559876.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=601247.0


I noticed some new projects trying to take the BEE ticker. We should post here to make our intentions known to retain this ticker for BEECOIN the original BEE.

This OP will be updated in due course as the project is progressing and still in the redevelopment stage.

We are expecting the new codebase of BEE to be released shortly so check back for chances to earn BEE coins and join this project.
2716  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XRB]Cryptocurrency's killer app: RaiBlocks micropayments on: January 08, 2018, 12:59:39 PM
come on lets get on a serious exchange even kucoin is complete rubbish. Slow annoying deposits dont work.

2717  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] Stone - DAG Data-Structured Private Cryptocurrency on: January 08, 2018, 12:41:11 PM
Hi Stone supporters, apologies for the variance in communication over the last two days, a little technical insight into what stage right now, and what is currently filling my time.


   
                A DAG G                                         Transitive reduction of G


If G is a DAG, its transitive closure is the graph with the most edges that represents the same reachability relation. It has an edge u → v whenever u can reach v. That is, it has an edge for every related pair u ≤ v of distinct elements in the reachability relation of G, and may therefore be thought of as a direct translation of the reachability relation ≤ into graph-theoretic terms. The same method of translating partial orders into DAGs works more generally: for every finite partially ordered set (S, ≤), the graph that has a vertex for each member of S and an edge for each pair of elements related by u ≤ v is automatically a transitively closed DAG, and has (S, ≤) as its reachability relation. In this way, every finite partially ordered set can be represented as the reachability relation of a DAG.


The transitive reduction of a DAG G is the graph with the fewest edges that represents the same reachability relation as G. It is a subgraph of G, formed by discarding the edges u → v for which G also contains a longer path connecting the same two vertices. Like the transitive closure, the transitive reduction is uniquely defined for DAGs. In contrast, for a directed graph that is not acyclic, there can be more than one minimal subgraph with the same reachability relation.

With the 'Transitive reduction of G' it will bring some sense of privacy ontop of zk-SNARK's, which effectively will make it more secure than ZCash  Cool


Whilst i don't want to make any promises right now, i'm looking at getting another developer onboard, with the development funds provided, to get the project completed quicker, as its proving to be quite the task and larger than originally expected, are we all happy for this to go ahead? I'm also looking to get a roadmap out the door at some stage!, possibly within the next two weeks, i have quite the treat prepared in terms of a roadmap, just need to get it projected onto a graphic.


I appreciate all the donators so far, and i will be responding to PM's when i can, i will just need a little longer than usual, thank you.




felixando


When will you be using escrow for more donations?
2718  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: January 08, 2018, 12:29:02 PM
The advantage of ByteBall is also its biggest disadvantage  - the total token supply, with such low supply the investors are happy but it harder to user many zeros in front.

That is the first impression, but then you realise how many billion token you are sitting on when you think in bytes. And how undervalued it still is.

the problem is people have unit bias. if everyone wants a GB they will choose cheaper looking coins like ripple. the mass, unfortunately, at this time does not look at total supply.

Indeed, but the developers position on the matter is quite clear. https://www.reddit.com/r/ByteBall/comments/7og0x6/update_from_tony_on_5_january_2018_regarding_the/


This is why BB is way down on MC compared to iota and XRB

Sorry but a dev who can not see this and also not see why giving huge amounts of BB to competing project managers for free then pissing off real investors by stopping the full moon distributions as promised is not a dev I can say inspires much faith.

Decentralised projects should have decentralised governance if one person holds the vast bulk of the coins, controls the network, does not listen at all to the entire community then that is already a project that has failed to be trustless and decentralised.

Not trying to appeal to stupid people is not a good arguement when every thread on the main board is about finding the cheapest per unit coins.
2719  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DOGE] Dogecoin - very currency many coin - v1.10.0 on: January 08, 2018, 12:22:32 PM
even the slightest hint of development on doge would sent it past 300 sats
2720  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: IOTA - Main Italian Newspaper gives IOTA and Tangle half a page on: January 08, 2018, 12:18:42 PM
imagine when they find out about

xrb and byteball

they will get an entire center spread
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