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2761  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Expecting new Desktop in a week with GTX 1070. Worth it to mine? on: October 28, 2017, 04:35:11 AM
i am mining with 2 1080 in a closed case. Runs very quite!

Good. I hope mine runs quiet as well. Can't stand the high pitched whine of loud fans.

Your desktop configuration is good, GTX 1070 is one of best choice I think. With a 600W PSU, you even could add 1 more GTX 1070 which has TDP is only 150W, for me I usually set power limit at 75-85% depend on PSU quality. Btw, if your GPU stays around <70C, it can last in very very long time.

I can't wait to get my new computer.  Cheesy I have only tinkered with GPU mining since the computer that I have at the moment only has an AMD 7570. It will be great not to have to rent hash if I want to mine a new coin that comes along. Maybe I will warm up to ETH, ZEC and Monero if I can actually mine it myself.
2762  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 28, 2017, 03:40:06 AM
Whats the main reason for this pump? Is it people realizing that BCH is the best fork yet?

Some people may prefer Jihan Wu leading the future of Bitcoin rather than Blockstream or Garzik. Pick your poison, I guess.  Roll Eyes
2763  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Expecting new Desktop in a week with GTX 1070. Worth it to mine? on: October 28, 2017, 01:25:21 AM
it isn't decent, no SSD?

I thought the Optane memory drive will help with the speed of reading and writing to the hard disk. I want the capacity of a HDD to store my large music library.

who cares about any other hardware past the 1070 for mining..

If it has it, use it.

My single 1070 in my gaming PC mines the rest of the time its not actively being used.   That card has already paid for itself and then some.  I was lucky and bought during the last hot streak and ROI'd pretty damned fast.

My old 980 Earned ~3x what I bought it for... before I replaced it with a 1070 and put it in one of my miner chassis..... and today, is still on 24/7.

Isn't the power supply also important? Is 600W good enough if I want to upgrade the card in the future?
2764  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Received new Desktop in a week with GTX 1070. Worth it to mine? on: October 28, 2017, 12:38:44 AM
I just bought a brand new computer that I am expecting sometime next week. It has a GTX 1070 and a 600 W power supply. Does anyone recommend that I try to mine with the new desktop? I'm just paranoid that mining will make my computer have a short life. The computer is liquid cooled for the CPU, but I am not sure about the GPU. Probably the GPU has to rely on air cooling.(I must admit, when I bought it last night, I did pick a GTX 1070 because I was hoping to mine with it, since I am not a gamer. I read an article that makes it appear that although the GTX 1070 get less hashrate than a GTX 1080, the GTX 1070 is more power efficient.)
Here is the link to what I bought. Hope that I picked something decent. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883230240
2765  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [AXIOM] AxiomMemHash, Schnorr Sigs Implemented, APOS 3.0, AXH 2.0 Proposed on: October 25, 2017, 11:27:31 PM
Every day so many projects, which one is good, which one is bad, the head is dizzy, support the author, I hope the author can make the project successful!!


The Dev team abandoned this coin over two years ago...
2766  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 25, 2017, 12:58:15 AM
https://twitter.com/bitstein/status/922925519133220864

Basically, the NYA/SegWit2x was manufactured controversy by @barrysilbert and @jgarzik so they could pump their shitcoin.


I hope that their new ERC20 token goes over almost as well as the DAO did. Smiley
2767  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 25, 2017, 12:47:24 AM
Bitmain are releasing a new batch of the S9 and only accepting Bitcoin cash as payment

https://twitter.com/BITMAINtech/status/922785788261163008

I would say the future is bright for bcash...

The batch before this one also only accepted Bitcoin Cash and their latest L3 batch only accepted Bitcoin Cash as well. I'm glad Wu is showing his full support for Bitcoin Cash. However, he's going to have to do even more than he's already doing to make this coin soar.
2768  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HASHNEST Discussion and Support Thread on: October 24, 2017, 10:56:41 PM

its their hot wallet, and they are just lazy, glad ill dont have hash, but intend to reinvest after the fork a little BIT, not more then 1/3 capital ,... by the way will they support BTC gold like BCH?

I would be surprised if they support Bitcoin Gold. Bitcoin Gold is basically trying to flip the bird to Bitmain.


I don't believe they will either. BCC was a fork with a 'minor' tweak, which Bitmain would have loved to see implemented in the BTC; they supported the BCC, and are even mining them themselves. Bitcoin Gold however, is a totally different story for them...  Cheesy


this was in my messages on Hashnest today:
Hashnest policy about BTG hardfork

1. Hashnest will make a snap shot of your BTC wallet balance at beijing time 2017/10/24 24:00 and we'll provide 1:1 BTG to you as the snap shot;
2. If the BTG is not running stable, or with high security risk, we'll discard BTG;
3. If BTG is running stable and secure, Hashnest will deliver the BTG as 1:1 to your wallet and will let you the withdraw time in another notice.
Hashnest
2017/10/24

Wow, that is very nice of them. Too bad that my BTC balance was only like 20K sats at the time.  Grin
2769  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 24, 2017, 02:48:35 AM
Money flowing back into alts post BTG...

why?

sell off should be Thursday, Friday as bitcoin gold all done

fake sell off, profit taking (likely, excellent amount of buy orders to sell into)

this dump has me stumped



DCG or some other whale probably decided the alts needed a little love. Probably, because they've been accumulating them.
2770  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 24, 2017, 01:33:09 AM
Can someone explain the hate towards btg?

I don't know much about it, but making it mineable with gpu's should make it more decentralized, or no?

What's so wrong with it?

Thanks!

Well, so far Trezor and Bittrex have indicated that the code is not ready. At least what they have to review. Furthermore, they want to premine 100K coins. Although the futures are going for about .083BTC on Yobit, now, that is meaningless. I am certain that as soon as BTG goes live, which may be much longer than the Nov 1 target date, this will be probably dumped to a very low value. It might not even be worth it for a whale to figure out how to claim their coins. I certainly hope this doesn't become a trend. I'm sure exchanges and wallet vendors have enough to do than arrange for ways that their users can get every new forkchain. Maybe if BTC wins a resounding victory against the S2X fork and the BTG fork quickly become irrelevant wil discourage this from continuing.
If you want a GPU mineable coin, there are many hundreds to chose from already. Why does the chain have to share most of it's history with the BTC chain?
2771  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [AXIOM] AxiomMemHash, Schnorr Sigs Implemented, APOS 3.0, AXH 2.0 Proposed on: October 24, 2017, 12:05:31 AM
Was the gpu miner ever open sourced ?

I do not think it ever was. The developers of the GPU miners wanted about 3 BTC, I believe. I thought it was outrageous, at the time, but now looking back at it, people need to get paid for their work. 3 BTC back then was really not that much to ask. (Probably a bit much, now.  Cheesy)
2772  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 23, 2017, 05:35:46 AM

I find it strange that when the mention of a floating structure in the huge ocean comes up, pirates are the immediate thought in everyone's mind yet when someone talks about going into space...no talk of space pirates. I suppose only in space people are civil. Go out on the ocean...we revert to the 1600s.

I'm not sure what science fiction you've been exposed to. Space people are not exactly being civil to one another in most samples that I can think of. Quite the contrary.  Grin

Yes, the movies for both have shown many battles.

But when the discussion of us going to Mars has come up, I have yet to see someone say  "aren't you worried about space pirates?".

Not at first. The cost of space travel will be too astronomical for any enterprise, including a criminal enterprise, to profit. However, rest assured, as soon as the technology improves enough for the costs to come down, the space pirates will show up soon enough to pillage and plunder everything they can. It may even be more rampant than the high seas, since the vast reaches of outer space are going to be much more difficult to patrol than the high seas. Like on the scale of billions and billions of times more difficult.
2773  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Gold : Make Bitcoin Decentralized Again on: October 23, 2017, 05:06:40 AM
Just saw on bleutrade that BitGold is trading (IOU) at .06 BTC do you guys think the price will remain the same after the launch?

I doubt it. After launch, the exchanges will be subjected to the real supply flooding in from people disposing of their free coins as quick as they can figure out how. You will also have a supply of fresh coins from the miners. A fair amount of those coins will get dumped on the market as well. Furthermore, it appears this coin is going to be released with a reasonable difficulty, and frequent retargets. (Like every block, I believe.) Unlike Bitcoin Cash, there isn't going to be the initial period where blocks are only coming in once every hour or so. The supply should be coming in about once every ten minutes. Therefore, the bids are not going to have time to build up, like they did initially for Bitcoin Cash. I see a high likelihood of the initial market being quite bearish. However, maybe some whales have different plans. Hype, then pump, then dump is also a very real possibility. Unfortunately, this BitcoinGold team just do not strike me as the best marketers. Are there any big names in Crypto hyping this coin right now? (Not just disseminating information, but actually hyping it.)
2774  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Gold : Make Bitcoin Decentralized Again on: October 23, 2017, 04:25:18 AM
Snapshot date is near but still not much info...

Lol Smiley because they dont want to release anything..How do you guys believe these people?

That's why I do not intend to buy any BTG futures on Yobit. I will gladly take the BTC someone is willing to give me for said futures, though. Oh and before I get the lecture that I should never leave my BTC on an exchange, the counterparty risk of doing so is not infinite. I have what I consider a reasonable amount that I am willing to risk in order to have the opportunity to get a quick 4-5% gain.
2775  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 23, 2017, 04:12:29 AM

I find it strange that when the mention of a floating structure in the huge ocean comes up, pirates are the immediate thought in everyone's mind yet when someone talks about going into space...no talk of space pirates. I suppose only in space people are civil. Go out on the ocean...we revert to the 1600s.

I'm not sure what science fiction you've been exposed to. Space people are not exactly being civil to one another in most samples that I can think of. Quite the contrary.  Grin
2776  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 23, 2017, 02:49:51 AM


Unfortunately, the vast majority of people do not have the resources to set up their own seastead. If they want to participate, they would just have to ride along under the rule of some privileged fat cat. I suppose some of us losers could get together, and form a collective. However, in the end, I'm sure the individuals with the most Machiavellian traits will lord over the rest. In the end, the privileged few will enjoy all of the benefits and the rest of us will continue to be mere chattel subject to our master's mercy, or lack thereof.

Perhaps my views have been swayed a little too much by the books, "Animal Farm" and "Lord of the Flies." However, these two works of fiction seem to have more underlying truth to them then most of the fiction we get fed on a daily basis with the MSM.

Future seasteads (in the open ocean) would likely be small communities. No need to own your own seastead (do you own your own housing association/trailer park/apartment complex/town?). Seasteads will likely be groupings of floating homes or platforms providing housing, each with their own sets of rules and expectations. From the looks of the work we are doing on the first seasteads almost everything will be blockchain based. Pick the seastead that most closely fits your ideals of how a community should be run, and move there. If they stray, move to another seastead. If some new concept pops up that sounds better than what you have, move there. Either by selling your home or floating your new home depending on how things are set up.

From the first peeks at the numbers I can say that the housing costs will not be too different from ocean front property, some less some more. As things scale that price will certainly come down.

I don't know. This sounds too much like a commune to me. What would happen to the poor souls that end up joining the wrong seastead and end up literally drinking the Kool-Aid? Also, what is to prevent some seastead communities from deciding to become pirates and pillage and plunder other communities. Might would make right. Perhaps some smaller seastead communities would join forces, for mutual defense. Then I am sure that the individual with the most Machiavellian traits will rise to prominent positions. Many of the work horses would end up serving the pigs, once again. Cheesy
2777  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 23, 2017, 01:17:31 AM


Unfortunately, the vast majority of people do not have the resources to set up their own seastead. If they want to participate, they would just have to ride along under the rule of some privileged fat cat. I suppose some of us losers could get together, and form a collective. However, in the end, I'm sure the individuals with the most Machiavellian traits will lord over the rest. In the end, the privileged few will enjoy all of the benefits and the rest of us will continue to be mere chattel subject to our master's mercy, or lack thereof.

Perhaps my views have been swayed a little too much by the books, "Animal Farm" and "Lord of the Flies." However, these two works of fiction seem to have more underlying truth to them then most of the fiction we get fed on a daily basis with the MSM.
2778  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 23, 2017, 01:02:16 AM

I would worry more that the cash miners support B2X more and jump over leaving cash dead like all the other failed forks before it (classic, xt, unlimited)

The Segwit2x futures only put at at around 1.5 BTC or ~$900 so far its not looking like much of a threat but it it does succeed we still have all our coins on the other chain  

Also the miners are trying to force the EDA right now (one reduction is already guaranteed to happen)

Well at least they actually went through with the Bitcoin Cash fork. Classic, Xt and Unlimited never even got to germinate since no one was willing to lead the charge. I think Segwit 2X is more of a threat, because they actually have designated a particular block; so they definitely know exactly when they have to all start to charge, in a coordinated manner. However, with no replay protection, I wonder how many of these miners will actually participate in the mutiny they all keep pledging that they will, with their "signaling." We'll see how many of them actually have the balls and which will just quietly go on mining the original chain.
2779  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 23, 2017, 12:11:45 AM
Women vote more uniformly than men, which means the moment women got the vote, women controlled politics. And women always vote for more security at the expense of freedom. Which, as every american knows, means you will get neither.


This explains why there's no women into bitcoin. Bitcoin is all freedom and very risky.

Women's nature is passive. There's no way to change it, despite what hysterical feminists want.



Passive or passive-aggressive? There is a difference... Oh well, what the hell do I know about women?  Cheesy
2780  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 22, 2017, 11:38:45 PM
A SJW is a communist. We use a different term at the moment because humans are frightened animals that refuse to accept that we are sliding back towards state totalitarianism.

I didn't realize there was an actual time period since the dawn of civilization where we slipped out of state totalitarianism. So not quite sure how we are going slip back into a state that we are already in. Cheesy

Sure, some forms may appear more benign than others. However, when push comes to shove, any government will show it's true nature and unleash its full power over the "common" people. I don't care what label you put on it. Communism, socialism, democracy, fuedalism, imperialism, rebublic: all just the same bullshit. Just repackaged. And no, I'm not an anarchist either. Mob rule, which is what anarchy would degrade to, would be just as bad.
There wasn't. That's the point. History is a cycle. It goes from some kind of mass dieoff (war, plague, famine - death in whatever cloak) to a thriving civilization to decadence to decline to another dieoff.

We are currently declining, and millions if not billions of people will soon die. Places like Venezuela are just the start.

And democracy is mob rule. BEFORE women got the right to vote, we did not have mob rule.

We had mob rule because the States all decided to turn the electoral college into what is now 50 individual popularity contests, and decided to let people "vote" for Senators rather than them being appointed by (hopefully) qualified individuals. Women being allowed to vote is usually just additional rubber stamps on what their particular clan believes anyway. And if you really think women had no role in what their particular "clan" believes, who throughout history usually had the main role of rearing the young ones and instilling the values in them?
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