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2721  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 31, 2017, 04:14:17 AM
Naw, seriously tho. Has anyone considered moving their entire stash onto an exchange pre-fork? I know it's drastic...

Depends on how many coins you got and which exchanges you are talking about.

You act as if guys (and girl) here have 10s or 100s of coins, and there may be quite a few here that have fewer than 5 coins...   Anyhow, maybe you can clarify what you are thinking, in terms of "entire."

Currently, I am thinking that I am not going to change my behavior too much.  I have about 20% of my coins distributed over 4 exchanges (that is 5% each.. and I don't know whether I want to be bothered to reallocate my risk any more than I already have).  I might change my mind if some exchanges make fork treatment clarifications that I consider to be unacceptable to my current level of risk and distribution of risk.

I for one am of the minnow variety. I considered moving my entire stash to an exchange. However, I've decided to keep most of my small stash in my Trezor for the fork. I know that splinting the coins might be a pain, if it appears both chains are viable. However, I'm hoping Slush and his team will make splitting easy. If not, I am sure there will be plenty of comprehensive guides that I can follow.

You mean the Trezor online wallet? Or are you using the device to secure electrum for example?

I mostly use the online interface. However, I have also interfaced it with Electrum. What issue do you have when I state the coins are in my Trezor? Should I have worded it to say that I am keeping my coins in addresses/public keys whose corresponding private keys are stored in my Trezor?  Huh
2722  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PoS] BitcoinStake - 100% Free Airdrop Distribution on: October 31, 2017, 04:08:50 AM

all i am getting is conflicted blocks, all day, on both (!!!) bitcoinstake and usdstake. it looks like i am not the only one. what should we do?

Go into the Debug window under the help tab. Chose the console tab and type in repairwallet. I hope that will help.

2723  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Gold : Make Bitcoin Decentralized Again on: October 31, 2017, 03:54:24 AM
when the deposit avaible for every exchanger?

At the earliest, will be November 1st. May have to wait a little longer for the BTG dev team to get their shit together. Then, we have to wait for each exchange to get their shit together. Also, I highly doubt every exchange is going to participate.
2724  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 31, 2017, 03:51:18 AM
when it gets real boring like this I advocate drunk trading

I don't drink. However, as a Colorado resident, I have ready access to another substance. Do you think that will be an adequate substitute?
2725  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 31, 2017, 03:31:35 AM
^Just wait untill youre Trezor gives you the option to move the shitcoins just like they did with Bcash.

Ohh, Bcash is going to HF around 13 Nov...they're going to 'fix' the manipulation with more manipulation... law.

Slush will probably do the right thing. However, he's not exactly thrilled over S2X fork.  Trezor might be hung up on implementing a coin splitting solution due to no replay protection. Trezor refuses to implement a BTG split until they see the code has strong replay protection.
2726  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 31, 2017, 03:02:15 AM
Naw, seriously tho. Has anyone considered moving their entire stash onto an exchange pre-fork? I know it's drastic...

Depends on how many coins you got and which exchanges you are talking about.

You act as if guys (and girl) here have 10s or 100s of coins, and there may be quite a few here that have fewer than 5 coins...   Anyhow, maybe you can clarify what you are thinking, in terms of "entire."

Currently, I am thinking that I am not going to change my behavior too much.  I have about 20% of my coins distributed over 4 exchanges (that is 5% each.. and I don't know whether I want to be bothered to reallocate my risk any more than I already have).  I might change my mind if some exchanges make fork treatment clarifications that I consider to be unacceptable to my current level of risk and distribution of risk.

I for one am of the minnow variety. I considered moving my entire stash to an exchange. However, I've decided to keep most of my small stash in my Trezor for the fork. I know that splinting the coins might be a pain, if it appears both chains are viable. However, I'm hoping Slush and his team will make splitting easy. If not, I am sure there will be plenty of comprehensive guides that I can follow.
2727  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 31, 2017, 02:52:07 AM
The person did in on Bitmex. If he had 100x leverage, he only lost USD $480K. If he did 25X leverage, he only lost 1.92 Million. Still, a lot of money. Judging from the amount of the rise yesterday, he probably had it on at least 15x leverage, which would be 3.2 million.

I could be wrong though. He could have had lower leverage and has had the short open for quite sometime, and lost more money. If that were the case though, he should have cut his loses long ago.

I don't trade on Bitmex, but looking at their margin requirements, you can't do 100x on such a large position. At ~7800BTC, your margin would need to be around 38% judging by their formulas: https://www.bitmex.com/app/riskLimits

Also, you sure it's Bitmex? I'm pretty sure it's OKEX, as their contracts are $100 per.

You're right. It was OKEX according to this tweet. https://twitter.com/whalecalls/status/924886664123768832 Person may have been at 20X or 10x according to a reply to the tweet and lost 2.4 or 4.8 million.
2728  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 31, 2017, 12:13:23 AM

The person did in on Bitmex. If he had 100x leverage, he only lost USD $480K. If he did 25X leverage, he only lost 1.92 Million. Still, a lot of money. Judging from the amount of the rise yesterday, he probably had it on at least 15x leverage, which would be 3.2 million.

I could be wrong though. He could have had lower leverage and has had the short open for quite sometime, and lost more money. If that were the case though, he should have cut his loses long ago.
2729  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ZEC] ZCASH - All coins are created equal. Discussion Thread (Unofficial) on: October 30, 2017, 11:56:07 PM
Does ZEC have its own official site on this forum?

I'm asking because I can't find anything except these page.
AFAIK, Zooko never made an official thread on this forum. You can follow him on Twitter, though. You will also get information on his special meat eating diet as well. Cheesy
2730  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PoS] BitcoinStake - 100% Free Airdrop Distribution on: October 30, 2017, 11:49:46 PM
How is my account is protected? Which security systems do you use? How can I be sure my tokens are safe?

You can encrypt the wallet (password protect it.) Since the wallet runs as a program on the computer, and your private keys will be stored on a data file on your computer, you will be responsible for making sure your computer is secure and you do not get malware that will steal your coins.
2731  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 30, 2017, 11:42:26 PM
OK, I will be getting a computer in a few days. I just made a full back up to a CD of my Byteball wallet. When I set up the byteball wallet on my new computer, I should retain both my Bytes and Blackbytes without a hitch. Right? I'm also going to be transferring files between computers with PC Mover. I doubt PC Mover will able to transfer all my altcoin wallet data too. (Would be nice if it did.)
2732  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 30, 2017, 02:43:40 AM


They must have funded the marketing campaign with the 2 cents that I left to them when I abandoned my account in 1997. Grin

Is that the account that you opened, or the account they opened for you?

The account was originally opened at a bank that they acquired. I never picked them. Grin
2733  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 30, 2017, 02:19:39 AM
Wells Fargo just started a really top drawer marketing campaign on our behalf.

https://imgur.com/FwxvyQu



They must have funded the marketing campaign with the 2 cents that I left to them when I abandoned my account in 1997. Grin
2734  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 30, 2017, 02:16:18 AM

Did i miss the /s mark? Or there's seriously someone out there that thinks that $2.0B 24hr volume on a $7.9B market cab is normal trades... so every 4days every single coin should change hands? Then I have a bridge to sell you  Grin     

I'm not arguing against the obvious BCH market manipulation. I'm only pointing out the the magical mystery miner stash is not being used. There is still all of that BCH that Wright, Ver and Wu were granted at the moment of the hardfork though. Plus, I am sure the trio still own a vast amount of BTC to play with too. Thank goodness that Wright is most probably the Anti-Satoshi and does not have access to the private key of those ~1M BTC (and now 1M BCH too) mined years ago.

Don't be foolish with any kind of nonsense speculation that Wright could actually have any thing even close to accessing Satoshi's coins, unless he happened to figure out some way to actually hack the addresses (which would actually be a BIGGER problem than any kind of pie in the sky chance that Wright actually did have some kind of access to the satoshi coins).  

What? We must have a different meaning of what "most probably" entails. In my vernacular 99.99999999999....% is most probably. Also, how is me inferring that he is the Anti-Satoshi equate to me giving serious credence to his claims?


O.k... Bones261.  

 Let's make up, then.  

I will go first.  

Kiss  

 Kiss


 Kiss



Your turn.

2735  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 30, 2017, 01:15:41 AM

Did i miss the /s mark? Or there's seriously someone out there that thinks that $2.0B 24hr volume on a $7.9B market cab is normal trades... so every 4days every single coin should change hands? Then I have a bridge to sell you  Grin     

I'm not arguing against the obvious BCH market manipulation. I'm only pointing out the the magical mystery miner stash is not being used. There is still all of that BCH that Wright, Ver and Wu were granted at the moment of the hardfork though. Plus, I am sure the trio still own a vast amount of BTC to play with too. Thank goodness that Wright is most probably the Anti-Satoshi and does not have access to the private key of those ~1M BTC (and now 1M BCH too) mined years ago.

Don't be foolish with any kind of nonsense speculation that Wright could actually have any thing even close to accessing Satoshi's coins, unless he happened to figure out some way to actually hack the addresses (which would actually be a BIGGER problem than any kind of pie in the sky chance that Wright actually did have some kind of access to the satoshi coins).  

What? We must have a different meaning of what "most probably" entails. In my vernacular 99.99999999999....% is most probably. Also, how is me inferring that he is the Anti-Satoshi equate to me giving serious credence to his claims?
2736  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 29, 2017, 09:34:08 PM

Nope you can generate 21M in volume just with a single BCH going back and forth 21M times. There's no need for huge stashes. Plus exchanges can always generate volume out of thin air and they don't need to have coins to back it up on paper. Look at OKcoin and whoboi volumes the day the hammer on wash trades came down

1 Coin going back and forth 21 M times? Is that really what is going on?  What sucker is that dumb to fall for that kind of bullshit? Are the Koreans on Bithumb really that gullible? They are at least making the amounts vary a little bit? Right? Otherwise it looks like typical Yobit fake volume.   Roll Eyes
2737  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 29, 2017, 08:30:54 PM
My chart watching be like:

2738  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 29, 2017, 06:57:20 PM
I'm not arguing against the obvious BCH market manipulation. I'm only pointing out the the magical mystery miner stash is not being used.  

You've been answered multiple times. This shouldn't be so hard to understand. They can't use it because nobody is buying this altcashit. To use it they have to sell it to themselves...

Selling it to themselves would be called a wash trade. It is a tactic that can be used to generate fake volume.  Roll Eyes Almost 92,000 extra BCH could be used to create dramatic effects in fake volume if used in wash trades. No?


It doesn't surprise me that their mined coins aren't going anywhere. And how could they with 4 hr block times? Lol


The blocks were coming in at about once a minute just yesterday. They have had plenty of opportunities to move those coins in supersonic times if they wanted to.  Cheesy The way the BCH blockchain moves, it is similar to the Goldilocks fairy tail. Too hot, too cold, just right. Too hard, too soft, just right. Only big problem with the just right blocks is at those times the two mystery miners are mining over 97 % of the blocks.
2739  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 29, 2017, 06:29:12 PM

Did i miss the /s mark? Or there's seriously someone out there that thinks that $2.0B 24hr volume on a $7.9B market cab is normal trades... so every 4days every single coin should change hands? Then I have a bridge to sell you  Grin     

I'm not arguing against the obvious BCH market manipulation. I'm only pointing out the the magical mystery miner stash is not being used. There is still all of that BCH that Wright, Ver and Wu were granted at the moment of the hardfork though. Plus, I am sure the trio still own a vast amount of BTC to play with too. Thank goodness that Wright is most probably the Anti-Satoshi and does not have access to the private key of those ~1M BTC (and now 1M BCH too) mined years ago.
2740  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 29, 2017, 05:45:14 PM

Since Ver/Wu/Wright own 97% of BCH mining, they can do the following:

1. Mine BCH, wash trade, and accumulate BCH on the down low

2. Switch mining hashrate from BTC to BCH

3. Pump BCH, lock up mining blocks, trade BCH for BTC into the pump

4. Switch hashrate back to BTC, pump BTC

5. Sell traded BTC into the pump, or just hold on to it (making them wealthier).

6. Profit

I contend that BCH is still just a money making scam to them. Sad that anyone would fall for that garbage. They don't want BCH, they want your Bitcoin. You'll see all that here soon, when you see BCH drop and BTC start to rise again.

And don't think for a second that their little operation isn't being "subsidized" by outside elements.

The problem with your assessment is that the two major mystery miners(probably two farms run by Jihan Wu) have not moved any of the coins that they mined.

https://www.blocktrail.com/BCC/address/17Wk4GPKw9nZ9PbspzaxN3fv1L2m9NA9dg/transactions/out/0
https://www.blocktrail.com/BCC/address/1BgatB78WrFLdCgnPnBqiDcNFFA46jkPZe/transactions/out/0


That's very interesting. So they are accumulating and betting on some future pump.

They are accumulating because they have no choice. Nobody else is buying altcash shit.


Of course they have a choice. They could use their mined stash to do wash trades and give the appearance of high volume. But they are not doing that either. However, Bitcoin Cash is planning to do a hardfork around the time of the S2X hard fork. They are planning on coming up with a different difficulty adjustment algorithm to replace the EDA.
https://www.bitsonline.com/bitcoin-cash-hard-fork/
The developers claim that the timing of the hardfork has absolutely nothing to do with the upcoming S2x hardfork. (Right...I believe that.  Roll Eyes)
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