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How is this different than DRM? Seems like they just put a new name on DRM.
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Ugh...
Not happy about seeing bitcoin discussed on a website like that...
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This looks great. But why such short notice?
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Just out of curiosity, what hashrate were you hoping for?
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Actually, I don't even know if you're even smart enough to be a shill and actually get paid for providing misinformation. I'm not sure what you are but I'm honestly not too surprised. This being bitcoin and all...
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If mem ignores what has been pointed out by myself and Syke, then it seems what you say would be true.
If he's going to do that he probably shouldn't have even posted in the first place. Reason being that if he doesn't acknowledge the true facts that are laid out in this thread it will be hard evidence showing that the list is a sham.
Obviously if he comes to his senses and actually looks at what has gone on here that won't be the case. And he won't lose credibility from this specific thread. Although there seem to be other things going on that I wasn't aware of before that do not pertain to the matter we are discussing now.
The decision has already been made, dont like it email me with your reasoned argument. Quoting that racist scammer MPO-ER is not doing you any favours. Well obviously the truth is of no concern to you. Good luck with you list and congratulations on proving beyond a reasonable doubt that you are a shill. |
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I will say I paid in full for more than just my Little Single.
Thank you Luke. Now we are down to semantics, was the unit delivered to you LukeJr or did you pick it up ? Excellent! Now we have Luke-jr agreeing that the bet should have been called a Win. Read the bet: which leads to: 1) BitForce SC Jalapeno: a USB powered coffee warmer providing 3.5 GH/s, priced at under $149
2) BitForce SC Single: a standalone unit providing roughly 40 GH/s, priced at $1,299
3) BitForce SC Mini Rig: a case & rack mount server providing 1 TH/s, priced at $29,899
Notice that the Little Single that Luke-jr "received" is not listed, and thus cannot be considered for the bet. You are wasting your breath. Mem is a dishonest piece of shit, he's here strictly to fish for possible reasons he might use to justify - no matter how superficially - propping this scamsite. He's trolling some other thread looking for the exact reverse, possible reasons he might use to justify - no matter how superficially - mislabeling the one actual betting site as a scam. (He's not listed it at all for the past...3 months or so. Apparently the fact that BitBet killed Betsofbitco.in in the marketplace is kinda difficult to swallow for his employer.) He has a history of shady dealing of this sort. His concern is singular: to somehow scrape together something which which may be confused with an argument in favor of his sponsors by noobs/clueless people. That is all. Shilling, in other words. PS. Mem, you might as well go make a new handle. This one is screwed. If mem ignores what has been pointed out by myself and Syke, then it seems what you say would be true. If he's going to do that he probably shouldn't have even posted in the first place. Reason being that if he doesn't acknowledge the true facts that are laid out in this thread it will be hard evidence showing that the list is a sham. Obviously if he comes to his senses and actually looks at what has gone on here that won't be the case. And he won't lose credibility from this specific thread. Although there seem to be other things going on that I wasn't aware of before that do not pertain to the matter we are discussing now. |
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Also, I appreciate that you're trying to look at this objectively. But do not expect Luke to give straight answers to your questions. I would be pleasantly surprised however if he just all of a sudden decided to stop being deceptive and just gave you honest answers. |
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• Before April 1st 2013, at least one BFL customer with a bitcointalk.org forum account established prior to the bet's opening date shall post detailed and credible photos of the device on the forum, including photos of it operating, and report its hashrate. This customer cannot be a BFL employee. So my only remaining question at this point is, was LukeJr a customer of BFL ? Yes = outcome FALSE No = outcome TRUE Yes. I won't disclose my total purchase quantity, but I will say I paid in full for more than just my Little Single. Thank you Luke. Now we are down to semantics, was the unit delivered to you LukeJr or did you pick it up ? edit:
de·liv·er /diˈlivər/ Verb Bring and hand over (a letter, parcel, or ordered goods) to the proper recipient or address. Formally hand over (someone). Synonyms hand over - rescue
Full disclosure my english sucks, but looking @ the literal definition of deliver luke could arrive at BFL hq and had the parcel given to him in person and it would still be considered delivered. Im reviewing the bet statement again to see if there is anything else. edit2:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ShippingWell now it gets even more difficult, since we are down to semantics "ship" or "shipping" implies a vessel would carry the item/package to its destination. So a person to person transfer would not be considered shipping. Did the development board(ie not one of the products listed to be eligible for the bet) even leave the BFL offices? All the pictures show is the board hooked up to Josh(or BFL's) killawatt on a desk in the BFL office. |
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• Before April 1st 2013, at least one BFL customer with a bitcointalk.org forum account established prior to the bet's opening date shall post detailed and credible photos of the device on the forum, including photos of it operating, and report its hashrate. This customer cannot be a BFL employee. So my only remaining question at this point is, was LukeJr a customer of BFL ? Yes = outcome FALSE No = outcome TRUE Regarding the bet being hosted despite being open to interpretation - very very bad form on the part of betsofbitco.in - this makes them (in this instance at least) incompetent but not scammers. Myself and a workmate both were eyeing off this bet but decided against it due to the wording being to vague. If this kind of thing keeps happening I do not see a future for bitcoin wagering sites. They didn't ship anything, therefore there is no need to parse that condition. And the development board shown in the picture does not qualify for the bet even if they had actually shipped him that. You are the guy who does that awesome list. I was just thinking about that a couple of days ago and that someone should contact you to let you know what has happened. |
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Unfortunately I don't have anything to contribute. I'm one of the oldest members of this board and actually had the chance to communicate with Satoshi, but all this communication was via forum posts. If you want to know more about what kind of a person he was (and propably still is) and what his ideals and ideas for bitcoin have been, I recommend to read his forum posts, beginning with the oldest: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3;sa=showPosts;start=520(don't expect any personal stuff, it's mostly dev talk, but you see what he thought bitcoin should be like) Wow, 2009. You are not kidding! How did you find out about bitcoin so early? |
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Are you considering doing any bitcoin related projects in Thailand?
Most people won't understand it. But if they can see/know that you can exchange it for baht, people will love it.
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On the other hand, everyone should be aware that BFL has a poor reputation at best and should expect this kind of bad behavior.
This should not excuse what they did. I still would love to hear any argument from anyone as to why they should not be given scammer tags. No one has defended or even denied what they did. I'd like to see some sort of statement from Theymos. Even if it's just something like: "It's my forum and I'm not giving Luke or Inaba scammer tags period." |
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I think you are quite egocentristic, you believe you deserve TWO threads for yourself personally in Bitcoin Discussion? Nobody knows/cares who you are.
You are very wrong. |
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QuantPlus, are you R-----Plus?
You got into Bitcoins? You must be loaded by now.
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Oh my god. You discovered the big secret.
It's over guys.
The cat is out of the bag.
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Zhoutong:
How do you feel about your name being often(I think? I don't watch every episode) mentioned in a negative light on a widely viewed international television network?
For others who may not be aware: Max Keiser uses the phrase "Zhoutonged" in a derogatory manner on the news network Russia Today(RT).
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