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2781  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: May 14, 2022, 07:16:13 AM
~snip

FAA lost, in straight sets, wasn't able to watch the game but by looking at the scores, it was really closed.


mental strength was a decider, and Djokovic is much better in this sets, where all came to tie-break, or last gem
Alcaraz was good enough to beat him in tie-breaks, and that puts him into top players, FAA lacks that strength, and that is enough for top10, but hardly enough for top5

interesting matches today, Zverev and Tsitsi as usual semi-final match lately

I caught the second set from about 4 games in, as the score line suggests FAA gave
Djokovic a good game, some of the winners from both players were phenominal and
for FAA to bring the second set to a tie break after being broken early on shows 2 things,
Djokovic can be troubled and FAA has improved a lot in 12 months. Yea I also think the difference
in the Tie Break was mental strength and ability, Djokovic seemed to be able to bring up his
level but Felix not. Very entertaining watch though
2782  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Rugby] Union | League // Super|6s|7s|Pro14 | Cups & Tours | Olympics Touch..... on: May 13, 2022, 08:33:23 PM
A little late, but I'm going for the Knights over the Bulldogs and then the Broncos to beat the Sea Eagles later on. (The first game is already underway)

Canterbury Bulldogs - Newcastle Knights Money Line Newcastle Knights @ 2.15 Taken Amount: 0.10 mBTC Possible Payout: 0.21 mBTC
Manly Sea Eagles - Brisbane Broncos Money Line Brisbane Broncos @ 2.37 Taken Amount: 0.10 mBTC Possible Payout: 0.237 mBTC


A little later on and I'm already two from two.

snip

Melbourne Storm - Penrith Panthers
Money Line
Melbourne Storm @ 2.17
Taken Amount: 0.10 mBTC
Possible Payout: 0.217 mBTC


Two good picks so far Timelord! I'm somewhat impressed so far by the Broncos this season,
I wish the same could be said for the Rabbitohs and Eels. Still its early in the season but at
the halfway point I would like to see them securing their spots in the top 6.

Ooh thats a fearless bet on the Storm v Panthers game, this could go either way, I'm not
chancing it.
2783  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: May 13, 2022, 05:48:41 PM
Ah its a pity for Sinner, he was the last Italian on the Mens side uo to today.
He needs to develop to the next stage to be able to compete with Tsitsipas,
Zverev and Rublev for example or actually anyone in the top10. Maybe thats
why he changed his coaching team or part of it.

I am unconvinced too about Shapovalov, he has unpredictable performances
even from game to game.

One game left today FAA v Djokovic, I cant see an upset here really.

So 3 of the semi finalists are known at this stage:
Ruud, Zverev and Tsitsipas.
2784  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: May 13, 2022, 06:09:23 AM
We can expect probobly Alcaraz and Djokovic at the French Open final . They are currently the best in the world and i think no one can stop them. Djokovic is finally picking up form and looks really good on the field and is winning now really easy against some solid opponents
Brave statement, to exclude Nadal from RG final Smiley Don't get me wrong I agree with your choices and based on current form Nadal is not title contender but it is RG and I just know he will show up there as totally different player. Those BO5 matches at RG just give him so much time to turn the match his way and I sort of expect him to prove once again who is the king of clay. Granted, this year he has a new contender and Alcaraz will have some say in the matter as well.
I somewhat agree, I mean we all know that Nadal is the king of clay and he really performed good during a 5 setter because maybe of his advantage to read the game and adjust in the middle to win. So it will be a good tournament for sure, we have a new rising star in Alcaraz, but I think Nadal or Djokovic will not be discounted as one of the favorites as well. If Alcaraz goes to the finals and eventually win then there will be no question about who is the next young player to take over.

Well guys Nadal was beaten yesterday by Shapovalov in 3 sets and Nadal has picked
up a foot injury, although not serious there has to be a big question mark over him in
a possible 5 set match or a number of them throughout the RG tournament.

Its a bit sad Alcaraz Is not playing in this tournament Sad

But hopefully it means he'll be fully refreshed and ready to go for the French Open, which would be great. I'd rather he skip a tournament now and be fit for Roland Garros rather than play at say 80% there.

Meanwhile, with Alcaraz out of the way, I suppose the big potential match-up in this tournament is Nadal vs Djokovic. If this happens, I'd probably favour Nadal... I think the way the draw is, they'd meet up in the semi.


BTW I've never understood tournaments where the semis are 1 vs 3 and 2 vs 4. Shouldn't it always be 1 vs 4 and 2 vs 3?

As an Italian fan of tennis I do not hide... that I would have really liked to see him play here in Rome. obviously I am aware it is not the best tournament where he can play and after the last two successes he has to prepare for tournaments with a better ranking.
I Hope the wait is worth it Roll Eyes

With his current form he would have been a contender for at least a place in the final.
I personally think taking a break before RG is a good decision, its only 1 week and
it gives the body a chance to be 100% fit or as close to that as possible. He has a lot
of Tennis played and won and is clearly targeting his first GS win at RG.
2785  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 1 BTC = 1 BTC. You only lose if you sell. You're buying inflationary fiat. on: May 12, 2022, 09:19:56 PM
1 BTC will always equal 1 BTC
no shit sherlock. This is one of the dumbest thing ppl say during a bear market and a crash and i'm not sure why is this still a thing. What do they accomplish by saying stuff like that? has this become some kind of mantra to some people or what? a coping mechanism?

To make people who bought at $60k and now sell at <$30k realise that their Bitcoin
amount doesnt shrink or grow with the trending market value at any given moment.

Many people with weak hands think they are "losing money" when the market falls,
they are so focussed on the FIAT value and react on that. Contrary to what you might think
a lot of people NEED to realise this.


What are you even doing here if you think that bitcoin is the same as tulips? If you're in this forum and you still haven't understood how and why bitcoin is different I'm very sorry for you.

You are correct, tulips do have some value if you want something pretty in your garden. BTC doesn't, come back in 10 years and see if I'm right

Tulip mania only lasted 3 years, from a pessimistic viewpoint I'm amazed you give
Bitcoin another 10 years, that would be a total of 23 years of Bitcoin which kind of bursts
your bubble.

Welcome to many peoples ignore lists!
2786  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bukele's Bitcoin City view. on: May 12, 2022, 12:02:37 PM
* Who being people able to see their involvement in this as an investment
and those with a vast amount to invest and there have to be people
who will want to be involved, I mean if an Andy Warhol artwork can be sold
for $195,000,000 there has to appetite for this project.

The main concern is that at the end we're still talking about El Salvador, a country with serious safety issues, so to convince people moving there it's not only about the citadel but also about the whole country. Of course I really hope they succeed, thinking about a country that changes because of bitcoin it's incredible, this is going to be one insane experiment, can't wait to see the developments!

To be an investor I imagine you wont have to live there. Hopefully by the time the
project is well under way and possibly the first phase finished in a number of
years the country will have been transformed as a whole making it more inviting.

As for the funding, it seems that the 1 billion will be for the next geothermal powerplant and half will be for buying the dip again, so the funds will be probably won in a lottery.

That is what worries me. I like the project, and I hope it materialises, but it was conceived or at least came out last year when there were very high expectations for bitcoin's performance. I don't know if the way things are going, he is going to be able to finance it. Well, better said: the way things are going, I doubt he will be able to get enough funds for it.

You can be sure Bukele and his team were/are not blinkered in thinking Bitcoins
value would increase without a few bumps along the way. There are many "Joe and Jane Soaps"
who are definitely blinkered in both ways about Bitcoins journey but we Bitcoiners know
its only going one way in the long term.

Financing this is going to be incredible it will certainly need outside investment
from people with the capital and appetite to see the future of this.
2787  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Rugby] Union | League // Super|6s|7s|Pro14 | Cups & Tours | Olympics Touch..... on: May 12, 2022, 10:51:15 AM
Rugby League - Australia

So this week as posted above sees a lot of potentially close games in the NRL
and I'm not confident on betting on them, instead I'm going with two seemingly
mismatches:

Rollbit

Wests Tigers v North Queensland Cowboys - MLvNorth Queensland Cowboys @1.31 - Taken Amount $2 - Potential Win $2.62

Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks v Canberra Raiders - ML Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks @1.24 - Taken Amount $2 - Potential Win $2.42




Rugby Union

In the Semi Finals this weekend in the European Champions Cup I'm
going with Leinster to win at home against Toulouse

Nitrogensports

Leinster v Stade Toulousain - ML Leinster @ 1.23 - Taken amount 0.1mBTC - Potential Payout 0.12mBTC

The other Semi is very close odds Racing 92 @1.78 v Stade Rochelais @1.98
2788  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bukele's Bitcoin City view. {Gallery} on: May 11, 2022, 09:06:31 PM
This is definitely something to be used on a collectible coin!




2789  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bukele's Bitcoin City view. on: May 11, 2022, 08:34:11 PM
I didn't see anything about FUNDING
I was wondering the same. The project looks amazing, but who and how is going to finance it? Also, do the have any ETA? Because considering how quickly things change nowadays if it takes too long by the time everything is done it could already be old in a certain way.

As the modeling becomes more visual and detailed its clear its a really
ambitious plan but I wonder with the right selling points who* wouldnt
want to be involved is this?

* Who being people able to see their involvement in this as an investment
and those with a vast amount to invest and there have to be people
who will want to be involved, I mean if an Andy Warhol artwork can be sold
for $195,000,000 there has to appetite for this project.


The models really do look amazing. From a design point of view its by
no means OTT or unacheivable if we look at Dubai in terms of what
can be acheived, but yea its going to take a long time so there is really
no point in putting an ETA on something like this.
2790  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Hypothetical Thought Exercise on: May 11, 2022, 07:03:52 PM
Hold on!

I'm focussing on the word being used "Guess", it is impossible* to guess a seed phrase,
so memorising it is perfectly safe provided you can recall the 24 words anytime and are in full
control of your faculties in 10, 20, 30+ years from now.

Also if we disregard another word "hypothetically" and look at what o_e_l_e_o posted
in a related thread from earlier this week > Crypto vs "the lucky dude" --- Is Bitcoin really SAFE?

From what I understand the only defense against this event is to divide your assets into many accounts to reduce the risk.
No, the defense against this is math:

Let's say we have a trillion planet Earths. On each Earth, there are a trillion people. Each person has a trillion computers. Each computer generates a trillion keys a second. All these computers have been creating a trillion keys per second since the birth of the universe 13.7 billion years ago. 10^12 * 10^12 * 10^12 * 10^12 * 60 * 60 * 24 * 365 * 13.7 * 10^9 = 4.3*10^65. This means thay they would have so far generated approximately 0.0000000004% of all private keys.

If you are worried about someone using such a site to stumble across your private key, then you should be absolutely terrified of dying from a meteor strike, shark attack, or lightning strike, all of which are exponentially more likely to happen. You should also be terrified about someone guessing your credit card number and stealing all your fiat, since for every possible credit card number there is somewhere in the region of 10 trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion possible private keys.

I think he got some spent addresses but all of them were empty already.
If he did, then it was because those addresses were generated insecurely (e.g. brain wallets), or he had some additional information or knowledge about those addresses. No one has ever or will ever randomly stumble across the same private key as anyone else, period.

Sorry, but your chances of winning a lottery are higher.
Given that most lotteries have a chance to win the jackpot in the region of 1 in 108, and there are around 1077 possible private keys, then you are a few trillion trillion trillion times more likely to win the jackpot 5 times in a row than to find a single previously used private key.

Imagine stumbling across an address with a only few thousand sats in it, knowing you could have exponentially more easily just won several billion dollars by winning the lottery over and over and over!
2791  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: May 11, 2022, 05:32:08 PM
Anybody watched that roller coaster between Tsitsipas and Dimitrov? It looked like a smooth sailing for Tsitsi and then he serves for the match and looses and next 4 games and set in a blink of an eye. Then Tsitsi barely holds for dear life in third set and saves a match point on his serve in two different games. Than starts tie break and Tsitsi get to 5:0 and almost manages to loose it all once again.

I was watching with one eye while sitting in a bar with buddy and we were laughing half of the time. you don't see matches like this often in men's side of competition.

No I didnt see it and I actually havent tuned in properly yet to Rome, I did see the last set
of Fokina v FAA.

Tsitsipas though, there is something about him over the last year ans especially this
year, he is unpredictable, is picking up penalties, arguing with chair umpires, its just
not right. Sounds like it was an entertaining match if you didnt have a bet on!
2792  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [INFO] CCC - cygan's crypto collection - constantly updated on: May 11, 2022, 12:08:15 PM
Very good cygan. sounds like good planning.

Obviously with such a vast collection, organising and filing is also important.
2793  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [INFO] CCC - cygan's crypto collection - constantly updated on: May 10, 2022, 06:54:35 PM
Great thread cygan and some fantastic items in quite a vast collection.

I would be interested to know how you store items which are and/or will be quite
valuable in the future? particularly items which can be affected by UV light and
humidity like printed items.

I really like your glass display cabinet but surely the UV light will affect the Ballet
sleeves over time for example?
2794  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: May 10, 2022, 06:34:40 PM
...
Who has 3 of the traits? Tsitsipas2, 3 & 4 and Alcaraz1, 3 & 4 but I think
Alcaraz' mental strength outweighs Tsitsipas' experience.

What do you think?

Alcaraz is in a state of grace after winning the last two tournaments played and a series of matches against highly respected opponents (Nadal Djokovic Zverev...)
His young age is certainly a big plus. Now what is missing is continuity in performance... only time will be right or wrong in this aspect.


And experience! gaining experience as well as honing skills and staying fit will
result a very rounded player, Alcaraz has it all in front of him.

^
I argue that the 5 set grand slams require these traits in order of importance but all 4
<<sinp>>
Alcaraz' mental strength outweighs Tsitsipas' experience.

What do you think?
For future reference, if you are asking for my opinion, quote me or mention me by name, that way bot notifies me immediately and I answer very quickly. If this was plural you, than you did it perfectly. English is way too simplified language sometimes Smiley

I can't quantify grand slam traits the way you do it. For me it is simply the case of "absolute qoulity" having more time to show itself over BO5 matches. Absolute qoulity defined as combination of all those traits you mentioned plus several more, to name 2 important ones you forgot: form and surface prowess.

snip


@Trofo - apologies it was an open question, I should have worded it differently, everyones
opinion is welcome of course but I think you have touched  on a lot of other considerations,
thank you.

5. - Form
6. - Surface Prowess

are indeed other factors, major factors actually and the one who matches these the
best so far is Alcaraz IMO.

Its actually interesting when we consider everything mentioned above how complex
the sport is and how so many factors play their part in a players performance.
2795  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: May 10, 2022, 11:47:57 AM
^
I argue that the 5 set grand slams require these traits in order of importance but all 4
are very closely inter-connected.....in order to WIN: possibly no's 1 and 2 could be swapped

1. - Mental strength
2. - Experience
3. - Skill
4. - Fitness

This is how I see it currently...

Who hasor will have for RG all 4 traits? Nadal and Djokovic

Who has 3 of the traits? Tsitsipas2, 3 & 4 and Alcaraz1, 3 & 4 but I think
Alcaraz' mental strength outweighs Tsitsipas' experience.

What do you think?
2796  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Rugby] Union | League // Super|6s|7s|Pro14 | Cups & Tours | Olympics Touch..... on: May 10, 2022, 06:17:46 AM
Rugby League - Australia

This coming weekend is Round 10 of the NRL. Nearly all the draws are between evenly
placed teams or teams in similar ladder positions which makes it very difficult to bet on.

Bulldogs15 v Knights16
Sea Eagles7 v Broncos8
Warriors10 v Rabbitohs9
Titans14 v Dragons11
Storm1 v Panthers2
Sharks4 v Raiders12
Roosters6 v Eels5
Wests Tigers13 v Cowboys3

Its clear that the easiest ones to lick are the Sharks and the Cowboys.



Rugby Union

Semi-Final weekend coming up in the European Champions Cup this weekend.
One Irish and 3 French sides battle it out for a spot in the Final on the 28th of this month.

Leinster have a home draw in their semi to visiting Toulouse. Leinster clear favourites
should win that.

The second draw is harder to pick a winner, Racing92 v La Rochelle. Racing92 are slights favourites
1.78 v 1.98.
2797  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC Sentiment Poll for May on: May 09, 2022, 11:13:44 PM
The price still seems kinda high to me (like we should still be considering ourselves to be in a bull market). We've been around this area for quite a while and I don't think much has changed. I didn't expect up to reach 40k the last time we did and if we keep ranging between about 30k-40k (+/- a few k) then I think the price is pretty stable and strong.

We didn't have a blow off top this time either, we had a top that was reached twice and exceeded the second time. We have economic uncertainty to compete with this time too (2 years ago at the start of the pandemic, we crashed down to $3k)...

I think this is more a case of waiting for a strong break in either direction and either waiting for that to enter or just holding tight with what you have.

The United States' next narrative during the second quarter will be "We're in a recession!" causing markets to tumble and crash, and it will take everything with it. That announcement will be on June.

Plus from the current price movement, there's more than 50% probability Bitcoin will crash to the 200-weekly SMA line in my opinion.

And also the ECB are looking to increase interest rates in the Eurozone in June or
July followed by potentially 2 more this year to try and curb rising inflation, thats
gonna hit the markets which in turn will hit Bitcoin market.


In May? Most probably not because even if the market manipulation stopped right now and price didn't drop more, it would still take a long time for the same weak hands who have been panic selling to regain confidence and stop panic selling* and for price to go above $40k.

For now we are going to continue seeing the struggle specially as the weak Western economy slowly falls apart.

* The problem with panic sell is that even if it is no longer happening, it could resume when price goes a little higher because some newbies are waiting for a little rise to panic sell so for example if price were to recover from $35k to $38k these newbies would start their panic sell and prevent the momentum from shaping which is why I think it takes longer than that for their effects to go away.

^  Yup sell the bounce.  And it's not just the 'newbies' and regular guys like us.  A lot f traders with stuck longs will be taking it as a chance to get off BTC too and hold most of the stuff in their accounts in fiat too.  It's just the nature of the beast and you gotta admit it's really the right move.  I mean if they're just here to trade and make some money...  Which they are.  Lol.

Anyway yeah, it's better now than later.  It was all going to happen eventually anyway.

We almost hit $31k today, we might get a bounce alright which I'm sure there are
a lot of people waiting for it to take advantage of before a further dip to follow. So
while a bounce is probable, going over $40k is a big ask in this current climate and
$40k is a big sell off target IMO.
2798  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: May 09, 2022, 12:17:29 PM
I did bet on Alcaraz, but I think nobody expected it to be as one-sided as it was. I do feel for Zverev though - as Daniel91 said, sometimes the tournament schedules don't make much sense.
Still - to beat Alcaraz in his current form Zverev would have needed a lot more than rest.

I always felt he'd be a future no. 1 at some point, it looks like he'll get there a bit faster than I thought.
Future came very fast for Alcaraz, no doubt about that. There is no week spot in his game and seems just like a matter of time for him to get to to no. 1.

Regarding schedule in Madrid it really wasn't fair fair for Zverev. It is not just about rest it is about sleep schedule. If Zverev is not lying he went to bed at 4 am after match against AA and then after 5am against Tsitsi. Imagine playing competitive tennis after that?

People are forgetting all the recovery players have to go trough after the match and that takes time.

I agree on both points, the schedule seemed a bit skewed leaving Zverev short on
recovery time but I would imagine he would have had ample time in between matches
to be fit enough, I mean he was in the final there is very little to be done in terms of practice.

The manner in which Alcaraz won is to be noted and his matches with Nadal and
Djokovic were not exactly easy 3 setters.

It will be very difficult to bet against him in the next few tournaments but as someone
above pointed out RG is a 5 setter so it will be different interesting

2799  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The so called "Internet community" of naysayers on: May 09, 2022, 06:38:13 AM
I used to think that people who hate technology and progress will be those who are too old to switch, like Warren Buffett or Peter Schiff, but young people who sometimes are working in tech jobs seem to rather be in fiat or gold, like the old generation.

Of course the younger ones are more likely to change if they study well what Bitcoin is. With people like Buffet and Munger there is no hope.

What also happens is that those young people who don't believe in Bitcoin had the opportunity to buy it at $1K to $10K etc., didn't do it and now are looking for excuses by way of confirmation bias to convince themselves that they did the right thing. It's a psychological self-defense mechanism: they look for anything in the news regarding Bitcoin that will reaffirm their belief that they are not assholes.



Yes, there are those who will always seek out like minded people in order to validate their
opinions. 

In so many cases these no-coiners refuse to research or listen to facts. They remind me
people in the QAnon or Freemen movements or people who are anti-government on
everything. I think they will only have an influence on others with the same mindset.
2800  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto vs "the lucky dude" --- Is Bitcoin really SAFE? on: May 08, 2022, 09:01:06 PM
Yea from o_e_l_e_o's example above you would be better off playing the lottery.

As long as I'm the forum I havent heard of anyone guessing private keys and
I'm thinking why would you want to steal someone elses property?

One of Bitcoins strengths is its security, the weakest link is us humans and how we
treat our private keys.
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